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Nowhere in that rule is ranged weapons or shooting phase mentioned.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/728494/9425185.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/728494/9425185.page GMT Kind of awesome RAW rule for Eldar Rangers
 ArmyC wrote:
Cameleoline Cloaks on Rangers - "Your opponent must subtract 1 from their hit rolls that target this unit. In addition, add 2 to saving throws made for models from this unit that are in cover, instead of one."

Nowhere in that rule is ranged weapons or shooting phase mentioned.


True, but you don't "Target" units in the assault phase. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/728494/9425194.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/728494/9425194.page GMT Kind of awesome RAW rule for Eldar Rangers
you dont take cover saves in assault cant cower behind that rock filthy xeno ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/728494/9425197.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/728494/9425197.page GMT Kind of awesome RAW rule for Eldar Rangers
 Desubot wrote:
-1 to hit Im sure works.

you dont take cover saves in assault cant cower behind that rock filthy xeno


Yeah, you have to be able to get the +1 to get the +2.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/728494/9425209.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/728494/9425209.page GMT Kind of awesome RAW rule for Eldar Rangers http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/728494/9425274.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/728494/9425274.page GMT Kind of awesome RAW rule for Eldar Rangers
SemperMortis wrote:
 ArmyC wrote:
Cameleoline Cloaks on Rangers - "Your opponent must subtract 1 from their hit rolls that target this unit. In addition, add 2 to saving throws made for models from this unit that are in cover, instead of one."

Nowhere in that rule is ranged weapons or shooting phase mentioned.


True, but you don't "Target" units in the assault phase.

The fight phase has a section about choosing targets though.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/728494/9425276.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/728494/9425276.page GMT Kind of awesome RAW rule for Eldar Rangers
 Desubot wrote:
-1 to hit Im sure works.

you dont take cover saves in assault


you dont take cover saves at all anymore.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/728494/9425291.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/728494/9425291.page GMT Kind of awesome RAW rule for Eldar Rangers
 davou wrote:
 Desubot wrote:
-1 to hit Im sure works.

you dont take cover saves in assault


you dont take cover saves at all anymore.


Damnit iv been dooped.

but yeah im pretty sure you dont benefit from "cover" in assault. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/728494/9425294.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/728494/9425294.page GMT Kind of awesome RAW rule for Eldar Rangers http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/728494/9425342.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/728494/9425342.page GMT Kind of awesome RAW rule for Eldar Rangers
 ArmyC wrote:
Cameleoline Cloaks on Rangers - "Your opponent must subtract 1 from their hit rolls that target this unit. In addition, add 2 to saving throws made for models from this unit that are in cover, instead of one."



However this does mean that Supercharged Plasma weapons will explode units on natural rolls of 1 and 2, which is even more hilarious in my mind.

For reference the supercharge rule is "On a hit roll of 1, the bearer is slain after all of this weapon's shots have been resolved"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/728494/9425484.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/728494/9425484.page GMT Kind of awesome RAW rule for Eldar Rangers
unbaraki wrote:
 ArmyC wrote:
Cameleoline Cloaks on Rangers - "Your opponent must subtract 1 from their hit rolls that target this unit. In addition, add 2 to saving throws made for models from this unit that are in cover, instead of one."



However this does mean that Supercharged Plasma weapons will explode units on natural rolls of 1 and 2, which is even more hilarious in my mind.

For reference the supercharge rule is "On a hit roll of 1, the bearer is slain after all of this weapon's shots have been resolved"


I believe there was some conflicting things from Reese where he both confirmed AND denied modifiers of this nature

personally dont care which way it goes. but i do find it funny thinking about a marine taking careful aim at a glimmering cloak only to accidentally shoot his friend infront of him in the back of the head.

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/728494/9425488.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/728494/9425488.page GMT Kind of awesome RAW rule for Eldar Rangers FAQs before laughing too hard ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/728494/9425494.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/728494/9425494.page GMT Kind of awesome RAW rule for Eldar Rangers
 ArmyC wrote:
Cameleoline Cloaks on Rangers - "Your opponent must subtract 1 from their hit rolls that target this unit. In addition, add 2 to saving throws made for models from this unit that are in cover, instead of one."

