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				<description><![CDATA[ So I FINALLY got the bloody thing in the post after 2 weeks and to my suprise -<br /> it sucks major dong.<br /> 85 Points for a nerfed Captain? Ok <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(93);'>MC</span> Powerfist and Artificer Armour as standard is cool but limited Warlord Trait? Ld9? Wat? I thought these guys were meant to be grizzled veterans of crusades far more gruelling than anything in modern <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span>! Lack of Eternal Warrior means he dies 99% of the time VS anything in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>CC</span> even with the fist, and no special rules past Legiones that make him a crap unit-buffer in general. The only thing redeeming about him is the relic, Panoply of the Crusader, which gaks all over <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> and is a nice replacement against the overcosted and highly unreliable Armour Indomitus. But it's a shame, because even though 'Ol Scar-eyes gets a decent relic, it's better spent on high-value units (Smashfucker with Stubborn and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(487);'>PE</span>:(<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span>) woah) that'll be targeted by your enemy more.<br /> <br /> <b><span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span>;DR: Run it with it's relic on a Command Squad for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(265);'>FNP</span>, Stubborn, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(487);'>PE</span> and your banner buffs for maximum Bloodletter-turd, if anything. Otherwise have fun converting.</b>]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ rowboatjellyfanxiii]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/665842/8165239.page"><b>rowboatjellyfanxiii wrote:</b></a><br/>So I FINALLY got the bloody thing in the post after 2 weeks and to my suprise -<br /> it sucks major dong.<br /> 85 Points for a nerfed Captain? Ok <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(93);'>MC</span> Powerfist and Artificer Armour as standard is cool but limited Warlord Trait? Ld9? Wat? I thought these guys were meant to be grizzled veterans of crusades far more gruelling than anything in modern <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span>! Lack of Eternal Warrior means he dies 99% of the time VS anything in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>CC</span> even with the fist, and no special rules past Legiones that make him a crap unit-buffer in general. The only thing redeeming about him is the relic, Panoply of the Crusader, which gaks all over <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> and is a nice replacement against the overcosted and highly unreliable Armour Indomitus. But it's a shame, because even though 'Ol Scar-eyes gets a decent relic, it's better spent on high-value units (Smashfucker with Stubborn and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(487);'>PE</span>:(<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span>) woah) that'll be targeted by your enemy more.<br /> <br /> <b><span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span>;DR: Run it with it's relic on a Command Squad for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(265);'>FNP</span>, Stubborn, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(487);'>PE</span> and your banner buffs for maximum Bloodletter-turd, if anything. Otherwise have fun converting.</b></div></blockquote><br /> <br /> I cant help but think you missed the point somewhere mate.<br /> <br /> In 30k - almost nothing has eternal warrior and LD9 is standard as well for centurion level characters. Are you using him in 30k or <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span>? In 30k - he is very good! a basic centurion with artificer armour and powerfist is 80 points. You get master crafted for 5 points on the fist which is difficult or impossible to access in most cases. He is actually a bargain for 30k all things considered. <br /> <br /> in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span> - with the crusader armour, he is over costed for sure. Stubborn is not needed for most <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span> marine units but <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(487);'>PE</span> can be nice sometimes - just not for the cost.<br /> <br /> I am not sure what you expected to be honest...]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 3 Oct 2015 13:58:07]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Massaen]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Yeah...not sure what exactly you're so upset about the rules were available online before you bought it.<br /> <br /> I got mine because it's a cool model, if you were hoping for a limited edition pay to win model with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(468);'>EW</span>, S10 @ initiative with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(24);'>D6</span>+6 Orbital Bombardments a turn, then no wonder your disappointed! <br /> <br /> D]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 4 Oct 2015 08:55:13]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/e994b627f07c39ec11f71159fda9b5c8.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/665842/8166760.page"><b>evildrcheese wrote:</b></a><br/>Yeah...not sure what exactly you're so upset about the rules were available online before you bought it.<br /> <br /> I got mine because it's a cool model, if you were hoping for a limited edition pay to win model with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(468);'>EW</span>, S10 @ initiative with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(24);'>D6</span>+6 Orbital Bombardments a turn, then no wonder your disappointed! <br /> <br /> D</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> I don't have a computer, so no PDF's. In 30k marine bashes- he's good.<br /> In <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span> anybash, he falls short by miles.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 4 Oct 2015 11:19:14]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ rowboatjellyfanxiii]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/665842/8166871.page"><b>rowboatjellyfanxiii wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/e994b627f07c39ec11f71159fda9b5c8.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/665842/8166760.page"><b>evildrcheese wrote:</b></a><br/>Yeah...not sure what exactly you're so upset about the rules were available online before you bought it.<br /> <br /> I got mine because it's a cool model, if you were hoping for a limited edition pay to win model with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(468);'>EW</span>, S10 @ initiative with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(24);'>D6</span>+6 Orbital Bombardments a turn, then no wonder your disappointed! <br /> <br /> D</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> <u>I don't have a computer, </u>so no PDF's. In 30k marine bashes- he's good.<br /> In <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span> anybash, he falls short by miles.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Then how are you posting on Dakka?   <img src="/s/i/a/8f7b3f87df347f2cf6c1e7d5e119a067.gif" border="0"> <br /> Smartphones can view PDFs, too.  ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 4 Oct 2015 16:00:05]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/0010d17c9554e9ea508b0053766ee611.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/665842/8167175.page"><b>Tannhauser42 wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/665842/8166871.page"><b>rowboatjellyfanxiii wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/e994b627f07c39ec11f71159fda9b5c8.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/665842/8166760.page"><b>evildrcheese wrote:</b></a><br/>Yeah...not sure what exactly you're so upset about the rules were available online before you bought it.<br /> <br /> I got mine because it's a cool model, if you were hoping for a limited edition pay to win model with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(468);'>EW</span>, S10 @ initiative with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(24);'>D6</span>+6 Orbital Bombardments a turn, then no wonder your disappointed! <br /> <br /> D</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> <u>I don't have a computer, </u>so no PDF's. In 30k marine bashes- he's good.<br /> In <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span> anybash, he falls short by miles.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Then how are you posting on Dakka?   <img src="/s/i/a/8f7b3f87df347f2cf6c1e7d5e119a067.gif" border="0"> <br /> Smartphones can view PDFs, too.  </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> indeed i think this guy just isnt the sharpest tool in the shed, like seriously. theres about a dozen <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span> commanders forgeworld has put out over the years and he isnt and wasnt viewed as one. hes certainly not the land raider value or any of the badab war <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>hq</span>'s. hes a 30k legion marine through and through]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 4 Oct 2015 16:13:31]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ ionusx]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/665842/8166871.page"><b>rowboatjellyfanxiii wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/e994b627f07c39ec11f71159fda9b5c8.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/665842/8166760.page"><b>evildrcheese wrote:</b></a><br/>Yeah...not sure what exactly you're so upset about the rules were available online before you bought it.<br /> <br /> I got mine because it's a cool model, if you were hoping for a limited edition pay to win model with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(468);'>EW</span>, S10 @ initiative with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(24);'>D6</span>+6 Orbital Bombardments a turn, then no wonder your disappointed! <br /> <br /> D</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> I don't have a computer, so no PDF's. In 30k marine bashes- he's good.<br /> In <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span> anybash, he falls short by miles.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> So when you use something in a game it wasn't intended to be used in, it doesn't perform well?<br /> <br /> ALERT CNN IMMEDIATELY! GET CONGRESS ON THE LINE!]]></description>
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