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				<description><![CDATA[ My <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(211);'>LGS</span> has a League running from now through October. The current points level is 750 and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(787);'>LoW</span> cannot exceed 33% of you points (so no WK in 750 thank goodness)<br /> However that leaves me in a pickle. My go-to anti-tank is a WK and a Crimson Hunter. So what can I field?<br /> <br /> The core of my List will be a Farseer Skyrunner and 3 units of Scatter bikes.<br /> The units I have available are:<br /> <br /> 1 unit of Fire Dragons (unfortunately too short ranged requires a transport)<br /> 1 unit of D-Scythe WraithGuard (as above, plus too expensive in such a small game)<br /> 2 units of Swooping Hawks (who can only use 1 grenade per phase now)<br /> 1 Fire Prism/ Falcon<br /> 1 Avatar<br /> <br /> So far the best option I own seems to be Dragons in a Falcon, which would leave points for say a VSG.<br /> Thoughts?]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(464);'>FD</span> in a falcon is a pretty decent choice.  Especially if you put a brightlance on the tank.  3 shots are long range, even before kicking the dragons out.  And once they hit the table anything that looks like armor should evaporate.<br /> <br /> The Prism is overall more flexible then a Falcon, but for pure <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(9);'>AV</span> tank, not quite as good.  Singe shot <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(9);'>AV</span> is just not what it was.<br /> <br /> The <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(225);'>WG</span> in a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(149);'>WS</span> is going to be tougher then the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(464);'>FD</span>/Falcon combo, but as you say, much more pricy.<br /> <br /> Hawks got hit hard by the grenade nerf.  Still should be OK vs. light troops, but I’d not take them for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(9);'>AV</span>.<br /> <br /> Melee is not a decent answer for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(9);'>AV</span>.  As cool as the Avatar is, you list is not set up to take advantage of his strengths.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 18 May 2016 13:15:38]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Nevelon]]></author>
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				<title>Re:[750] - Eldar - Local escalating League</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ How would you set up an Eldar list to play the Avatar effectively?<br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> How would you set up an Eldar list to play the Avatar effectively?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 18 May 2016 20:15:00]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:[750] - Eldar - Local escalating League</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/d1bbbdccf5b20b8fbbb69c24e1428daf.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/691285/8663753.page"><b>CynosureEldar wrote:</b></a><br/>How would you set up an Eldar list to play the Avatar effectively?<br /> </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> He’s got his buff bubble that turns everyone near him into a frothing combat monster.  At the very lest you want a few units that can take advantage of that.  Aspect host with some of the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>CC</span> guys, maybe the guardian stormhost if you want to go all in.<br /> <br /> But foot based, not bikes.  <br /> <br /> Full disclosure: My avatar hasn’t seen the table since 3rd edition, just I’m just shooting hypothetical here.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 18 May 2016 20:40:10]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Nevelon]]></author>
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				<title>Re:[750] - Eldar - Local escalating League</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Not to jack the post here, but maybe like the scorpions or banshees? Or Wraithblades?  or all three?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 18 May 2016 20:48:42]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ CynosureEldar]]></author>
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				<title>Re:[750] - Eldar - Local escalating League</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/d1bbbdccf5b20b8fbbb69c24e1428daf.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/691285/8663821.page"><b>CynosureEldar wrote:</b></a><br/>Not to jack the post here, but maybe like the scorpions or banshees? Or Wraithblades?  or all three?</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Pros and cons to all of them.  Depends a lot on your list structure.  But yes, those types of guys.<br /> <br /> Fearless, +1S and +1A on the charge goes a long way to making even “meh” units like banshees a lot better.<br /> <br /> Footdar is not going to be the most competitive way to run Eldar, but even the wacky fun eldar lists are still decent on the table.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 18 May 2016 21:03:08]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Nevelon]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I used my Avatar in the last codex to great effect without any of those units. Since everything is so fast in my list, the Avatar was like an anvil to their hammer. The only 2 reasons I stopped plying him was because I needed the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(787);'>LoW</span> slot for a WK and the Avatar lost his double shot melta ability.