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				<description><![CDATA[ Tomorrow night (Dec 16th), we'll be featuring another live battle report of Logan's Tau vs Nick's Astra Militarum! Tune in live @ <a href="http://twitch.tv/1plusarmour" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://twitch.tv/1plusarmour</a> at 7PM EST!<br /> <br /> <blockquote class="uncited"><div><b>Logan's Tau</b><br /> -----------<br /> XV8 Commander Crisis Suit w/ Command and Control Node, Multi-spectrum Sensor Suite, Neuroweb System Jammer, Onager Gauntlet, Puretide Engram Neurochip, Stimulant Injector, Vectored Retro-Thrusters, XV8-02 Crisis 'Iridium' Battlesuit<br /> Ethereal<br /> 10x Kroot Carnivores w/ Kroot Hound<br /> 10x Kroot Carnivores w/ Kroot Hound<br /> Tetra<br /> Tetra<br /> Tetra<br /> 3x Broadside w/ Early Warning Override, Twin-linked High-Yield Missile Pod, Twin-linked Smart Missile System, 5x MV8 Missile Drone<br /> KV128 Stormsurge w/ Advanced Targeting System, Early Warning Override, Pulse Driver Cannon, Shield Generator, Twin-linked Burst Cannon <br /> <br /> Riptide Wing<br /> 2x Riptide Shas'vre w/ Early Warning Override, Ion Accelerator, Stimulant Injector, Twin-linked Fusion Blaster<br /> Riptide Shas'vre w/ Early Warning Override, Heavy Burst Cannon, Stimulant Injector, Twin-linked Smart Missile System<br /> <br /> VS <br /> <br /> <b>Nick's Astra Militarum</b><br /> -----------<br /> Cadian Battle Group<br /> <br /> Battle Group Command<br /> - Company Command Squad <br /> <br /> Emperor's Fist Armoured Company<br /> - Leman Russ Exterminator w/ 2x Multi-melta, Lascannon<br /> - Leman Russ Exterminator w/ 2x Multi-melta, Lascannon<br /> - Leman Russ Squadron w/ Demolisher<br /> - Tank Commander w/ 2x Multi-melta, LAscannon, Pask<br /> - Leman Russ Executioner w/ 2x Plasma Cannon, Heavy Bolter <br /> <br /> Emperor's Blade Assault Company<br /> - Company Command Squad w/ Chimera<br /> - Hellhound Squadron<br /> - Veterans w/ Chimera<br /> - Veterans w/ Chimera<br /> - Veterans w/ Chimera</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> The AV14 wall will be daunting against my Tau, as will the huge amount of AP2 weaponry. Here's to hoping that I can get close enough with my Riptides, and roll well enough with my Ordnance weapons to punch through the armour!<br /> <br /> What are your thoughts on this matchup? Who will walk away the winner? What would you change with the lists?]]></description>
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				<title>Dec 16th @ 7PM EST - Tau vs Astra Militarum (1850pts)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Against Astra Militarium I would much rather have HBC on my Riptides than <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(60);'>IA</span>. 12 Rending shots (24 with firestorm ability) will help much more against AV14 than <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(60);'>IA</span>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 15 Dec 2015 21:55:45]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/673474/8321577.page"><b>notredameguy10 wrote:</b></a><br/>Against Astra Militarium I would much rather have HBC on my Riptides than <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(60);'>IA</span>. 12 Rending shots (24 with firestorm ability) will help much more against AV14 than <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(60);'>IA</span></div></blockquote><br /> <br /> I think it's going to be very close on the math (working this out below). If we ignore Firestorm (since it would double the result in any scenario), we get the following when buffed to BS5:<br /> <br /> HBC - 12 shots &gt; 10 hits &gt; 2 Rends (1.6, rounding up) &gt; 1 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(661);'>HP</span> (1.3, rounding down) and no modifier on the result if a pen.<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(60);'>IA</span> - 1 hit &gt; 1HP (~.66 rounding up) with a +1 modifier on pen result<br /> <br /> So with this, it does look like you're right, though <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(60);'>IA</span> has a chance of clipping multiple vehicles, etc... but I think I would still give the slight edge to the HBC.<br /> <br /> With that said, this is not a tailored list, but rather what I'm hoping to run at Adepticon so it's an attempt to account for all variety of things (on-demand AP2, template interceptor, etc...) where running only HBC could fall flat on its face (e.g. against Pod Grav Centurions). I did run triple HBC Riptides in a game last night against drop pod sisters, however, and it was extremely strong (especially while all had <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(388);'>SMS</span> instead of Fusion). As it stands, I'm going to test both out and see where it gets me! My models all have the weapons magnetized in either case!]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 15 Dec 2015 22:14:36]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ 1PlusLogan]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Is it going to be a live game or vassle.?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 16 Dec 2015 01:22:20]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Live, in person, at a local store! The goal is to have a live game streamed every Wednesday (except holidays, etc...).]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 16 Dec 2015 03:10:46]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ 1PlusLogan]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Quick bump - we'll be live at 7PM tonight @ twitch.tv/1plusarmour!]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 16 Dec 2015 21:39:13]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ How'd the game turn out?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 17 Dec 2015 19:10:03]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:Dec 16th @ 7PM EST - Tau vs Astra Militarum (1850pts)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ What a blow out from Nick, though the nerf to pask will help when playing against him now]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 17 Dec 2015 20:43:44]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Skimask Mohawk]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/673474/8325787.page"><b>ArmchairArbiter wrote:</b></a><br/>How'd the game turn out?</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Massive victory for the Astra Millitarum. Some misplays on my end, and horrific dice rolls, decided the game by the end of turn 2.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 17 Dec 2015 22:00:27]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ 1PlusLogan]]></author>
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