FlingitNow wrote:
Neither list is strong, the first is just about playable with the suggestions I've made. It all depends on how proficient your meta is.

 FlingitNow wrote:
It's not that you're going wrong it is that you don't have a clear plan on how to go right. Ideally in a game of Warhammer you want to put as much pressure on your opponent as possible and make his decisions as difficult as possible. So you need to think about your list as a whole first. How are you going to apply that pressure. Target saturation and target denial are common tactics to give your opponent difficult targeting decisions. Whilst alpha striking or threat over load are good ways to apply pressure in the early game. Area denial units are great for board control to ensure your opponent has a difficult decision even on something as simple as trying to grab ,midfield objectives.

Only once you've decided the strategy of your list as a whole should you look at the specifics. Where every unit you take helps pull towards that initial goal. Then finally ensuring you have your bases covered do you have a plan to deal with a Mech army, a flyer army, FMC spam, horde, death star etc.

Suite wrote:
IMO it's not very helpful for new players to start with way too strong options (WK) at this low point level. Relying on the inherent strength of the WK doesn't get you better and chances are, your opponent can't handle it depending on the first turns and/or his list.

ConanMan wrote:
As a rule of thumb every point you spend on "bros" you need to spend at least a point (if not 2) on "AV12"

Suite wrote:

ConanMan wrote:
As a rule of thumb every point you spend on "bros" you need to spend at least a point (if not 2) on "AV12"

This is dogmatic and flat-out wrong. The models he has are good enough to field a decent 1000pt force.

Xeones7 wrote:
Also perhaps trying to get Jain in the squad of scorpions when I up the points... A squad of 9 with her banshee mask, -5 to WS and -5 to initiative is too good to pass up! She can replace the autarch!