Nowhere in that rule is ranged weapons or shooting phase mentioned.


Confused. Is this thought to not be intentional? Targeting is very definitely in the "Fight" phase; Step 3 to be exact.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/728494/9425553.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/728494/9425553.page GMT Kind of awesome RAW rule for Eldar Rangers
bored1 wrote:
 ArmyC wrote:
Cameleoline Cloaks on Rangers - "Your opponent must subtract 1 from their hit rolls that target this unit. In addition, add 2 to saving throws made for models from this unit that are in cover, instead of one."

Nowhere in that rule is ranged weapons or shooting phase mentioned.


Confused. Is this thought to not be intentional? Targeting is very definitely in the "Fight" phase; Step 3 to be exact.


Doesn't it say target in the charge phase? Or in the fight phase as well?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/728494/9425747.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/728494/9425747.page GMT Kind of awesome RAW rule for Eldar Rangers http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/728494/9425787.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/728494/9425787.page GMT Kind of awesome RAW rule for Eldar Rangers
In a crowded brawl with over a dozen people...

If one side is using trench coats that make them go invisible. I could see it being more difficult to hit them.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/728494/9425890.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/728494/9425890.page GMT Kind of awesome RAW rule for Eldar Rangers
unbaraki wrote:
 ArmyC wrote:
Cameleoline Cloaks on Rangers - "Your opponent must subtract 1 from their hit rolls that target this unit. In addition, add 2 to saving throws made for models from this unit that are in cover, instead of one."



However this does mean that Supercharged Plasma weapons will explode units on natural rolls of 1 and 2, which is even more hilarious in my mind.

For reference the supercharge rule is "On a hit roll of 1, the bearer is slain after all of this weapon's shots have been resolved"


Does it state to a minimum of 1? Otherwise, wouldn't a 1 be a 0, which isn't covered by the misfire rule, and misfire would only be on a roll of 2 being brought down to a 1?
Otherwise, are we also assuming that "may reroll 1s" will make us able to reroll both 1s and 2s against this unit?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/728494/9425904.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/728494/9425904.page GMT Kind of awesome RAW rule for Eldar Rangers http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/728494/9425905.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/728494/9425905.page GMT Re:Kind of awesome RAW rule for Eldar Rangers GW did some extensive play testing with a number of third party input for the new edition... so every seeming oversight like this is obviously intentional
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 Pr3Mu5 wrote:
Don't worry guys GW did some extensive play testing with a number of third party input for the new edition... so every seeming oversight like this is obviously intentional


I like slagging on GW as much as the next guy, but if you think any system is immune to oversights like this in their first draft, you're naive in the extreme. The biggest mistake GW has been doing is their constant reshuffling in editions instead of putting out one solid system and then tuning that. Hopefully that's what is happening here.

We're happy that they started doing some playtesting, but let's be completely honest; it hasn't been nearly enough. Playtesting should be done by hundreds if not thousands of people. Not the 5 biggest TOs or whatever it was they got a hold of here. The playtesting was far from perfect, but it was a solid step in the right direction, and these snide comments are getting so ridiculously old when they're spammed in every single thread like it's something fresh and funny. Let's all recognise that it's moving in the right direction and save the constant whining for when they decide to do a 180 and go back to the old system of literally picking rules out of vomit bags.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/728494/9425946.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/728494/9425946.page GMT Kind of awesome RAW rule for Eldar Rangers
Whats the problem with that?

 Pr3Mu5 wrote:
Don't worry guys GW did some extensive play testing with a number of third party input for the new edition... so every seeming oversight like this is obviously intentional


Why you are making it look like an error?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/728494/9425970.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/728494/9425970.page GMT Re:Kind of awesome RAW rule for Eldar Rangers
 Pr3Mu5 wrote:
Don't worry guys GW did some extensive play testing with a number of third party input for the new edition... so every seeming oversight like this is obviously intentional


You just exploded my sarcasm detector, you owe me a new one.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/728494/9425979.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/728494/9425979.page GMT Kind of awesome RAW rule for Eldar Rangers http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/728494/9426294.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/728494/9426294.page GMT