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				<description><![CDATA[ Seen some ideas. Mashed them together into this list. Let me know your thoughts please. <br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(724);'>KDK</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(683);'>CAD</span><br /> <br /> Chaos lord, Axe of ruin<br /> Herald, locus of wrath<br /> <br /> 8 bloodletters<br /> 8 bloodletters<br /> <br /> 5 flesh hounds<br /> 5 flesh hounds<br /> 5 flesh hounds<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> allied detachment<br /> <br /> Kharn<br /> <br /> 30 cultists<br /> <br /> Heldrake<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> formation<br /> <br /> Cyclopean Cabal<br /> <br /> 5 sorcerers, all ML3, all <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(644);'>VotLW</span>, all <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(102);'>MoT</span>, all with sigils. <br /> <br /> The idea is the three units of hounds scout and then move. Then I go for soul switch. Kharn and the 5 sorcerers join the 30 cultists and the herald and lord. Big multi assaulting hatred deathstar. <br /> <br /> Can this be decent in tournament games?]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Lose the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(102);'>MoT</span> on the sorcerors otherwise you will have to roll on the Tzeentch disipline.<br /> Besides that it could work but what if you don't get soul swap? All your dangerous models are foot slogging, to be consistantly dangerous your lord, herald and sorcerors all need to be on juggs/bikes for the increased manouverability.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 24 Nov 2016 20:27:58]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ mrhappyface]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I didn't realise I had to roll on the tzeench table. That sucks. Though I did read somewhere that they wouldn't be able to be in the same unit as Kharn as he was <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(99);'>MoK</span>. So I'd likely be dropping the mark anyway. <br /> <br /> Do you really think I'll struggle to get the soul swap power with 15 attempts? But you're right, if I don't get it I'm screwed. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 24 Nov 2016 20:48:07]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I'm going to alter my previous statement, if you are soul swapping then your lord and herald perhaps don't need a bike/jug (it would still make them better) but your sorcerors definitely need bikes. Bikes mean your sorcerors can fly aeound the table and witchfire any enemies who try to escape your <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>cc</span> units. I would definitely recommend psychic shriek for your powers on your sorcerors after you soul swap.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 24 Nov 2016 20:57:53]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ mrhappyface]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I see what you're trying to do, but honestly I don't think it hits hard enough to justify that expensive cabal. I don't know... maybe it could work... but I'd rather just use a list with lots more flesh hounds, a D-thirster or two and just walk Kharn up with his cultists hoping the opponent is too preoccupied with the fast elements of the list to have time to whittle down Kharn's cultist unit]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 24 Nov 2016 21:31:07]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Snake Tortoise]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/bbe7b3dac42c8ed6ad2cc079abfbbc46.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/709172/9038797.page"><b>Snake Tortoise wrote:</b></a><br/>I see what you're trying to do, but honestly I don't think it hits hard enough to justify that expensive cabal. I don't know... maybe it could work... but I'd rather just use a list with lots more flesh hounds, a D-thirster or two and just walk Kharn up with his cultists hoping the opponent is too preoccupied with the fast elements of the list to have time to whittle down Kharn's cultist unit</div></blockquote><br /> The expensive cabal is one of the best parts of the list: the addition of 15WC helps control, or at least contest, the psychic phase with the ability to buff, debuff, control enemy units and blow away big units. If <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(280);'>OP</span> so wanted he could attempt to but out 5 psychic shrieks per turn with 3+ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(195);'>WC</span> per power, very nasty against big models or large low <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(82);'>Ld</span> units.