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				<description><![CDATA[ <a href="https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/tinywargames/tiny-battlemats-for-wargamers" target="_new" rel="nofollow">https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/tinywargames/tiny-battlemats-for-wargamers</a><br /> <br /> <a href="http://www.tinywargames.co.uk/" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.tinywargames.co.<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(134);'>uk</span>/</a><br /> <br /> <img src="https://ksr-ugc.imgix.net/assets/003/915/438/0e97f6a9c68162a2f52c6ace1a3566d2_original.jpg?v=1433344614&w=680&h=&fit=max&auto=format&q=92&s=c1c0207e604837a2c01888b6ea4c57ce" border="0" /><br /> <br /> <img src="https://ksr-ugc.imgix.net/assets/003/915/436/49f643e3e0c2a9d107a3b422e7430a58_original.jpg?v=1433344590&w=680&h=&fit=max&auto=format&q=92&s=60f2179d75462e25ce82d22a0b8bb8f5" border="0" /><br /> <br /> <br /> <img src="https://ksr-ugc.imgix.net/assets/003/915/425/a58322734f74115ca4649928bf0558c9_original.jpg?v=1433344527&w=680&h=&fit=max&auto=format&q=92&s=7d0b30dd11bbd76e6f96d22785105785" border="0" /><br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> This appears to have just kicked off. Printed rubber mats that supposedly hold texture. I wonder how this compares to Zuzzy's product? If it's in the same league, I would be interested to know how the printing works.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ This seems like quite an odd Kickstarter, it seems like everything is good to go so I do not quite understand what they are actually funding. That said I hope the business is successful and offers a quality product, we always need more game mats.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ It could be production equipment perhaps? If they've only got one or two printers handling everything, the ability to buy a few more could be handy. They might want to lay that out a bit more in their <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(609);'>KS</span> page though.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 5 Jun 2015 12:11:12]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ That certainly may be the case, I just think the kickstarter page is a bit lacking in terms of information. <br /> <br /> Hopefully they can add a video or two to the page as well. But from a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(134);'>UK</span> perspective it will be nice to have an alternative to Deep Cut and Game Mats.<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(731);'>EU</span>.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 5 Jun 2015 12:20:17]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Thraxas Of Turai]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Tiny Battlemats Kickstarter</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Yeah,<br /> It doesn't mention shipping costs... just ships anywhere.<br /> In the absence of postage costs, people will assume it's included in the price.<br /> The <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(609);'>KS</span> price of a 6x4 is the same as it is on their website without shipping??<br /> <blockquote><div><cite>tiny wargames <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(134);'>UK</span> wrote:</cite>6 x 4 feet - ...NOW £55 first 50 clients<br /> plus <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(134);'>UK</span> delivery £10.00</div></blockquote> <br /> So the only benifit of doing the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(609);'>KS</span> is to wait months and save on shipping... anywhere in the world!<br /> <br /> My problem with these ships anywhere in the world <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(609);'>KS</span> is someone's subsidizing someone else's shipping!!<br /> Fact is internal <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(134);'>UK</span> shipping costs less than shipping to the US.<br /> <br /> Shipping is always a killer and turns people off KSs so I can understand why they want to hide it.<br /> But at least when I back a US <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(609);'>KS</span> and see plus $20 for shipping to the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(134);'>UK</span> I know why.<br /> US shipping is included in the price and the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(134);'>UK</span> excess cost has to be paid by someone.<br /> <br /> This <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(609);'>KS</span> hides the fact extra World wide shipping needs to be paid by sharing its cost amongst all backers.<br /> Hiding information always seems dishonest.<br /> <br /> The problem is I don't think £55 is good value and I'm thinking it's probably because I'm paying an extra £15 towards yank shipping.<br /> Pass.<br /> <br /> £40 including <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(134);'>UK</span> postage and I'd be interested.<br /> <br /> Panic...]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 5 Jun 2015 12:48:36]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Panic]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/5ffcf41b0038b3e351dcd9ce2513a293.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/651337/7882613.page"><b>Thraxas Of Turai wrote:</b></a><br/>That certainly may be the case, I just think the kickstarter page is a bit lacking in terms of information. <br /> <br /> Hopefully they can add a video or two to the page as well. But from a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(134);'>UK</span> perspective it will be nice to have an alternative to Deep Cut and Game Mats.<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(731);'>EU</span>.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Agreed, if only for lower shipping costs. <br /> <br /> While I'm really quite positively disposed towards a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(134);'>UK</span> mat maker, something about that <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(609);'>KS</span> page is setting my spider sense to tingling. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 5 Jun 2015 12:49:46]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Hi Rich here from Tiny , we are looking Tovget s new printer and create and produce more mats. We ship in the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(134);'>UK</span> from £5<br /> Cheers <br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> Updated <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(609);'>KS</span> page as well thanks ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 5 Jun 2015 18:34:26]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I like the idea of these and like others having a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(134);'>UK</span> based supplier is very attractive.