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I'm looking to invest in a nice Winsor & newton kolinsky sable brush, and im looking to get what ever size the standard brush is in the citadel range.

I cant tell if its a 2 or a 3, any help would be super. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/686446/8569245.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/686446/8569245.page GMT Re:Citadel brush sizes to normal people and real world sizes
Not sure what that size equates to in the GW brushes, but those are the three brushes I have in that caliber and they are truly invaluable tools. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/686446/8569260.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/686446/8569260.page GMT Re:Citadel brush sizes to normal people and real world sizes
Mdlbuildr wrote:
I would just get an 0 and 00 W&N. If budget allows, a 000 as well.

Not sure what that size equates to in the GW brushes, but those are the three brushes I have in that caliber and they are truly invaluable tools.


I thought about getting the fine details, but honestly as of late, i have gotten away from using them, i have done most of my painting in the standard brush now, even the fine details, about what size does the 00 equate to in the citadel range?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/686446/8569287.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/686446/8569287.page GMT Re:Citadel brush sizes to normal people and real world sizes
the 1 is what I use for super small detail work even eyes. the complex eye work does need a smaller brush but for example a space marine lens and a simplistic method its fine. even then going to a 0 is the lowest ive ever needed

2 is what i would equate to GW's standard size. ive painted tanks with the thing when some dog related mistakes happened to my larger brushes]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/686446/8569340.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/686446/8569340.page GMT Re:Citadel brush sizes to normal people and real world sizes
eosgreen wrote:
woah a 00 and 000 on the winsor and newton are TINY and frankly unuseable for most application and i mean 99.99 percent of what most people do. are you talking round brushes or some other kind. i cant fathom what 000 is compared to my 0

the 1 is what I use for super small detail work even eyes. the complex eye work does need a smaller brush but for example a space marine lens and a simplistic method its fine. even then going to a 0 is the lowest ive ever needed

2 is what i would equate to GW's standard size. ive painted tanks with the thing when some dog related mistakes happened to my larger brushes


I honestly cant tell if the standard is a 2 or 3 and our local Golden demon painter is out of town right now at a competition so i cant ask him haha ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/686446/8569347.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/686446/8569347.page GMT Re:Citadel brush sizes to normal people and real world sizes
 Backspacehacker wrote:
eosgreen wrote:
woah a 00 and 000 on the winsor and newton are TINY and frankly unuseable for most application and i mean 99.99 percent of what most people do. are you talking round brushes or some other kind. i cant fathom what 000 is compared to my 0

the 1 is what I use for super small detail work even eyes. the complex eye work does need a smaller brush but for example a space marine lens and a simplistic method its fine. even then going to a 0 is the lowest ive ever needed

2 is what i would equate to GW's standard size. ive painted tanks with the thing when some dog related mistakes happened to my larger brushes


I honestly cant tell if the standard is a 2 or 3 and our local Golden demon painter is out of town right now at a competition so i cant ask him haha


i remember the gw standard brush from 10 years ago i used. its about the size of a 2. 3 seems huge to me and i cant fathom using a larger brush for troop size models. then again 3 might not be THAT much bigger still.... also lucky you that theres a good painter near you. i'm the best in my area and it sucks]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/686446/8569392.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/686446/8569392.page GMT Re:Citadel brush sizes to normal people and real world sizes
eosgreen wrote:
 Backspacehacker wrote:
eosgreen wrote:
woah a 00 and 000 on the winsor and newton are TINY and frankly unuseable for most application and i mean 99.99 percent of what most people do. are you talking round brushes or some other kind. i cant fathom what 000 is compared to my 0

the 1 is what I use for super small detail work even eyes. the complex eye work does need a smaller brush but for example a space marine lens and a simplistic method its fine. even then going to a 0 is the lowest ive ever needed

2 is what i would equate to GW's standard size. ive painted tanks with the thing when some dog related mistakes happened to my larger brushes


I honestly cant tell if the standard is a 2 or 3 and our local Golden demon painter is out of town right now at a competition so i cant ask him haha


i remember the gw standard brush from 10 years ago i used. its about the size of a 2. 3 seems huge to me and i cant fathom using a larger brush for troop size models. then again 3 might not be THAT much bigger still.... also lucky you that theres a good painter near you. i'm the best in my area and it sucks


2 might be the standard, 3 might be the large brush, ill probably just get a 2 and see how it goes from there.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/686446/8569399.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/686446/8569399.page GMT Re:Citadel brush sizes to normal people and real world sizes
 Backspacehacker wrote:
eosgreen wrote:
 Backspacehacker wrote:
eosgreen wrote:
woah a 00 and 000 on the winsor and newton are TINY and frankly unuseable for most application and i mean 99.99 percent of what most people do. are you talking round brushes or some other kind. i cant fathom what 000 is compared to my 0

the 1 is what I use for super small detail work even eyes. the complex eye work does need a smaller brush but for example a space marine lens and a simplistic method its fine. even then going to a 0 is the lowest ive ever needed

2 is what i would equate to GW's standard size. ive painted tanks with the thing when some dog related mistakes happened to my larger brushes


I honestly cant tell if the standard is a 2 or 3 and our local Golden demon painter is out of town right now at a competition so i cant ask him haha


i remember the gw standard brush from 10 years ago i used. its about the size of a 2. 3 seems huge to me and i cant fathom using a larger brush for troop size models. then again 3 might not be THAT much bigger still.... also lucky you that theres a good painter near you. i'm the best in my area and it sucks


2 might be the standard, 3 might be the large brush, ill probably just get a 2 and see how it goes from there.


trust me 2 is perfect for anything except tanks. i just used it to base coat my flamers of tzeentch and then do the transition from blue to purple. its just all purpose good size.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/686446/8569525.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/686446/8569525.page GMT Re:Citadel brush sizes to normal people and real world sizes
eosgreen wrote:
woah a 00 and 000 on the winsor and newton are TINY and frankly unuseable for most application and i mean 99.99 percent of what most people do. are you talking round brushes or some other kind. i cant fathom what 000 is compared to my 0.


