KesaAnna wrote:
So my speculation is that the likely rank is Flag Lieutenant through Commander ?

with, possibly, it being used as a kind of sinecure for pensioners still in good health, but you don't , for whatever reason , want to put them in direct charge of things So, maybe, in that case , a few old Captains and Commodores ?

 KesaAnna wrote:
But at the same time, any old junior officer sounds unlikely too Because -

- The Officer of the Fleet would be the in-your-face face of the Imperial Navy in the Imperial Guard. Immersed in , and living cheek-by-jowl with the Guard, but not a part of it. So , for that reason alone, some considerable status would be preferable?

- For the same reason, while his job may be coordinating two bureaucracies and relaying orders, it is two different bureaucracies, and relaying orders can APPEAR like GIVING orders. So if he is not of sufficient status, Captains through Admirals might tend to get their feathers ruffled.

 Gashrog wrote:
I honestly think those sort of liaisons will be sipping brandy in a bunker somewhere far far behind the lines, anyone close enough to the front lines to be in any danger of being killed is going to be Lieutenant Junior Grade Nobody McNobody of the house of DeSposable.

Enigwolf wrote: coy OC

Furyou Miko wrote:

Enigwolf wrote: coy OC

Sturmtruppen wrote:Coy OC

Pardon me a second, Coy - is this a military shorthand for company, or..?

 Grey Templar wrote:
Because Admirals command ships, not ground troops.

 DoomShakaLaka wrote:

 Grey Templar wrote:
Because Admirals command ships, not ground troops.

They do if an inquisitor tells him to.

Of course logically I agree with you in that it would be pragmatic to send a junior / slightly seasoned officer in order to preserve the higher ranking officers experience for their professional field.

When has logic prevailed in the grim dark that is warhammer?

My personal belief? The officer of the fleet's rank can vary based off of the rank of the ground commander he is attending.

 Silverthorne wrote:
The OotF is almost certainly an aviator and a junior officer (O-1 to O-3. Aside from the trip in the only interaction guard meat bags have with the fleet is via tactical aviation. In BFG terms he'd be an ordnance pilot, in 40k parlance a thunderbolt, marauder, lighting, etc pilot. I say that because his in game effect is interdicting reserves, which is primarily a tacair job, so it's extremely likely that he is a tacair guy so that he can speak the language to the guys he's calling in.y

 KesaAnna wrote:
Gee, I figured folks would find this question so dull or so obscure , or so obscure and dull , that it would die.

I'm learnin all kinds of interesting stuff !

 DoomShakaLaka wrote:

 Grey Templar wrote:
Because Admirals command ships, not ground troops.

They do if an inquisitor tells him to.

Of course logically I agree with you in that it would be pragmatic to send a junior / slightly seasoned officer in order to preserve the higher ranking officers experience for their professional field.

When has logic prevailed in the grim dark that is warhammer?

My personal belief? The officer of the fleet's rank can vary based off of the rank of the ground commander he is attending.

 Furyou Miko wrote:
'cept that the OotF isn't into booms at all, all he does is manage reserves.

 Grey Templar wrote:

 Furyou Miko wrote:
'cept that the OotF isn't into booms at all, all he does is manage reserves.

Ahh right. Mixed up names.

 Enigwolf wrote:

 Silverthorne wrote:
The OotF is almost certainly an aviator and a junior officer (O-1 to O-3. Aside from the trip in the only interaction guard meat bags have with the fleet is via tactical aviation. In BFG terms he'd be an ordnance pilot, in 40k parlance a thunderbolt, marauder, lighting, etc pilot. I say that because his in game effect is interdicting reserves, which is primarily a tacair job, so it's extremely likely that he is a tacair guy so that he can speak the language to the guys he's calling in.y

I partially agree with this, only in terms of that if it's in the sense of using Naval aviation elements as we see in the 40k rules. However, we also have seen in lore and in books that Fleet officers attached to the HQ elements of Guard companies and regiments are also the ones who call down orbital bombardments, which we don't see in tabletop because we have the Master of Ordnance for that, which brings me to my next point...

