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				<description><![CDATA[ I'm a 5th ed <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40K</span> fan, and I'm considering starting playing with Forge World's Horus Heresy Legion lists and have a few questions.<br /> <br /> 1. On the surface <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(320);'>HH</span> seems more balanced than <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40K</span> proper, is this the case ? <br /> 2. I miss marine mech as it's mostly junk in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40K</span> now. Is mech viable in Horus Heresy ?<br /> 3. One for the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(134);'>UK</span> residents - I withdrew from playing at clubs/shops/tournaments as I didn't get on with 6th/7th. Is there a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(320);'>HH</span> tournament/organised play scene in the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(134);'>UK</span> ?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 21 Oct 2015 13:27:38]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:Considering Horus Heresy </title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Do it and don't look back! It's what <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span> should be.<br /> <br /> 1 - Generally yes. There's no unbound, Lords of War are more tightly controlled (up to 25% of points on Lords of War), <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(123);'>Str</span> : D is a lot less potent and the majority draw off the Crusade Legion List with special rules for each Legion that vary the list in some way such as adding Legion specific special units, characters and particular rites. Also, make sure you go through and play the wide array of different battle types, such as raids and the like. Mechanicum, Solar Auxilia and Knight lists are also Horus Heresy'd and Word Bearers can bring Dæmon allies.<br /> 2 - Oh yes, want to run Land Raider Proteus Squadron of 3 for 600pts (660 points for an armoured ceramite headache) in a single heavy support slot for a wall of AV14? Allowed. 9 Predators taking up 3 Heavy Support squads of most types? Allowed. Run an armoured spearhead list that allows you take Land Raider dedicated transports? Allowed! Though, 30k has masses of firepower so expect to take (and cause) a shedload of damage. Things don't last long, but you get lots of it!<br /> 3 - Don't know that one if I'm honest.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I was thinking of doing a 30k Raven Guard army.... Just might now.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 21 Oct 2015 16:16:23]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Unable to pin a location on you (props for being unaccessbile to stalkers!) but if you're around the Manchester area they have a dedicated <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(320);'>HH</span> night on Friday nights at the Arndale <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span>. <br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 21 Oct 2015 16:25:18]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Marine Bashes in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span> == Unfun<br /> Marine Bashes in 30k == Fun<br /> <br /> Sometimes I think <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(39);'>FW</span> should do all the rules writing.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 21 Oct 2015 16:46:47]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ One other thing I forgot to mention. If you've not seen one of Forgeworld's big black books in the person, you're in for a treat. You'll then be forced to wonder about the appalling value of the mainline codex books and the laughable special editions...]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 21 Oct 2015 17:44:05]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ zedmeister]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/6d4530e3c0624e3fb5481cdce15e865f.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/667798/8205063.page"><b>zedmeister wrote:</b></a><br/>One other thing I forgot to mention. If you've not seen one of Forgeworld's big black books in the person, you're in for a treat. You'll then be forced to wonder about the appalling value of the mainline codex books and the laughable special editions...</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Forge World stuff is consistently high quality.<br /> If they had full rights for pricing they'd outsell <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> by the shedload.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 21 Oct 2015 22:19:03]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ rowboatjellyfanxiii]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Thanks folks. It seems as though <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(320);'>HH</span> is what I'd hoped it would be.<br /> Now need to find some players ! (Birmingham, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(134);'>UK</span>)]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 22 Oct 2015 07:26:40]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Bartali]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/667798/8204468.page"><b>Bartali wrote:</b></a><br/>I'm a 5th ed <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40K</span> fan, and I'm considering starting playing with Forge World's Horus Heresy Legion lists and have a few questions.<br /> <br /> 1. On the surface <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(320);'>HH</span> seems more balanced than <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40K</span> proper, is this the case ? <br /> 2. I miss marine mech as it's mostly junk in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40K</span> now. Is mech viable in Horus Heresy ?<br /> 3. One for the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(134);'>UK</span> residents - I withdrew from playing at clubs/shops/tournaments as I didn't get on with 6th/7th. Is there a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(320);'>HH</span> tournament/organised play scene in the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(134);'>UK</span> ?</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> We play 30k <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(258);'>atm</span>. Our experience is that its more balanced than <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span>. We only play Marine armies <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(258);'>atm</span>. No Mechanicum. Mech is very viable in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(320);'>HH</span>. Actually you need a showcase piece in your army like a Spartan tank.<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 22 Oct 2015 07:44:06]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ wuestenfux]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ We mix playing <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span> codices vs. 30k armies fairly frequently, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(303);'>FWIW</span>.<br /> <br /> But the funnest games I've played to date have been 30k army vs. 30k army, and 30k army vs. Orks.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 22 Oct 2015 14:44:02]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ jasper76]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/d72f4e51c0d9d4660bc1a3c4fe4328e7.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/667798/8207045.page"><b>jasper76 wrote:</b></a><br/>We mix playing <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span> codices vs. 30k armies fairly frequently, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(303);'>FWIW</span>.<br /> <br /> But the funnest games I've played to date have been 30k army vs. 30k army, and 30k army vs. Orks.</div></blockquote><br /> If you mix <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span> and 30k, it will be better to play at higher pt levels.<br /> At smaller pt levels, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span> armies may have an advantage.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 22 Oct 2015 14:46:11]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ wuestenfux]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Is it acceptable to use regular <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span> marines as 30k? It would be fun to try, just really don't have the budget to buy more marines]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 23 Oct 2015 03:50:49]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ luky7dayz]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Being discussed elsewhere.<br /> <br /> <a href="http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/667848.page" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/667848.page</a>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 23 Oct 2015 04:48:13]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ SharkoutofWata]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ It's fairly balanced but there is still ranged D and imp knights which are two of the I felt spoilt <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span> over recent years. That said, no super formations which really wreck <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(258);'>atm</span>, allies arent as easy to abuse and I found people generally play it more for fluff and fun. <br /> <br /> That being said I play word bearers which can be horrendously unbalanced if you want to play to win but I tend to keep it chilled out and in my area we swap invisibility for the old puppet master which is far more fun. <br /> <br /> It's not cheap and can sometimes be a little repetitive due to a slight lack of diversity with legion units but it's really good fun. <br /> Few people I play it with call it <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span> for grownups which whilst I don't fully agree with its not far off. Less powergamers more drinking fun gamers! ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 23 Oct 2015 12:08:56]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ dark_red]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Hmm now that i looked into it it does look really cool to play. the lack of ready rules for thousand sons is disheartening, but all the other forces look really cool]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 23 Oct 2015 16:12:05]]> GMT</pubDate>
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