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 24 Nov 2016 21:42:37]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ mrhappyface]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Maybe you're right. It's so different to anything I've played before]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 24 Nov 2016 21:56:33]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Snake Tortoise]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ A few years ago (think 2014) a guy went 10th with a bit different kind of list on <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(755);'>NOVA</span>.<br /> <br /> He had:<br /> <br /> Typhus (for Plaguezombies, which are better than normal cultists, but slower)<br /> Kharn<br /> 20 Plaguezombies<br /> 21 Plaguezombies<br /> 3 Chaosterminators with melta<br /> 2 Helldrakes with Baleflamer<br /> 2x2 Obliterators with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(100);'>MoN</span><br /> <br /> Allied Detachment<br /> Deamonprince with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(100);'>MoN</span><br /> Nurglings<br /> Soulgrinder<br /> <br /> So it's not the best List, but maybe you could build something out of it.<br /> <br /> Would change his allied Detachment and the terminators for your Cabal.<br /> <br /> Then put Typhus and Kharn each in a bunch of Zombies and let the cabal join Kharn or Typhus, which one you prefer.<br /> <br /> Would also change the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(724);'>KDK</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(683);'>CAD</span> to a gorepack, then you have lots of fast units that can let you switch with your star.<br /> <br /> Here my list, maybe it can help you:<br /> <br /> Chaos Space Marines: <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(683);'>CAD</span>- 780 Points<br /> Typhus<br /> Kharn<br /> 30 Plaguezombies<br /> 20 Plaguezombies<br /> Helldrake with Baleflamer<br /> <br /> Chaos Space Marines: Cyclopia Cabal (<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(327);'>BL</span>) - 675 Points<br /> 5x Warlock, ML3, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(644);'>VotlW</span>, Bike<br /> <br /> Khorne Daemonkin: Gorepack - 392 Points<br /> 3 Chaosbiker<br /> 3 Chaosbiker<br /> 5 Fleshhounds<br /> 5 Fleshhounds<br /> 5 Fleshhounds<br /> <br /> <br /> Points : 1847<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 24 Nov 2016 22:16:03]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Darksider]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I think you'd be better off going the Hound star route. <br /> <br /> +++ Cabal Star (Warhammer 40,000 7th Edition v2007) (1646pts) +++<br /> <br /> ++ Formation Detachment (Chaos Space Marines: Codex (2012) v2003) ++<br /> <br /> + Uncategorised +<br /> <br /> ········Force Options (Supplement options here) [Black Legion]<br /> <br /> + Formation +<br /> <br /> ········Cyclopia Cabal<br /> ············Sorcerer [2x Additional Mastery Level, Bike, 2x Close Combat Weapon, Power Armour, Spell familiar, Veterans of the Long War]<br /> ············Sorcerer [2x Additional Mastery Level, 2x Close Combat Weapon, Power Armour, Spell familiar, Veterans of the Long War]<br /> ············Sorcerer [2x Additional Mastery Level, 2x Close Combat Weapon, Power Armour, Spell familiar, Veterans of the Long War]<br /> ············Sorcerer [2x Additional Mastery Level, 2x Close Combat Weapon, Power Armour, Spell familiar, Veterans of the Long War]<br /> ············Sorcerer [2x Additional Mastery Level, 2x Close Combat Weapon, Power Armour, Spell familiar, Veterans of the Long War]<br /> <br /> ++ Combined Arms Detachment (Chaos Khorne Daemonkin v2000) ++<br /> <br /> + <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> +<br /> <br /> ········Herald [Exalted Locus of Wrath, Hellblade]<br /> <br /> + Troops +<br /> <br /> ········Chaos Cultists [7x Cultists]<br /> <br /> <br /> ········Chaos Cultists [7x Cultists]<br /> <br /> <br /> + Fast Attack +<br /> <br /> ········Flesh Hounds [5x Flesh Hounds]<br /> <br /> ········Flesh Hounds [5x Flesh Hounds]<br /> <br /> ········Flesh Hounds [15x Flesh Hounds]<br /> <br /> ++ Combined Arms Detachment (Chaos Space Marines: Codex (2012) v2003) ++<br /> <br /> + <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> +<br /> <br /> ········Kharn the Betrayer<br /> <br /> + Troops +<br /> <br /> ········Chaos Cultists<br /> <br /> + Fast Attack +<br /> <br /> ········Heldrake<br /> <br /> Created with BattleScribe (<a href="http://www.battlescribe.net" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.battlescribe.net</a>)<br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> Oh and plus Cypher. Hit and run and shrouded for the win. ]]></description>
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