mrhappyface wrote:
What genestealer deffrolla?

 Ir0njack wrote:
I'm not sure what the rules on a Deffrolla are but the rules for the rockgrinder so I've heard are:

●auto pass dangerous terrain test
●Rams add an extra D6 to S of the ram, if it causes a pen hit add 1 to the result of damage table
●When performing a tank shock, each enemy the vehicle travels over must take a initiative test before taking a morale check. If the init test is passed, the unit avoids the grinder, but failing they suffer D3 S10 Ap2 hit. If the enemy unit makes a death or glory attack on on the rockgrinder and fails to stop it, the unit suffers an additional D3 S10 AP2 hit.

So I'm going to say.. yes

 Ir0njack wrote:
I'm not sure what the rules on a Deffrolla are but the rules for the rockgrinder so I've heard are:

●auto pass dangerous terrain test
●Rams add an extra D6 to S of the ram, if it causes a pen hit add 1 to the result of damage table
●When performing a tank shock, each enemy the vehicle travels over must take a initiative test before taking a morale check. If the init test is passed, the unit avoids the grinder, but failing they suffer D3 S10 Ap2 hit. If the enemy unit makes a death or glory attack on on the rockgrinder and fails to stop it, the unit suffers an additional D3 S10 AP2 hit.

So I'm going to say.. yes

 Vankraken wrote:

 Ir0njack wrote:
I'm not sure what the rules on a Deffrolla are but the rules for the rockgrinder so I've heard are:

●auto pass dangerous terrain test
●Rams add an extra D6 to S of the ram, if it causes a pen hit add 1 to the result of damage table
●When performing a tank shock, each enemy the vehicle travels over must take a initiative test before taking a morale check. If the init test is passed, the unit avoids the grinder, but failing they suffer D3 S10 Ap2 hit. If the enemy unit makes a death or glory attack on on the rockgrinder and fails to stop it, the unit suffers an additional D3 S10 AP2 hit.

So I'm going to say.. yes

The sad part isn't that the Genestealer Cult has a better deffrolla but it's that who knows how long it will be before GW even bothers trying to update the Ork codex.

 ZebioLizard2 wrote:

 Vankraken wrote:

 Ir0njack wrote:
I'm not sure what the rules on a Deffrolla are but the rules for the rockgrinder so I've heard are:

●auto pass dangerous terrain test
●Rams add an extra D6 to S of the ram, if it causes a pen hit add 1 to the result of damage table
●When performing a tank shock, each enemy the vehicle travels over must take a initiative test before taking a morale check. If the init test is passed, the unit avoids the grinder, but failing they suffer D3 S10 Ap2 hit. If the enemy unit makes a death or glory attack on on the rockgrinder and fails to stop it, the unit suffers an additional D3 S10 AP2 hit.

So I'm going to say.. yes

The sad part isn't that the Genestealer Cult has a better deffrolla but it's that who knows how long it will be before GW even bothers trying to update the Ork codex.

To be fair, if they do a new edition you don't really wanna be on the forefront of it again do ya?

the_scotsman wrote:
Here's the rules: better than the Ork deffrolla, but not too much.

+D6 strength on ram (as it is AV12 on the front, that makes its strength 6+D6 vs the Battlewagon's I believe S9?)

Add +1 to vehicle damage table rolls on ram attacks

When you tank shock an enemy unit, they must take an init test. If they fail, they take D3 S10AP2 hits. If they death or glory, they take another D3 S10AP2 hits.

 koooaei wrote:

the_scotsman wrote:
Here's the rules: better than the Ork deffrolla, but not too much.

+D6 strength on ram (as it is AV12 on the front, that makes its strength 6+D6 vs the Battlewagon's I believe S9?)

Add +1 to vehicle damage table rolls on ram attacks

When you tank shock an enemy unit, they must take an init test. If they fail, they take D3 S10AP2 hits. If they death or glory, they take another D3 S10AP2 hits.

How much does it cost?

 Matt.Kingsley wrote:

 koooaei wrote:

the_scotsman wrote:
Here's the rules: better than the Ork deffrolla, but not too much.

+D6 strength on ram (as it is AV12 on the front, that makes its strength 6+D6 vs the Battlewagon's I believe S9?)

Add +1 to vehicle damage table rolls on ram attacks

When you tank shock an enemy unit, they must take an init test. If they fail, they take D3 S10AP2 hits. If they death or glory, they take another D3 S10AP2 hits.

How much does it cost?

It isn't an upgrade, and the points cost for the vehicle it's on hasn't been leaked yet to my knowledge.

However the Goliath Transport is 50pts, is 11/10/10 w/ 3 hp and is an Open-topped Transport (can transport 10 models) . It's armed with a Heavy Stubber and TL Autocannon base.
Goliath Rockcrusher is 11/10/10 w/ 3hp and is a Transport (can transport 6. Not OT or Assault Vehicle). It is armed with a Heavy Stubber, Drilldozer and Heavy Mining Laser (a Lascannon in all but name).

When we do get the points leaked... remember that the HML is probably +10pts over the TL Autocannon value-wise (using typical GW pricing) and that the vehicle is trading its usefulness as a Transport (as all units that can fit in it from the codex want to be locked in assault and only have pistols).