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				<title>[1500] - Space Wolves - Am i being dumb by *not* including Thunderwolves in my list?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Well - that's just it.<br /> <br /> Should Thunderwolves be an auto-include?<br /> <br /> Thank you, so very much!]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 6 Mar 2016 01:00:51]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>[1500] - Space Wolves - Am i being dumb by *not* including Thunderwolves in my list?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ How competitive does it need to be? If you want to win tournaments then yes is the most likely answer. If it's just for casual games then no.]]></description>
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				<title>[1500] - Space Wolves - Am i being dumb by *not* including Thunderwolves in my list?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Makes sense <img src="/s/i/a/6d3c0a908a3861135dfaebde91c0ecf6.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> they aren't stupid-levels of competitive, they can be gentle hehe<br /> <br /> Did I say, Gentle? Bahaha<br /> All the same - I think I should make room for them, yes...<br /> <br /> Last question, is it enough to field them unequipped? Or should I add some weapons to them?<br /> <br /> Or, is it enough to include a beastly Lord on Mount, with an unequipped escort of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(504);'>TWC</span>?<br /> <br /> Thank you!<br /> <br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 6 Mar 2016 01:32:04]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ MekLeN]]></author>
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				<title>[1500] - Space Wolves - Am i being dumb by *not* including Thunderwolves in my list?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I've seen some lists with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(504);'>TWC</span> with hammer/shield perform very well. Very strong unit, especially when geared to kill stuff. If you can fit in geared <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(504);'>TWC</span> then do so by all means. And <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(504);'>TWC</span> will win you more games, so definitely worth taking if competitive gameplay is what you want.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 6 Mar 2016 04:33:01]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ mrveng]]></author>
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				<title>[1500] - Space Wolves - Am i being dumb by *not* including Thunderwolves in my list?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Generally the way I've seen them run is that every model has a storm shield and the sarge has a powerfist or thunderhammer. This provides lots of tanking and ensures you don't simply get plasmaed to death with no saves.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 6 Mar 2016 09:17:31]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Drasius]]></author>
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				<title>[1500] - Space Wolves - Am i being dumb by *not* including Thunderwolves in my list?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/8f3fb5d4bb476d8a5b81f2fea041342d.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/682722/8504118.page"><b>mrveng wrote:</b></a><br/>I've seen some lists with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(504);'>TWC</span> with hammer/shield perform very well. Very strong unit, especially when geared to kill stuff. If you can fit in geared <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(504);'>TWC</span> then do so by all means. And <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(504);'>TWC</span> will win you more games, so definitely worth taking if competitive gameplay is what you want.</div></blockquote> yea but too many makes you very one dimensional and it can get you eatyen alive by some people. <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(504);'>TWC</span> lists are good but when they lose im pretty certain nothing is quite as decisive ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 6 Mar 2016 14:36:34]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ ionusx]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ So, general consensus is to not tun them naked.<br /> <br /> I got a lot going on in my 1500 pts list, so think I maybe should run them with this loadout to keep pts down:<br /> <br /> Wolf Guard Battle Leader,<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span> and Krakenbone sword (ap2 relic) using company of the great wolf for +1 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(149);'>WS</span><br /> <br /> 3x <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(504);'>TWC</span>, 1 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span> on leader, wolf claw on everyone <br /> <br /> 345pts in total, about 38pts per wound. Able to slice through anything 3+ and still utilize rending so as not to overpay and nullify the ability to rend. <br /> <br /> I think preserving the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(392);'>WGBL</span>'s i5 seems ideal, able to land much damage before ever getting struck back.<br /> <br /> Wolf claws are amazing powerswords, w/ shred being like monster hunter.<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span> on leader lets me absorb challenges, which I Must do as Fenris, taking on moderately powerful characters w/o too much trouble; if i5 can strike first, definitely the better Challenger to go on.<br /> <br /> Ultimately, the main questions are: is this unit an auto include as Space Wolves? And should I run them naked loadout. Seems the answers are: Yes use them, and definitely put some gear on them.<br /> <br /> Thank you so much for replying!!!!<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 6 Mar 2016 15:38:49]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ MekLeN]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ well you dont need to run them, and you can certainly win games without them, i actually dont own any black knights or many ravenwing in general, like 3 different ravenwing unit (well 4 i guess after magnets) and i have yet to field them and i win plenty of games, i do more then fine, i win games, i lose games. everyone loses games and being able to accept that is key to broadening your horizons on your army and how you understand them]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 6 Mar 2016 16:08:25]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ ionusx]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ If you get Curse of the Wulfen, there are some formations that make some lists that aren't dependent on <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(504);'>TWC</span>.<br /> <br /> Still, I make <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(504);'>TWC</span> my common go to unit for my Space Wolves. I generally go for a list with a kitted out <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(392);'>WGBL</span> or <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(227);'>WL</span> with 5 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(504);'>TWC</span> all with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span> and a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(105);'>PF</span> or <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>TH</span> on the leader.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 6 Mar 2016 16:16:09]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Norfallen]]></author>
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				<title>Re:[1500] - Space Wolves - Am i being dumb by *not* including Thunderwolves in my list?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I'm currently running one unit of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(504);'>TWC</span> in my 1500 point list. They have one Wolf Claw and 3 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span>. They are accompanied by a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(392);'>WGBL</span> with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(105);'>PF</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span> and Helm of Durfast. Idealy I'd like the krakenbone sword but I can't pull it off with the Blackmanes. I back this up with Blackmanes and a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(149);'>WS</span> allied detachment to get grav cents in the list. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 6 Mar 2016 16:17:49]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ crouching lictor]]></author>
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				<title>Re:[1500] - Space Wolves - Am i being dumb by *not* including Thunderwolves in my list?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Wow thank you for your responses<br /> <br /> I have played a few games recently on this new list (yes, post Wulfen book, tried Iron Wolves and Wulfen a lot).  Found some cool ideas, however Wulfen in themselves are beasty haha<br /> <br /> List I'm hammering out:<br /> <a href="http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/682706.page#8503641" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/682706.page#8503641</a><br /> <br /> Not throwing them in is hard to do, but seems I gotta thin things out to do so =/<br /> <br /> That's 1500 though, right? <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(84);'>lol</span>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 6 Mar 2016 22:41:24]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ MekLeN]]></author>
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