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				<description><![CDATA[ A friend wants to take on my guard at 1850, but I'm a bit short so planning on bringing some of my <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(25);'>DA</span>.  His only recommendation for our game is that I bring the best list I can bring, including any flavor of cheese we desire.  I haven't used it before, but I really want to test out Azrael in a blob, with Ezekiel hopefully bring invis, but I'm debating what's the easiest way to take him (since he's a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(787);'>LoW</span>).<br /> <br /> I can't remember, are there any stipulations about how big your detachments need to be?  If I run two <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(683);'>CAD</span>, can the Azrael one be my primary even if it's less points?  Can I run Azrael in a barebones <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(683);'>CAD</span>?  I couldn't find anything in the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(13);'>BRB</span>, could you point me to a page if I'm missing something?<br /> <br /> So the overall unit will be 5 squads, with 5 flamers, 2 vox casters, and 2 autocannons.  Azrael giving 4++, Zeke giving telepathy powers (invis hopefully) and doubling attacks, and a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(347);'>lvl</span> 2 primaris psyker on divination.  Maybe not the deadliest, but lolololol  <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0"> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 3 Apr 2016 04:49:15]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/7136833fb1204c8691422a0fcdf2fc63.png" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/686011/8561821.page"><b>kingbobbito wrote:</b></a><br/>I can't remember, are there any stipulations about how big your detachments need to be?</div></blockquote> None. <blockquote class="uncited"><div>If I run two <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(683);'>CAD</span>, can the Azrael one be my primary even if it's less points?</div></blockquote> Yes. <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(298);'>AFAIK</span> the only detachments that can't be your primary are the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(687);'>AD</span> and IK Oathsworn detachment. <blockquote class="uncited"><div>Can I run Azrael in a barebones <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(683);'>CAD</span>?</div></blockquote> Most definitely.<br /> <br /> <blockquote class="uncited"><div>So the overall unit will be 5 squads, with 5 flamers, 2 vox casters, and 2 autocannons.  Azrael giving 4++, Zeke giving telepathy powers (invis hopefully) and doubling attacks, and a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(347);'>lvl</span> 2 primaris psyker on divination.  Maybe not the deadliest, but lolololol  <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0"> </div></blockquote> Ezekiel only buffs the number of attacks for units/models with the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(25);'>DA</span> faction.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 3 Apr 2016 09:28:42]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ azreal isnt worth it anymore, hes pretty trashy]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 3 Apr 2016 18:31:32]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/2496412ff6ac9f399bca0476be9297bd.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/686011/8562033.page"><b>Lammikkovalas wrote:</b></a><br/>Ezekiel only buffs the number of attacks for units/models with the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(25);'>DA</span> faction.</div></blockquote>Ah, that bit I missed, thanks for pointing it out!]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 3 Apr 2016 18:51:56]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/27fa50fcf77b8b6091711cf947d8d074.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/686011/8562691.page"><b>ionusx wrote:</b></a><br/>azreal isnt worth it anymore, hes pretty trashy</div></blockquote><br /> Actually the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(280);'>OP</span>'s proposed use for him is one of the few ways he might actually be worth taking. Giving a blob of 50 or so guardsmen a 4++ save is pretty gross, especially if he can get Invisibility on them as well.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 3 Apr 2016 19:05:06]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Azrael gets use in certain Thunderdome lists. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 3 Apr 2016 19:38:32]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Slayer-Fan123]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/6e2ed328f7febcb2b83a2f78c3938917.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/686011/8562748.page"><b>ZergSmasher wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/27fa50fcf77b8b6091711cf947d8d074.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/686011/8562691.page"><b>ionusx wrote:</b></a><br/>azreal isnt worth it anymore, hes pretty trashy</div></blockquote><br /> Actually the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(280);'>OP</span>'s proposed use for him is one of the few ways he might actually be worth taking. Giving a blob of 50 or so guardsmen a 4++ save is pretty gross, especially if he can get Invisibility on them as well.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Couple that with the warlord trait that gives his unit <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(265);'>FNP</span> when they are within 3" of an objective and you're golden.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 3 Apr 2016 19:53:49]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Lammikkovalas]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/2496412ff6ac9f399bca0476be9297bd.