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				<title>Need help to defeating Eldar sear council and bike spam, with WK</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I play Tau. Yes let the butthurt flow. However in my local supremacy league, the player in the middle has defended twice, and I am his third challenge. If he wins again, he gets the title, goods, presteige and all that. I however have every intention of beating him. The hitch is, I have yet to defeat him with any of his armies. He is smart, a good player, and knows his shizzle. I have access to every model from Tau except Vespid, which I don't think is an issue. I am looking on advice to defeat this. <br /> <br /> Current plan is <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(308);'>MSU</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(93);'>MCs</span> and suits (crisis and broadside) with fire warrior and kroot spam. <br /> <br /> 1500 pts hunter coningent or anything that looks like it could defeat it. Please help.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 5 Jan 2016 16:30:01]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Need help to defeating Eldar sear council and bike spam, with WK</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ If you could get something tough into combat that might help even just to slow it down. You could always ally in a culexus assassin as well?<br /> <br /> I'm not sure but these suggestions might help]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 5 Jan 2016 16:48:18]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Only other army I have access to is Chaos, and unlikely to be able to do much with an ally force of Chaos, unless I just spam kroot and Fire warriors and ally in enough to get my 2 heldrakes in, even then against his WK Ill just slowly get whittled down<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 5 Jan 2016 18:56:12]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Need help to defeating Eldar sear council and bike spam, with WK</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Stormsurge and Drone-Net to take out the wk, min cad to get Stormsurge, Retaliation Cadre to get assured turn 2 deep strike on bikers with plasma crisis with drone net support perhaps? ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 5 Jan 2016 20:04:04]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ ooooooooooh.<br /> <br /> See, the way to kill a wraithknight in a points efficient way is actually vespid, with allied Possessed support. <br /> <br /> Rough break, dude.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 5 Jan 2016 20:27:49]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I still prefer to take out WK with mallets. <br /> <br /> Seriously, get the D missiles. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 5 Jan 2016 20:41:52]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Oh, also this puts me in middle spot, so must also be a list that can handle other stuff, not just a beat eldar list. Have to defend 3 times in a row to take the prize. <br /> <br /> Without going Stormsurge, I was considering Dawnblade with 3 riptides, retaliation cadre and ranged support cadre. <br /> <br /> Watching games, I have learned WK can wait till turn 2, the sear council on bikes and his other bike blob actually need to die first turn, Otherwise he ends up with 2++ rerollables or something crazy like that. So deep striking may be a bad idea. <br /> <br /> Tossing around double <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(60);'>IA</span> riptide wing and marker light support from a commander with Drone Controoler and lots of fire warriors with whats left over, or possibly a farsight bomb attempting to use the kill my piranha strategy, but I don't think he will fall for that. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 5 Jan 2016 21:35:34]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ redleger]]></author>
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				<title>Need help to defeating Eldar sear council and bike spam, with WK</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ If you don't have D-missiles, FSC with Monster Hunter will do the trick against WKs.<br /> <br /> <a href="http://www.fortheemperor.net/2015/10/29/formation-firebase-support-cadre/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.fortheemperor.net/2015/10/29/formation-firebase-support-cadre/</a>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 5 Jan 2016 21:45:31]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Need help to defeating Eldar sear council and bike spam, with WK</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/675396/8360716.page"><b>Yoyoyo wrote:</b></a><br/>If you don't have D-missiles, FSC with Monster Hunter will do the trick against WKs.<br /> <br /> <a href="http://www.fortheemperor.net/2015/10/29/formation-firebase-support-cadre/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.fortheemperor.net/2015/10/29/formation-firebase-support-cadre/</a></div></blockquote><br /> <br /> I was leaning towards this, but honestly the WK is not what scares me, its the huge psychic blob of bikes with rerollable 2++ that is winning him the games. <br /> <br /> I would post my list in the list area, But Im sure he frequents this. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 5 Jan 2016 21:59:50]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ redleger]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ It's a blob of Scatterbikes and not <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(308);'>MSU</span>?<br /> <br /> Or do you just mean the Farseers and Warlocks on Jetbikes?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 5 Jan 2016 22:13:41]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ correct<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 5 Jan 2016 22:14:35]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Check this post<br /> <br /> <a href="http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/670187.page#8253720" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/670187.page#8253720</a>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 5 Jan 2016 22:59:01]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Good read. Thank you. But as Tau then how do i deal with his psychic invincible farseer bikes and a WK while surviving to pull ovjectives and points?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 6 Jan 2016 00:43:11]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:Need help to defeating Eldar sear council and bike spam, with WK</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ can mark lighters push up <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(14);'>BS</span> against invisibility ? also are you playing by ITC rules?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 6 Jan 2016 01:34:02]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:Need help to defeating Eldar sear council and bike spam, with WK</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/675396/8361218.page"><b>HoundsofDemos wrote:</b></a><br/>can mark lighters push up <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(14);'>BS</span> against invisibility ? also are you playing by ITC rules?</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Yes they can, both with and without using ITC rules.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 6 Jan 2016 01:36:47]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ If you have a stormsurge or 2, it should be able to nuke the WK before it ever becomes an issue with plenty of markerlight support]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 6 Jan 2016 02:17:32]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Stormsurges were used against this list before and failed <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(84);'>lol</span>. However maybe it was the way he played it. The person told be the best way to beat his list is <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(308);'>MSU</span> Marines with Grav spam. Well I don't own marines and only other option I have like that is Farsight plasma rifle bomb with 5 suits and one bodyguard to bring the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(626);'>MSS</span> CnC and Puretide engram neuro chip for the WK, and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(626);'>MSS</span> and CNC for the seer council blob on bikes. <br /> <br /> Right now its a riptide wing<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(683);'>CAD</span><br /> Farsight 4 suits with 2x plasma<br /> <br /> 2x5 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(39);'>Fws</span> thats 1500 pts with equipped right. I think that will et tabled easily, and I suck at making hard to beat lists, I make fun lists. So really, other than 3 Stormsurges, which would still get tabled, what should I do.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 6 Jan 2016 13:40:23]]> GMT</pubDate>
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