niv-mizzet wrote:
Scouts are the more competitive option.

The reasons are twofold:

1: To get the tacticals to do anything, you need to buy them a transport, or else they will be walking at snail speed from your deployment zone taking long range bolter shots. Any opponent with any sense of target priority will leave them alive until he's dealt with other threats and is ready to murder them. If you do go with the transport route, the rest of your army should also be on the board turn 1 to maximize saturation, and not a lot of BA likes starting in your zone at deployment.

2: Scouts are cheaper, and come with infiltrate, scout, and by extension outflank, therefore not needing a transport. If you're going for a turn 1 threat overload, you can infiltrate while having pods and such arrive. If going for a beta strike with descent of angels, you can outflank. Being equipped with knife/pistol, they can put out a lot of furious charge attacks if left alone.

Martel732 wrote:
Drop pods are high risk/reward. If something goes wrong, your units are stranded where you dropped them.

 Pilgrim of the dark wrote:
New player here. Decided to run Blood Angels against all advice and have already purchased a couple models (furioso dread and death company). I'm going to be buying more models soon to get a battle forged Baal strike force army together to start playing.

As you know, BA have only 2 troop choices to choose from to fill the mandatory 2 troops slots...

My question is what are the advantages and disadvantages of tactical marines vs scouts? What would you choose to fill the 2 troops slots and why?

Thanks in advance!

 wuestenfux wrote:
It makes sense to give the Dreads heavy flamers under the pf since then he can also deal with (swarm) infantry emerging by infiltrate or outflank.

 Pilgrim of the dark wrote:

 wuestenfux wrote:
It makes sense to give the Dreads heavy flamers under the pf since then he can also deal with (swarm) infantry emerging by infiltrate or outflank.

This is what I'm thinking, since the frag cannon is Assault 2, I'd get 2 hits per model under the template (or do I get to use 1 template, then another positioned differently?), then I'd have another template for the heavy flamer, then the power fist. I want to keep my dreads wading into infantry decimating entire, or most of, units.

This still leaves me the problem of anti-armor. If I'm going to be combat squad-ing my tacticals (basically running 4 5-man squads after they deploy), would it make sense to do a heavy flamer and flamer, then have the sergeant running a combi-melta, or running a heavy flamer, melta, and a combi-melta on the sarge?

 Pilgrim of the dark wrote:

 wuestenfux wrote:
It makes sense to give the Dreads heavy flamers under the pf since then he can also deal with (swarm) infantry emerging by infiltrate or outflank.

This is what I'm thinking, since the frag cannon is Assault 2, I'd get 2 hits per model under the template (or do I get to use 1 template, then another positioned differently?), then I'd have another template for the heavy flamer, then the power fist. I want to keep my dreads wading into infantry decimating entire, or most of, units.

This still leaves me the problem of anti-armor. If I'm going to be combat squad-ing my tacticals (basically running 4 5-man squads after they deploy), would it make sense to do a heavy flamer and flamer, then have the sergeant running a combi-melta, or running a heavy flamer, melta, and a combi-melta on the sarge?

 Mulletdude wrote:

 Pilgrim of the dark wrote:

 wuestenfux wrote:
It makes sense to give the Dreads heavy flamers under the pf since then he can also deal with (swarm) infantry emerging by infiltrate or outflank.

This is what I'm thinking, since the frag cannon is Assault 2, I'd get 2 hits per model under the template (or do I get to use 1 template, then another positioned differently?), then I'd have another template for the heavy flamer, then the power fist. I want to keep my dreads wading into infantry decimating entire, or most of, units.

This still leaves me the problem of anti-armor. If I'm going to be combat squad-ing my tacticals (basically running 4 5-man squads after they deploy), would it make sense to do a heavy flamer and flamer, then have the sergeant running a combi-melta, or running a heavy flamer, melta, and a combi-melta on the sarge?

The biggest issue with Heavy Flamer/Frag Cannon is that you have to choose a weapon and resolve that weapon first. Lets say you can get 5 models under the template for the Frag Cannon and you end up killing 4. Now the Heavy Flamer goes to shoot and only gets 1. Multiple template weapons with different names means less hits overall as you kill stuff. The melta-gun instead of heavy flamer lets you threaten vehicles as well as hordes.

 Pilgrim of the dark wrote:
How do you know how many weapons a model can equip? For example: if I have a model that has access to special weapons and melee weapons, can I just choose as many as I'm willing to pay the points for? Or can I just choose one ranged and one melee?

 Pilgrim of the dark wrote:
Where do you find weapon points costs?

For example, the sergeant can take weapons from the melee and ranged lists, but when I was flipping through the lists, I don't recall seeing points, only the weapon profile.

For most units, I see the points costs of upgrades listed in the options list, but some units don't have this info listed for their upgrades.