<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "Tau vs Grey Knights Tips, please :)"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/69.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net Tau vs Grey Knights Tips, please :)
Me and my buddy are getting back into 40k and I'm revitalizing my old Tau army while he makes a Grey Knights army. I've never played against Grey Knights and my goal here isn't really to form a super tailored list but just get some general tips on what to do/watch out for from the Grey Knights. Thanks.

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/659102/8033534.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/659102/8033534.page GMT Tau vs Grey Knights Tips, please :) GK. If you see any Dreadknights... take those out first.. you should be fine. He has more to worry about lol]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/659102/8033541.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/659102/8033541.page GMT Tau vs Grey Knights Tips, please :) http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/659102/8033593.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/659102/8033593.page GMT Tau vs Grey Knights Tips, please :) http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/659102/8033733.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/659102/8033733.page GMT Tau vs Grey Knights Tips, please :) str 4 no ap, force. he needs to activate it first, which isn't hard.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/659102/8033754.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/659102/8033754.page GMT Tau vs Grey Knights Tips, please :) http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/659102/8033756.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/659102/8033756.page GMT Tau vs Grey Knights Tips, please :) RoF force gun.
It's the mother of all hail marries.


That being said. Spam suits, spam plasma and fusion, and if you got riptides, an IA/TLFB/EWO/STIM setup will be his bane. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/659102/8033936.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/659102/8033936.page GMT Tau vs Grey Knights Tips, please :) GK player would take one, and the only version worth taking is on the DreadKnight.

SJ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/659102/8033944.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/659102/8033944.page GMT Tau vs Grey Knights Tips, please :) Not that terrible against MCs at large. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/659102/8033950.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/659102/8033950.page GMT Tau vs Grey Knights Tips, please :) GK have the second most expensive model-per-points ratio (loses to IK), so you won't see many models around - each one who dies is a blow to his army.

Farsight Enclaves has a signature system - Talisman of Arthas Moloch - that could help you denying some maledictions/witchfires

EWO is supreme. GK generally come from Deep Strike or use the Gate of Infinity, a psychic power that teleports them around.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/659102/8033963.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/659102/8033963.page GMT Tau vs Grey Knights Tips, please :) Sure they HAVE infantry, but you play enclaves for suit spam of doom, not fire warriors. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/659102/8034028.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/659102/8034028.page GMT Tau vs Grey Knights Tips, please :) http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/659102/8034051.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/659102/8034051.page GMT Tau vs Grey Knights Tips, please :)
 BoomWolf wrote:
Actually Farsight enclave also usually field a lower model-per-point ratio.
Sure they HAVE infantry, but you play enclaves for suit spam of doom, not fire warriors.


You'll get it for the talisman - just a small CAD to grab it. the core of his army should be tau empire vs grey knights]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/659102/8034423.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/659102/8034423.page GMT Tau vs Grey Knights Tips, please :)
Empire main "fortress" is totally viable, but enclaves suit spam will also fare well against GK, if only due to the unnatural AP2 saturation they can field (totally viable to have every gun a plasma/fusion and above)]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/659102/8034628.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/659102/8034628.page GMT Tau vs Grey Knights Tips, please :)
 DaKKaLAnce wrote:
He said not cheesy. Just wanted to know what to expect. Lets not corrupt another player with net list...


I'm far too stubborn to be corrupted by net lists lol. I try to balance it between what's good and what I like as a theme or the fluff I like. I really like mobile/mechanized forces and I honestly refuse to use Far Sight 'cause I like the main Tau Empire. I just can't bring myself to play a traitor to our cause! Haha... unless they retconned his lore, I haven't looked at his new rules/fluff yet. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/659102/8035308.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/659102/8035308.page GMT Tau vs Grey Knights Tips, please :)
 BoomWolf wrote:
Actually, even wounding on 6 and 2+ save, it has slightly over 18% chance to land a kill.
Not that terrible against MCs at large.


