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This is the list I am thinking of using in a comp tournament in Jan.

Just wondering what peoples thoughts on it are and what you would change if you could.

HQ
Farseer - Stone, Spear
Warlock
Lhamean - Venom (Dual Cannons)

Troops
5x Dire Avengers (Wave Serpent - Scatter / Cannon)
5x Dire Avengers (Wave Serpent - Scatter / Cannon)
5x Dire Avengers (Wave Serpent - Scatter / Cannon)
5x Kabalite Warriors - Venom (Dual Cannons)

Fast Attack
3x Eldar Hornets (Pulse Lasers)
1x Razorwing Jetfighter (Dark Lances, Splinter Cannon, Shatterfield Missiles)

Heavy Support
1x Wrathknight
3x Vauls (D Cannons)
1x Nightspinner

I think I have all bases covered really, AA, Anti Blob, AT, ObSec, Psy Support, AMC etc.

What would you change and why? The Nightspinner I am not convinced about, but its only 115pts which doesnt give me much to play with on anything else...
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/628156/7450399.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/628156/7450399.page GMT [1850] - Eldar / Dark Eldar - Comp List - Need help Tweaking 1) is the warlock there for conceal, and both farseer and warlock go with the d-cannons?
2) why shuriken cannons on the wave serpents and not holo fields?
3) why dark lances on the razorwing when you give it a splinter cannon and shatterfield missiles?

Other than that it looks solid, I can see why the night spinner is in there.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/628156/7450565.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/628156/7450565.page GMT [1850] - Eldar / Dark Eldar - Comp List - Need help Tweaking
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/628156/7450582.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/628156/7450582.page GMT Re:[1850] - Eldar / Dark Eldar - Comp List - Need help Tweaking Subject: [1850] - Eldar / Dark Eldar - Comp List - Need help Tweaking

definitely read that as "Need help twerking"

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2) I dont always fire the shields off so I like to have another gun to shoot. Holo Fields are useful I agree though, if I had the pts I would put them on the Serpents.

3) Shatterfields are S7 Shred, useful for throwing at stuff, the Lances are there mainly for AA if I need it.

Smitty, yes the 24" is prohibitive, however there are loads of deep striking armies around and anything that comes within 24" of the unit (especially with ignores covers) is going to have a bad day. That allows me to control range somewhat as most of my weapons are 36" with a 12" move or straight up 48".

The Nightspinner I am not sure about, it doesnt really add that much to be honest except I like the Torrent flamer a lot for shooting at bikes etc.

But 115 pts isnt much to make up if I drop it. If I put Holo's on the Serpents I have 60 pts left which I cant do much with except maybe take a unit of rangers.


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 Wilson wrote:
Subject: [1850] - Eldar / Dark Eldar - Comp List - Need help Tweaking

definitely read that as "Need help twerking"



Oh my ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/628156/7450597.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/628156/7450597.page GMT [1850] - Eldar / Dark Eldar - Comp List - Need help Tweaking - remove the night spinner
- downgrade the d cannons to shadow weavers (makes up for the loss of the night spinner for anti hoard)
- remove the lhameans venom, and just put the lhameans in eserve or on an objective all game
- add a second wraithknight in for more board control and another major threat.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/628156/7450612.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/628156/7450612.page GMT [1850] - Eldar / Dark Eldar - Comp List - Need help Tweaking http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/628156/7450681.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/628156/7450681.page GMT [1850] - Eldar / Dark Eldar - Comp List - Need help Tweaking http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/628156/7450811.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/628156/7450811.page GMT [1850] - Eldar / Dark Eldar - Comp List - Need help Tweaking http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/628156/7452634.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/628156/7452634.page GMT [1850] - Eldar / Dark Eldar - Comp List - Need help Tweaking http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/628156/7452645.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/628156/7452645.page GMT [1850] - Eldar / Dark Eldar - Comp List - Need help Tweaking
The comp rules allow template weapons to fire at Invisible units at BS1 so they will likely still be very useful against some stuff and negate a load of FNP rolls.


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So this would be the final list...

HQ
Farseer
Lhamean - Venom (Dual Cannons)

Elites
5x Fire Dragons (Wave Serpent - Scatter / Cannon)

Troops
5x Dire Avengers (Wave Serpent - Scatter / Cannon)
5x Dire Avengers (Wave Serpent - Scatter / Cannon)
5x Kabalite Warriors - Venom (Dual Cannons)

Fast Attack
3x Eldar Hornets (Pulse Lasers)
1x Razorwing Jetfighter (Dark Lances, Splinter Cannon, 3x Shatterfield Missiles, 1x Monoscythe Missile)

Heavy Support
1x Wrathknight (Heavy Wraithcannons)
3x Vauls (D Cannons)
1x Talos (Splinter Cannon, Ichor Gauntlet)


I think I am happy with it now...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/628156/7453033.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/628156/7453033.page GMT [1850] - Eldar / Dark Eldar - Comp List - Need help Tweaking
I don't see the point of the Razorwing, if you want decent anti-air grab some reapers + a fast shot exacrch and put them in a WM bunker with a Lascannon.

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The Vauls are mainly there for objective camping duty, shooting deep strikers and a fire magnet. I don't really need anymore of them to be honest.

In those 2 games tonight they killed a mass pile of terminators (twice), a squad of longfangs, most of a command squad and a few other bits.

Should be good like this I think.

The Talos did good as well, murdered a drop pod and a few other units.

I've submitted the list I posted above, I think it's about as good as it gets right now.


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 melkorthetonedeaf wrote:
Can you take a Court of the Archon without an Archon?


Yes, they are a hq in their own right.


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 iddy00711 wrote:
A single Talos is next to useless, the night spinner is much much better all round. It can work wonders against crisis suits tau lists/ Necron wraiths, plus it as a torrent flamer! It's gonna be seriously under estimated by most people, which is why you should have it in your list. But, if you wanna try something different, you could give a Warp hunter a whirl.

I don't see the point of the Razorwing, if you want decent anti-air grab some reapers + a fast shot exacrch and put them in a WM bunker with a Lascannon.



Razorwing is for killing blobs mostly with a touch of anti air. Seems to work quite well.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/628156/7460485.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/628156/7460485.page GMT