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/686011/8562814.page"><b>Lammikkovalas wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/6e2ed328f7febcb2b83a2f78c3938917.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/686011/8562748.page"><b>ZergSmasher wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/27fa50fcf77b8b6091711cf947d8d074.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/686011/8562691.page"><b>ionusx wrote:</b></a><br/>azreal isnt worth it anymore, hes pretty trashy</div></blockquote><br /> Actually the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(280);'>OP</span>'s proposed use for him is one of the few ways he might actually be worth taking. Giving a blob of 50 or so guardsmen a 4++ save is pretty gross, especially if he can get Invisibility on them as well.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Couple that with the warlord trait that gives his unit <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(265);'>FNP</span> when they are within 3" of an objective and you're golden.</div></blockquote> hes a 215 point guy that if he gets challenged out dies to a cough]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 4 Apr 2016 01:00:39]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ ionusx]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ That depends on what he's challenged out by. A <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(504);'>TWC</span> dude can easily take the challenge while Azrael swings away at the squad. <br /> <br /> He isn't GREAT but you're giving him far less credit than you should. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 4 Apr 2016 01:02:20]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Slayer-Fan123]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/27fa50fcf77b8b6091711cf947d8d074.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/686011/8563225.page"><b>ionusx wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/2496412ff6ac9f399bca0476be9297bd.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/686011/8562814.page"><b>Lammikkovalas wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/6e2ed328f7febcb2b83a2f78c3938917.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/686011/8562748.page"><b>ZergSmasher wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/27fa50fcf77b8b6091711cf947d8d074.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/686011/8562691.page"><b>ionusx wrote:</b></a><br/>azreal isnt worth it anymore, hes pretty trashy</div></blockquote><br /> Actually the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(280);'>OP</span>'s proposed use for him is one of the few ways he might actually be worth taking. Giving a blob of 50 or so guardsmen a 4++ save is pretty gross, especially if he can get Invisibility on them as well.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Couple that with the warlord trait that gives his unit <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(265);'>FNP</span> when they are within 3" of an objective and you're golden.</div></blockquote> hes a 215 point guy that if he gets challenged out dies to a cough</div></blockquote><br /> If he's going in a combined blob of 5 Infantry Squads, then there's 5 sergeants to bravely step up first...]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 4 Apr 2016 01:21:04]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ GoonBandito]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/2496412ff6ac9f399bca0476be9297bd.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/686011/8562814.page"><b>Lammikkovalas wrote:</b></a><br/>Couple that with the warlord trait that gives his unit <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(265);'>FNP</span> when they are within 3" of an objective and you're golden.</div></blockquote> My exact plan  <img src="/s/i/a/5d13fa41280d6fdef786d41bc175d3f6.gif" border="0"> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I have a similar plan for Azrael but with 75 Fenrisan wolves.   ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Wait.... if I run a priest I can war hymn to reroll my invuln in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>CC</span>.....]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ kingbobbito]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Pretty sure there was a high ranked <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(25);'>DA</span> list with Azrael as part of some space wolves/librarius Conclave shenanigans to give them all a 4++ from <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(300);'>LVO</span> this year]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 4 Apr 2016 15:40:56]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/7136833fb1204c8691422a0fcdf2fc63.png" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/686011/8563401.page"><b>kingbobbito wrote:</b></a><br/>Wait.... if I run a priest I can war hymn to reroll my invuln in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>CC</span>.....</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> <br /> Yes you can...that is the tactic with him. I assumed that you just left the priest out of the original list on accident. I wouldnt bother with the autocannons. I would take melta bombs on all your <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(69);'>IG</span> squad leaders though. You dont want to be tarpitted by a single dread./sentinel. Power axes can also be good if you have the points, it adds a little extra punch and some <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(6);'>AP</span> 2 since Azreal is only swinging AP3. ]]></description>
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