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				<description><![CDATA[ I'm working on building the entire 5th company at the moment with Balthasar (from <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(437);'>DV</span>) as the company master and he needs his lieutenants. So far I've got this old <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(25);'>DA</span> captain, sans cloaked backpack, freshly repainted and based but I need the 2nd lieutenant spot filled<br /> <br /> not my model<br /> <img src="http://www.lounge.belloflostsouls.net/photopost/data/503/535fbb613126fd0873098e5d96c936c2_6.jpg" border="0" /><br /> <br /> i was thinking of using this old skool <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(25);'>DA</span> vet sgt and adding in a winged helm from the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(25);'>DA</span> upgrade sprue under his arm<br /> <br /> <img src="https://azazelx.files.wordpress.com/2017/08/dscn1267.jpg" border="0" /><br /> <br /> anyone got any thoughts or better ideas??? i wanna keep away from robes and hoods because i dont want it to look like one lieutenant outranks the other, that they are of the same level. <br /> <br /> also looking for advice on how to model the arm to hold the winged helm]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ The dark Angels upgrade pack has a unique sword and chest piece and a similar head piece.<br /> <br /> <a href="https://www.games-workshop.com/en-AU/Dark-Angels-Upgrades" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://www.games-workshop.com/en-AU/Dark-Angels-Upgrades</a>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 27 Aug 2018 12:56:24]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/e0a68aefaad010cb07125addaf615f58.jpeg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/762833/10127565.page"><b>Mk X wrote:</b></a><br/>The dark Angels upgrade pack has a unique sword and chest piece and a similar head piece.<br /> <br /> <a href="https://www.games-workshop.com/en-AU/Dark-Angels-Upgrades" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://www.games-workshop.com/en-AU/Dark-Angels-Upgrades</a></div></blockquote><br /> <br /> yeah i'm gonna be picking that kit up for the winged helm and chapter shoulder pads. might use that sword too, thanks]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 27 Aug 2018 13:02:38]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I don't know if Lieutenants need a winged helm to be honest- I thought only Masters got those. I could be wrong, and I do think the model would look very cool with it arm though. For modelling it, you'd probably have to do some cutting and gap filling to repose a standard Marine left arm (that normally grips a weapon).]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 27 Aug 2018 15:51:12]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:Thoughts on This Dark Angels Lieutenant</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/2eedc736a0ecad1479d42c57da211c77.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/762833/10127856.page"><b>ZergSmasher wrote:</b></a><br/>I don't know if Lieutenants need a winged helm to be honest- I thought only Masters got those. I could be wrong, and I do think the model would look very cool with it arm though. For modelling it, you'd probably have to do some cutting and gap filling to repose a standard Marine left arm (that normally grips a weapon).</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> not too worried about winged helms fluff wise, its just the way i've decided to go. one lieutenant has one therefore so should the other.<br /> <br /> regarding the arm, are you suggesting using the left arm that holds the bolter as the base to modify???]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 27 Aug 2018 16:22:56]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ He looks somewhat too important to be a lieutenant to me. Remember, the Lieutenant is the lowest commissioned officer, so I'd imagine he'd be identified by insignia of some form, plus whatever specialist heat you were going to give him.<br /> <br /> If I remember aright, wasn't that model a captain back in the day?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 27 Aug 2018 16:59:02]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/213951ccd0f17910ef5c985f53fd6baa.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/762833/10127986.page"><b>ThunderCracker wrote:</b></a><br/>He looks somewhat too important to be a lieutenant to me. Remember, the Lieutenant is the lowest commissioned officer, so I'd imagine he'd be identified by insignia of some form, plus whatever specialist heat you were going to give him.<br /> <br /> If I remember aright, wasn't that model a captain back in the day?</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> yeah he was a captain back in the day but when stood beside Balthasar he looks somewhat demoted so I've decided to go with him as a lieutenant. this is why i need a comparable looking model to serve as the 2nd lieutenant. a model that looks the part but doesnt stand out more than the old captain model so no robes]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 27 Aug 2018 18:28:20]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/762833/10128093.page"><b>gaza4 wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/213951ccd0f17910ef5c985f53fd6baa.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/762833/10127986.page"><b>ThunderCracker wrote:</b></a><br/>He looks somewhat too important to be a lieutenant to me. Remember, the Lieutenant is the lowest commissioned officer, so I'd imagine he'd be identified by insignia of some form, plus whatever specialist heat you were going to give him.<br /> <br /> If I remember aright, wasn't that model a captain back in the day?</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> yeah he was a captain back in the day but when stood beside Balthasar he looks somewhat demoted so I've decided to go with him as a lieutenant. this is why i need a comparable looking model to serve as the 2nd lieutenant. a model that looks the part but doesnt stand out more than the old captain model so no robes</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> I see. Have you considered chopping off the bare headed lieutenants head and glueing another feathered helm in its place? Could work?<br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> Just had a brainwave- how about simplifying things and adding the winged helm on his belt? That would make sense, since it'd keep both arms free.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 27 Aug 2018 19:42:18]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/213951ccd0f17910ef5c985f53fd6baa.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/762833/10128223.page"><b>ThunderCracker wrote:</b></a><br/><br /> I see. Have you considered chopping off the bare headed lieutenants head and glueing another feathered helm in its place? Could work?<br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> Just had a brainwave- how about simplifying things and adding the winged helm on his belt? That would make sense, since it'd keep both arms free.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> replacing the head is certainly an option but i think i wanna challenge myself to do some modeling. <br /> <br /> i considered adding to the belt after seeing a lot of the primaris sgts but i feel the wings would stick out pretty awkwardly]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 27 Aug 2018 21:03:19]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Both good minis, do what you want.  I'm not a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(25);'>DA</span> fluff guy so I can't comment on the feather/non-feather continuum though.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ How about another marine holding the helm for him?]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ What like azrael and his helm bearer?]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ That Vet Serg looks Lieutenant-y enough as is, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(325);'>tbh</span>. ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/ccb163d20b94adf3f5091d3c086f18b0.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/762833/10128888.page"><b>Rybrook wrote:</b></a><br/>What like azrael and his helm bearer?</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Just so. Like a squire.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <span style="font-size: 12px; line-height: normal;"> </span>I would go with what you got. The wings on the helm will stick out to far. He is a solid fig. In the original fluff a lieutenant would have a gold symbol above his eyes shaped kind of like a elongated bow tie on his helmet. That way you don't need wings. Don't know <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(25);'>DA</span> fluff since I play Space Wolves  and Orks. Good luck. ]]></description>
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