<br /> <br /> I'll be watching this for more info. A video with close up shots of a figure or two for reference to the texture would go a long way, maybe some 15mm and a 28mm model? Also some pics of some 15-35mm scenery too. <br /> <br /> Good luck with the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(609);'>KS</span>! <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 5 Jun 2015 19:36:28]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I like the idea Tiny, but I'd appreciate a bit more info/pictures on the textures. When I look at the photo of the mat being rolled, I can't see any raised surfaces that would imply different texture types (like on a photo of a Zuzzy mat, for example, see below).<br /> <br /> <img src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-TPvaFgwyOhM/UjUGYFD1MwI/AAAAAAAABEQ/81qehI93FsU/s1600/DR-TF-001.painted.jpg" border="0" /><br /> <br /> How many millimetres high does the texture go?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 5 Jun 2015 20:42:15]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Ketara]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/c7d59b814a5ebcaf21cfb6d2373c5d64.png" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/651337/7883793.page"><b>Ketara wrote:</b></a><br/>How many millimetres high does the texture go?</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> That word means something completely different in graphics design, which is the way Tiny is using it.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 5 Jun 2015 20:54:43]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ lord_blackfang]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/22c911076cab533e6705251b886057a7.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/651337/7883815.page"><b>lord_blackfang wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/c7d59b814a5ebcaf21cfb6d2373c5d64.png" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/651337/7883793.page"><b>Ketara wrote:</b></a><br/>How many millimetres high does the texture go?</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> That word means something completely different in graphics design, which is the way Tiny is using it.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> He is? Hot damn, I thought the product would have a raised surface (or physical texture) in some way, as opposed to literally just being an image lasered onto a piece of rubber. I can't say the latter evokes my interest much at all, there's several places that already do mats like that.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 5 Jun 2015 21:21:33]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Well, it's nothing new, but more selection is always good. I like the idea of printed mats but I don't actually like any of the graphics currently on offer from other suppliers. First one to make a good cityfight layout will get a sale.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Just a technical note: your 'cobbles' are actually 'setts'. Cobbles are rounded while setts are square.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 5 Jun 2015 22:15:22]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/c7d59b814a5ebcaf21cfb6d2373c5d64.png" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/651337/7882583.page"><b>Ketara wrote:</b></a><br/>Printed rubber mats that supposedly hold texture. I wonder how this compares to Zuzzy's product?</div></blockquote>i don't think your texture and his mean the same.  He call texture what we call theme or subject.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 5 Jun 2015 23:02:05]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ yeah,<blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/651337/7883497.page"><b>Tinywargamesmats wrote:</b></a><br/>Hi Rich here from Tiny , we are looking Tovget s new printer and create and produce more mats. We ship in the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(134);'>UK</span> from £5 </div></blockquote>So shipping isn't included!!!<br /> you should definitely tell your backers you plan to charge extra for shipping!<br /> Within the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(134);'>UK</span> you charge £5 for roads and £10 for mats.... what will your US backer have to pay??!!??<br /> <br /> Sorry for being so negative but you're not doing very well at presenting your product.<br /> <br /> <br /> Also I don't understand the pricing on roads at £25 when you are clearly just printing 8 on a 6x4 sheet and slicing it.<br /> That should be £6.80 per 6' road. plus £5 delivery = £11.80 and a fair deal. Why £25 plus delivery!!!?<br /> <br /> £25 plus £5 delivery is insane!<br /> <br /> You could charge £10 per 6' road and still turn 45% more profit than selling the same amount of material as a 6x4.<br /> And we might think it ok... Come on Tiny... how do you justify this cost?<br /> <br /> For these roads you are charging £200 for what is a '£55' 6x4 mat sliced up 8 times...<br /> We are not stupid.<br /> <br /> Panic...]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Panic]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ What's the connection between this and <a href="http://www.wargamevault.com/product/147594/Battle-mat-057s-Mississippi-River?manufacturers_id=6198" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.wargamevault.com/product/147594/Battle-mat-057s-Mississippi-River?manufacturers_id=6198</a><br /> <br /> They seem have have a lot of the exact same designs...even the photo backgrounds are the same.  Did this <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(609);'>KS</span> company just steal their pictures, or are they used with a license, or are they sister companies?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 6 Jun 2015 00:49:35]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/22c911076cab533e6705251b886057a7.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/651337/7883991.page"><b>lord_blackfang wrote:</b></a><br/>Well, it's nothing new, but more selection is always good. I like the idea of printed mats but I don't actually like any of the graphics currently on offer from other suppliers. First one to make a good cityfight layout will get a sale.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> you already seen this one from frontline:<br /> <br /> <a href="http://store.frontlinegaming.org/fat-mat%3A-urban-combat-2-6x4/dp/849" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://store.frontlinegaming.org/fat-mat%3A-urban-combat-2-6x4/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(262);'>dp</span>/849</a><br /> <br /> or this one from gamemat:<br /> <br /> <a href="http://www.gamemat.eu/6x4-g-mats/6x4-g-mat-fallout-zone-pre-order.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.gamemat.eu/6x4-g-mats/6x4-g-mat-fallout-zone-pre-order.html</a>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Isn't there already a company that makes photo-mats that are basically 6'x4' mouse pads?  I'm really unsure what this rubber backing has that will be an advantage over what is already on the market.<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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