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<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "[1850] - KDK + CSM"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/14.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net [1850] - KDK + CSM KDK army,
alas i have found out KDK isn't quite competitive enough, and though i am in it for the games i would hate to get tabled 5 games in a row,
therefor i have made these 2 lists.
I will break down the thought behind them beneath the list
hoping to get some feedback from all you

List 1

2 X Chaos Lord [Axe of Khorne, Chaos Bike, Lightning Claw, Melta Bombs, Power Armour, Sigil of Corruption]

Chaos Cultists [7x Cultists]
••••Cultist Champion [Autopistol, Take a shotgun]
Chaos Cultists [7x Cultists, 7x Replace Autopistol with Autogun]
••••Cultist Champion [Autopistol]

Maulerfiend [2x Lasher Tendrils]
Soul Grinder [Phlegm Bombardment]

Gorepack
••••Chaos Bikers [Biker Champion, 4x Bikers, Icon of Wrath, 2x Meltagun]
••••Chaos Bikers [Biker Champion, 4x Bikers, Icon of Wrath, 2x Meltagun]
••••Flesh Hounds [5x Flesh Hounds]
••••Flesh Hounds [5x Flesh Hounds]

Cyclopia Cabal
••••Sorcerer [2x Additional Mastery Level, Bike, Force Sword, Power Armour, Spell familiar, Veterans of the Long War]
••••Sorcerer [2x Additional Mastery Level, Bike, Force Sword, Power Armour, Spell familiar, Veterans of the Long War]
••••Sorcerer [2x Additional Mastery Level, Bike, Force Sword, Power Armour, Spell familiar, Veterans of the Long War]
••••Sorcerer [2x Additional Mastery Level, Bike, Force Sword, Power Armour, Spell familiar, Veterans of the Long War]

So the idea is
Join Chaos lord and 2 sorcerers to a bike squad X 2
these will be my mini deathstars, i am a little in doubt in regards to the Psychic powers but i am guessing Telepathy and Biomancy on each squad.
So the tactic would be to use the hounds to grab obj. in middle play field, Cultist in home, i would use mauler and soulgrinder as defence while my 2 bike squads go in the offence...

Is this way off ??

List 2

Chaos Lord [Axe of Khorne, Chaos Bike, Lightning Claw, Melta Bombs, Power Armour]

Chaos Cultists [7x Cultists]
••••Cultist Champion [Autopistol, Take a shotgun]
Chaos Cultists [7x Cultists]
••••Cultist Champion [Autopistol, Take a shotgun]

Soul Grinder [Phlegm Bombardment]
Kytan Daemon Engine

Gorepack
••••Chaos Bikers [3x Bikers, 2x Meltagun]
••••••••Biker Champion [Bolt Pistol, Close Combat Weapon]
••••Chaos Bikers [3x Bikers, 2x Meltagun]
••••••••Biker Champion [Bolt Pistol, Close Combat Weapon]
••••Flesh Hounds [13x Flesh Hounds]

Cyclopia Cabal
••••Sorcerer [2x Additional Mastery Level, Bike, Force Sword, Power Armour, Spell familiar, Veterans of the Long War]
••••Sorcerer [2x Additional Mastery Level, Bike, Force Sword, Power Armour, Spell familiar, Veterans of the Long War]
••••Sorcerer [2x Additional Mastery Level, Bike, Force Sword, Power Armour, Spell familiar, Veterans of the Long War]

So the idea in this list is to put the whole cabal plus the lord in the flesh hound unit, this will be my deathstar thing, the powers for the psychers will be from telepathy + biomancy + Heretech
the deathstar will roam around wreaking havock, while the Kytan wil hold midfield with bikes and cultists and soulgrinder will hold homefield.

so what do you guys say ?
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/704448/8942733.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/704448/8942733.page GMT Re:[1850] - KDK + CSM KP and the units arent that resistant. Here is my list, which really looks like your. However, I find summoning a better way to avoid giving away KP and to control objectifs. Just like your, sorcerers and lord join flesh hounds or they can also split late game. Fateweaver chills in the air, summon and cast strenght D shot. Herald cast grimoire on flesh hounds, which gives them 3++ saves... With cursed earth or santuary you can easily keep them 2++ with fnp 4+ / eternel warrior ( thanks to endurance ). Moreover, you can also cast invisibility on them or on herald s squad just to protect the grimoire. Nurglings come from DS and claim obj. It really worked well in tournament. Good luck man