 Silverthorne wrote:
So he's almost definitely a junior officer, and was probably grounded for some reason, flight violation, health issue, fooling around with too navy female crew, whatever. Or it could be that since the campaigns last years it's just a dude who got shot down and now is tagging along with the infantry company that rescued him. I think that's the coolest approach, personally

Uhm, no. JTACs and FOs are very specialized fields that requires the ability to think as a ground-pounder and as a support element, and very high marks on theory (being able to correct for wind, etc.) as well as attention to detail.

 KesaAnna wrote:
I'm wondering what the likely rank(s) would be for an Officer of the Fleet in an Imperial Guard Company Command ?

My speculation is that it wouldn't be Captains through Admirals, because it's too low ball.

But at the same time, any old junior officer sounds unlikely too Because -

- The Officer of the Fleet would be the in-your-face face of the Imperial Navy in the Imperial Guard. Immersed in , and living cheek-by-jowl with the Guard, but not a part of it. So , for that reason alone, some considerable status would be preferable?

- For the same reason, while his job may be coordinating two bureaucracies and relaying orders, it is two different bureaucracies, and relaying orders can APPEAR like GIVING orders. So if he is not of sufficient status, Captains through Admirals might tend to get their feathers ruffled.

So my speculation is that the likely rank is Flag Lieutenant through Commander ?

with, possibly, it being used as a kind of sinecure for pensioners still in good health, but you don't , for whatever reason , want to put them in direct charge of things So, maybe, in that case , a few old Captains and Commodores ?

What do you think / know ?

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Since I'm already here, and the subject is the Imperial Navy ----

The few images I have seen of the Imperial Navy symbol are pretty crude and simple. The thingie in the middle looks like a automobile steering wheel . Maybe it's a stylized representation of a sun, a planet, a solar system ?
Anyone know what it is supposed to be ? Maybe there are some better images of it around ?

 Silverthorne wrote:

 Enigwolf wrote:

 Silverthorne wrote:
The OotF is almost certainly an aviator and a junior officer (O-1 to O-3. Aside from the trip in the only interaction guard meat bags have with the fleet is via tactical aviation. In BFG terms he'd be an ordnance pilot, in 40k parlance a thunderbolt, marauder, lighting, etc pilot. I say that because his in game effect is interdicting reserves, which is primarily a tacair job, so it's extremely likely that he is a tacair guy so that he can speak the language to the guys he's calling in.y

I partially agree with this, only in terms of that if it's in the sense of using Naval aviation elements as we see in the 40k rules. However, we also have seen in lore and in books that Fleet officers attached to the HQ elements of Guard companies and regiments are also the ones who call down orbital bombardments, which we don't see in tabletop because we have the Master of Ordnance for that, which brings me to my next point...

 Silverthorne wrote:
So he's almost definitely a junior officer, and was probably grounded for some reason, flight violation, health issue, fooling around with too navy female crew, whatever. Or it could be that since the campaigns last years it's just a dude who got shot down and now is tagging along with the infantry company that rescued him. I think that's the coolest approach, personally

Uhm, no. JTACs and FOs are very specialized fields that requires the ability to think as a ground-pounder and as a support element, and very high marks on theory (being able to correct for wind, etc.) as well as attention to detail.

VERY specialized? lol, an entire FAC rotation for a Marine aviator is 11 months including both PCS moves and all the required schools (with about half a day of theory, combined) AND the deployment. And it's not really a dream slate option.... since you're out of the cockpit. Aviators already are a support element so I don't know what you mean there, and correction for wind is not done by the FAC but by the releasing aircraft. Are you a driver or a JTAC? The hardest part of a FAC tour is leaving the nurturing confines of the wing and dealing with all the motard infantry BS, the actual call for fires is a breeze. If you can operate the fancy contraption that delivers the bombs for an entire fleet tour without killing the wrong people, taking in CAS 1-3 is not going to strain your abilities.