<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "[1500] - Grey Knights - NSF - Stormraven or not ?"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/14.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net [1500] - Grey Knights - NSF - Stormraven or not ? I regularly play against double Flyrant Nids, Space Wolves with a Stormwolf, and Orks with a couple of their flyers – so sort of feel as though I have to take one.

Is it better to focus on ground units instead ?

In the context of lists at 1500 (using NSF) :-

Librarian
5x GKT w/ Hammer, Psycannon
5x GKT w/ Hammer, Psycannon
5x GKT w/ Hammer, Psycannon
5x GKT w/ Hammer, Psycannon
Stormraven
Dreadknight w/ Teleporter, Sword, H.Psycannon
Dreadknight w/ Teleporter, Sword, H.Psycannon

Librarian W/ ML3
5x GKT w/ Hammer, Psycannon
5x GKT w/ Hammer, Psycannon
5x GKT w/ Hammer, Psycannon
5x GKT w/ Hammer, Psycannon
5x Interceptors w/ Incinerator
Dreadknight w/ Teleporter, Sword, H.Psycannon, H.Incinerator
Dreadknight w/ Teleporter, Sword, H.Psycannon, H.Incinerator

Removing the Raven gives me ML3, squad of Interceptors and Heavy Incinerators for my Dreadknights.

Thoughts ?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/652892/7911379.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/652892/7911379.page GMT [1500] - Grey Knights - NSF - Stormraven or not ?
But you should also consider dropping one of the terminator squads for Personal Teleporters on the Dreadknights. ESPECIALLY since you play maelstrom. I think that might even open up enough points to get you the interceptor squad, as well]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/652892/7911395.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/652892/7911395.page GMT [1500] - Grey Knights - NSF - Stormraven or not ?
Thanks for your comments. I guess I'm leaning towards the Stormraven - not sure how useful it will be though]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/652892/7911469.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/652892/7911469.page GMT [1500] - Grey Knights - NSF - Stormraven or not ?
NSF: 755pts
135: Librarian: ML3
190: Terminators: Meltabombs, Psycannon
215: Dreadknight: Teleporter, Heavy Psycannon, Heavy Incinerator
215: Dreadknight: Teleporter, Heavy Psycannon, Heavy Incinerator

NSF: 745pts
135: Librarian: ML3
195: Terminators: Hammer, Psycannon
215: Dreadknight: Teleporter, Heavy Psycannon, Heavy Incinerator
200: Stormraven: TL Lascannon, TL Multi-melta]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/652892/7911744.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/652892/7911744.page GMT [1500] - Grey Knights - NSF - Stormraven or not ?
I think NSF is most useful for Terminators, and if i'm only taking 2-3 units of them I'll either start them on the table, or deep strike them from turn 2+]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/652892/7913598.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/652892/7913598.page GMT Re:[1500] - Grey Knights - NSF - Stormraven or not ? POTMS multi-melta to blast some armor, and four missiles and an Assault Cannon are nothing to sneeze at. Plus, that thing is tough to knock out of the sky, and is usually hovering over objectives end game either denying or scoring for me.

As to the NSF, yes losing OBSEC is big on your troops but the tactial flexibility it brings is fantastic. Yes your DKs can teleport, but against an Alpha Strike army (and there's lots of people building Alpha strikes lately), the ability to null deploy is crazy useful. Remember, just because you CAN deepstrike in turn 1 with the NSF, doesn't mean you have to. It gives you the option.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/652892/7914028.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/652892/7914028.page GMT [1500] - Grey Knights - NSF - Stormraven or not ? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/652892/7914174.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/652892/7914174.page GMT [1500] - Grey Knights - NSF - Stormraven or not ?
Bartali wrote:
Stormravens can't score/contest, at least with objectives on the ground if I remember rightly. Their hull needs to be 3" away, and with the normal flying stand they're beyond this.


I've never seen anyone use this rules interpretation. I think the BRB says to use the Flier's base for determining distances but maybe that was an old rule.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/652892/7914574.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/652892/7914574.page GMT Re:[1500] - Grey Knights - NSF - Stormraven or not ? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/652892/7914777.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/652892/7914777.page GMT