Tournament 1849

KDK 522

Lord junggernault Blood forged armor Sigil of corruption Axe of khorne Power fist 240

Cultists x8 58

Flesh hounds x14 224

Cyclopia Cabal 580

Sorcier Lvl 3 Vet Jet pack Power Axe 130

Sorcier Lvl 3 Vet Juggernaut Power Axe 150

Sorcier Lvl 3 Vet Juggernaut Power Axe 150

Sorcier Lvl 3 Vet Juggernaut Power Axe 150

Daemon CAD 747

Fateweaver 300

Herald Tzeentch Lvl 3 Grimoire disc 150

Pink horrors x11 99

Pink horrors x12 108

Nurglings x3 45

Nurglings x3 45

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/704448/8942750.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/704448/8942750.page GMT Re:[1850] - KDK + CSM

my only problem is, i have no bloodcrusher, no horrors no nurglings no fateweaver and no herald

well i like the gorepack cause it gives the bikes move through cover which tends to help me on the board

i am currently on my 16th set off dice cause i throw away when they fail me for the 3rd time in a row

i dont mind letting my dogs do a little dying for tying up, super shooters until some off my hardhitters get across the board, i need the BT for ekstra attacks or summoning.

what powers psychic powers would you bring in the 2 lists i put up ?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/704448/8942772.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/704448/8942772.page GMT Re:[1850] - KDK + CSM

p_hansen81 wrote:
nice list

my only problem is, i have no bloodcrusher, no horrors no nurglings no fateweaver and no herald

well i like the gorepack cause it gives the bikes move through cover which tends to help me on the board

i am currently on my 16th set off dice cause i throw away when they fail me for the 3rd time in a row

Telepathy and biomancy are a most, however you should consider fulmination. The number 5 allows you to move the unit 18'' and number 6 allows you to switch pysker s squad with another unit, which can be REALLY good when you want to charge something too far or leave a loooooonnnng fight

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/704448/8942779.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/704448/8942779.page GMT [1850] - KDK + CSM they made it no charge after soulswitch, but could still use it in a bind, soulswitch with kytan

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/704448/8942805.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/704448/8942805.page GMT Re:[1850] - KDK + CSM ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/704448/8942826.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/704448/8942826.page GMT [1850] - KDK + CSM AV 14 super heavy could be fun

if they field super heavy, use 1 of their weapons
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/704448/8942916.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/704448/8942916.page GMT Re:[1850] - KDK + CSM

alex0911 wrote:
Cyclopia Cabal 580

Sorcier Lvl 3 Vet Jet pack Power Axe 130

Sorcier Lvl 3 Vet Juggernaut Power Axe 150

Sorcier Lvl 3 Vet Juggernaut Power Axe 150

Sorcier Lvl 3 Vet Juggernaut Power Axe 150

Did you mean Chaos Bike, not Juggernaut?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/704448/8942928.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/704448/8942928.page GMT [1850] - KDK + CSM ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/704448/8942937.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/704448/8942937.page GMT Re:[1850] - KDK + CSM lol]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/704448/8943013.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/704448/8943013.page GMT Re:[1850] - KDK + CSM

alex0911 wrote:

Lord junggernault Blood forged armor Sigil of corruption Axe of khorne Power fist

I suggest switching axe of khorne for lightning claws for three reasons.

1. It's cheaper
2. Anything you'd need the ap 2 against you are probably using pf anyway.
3. Shred is super useful

I might be wrong but I'm putting a near exact list together and was wondering the thinking on your weapons.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/704448/8944429.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/704448/8944429.page GMT [1850] - KDK + CSM
If you want to comment on Alex army list, you can find it in another post, but in this thread can you please comment on my army list ?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/704448/8944448.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/704448/8944448.page GMT [1850] - KDK + CSM

p_hansen81 wrote:
Okay just to get the feedback for my list

If you want to comment on Alex army list, you can find it in another post, but in this thread can you please comment on my army list ?

My comment applies to you as well but involves you switching axe of khorne to pf. Was a general lord load out comment that applies to both of you, his text was just cleaner to quote. Thanks for getting a little butt hurt though xD, just makes me want to not comment again.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/704448/8944802.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/704448/8944802.page GMT [1850] - KDK + CSM but no worries. mine was also a general comment, if you look beyond your own post you can see you are not the only one commenting on a alexes list.
Well as i see it the one thing the army misses, are offensive AP2 mostly for centurions, defensive AP2 there is in abundance from mauler and Soulgrinder and Kytan ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/704448/8944848.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/704448/8944848.page GMT