<br /> <br /> But yes, the conventional wisdom to make the most out of him is to have <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>CC</span> units nearby that he could boost.<br /> <br /> -------------------So here is the list I have decided on:<br /> 115--Farseer Skyrunner<br /> <br /> 108--4 Scatter bikes<br /> 81---3 Scatter bikes<br /> 81---3 Scatter bikes<br /> <br /> 120--5 Fire Dragons + Exarch<br /> 145--Falcon w/ Bright Lance & Holofields<br /> <br /> 100--Void Shield Generator w/ 3 shields<br /> --------------750 on the dot<br /> <br /> At such a small point level, it should be very hard for opponents to get through all the shields, buying me time to not need the Dragons until later. If my opponent gets close, the Dragons come out. The Farsser will be using Prescience and Guide on the Falcon & the 4x Scatterbikes<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 18 May 2016 21:06:19]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Galef]]></author>
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				<title>Re:[750] - Eldar - Local escalating League</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I'm painfully aware of the costs of footdar <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(84);'>lol</span>. I have been losing every week for the past year playing it against people who bring nothing but competitive stuff(with a few <i>rare</i> exceptions).<br /> <br /> <br /> On topic: I like the Dragons chilling in the falcon on the void shield. Is that going to be enough anti-tank though? A few rhinos could ruin your day.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 18 May 2016 21:29:39]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ CynosureEldar]]></author>
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				<title>Re:[750] - Eldar - Local escalating League</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/d1bbbdccf5b20b8fbbb69c24e1428daf.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/691285/8663902.page"><b>CynosureEldar wrote:</b></a><br/>I'm painfully aware of the costs of footdar <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(84);'>lol</span>. I have been losing every week for the past year playing it against people who bring nothing but competitive stuff(with a few <i>rare</i> exceptions).<br /> <br /> <br /> On topic: I like the Dragons chilling in the falcon on the void shield. Is that going to be enough anti-tank though? A few rhinos could ruin your day.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Sactbikes should deal with anything light (like rhinos)  The Falcon/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(464);'>FDs</span> are for the hard stuff.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 18 May 2016 21:38:39]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Nevelon]]></author>
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				<title>Re:[750] - Eldar - Local escalating League</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ How would this list do against long range blast weapons?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 18 May 2016 21:52:46]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ CynosureEldar]]></author>
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				<title>Re:[750] - Eldar - Local escalating League</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/d1bbbdccf5b20b8fbbb69c24e1428daf.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/691285/8663959.page"><b>CynosureEldar wrote:</b></a><br/>How would this list do against long range blast weapons?</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> It would do fine.<br /> <br /> The VSG helps a lot there.  He can hide in the void shields, and let them take the fire.  Even outside that, the bikes can jink away any hits that are going to cut through their armor.  Very few things are AP3 and ignore cover.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 18 May 2016 22:05:06]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:[750] - Eldar - Local escalating League</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I can't pick a hole in your list Galef, except the hard counters. Of course, see above for my W/L ratio.<br /> <br /> Good Luck!]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Thanks for the feedback!]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 19 May 2016 02:22:05]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Galef]]></author>
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				<title>Re:[750] - Eldar - Local escalating League- Support Platforms?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ So I've been playing around with ideas and changed the list to:<br /> -----------------<br />  115--Farseer Skyrunner <br /> <br />  108--4 Scatter bikes <br />  81---3 Scatter bikes <br />  81---3 Scatter bikes <br /> <br />  145--Falcon w/ Bright Lance & Holofields <br /> 55---D-cannon support platform<br /> 55---D-cannon support platform<br /> <br />  110--Void Shield Generator w/ 3 shields & 1 Barricade<br />  --------------750 on the dot <br /> <br /> So instead of the Dragons that might not even participate in the game, I swapped them for 2 D-cannons and a Barricade to hide them behind.<br /> This should provide decent shenanigans by at least turn 2 (of turn 1 if my opponent goes first and come closer)<br /> <br /> The big questions is: 2 units of 1, or 1 unit of 2?<br /> At such a small points game (and hidden by the VSG), having single platforms doesn't seem that risky and allows me to target multiple units. Thoughts?<br /> <br /> --<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 20 May 2016 14:22:32]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Galef]]></author>
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