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Have put a list together but need some advice

HQ

Farseer Jetbike - Shuriken Cannon
Farseer Jetbike - Shuriken Cannon
Warlock Jetbike
Warlock Jetbike

Troops

Jetbike x 6 - joined by 1 Farseer and 1 Warlock
Jetbike x 6 - joined by 1 Farseer and 1 Warlock
Rangers x 5
Dire Avengers x 10 with exarch - twin linked avenger catapult and battle fortune

Elites

Fire Dragons x 6 Exarch- Fire Pike
Fire Dragons x 6 Exarch- fire pike
Wraith blades x 5 with axes and power shields

Fast Attack

Warp Spiders x 5 with Exarch - twin linked death spinner and fast shot
Warp Spiders x 5 with Exarch - twin linked death spinner and fast shot
Crimson Hunter with Exarch

Heavy Support

Falcon with starcannon
Fire prism
Wraith lord with Brightlance and Eldar Middle launcher

Transport
Wave serpent x 3 with scatter lasers and Shuriken cannons]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/627172/7432239.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/627172/7432239.page GMT [2500] - Eldar
At 2500 perhaps a few more troops, and at least a big deathstar might be adviced.

Why do you have 6 fire dragons, and what is the thought behind adding the exarch.

Why not drop falcon (with star cannon) and the fire prism. Get two more wave serpents. Give them bright lances or star cannons to do some real harm. and reduce the fire dragons to 5. The extra range from fire pike is not needed if they ride the WS and jump out.

This from an Eldar noob, so take it with a grain of salt.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/627172/7434269.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/627172/7434269.page GMT [2500] - Eldar
I just realised the falcon has two heavy weapons, not to sure on the rules about this? And , with movement

I need more troops was thinking about ditching the wraith guard and changing them to a squad of 10 dire avengers with no exarch]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/627172/7434811.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/627172/7434811.page GMT [2500] - Eldar
In2theWarp wrote:
Fire dragon exarch has saved me in the past, better hitting and his longer range took out a target that was further away

I just realised the falcon has two heavy weapons, not to sure on the rules about this? And , with movement

I need more troops was thinking about ditching the wraith guard and changing them to a squad of 10 dire avengers with no exarch


Falcons can move 12" and fire 2 weapons (heavy included) at full BS. So you're fine there. It's just a mediocre tank compared to the Wave Serpent though. For some reason the new codex has made Wave Serpents more deadly than Falcons by simply giving them a scatter laser so that your 60" range S7 shield is twin-linked.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/627172/7435284.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/627172/7435284.page GMT [2500] - Eldar
If I took another instead of the falcon I would be losing out on strength 8 Ap 2 hits also with starcannon 2 strength 6 hits ap 2/3

The serpent sheild doesn't have any ap?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/627172/7435564.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/627172/7435564.page GMT [2500] - Eldar DA squad should never be charging anyway to get use of the +1S, you have counterattack with high initiative and very strong guns for overwatch, it's generally more beneficial to goad your opponent into charging you.

No the serpent shield doesn't have ap, but it ignores cover]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/627172/7435619.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/627172/7435619.page GMT [2500] - Eldar
In2theWarp wrote:
Yes the wave serpent is great, but the army already has three

If I took another instead of the falcon I would be losing out on strength 8 Ap 2 hits also with starcannon 2 strength 6 hits ap 2/3

The serpent sheild doesn't have any ap?


It ignores cover, which in many cases is more important than Ap 2 since it bypasses Jink, Stealth and Shrouding. The only things that have 2+ saves are things than can be just as easily killed with volume of fire instead of Ap 2 due to there being a low model count in 2+ save units. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/627172/7435688.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/627172/7435688.page GMT Re:[2500] - Eldar
The wave serpent is very effective against vehicle profiles, when against a 3 + save the wave serpent isn't to effective
If the wave serpent has scatter laser and Shuriken cannons the highest Ap is 5 so most troop profiles get saves

Thanks for all the useful posts, it has been really helpful]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/627172/7435938.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/627172/7435938.page GMT [2500] - Eldar http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/627172/7436083.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/627172/7436083.page GMT [2500] - Eldar
I am running
Fire Prism
Wraith Lord with Brightlance and EML
Falcon with starcannon or wraith lord ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/627172/7436548.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/627172/7436548.page GMT [2500] - Eldar EML with a scatter laser, or run double brightlances because they both produce similar results for less points. As for the third slot I would have to lean towards another wraith, only because it will be easier to keep in cover and it can't be one shotted as easily (visa vi, Explodes! result)

Or, if you have one available, another fire prism]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/627172/7436618.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/627172/7436618.page GMT