Eh, an 18% chance effectively means it'll happen once per game. And that's only if you last 5+ turns. That's why I prefer the reliability of the Psycannon.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/659102/8035332.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/659102/8035332.page GMT Re:Tau vs Grey Knights Tips, please :) GK player's day.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/659102/8035333.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/659102/8035333.page GMT Tau vs Grey Knights Tips, please :) GK army. Tons of Str 5 fire at long range, powerful overwatch, too many bodies to handle, GK's superior melee weapons and abilities are completely wasted on Tau infantry. Anything that gets into CC with GK WILL die but that's ok because it means the GK are left in the open to die to shooting. Fusion/Plasma crisis suits or ion riptides are you anti Dread Knight units while your infantry just force the GK terminators to roll 100s of armor saves. Kroot with sniper rounds can spam rending shots vs GK and act as a screen for your Fire Warriors.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/659102/8035341.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/659102/8035341.page GMT Tau vs Grey Knights Tips, please :)
 Tannhauser42 wrote:
 BoomWolf wrote:
Actually, even wounding on 6 and 2+ save, it has slightly over 18% chance to land a kill.
Not that terrible against MCs at large.


Eh, an 18% chance effectively means it'll happen once per game. And that's only if you last 5+ turns. That's why I prefer the reliability of the Psycannon.


Well, that IS against a 2+ save and T6 or 7. psycanon is hardly relevant there anyway.

T6 Sv3 or T5Sv2 will have 36% to get ID (most NMC, centurions, nurgle prince, many HQs)

T5 Sv3 (demon prince, some HQs) will have 60% (!) to die


Actually now that I ran the numbers, it rather good at killing most MCs in the game (and by extend, characters), if only because its a "one wound and you are dead" deal.

Even against a riptide/dreadknight, an 18% to land a kill with your secondary fighting mode is quite impressive.

And shot count makes it still relevant in helping clearing hordes.



I'm starting to like this gun.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/659102/8035696.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/659102/8035696.page GMT Tau vs Grey Knights Tips, please :) OP?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/659102/8035973.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/659102/8035973.page GMT Tau vs Grey Knights Tips, please :)
Deathrain suits are still useful.
Heatwave suits are even better in the "new" codex than they were in the old ones and can easily threaten even TEQs. TL Flamer and normal flamer x3. Cheap nasty squad and if it dies, oh well.
Fire Knives remain a general use suit but you do now see them very often since people specialize their suits these days from what I have seen.

Fusion suits are popular for obvious reasons as are plasma suits. I might experiment in my lists with TL fusion and plasmas teams.

Then there is riptides. If you two are staying friendly, don't get more than one. They are cool looking models and highly effective.

Markerlights are still useful obviously. I prefer them on Tetra platforms rather than on squishy pathfinders.

Have fun with it. Tau are one of the more fun armies to play if you don't castle up. Highly mobile with mass firepower. Castling is boring to play and play against.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/659102/8036039.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/659102/8036039.page GMT Tau vs Grey Knights Tips, please :)
 BoomWolf wrote:
 Tannhauser42 wrote:
 BoomWolf wrote:
Actually, even wounding on 6 and 2+ save, it has slightly over 18% chance to land a kill.
Not that terrible against MCs at large.


Eh, an 18% chance effectively means it'll happen once per game. And that's only if you last 5+ turns. That's why I prefer the reliability of the Psycannon.


Well, that IS against a 2+ save and T6 or 7. psycanon is hardly relevant there anyway.

T6 Sv3 or T5Sv2 will have 36% to get ID (most NMC, centurions, nurgle prince, many HQs)

T5 Sv3 (demon prince, some HQs) will have 60% (!) to die


Actually now that I ran the numbers, it rather good at killing most MCs in the game (and by extend, characters), if only because its a "one wound and you are dead" deal.

Even against a riptide/dreadknight, an 18% to land a kill with your secondary fighting mode is quite impressive.

And shot count makes it still relevant in helping clearing hordes.



I'm starting to like this gun.


My friend suggested I start rolling on Divination with my Inquisitors and fishing for Misfortune to follow around my Heavy Psilencer Dreadknight. I think this makes that weapon much more dangerous with force active. Just an idea, thought it was a good one.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/659102/8036066.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/659102/8036066.page GMT