I use 00 to edge highlight and do very fine lines (learning to at a least) and using 000 for things like teeth. For example, I used the 000 when painting a tooth on a pendant around the helmet of the Wrathmonger I'm painting right now.

Not sure what you mean by "unusable". I use them fine. I use dry retarder and thin my paints a good bit. Maybe I'm giving out bad advice, but it works me.

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/686446/8569730.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/686446/8569730.page GMT Re:Citadel brush sizes to normal people and real world sizes
the most useful and versatile brushes you would really want to get right off are the 2 and 1 - maybe even the 1, first, with a W&N. All others are really gravy, though if you can afford it, sure get them. I love to use the 00 and under for eyes and such. But my most used brush is the 2, for basecoating, first highlight followed by the 1.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/686446/8570281.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/686446/8570281.page GMT Citadel brush sizes to normal people and real world sizes GW 'standard' brush has changed many times over the years.

As for WN series 7 brushes... I do almost everything with a 1 (and occasionally a 2). The points are so sharp you can do eyes with them easily though I do typically switch to a 0 for eyes out of habit.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/686446/8570326.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/686446/8570326.page GMT Citadel brush sizes to normal people and real world sizes gws to common]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/686446/8570366.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/686446/8570366.page GMT Re:Citadel brush sizes to normal people and real world sizes
eosgreen wrote:
woah a 00 and 000 on the winsor and newton are TINY and frankly unuseable for most application and i mean 99.99 percent of what most people do. are you talking round brushes or some other kind. i cant fathom what 000 is compared to my 0

the 1 is what I use for super small detail work even eyes. the complex eye work does need a smaller brush but for example a space marine lens and a simplistic method its fine. even then going to a 0 is the lowest ive ever needed

2 is what i would equate to GW's standard size. ive painted tanks with the thing when some dog related mistakes happened to my larger brushes


Don't forget the W&N have a miniature series 7 range using the same numbering system.

As far as I know the normal series 7 00 is the same size as the citadel XS artificer brush. I really like this brush but do plan on getting an 0 as well.

I have a W&N series 7 minature 00 and its ridiculously tiny. The paint dries on the tip before you can get it too the model.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/686446/8570405.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/686446/8570405.page GMT Re:Citadel brush sizes to normal people and real world sizes
Mdlbuildr wrote:
eosgreen wrote:
woah a 00 and 000 on the winsor and newton are TINY and frankly unuseable for most application and i mean 99.99 percent of what most people do. are you talking round brushes or some other kind. i cant fathom what 000 is compared to my 0.


I use 00 to edge highlight and do very fine lines (learning to at a least) and using 000 for things like teeth. For example, I used the 000 when painting a tooth on a pendant around the helmet of the Wrathmonger I'm painting right now.

Not sure what you mean by "unusable". I use them fine. I use dry retarder and thin my paints a good bit. Maybe I'm giving out bad advice, but it works me.



I think he means that for the bulk of your paint work they're just not necessary. For fine detail work sure (although I can't say I've never needed 2/0 slash 00, whichever you prefer to call it).

A 1 will be fine for pretty much anything, a 0 for when it's not and a 2/0 in extremis.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/686446/8570454.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/686446/8570454.page GMT Re:Citadel brush sizes to normal people and real world sizes
 AEIOUMadden wrote:
eosgreen wrote:
woah a 00 and 000 on the winsor and newton are TINY and frankly unuseable for most application and i mean 99.99 percent of what most people do. are you talking round brushes or some other kind. i cant fathom what 000 is compared to my 0

the 1 is what I use for super small detail work even eyes. the complex eye work does need a smaller brush but for example a space marine lens and a simplistic method its fine. even then going to a 0 is the lowest ive ever needed

2 is what i would equate to GW's standard size. ive painted tanks with the thing when some dog related mistakes happened to my larger brushes


Don't forget the W&N have a miniature series 7 range using the same numbering system.

As far as I know the normal series 7 00 is the same size as the citadel XS artificer brush. I really like this brush but do plan on getting an 0 as well.

I have a W&N series 7 minature 00 and its ridiculously tiny. The paint dries on the tip before you can get it too the model.


AH YOU ARE RIGHT. i use series 7 thats why im saying this. ookokokok. damn ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/686446/8570671.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/686446/8570671.page GMT Re:Citadel brush sizes to normal people and real world sizes LOL I didn't know there was a Series 7 miniature set!

I use the regular Series 7. Sorry for the confusion. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/686446/8571892.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/686446/8571892.page GMT Re:Citadel brush sizes to normal people and real world sizes
Mdlbuildr wrote:
LOL I didn't know there was a Series 7 miniature set!

I use the regular Series 7. Sorry for the confusion.


I used to use them for edge-highlighting... their shape is ideal for it, however they don't hold paint like the standard round ones and it took an adjustment every time; now I just use the regular rounds for everything. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/686446/8571915.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/686446/8571915.page GMT