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I'd just like to confirm based on the wording that the Ynnari unit chosen doesn't have to be infantry or bikers, so a Wraithknight, for instance, can be chosen for the Soulburst action. My reasoning for this is that only the Strength from Death special rule is limited to infantry and biker units, whereas the psychic power allows any unit with the Ynnari keyword to make a Soulburst.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/727646/9408362.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/727646/9408362.page GMT 8th Edition Ynnari Psychic Power- Word of the Phoenix http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/727646/9409227.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/727646/9409227.page GMT 8th Edition Ynnari Psychic Power- Word of the Phoenix FAQ or anything on this question?
Would love to know the definitive answer to this one]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/727646/9420081.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/727646/9420081.page GMT 8th Edition Ynnari Psychic Power- Word of the Phoenix
 Mayk0l wrote:
Any official rulings, FAQ or anything on this question?
Would love to know the definitive answer to this one

You're not going to receive an official answer for at least another week, until sometime after the game is released.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/727646/9420089.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/727646/9420089.page GMT 8th Edition Ynnari Psychic Power- Word of the Phoenix http://imgur.com/kZfCCm3

That is the official wording for the text of soulburst. It doesnt state a stipulation on what unit can soulburst but rather what units carry the strength from death trait. So from my understanding any unit can.

But in the faction focus they stated that they cannot do it on a wraithknight. https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/06/09/warhammer-40000-faction-focus-ynnari/ so its very confusing indeed. By the book it says ANY unit but community says otherwise. If worse comes to worse, rule shark it ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/727646/9422506.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/727646/9422506.page GMT 8th Edition Ynnari Psychic Power- Word of the Phoenix http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/727646/9423036.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/727646/9423036.page GMT 8th Edition Ynnari Psychic Power- Word of the Phoenix
Rules as written: it's allowed.
The psychic power has two conditions:
1. Select an Ynnari unit (WK)
2. Has it soulburst yet this turn (no).

Obviously it hasn't soulbursted yet because it can't, which is where I guess the RAI discussion comes in (it's not eligible because only units that possibly could Soulburst could be asked the question if they had soulbursted yet).

However, that is an interpretation.

From a rules writing point of view (also RAI of course) I wonder why they wouldn't just say 'select a unit with the SFD rule' instead of 'an Ynnari unit' if they didn't want the WK to soul burst.
But then, it's GW writing the rules.
Might be FAQ'd out.

Something inside of me hopes this psychic power is one of the reasons a naked WK is 80 points more expensive than an IK. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/727646/9423716.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/727646/9423716.page GMT 8th Edition Ynnari Psychic Power- Word of the Phoenix
 Mayk0l wrote:
What Oaka said, exactly that.

Rules as written: it's allowed.
The psychic power has two conditions:
1. Select an Ynnari unit (WK)
2. Has it soulburst yet this turn (no).

Obviously it hasn't soulbursted yet because it can't, which is where I guess the RAI discussion comes in (it's not eligible because only units that possibly could Soulburst could be asked the question if they had soulbursted yet).

However, that is an interpretation.

From a rules writing point of view (also RAI of course) I wonder why they wouldn't just say 'select a unit with the SFD rule' instead of 'an Ynnari unit' if they didn't want the WK to soul burst.
But then, it's GW writing the rules.
Might be FAQ'd out.

Something inside of me hopes this psychic power is one of the reasons a naked WK is 80 points more expensive than an IK
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This has me thinking, what are the best psykers for ynnari to give you optimal reroll chance to abuse word of the phoenix. It just made wraithknight a bit more appealing, especially if you can guarantee its cast every turn, 2 moves with a WK is just too good not to try and abuse atleast. we can still do jetbike spam as well as wave serpents, light them up from afar, move up with the WK and just go to town with sword and board and 2 star cannons, then soulburst to charge and then proceed to fight the next unit.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/727646/9424191.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/727646/9424191.page GMT 8th Edition Ynnari Psychic Power- Word of the Phoenix http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/727646/9424193.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/727646/9424193.page GMT 8th Edition Ynnari Psychic Power- Word of the Phoenix


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Still tweaking my list a bit but on paper seems to be great.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/727646/9424207.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/727646/9424207.page GMT 8th Edition Ynnari Psychic Power- Word of the Phoenix
On the psyker choice: Definitely Yvraine for me. She's got a casting bonus and unlike the Yncarne is on the table turn 1.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/727646/9424274.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/727646/9424274.page GMT 8th Edition Ynnari Psychic Power- Word of the Phoenix
The Yncarne (1) - 337pts
1 The Yncarne: Vilith-zhar, the Sword of Souls

Yvraine (1) - 132pts
1 Yvraine: Kha-vir, the Sword of Sorrows

Eldrad Ulthran (1) - 180pts
1 Eldrad Ulthran: Staff of Ultramar,Shuriken Pistol,Witchblade

Wraithguard (5) - 225pts
5 Wraithguard: Wraithguard fists,D-scythe

Wave Serpent (1) - 153pts
1 Wave Serpent: Shuriken cannon,Twin shuriken cannon,Vectored engines

Wraithblades (5) - 175pts
5 Wraithblade: Ghostswords

Wave Serpent (1) - 153pts
1 Wave Serpent: Shuriken cannon,Twin shuriken cannon,Vectored engines

Kabalite Warriors (5) - 42pts
1 Sybarite: Splinter rifle,Agoniser,Phantasm grenade launcher
4 Kabalite Warrior: Splinter rifle

Venom (1) - 95pts
1 Venom: 2 Splinter cannons,Bladevanes

Kabalite Warriors (5) - 42pts
1 Sybarite: Splinter rifle,Agoniser,Phantasm grenade launcher
4 Kabalite Warrior: Splinter rifle

Venom (1) - 95pts
1 Venom: 2 Splinter cannons,Bladevanes

Guardian Defenders (10) - 80pts
10 Guardian: Shuriken catapult,Sunburst grenades

Wave Serpent (1) - 153pts
1 Wave Serpent: Shuriken cannon,Twin shuriken cannon,Vectored engines

Shining Spears (3) - 132pts
1 Shining Spear Exarch: Paragon blade,Twin shuriken catapult
2 Shining Spear: Laser lance,Twin shuriken catapult

Still looking for a solid replacement for Shining Spears and Storm Guardians, or even Kalibite Warriors. The Guard with Scythes and serpents are doing well for me in testing. Still not sure if i should try to fit a group of Dark Banshees or even Harlequins.
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