<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "So...hows the Squiggoth?"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/69.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net So...hows the Squiggoth? ) and im curious if its decent or just a terrible waste of points. Ive looked at the Big Squiggoth and the only thing that bugs me is the WS 2. Just, why??Other than that how are Squiggoths?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/664311/8133024.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/664311/8133024.page GMT So...hows the Squiggoth?
Yeah, not that good. I tied my friend's up with Hormagaunts for the whole game.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/664311/8133044.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/664311/8133044.page GMT So...hows the Squiggoth? -Horrible in close combat.
-Worthless shooting.
-Slowest transport ever.
-Confusing rules.
-With upgrades as expensive as a landraider.

There are better deals..


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Gargantuan squiggoth.

I'm not sure about that one, its actually a good transport but it is overcosted if you compare it with the newer lord of war gargantuans.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/664311/8133155.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/664311/8133155.page GMT So...hows the Squiggoth?
oldzoggy wrote:
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Gargantuan squiggoth.

I'm not sure about that one, its actually a good transport but it is overcosted if you compare it with the newer lord of war gargantuans.


I think everything is overcosted when compared to those ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/664311/8133444.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/664311/8133444.page GMT So...hows the Squiggoth? Do not take in competitive lists.

It is good enough for casual or fluffy games though.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/664311/8133757.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/664311/8133757.page GMT So...hows the Squiggoth? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/664311/8133819.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/664311/8133819.page GMT So...hows the Squiggoth?
 Iron_Captain wrote:
Gargantuan squiggoth is better than the normal one, but still horrible.
Do not take in competitive lists.

It is good enough for casual or fluffy games though.


I had no intention of playing Orks competitively anyway

I seem to recall seeing a Squiggoth for like 50 points or something nuts

Here it is:


Is this an actual thing or did someone make this up? Cuz if this is a thing im all over this.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/664311/8133944.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/664311/8133944.page GMT Re:So...hows the Squiggoth?
Trends I see:

Great slab of meat to put in cover and camp objectives.
Great beat stick backfield unit to guard my artillery against pesky drop pods
Gargantuan squiggoth is wonderful, even though he gets focused he can often take it and dish out a ton of punishment with his guns. I also like defensively spewing 20 boys out of him to tie up unfavorable combats...like the cunning squid...except more choppy...

I also like giving my opponents difficult choices, sure you can take pot shots at my gargantuan but then you get a manz missile. What's that? Focused my nobs? This beast moves 12 inches a turn and is already in your face.
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Remember, with orks you want your elite units hitting their basic units, and your basic units hitting their elites. Send meganobs and big squig at tactical squads or guard platoons, send the boys after terminators and canoptic wraiths.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/664311/8134541.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/664311/8134541.page GMT So...hows the Squiggoth?
 Grimmor wrote:
 Iron_Captain wrote:
Gargantuan squiggoth is better than the normal one, but still horrible.
Do not take in competitive lists.

It is good enough for casual or fluffy games though.


I had no intention of playing Orks competitively anyway

I seem to recall seeing a Squiggoth for like 50 points or something nuts

Here it is:


Is this an actual thing or did someone make this up? Cuz if this is a thing im all over this.


This explains the confusion. Those rules where great I used lots of squiggoths those where the most actual rules. Lots of fun . sadly Imperial Armour Apocalypse II "buffed" them and increased their points by 130 points for a naked one. A squiggoth with upgrades and weapons is now really costy.


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I know owning non imperial "FW models" sucks, they change the rules even more drasticly then GW does. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/664311/8135066.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/664311/8135066.page GMT Re:So...hows the Squiggoth?
1. T7 with W6, lost one attack and one Strength though
2. It generates D3+1 HoW attacks
3. After it loses a wound it gets Supa Rampage (ie an extra 1d6 attacks)
4. it can transport 15 models now
5. its Fearless as long as an oOrk is within 3"
6. For 15 points you get to roll on the Combat Drugs chart, which is pretty much all good.

Now is it still overcosted? Ya id say by about 50-60 points. Is it better? Definitely.

Personally ill probably use each one as a different Squiggoth, calling the ones from Apocalypse Battle Squiggoths.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/664311/8135200.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/664311/8135200.page GMT Re:So...hows the Squiggoth? HS?

Imagine being able to take those in squadrons... wow..

I love orks. lol ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/664311/8135216.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/664311/8135216.page GMT So...hows the Squiggoth?
You used to pay 50 points for a slow but safe transport.
Now you pay a allmost as much as a landraider for it (or 2 battle wagons).

Lets look at what it really does for its point cost .

Transport: Its sturdier, but still way to slow to actually transport anything. And it isn't really that sturdy to walk into a gunline and survive to reach the other side.

Mobile bunker, with fearless aura: It pretty good at this, and fearless is something orks can use with the new mob rule.

Close combat monster: Nope he is still bad at it.

Shooty monster: nope not even close.

So you pay ~200 points for a a mobile bunker with a fearless aura, thats bad really bad :\








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 BlaxicanX wrote:

Imagine being able to take those in squadrons... wow..


squadrons...

Are you mad 3 of these beasts would cost 600 points
And they are still just as slow as any normal ork :\]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/664311/8135284.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/664311/8135284.page GMT Re:So...hows the Squiggoth? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/664311/8135294.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/664311/8135294.page GMT So...hows the Squiggoth? ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/664311/8135295.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/664311/8135295.page GMT Re:So...hows the Squiggoth?
 Grimmor wrote:
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Personally ill probably use each one as a different Squiggoth, calling the ones from Apocalypse Battle Squiggoths.


The newer IA rules always overrule the older ones...
The same happened to the lifta wagon, that went from auto include to something that never hits anything any more. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/664311/8135314.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/664311/8135314.page GMT So...hows the Squiggoth?
 BlaxicanX wrote:
"Old profile"


You know, i may do this. I might just go get a bunch of Triceratops toys and field them as a Sguiggoth Squadron and see how they run. Also might just bump them to WS 4, because squigs are WS 4 and i have never understood why a Squiggoth has that low of a WS.

oldzoggy wrote:
The newer IA rules always overrule the older ones...
The same happened to the lifta wagon, that went from auto include to something that never hits anything any more.


Sshhhh]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/664311/8135315.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/664311/8135315.page GMT So...hows the Squiggoth? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/664311/8135501.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/664311/8135501.page GMT Re:So...hows the Squiggoth?
And yes, I would imagine that a giant monster who's instinctively driven to kill things in melee would at least have a better WS than a Riptide...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/664311/8135511.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/664311/8135511.page GMT Re:So...hows the Squiggoth?
 BlaxicanX wrote:
It's WS2, not WS3.

And yes, I would imagine that a giant monster who's instinctively driven to kill things in melee would at least have a better WS than a Riptide...


This right here. I could accept WS 3 as thats what a Carnifex is IIRC, but 2? Im pretty sure that thing is better at fighting than a Grot. Also like i said Squigs historically have had WS 4]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/664311/8135521.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/664311/8135521.page GMT So...hows the Squiggoth? id be happy to play against models with home brew rules]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/664311/8136170.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/664311/8136170.page GMT