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				<description><![CDATA[ Hey guys.<br /> <br /> I got my hands on a Mek Gun for orks, and i have a few questions.<br /> <br /> First of all, the datasheet coming with the package shows different stats than the datasheets shown on wahapedia. Wahapedia shows the mek gun having 6 wounds, where as the datasheet coming with the package shows the Mek gunz having 2 wounds.<br /> <br /> Wahapedia also shows the mek gunz with melee and such skills, where as the datasheet coming with the package shows the grots as having a different datasheet that can then do melee.<br /> <br /> Im guessing the wahapedia page has incorperated it all in to one unit where as the datasheet with the package just.. shows them as two seperate even though they are not?<br /> <br /> <br /> Anyway!<br /> <br /> How many Grots accompanies 1 Mek Gun? there are enough bases to make 5 grots, yet the package datasheet says a Mek Gun comes with 2 grots. Can i bring 5 grots total for no additional cost? Or how does that work? Wahapedia says they are accompanied by 6 grot krews but there are only 5 bases in the package. <br /> <br /> <br /> Also is the bubblechukka really bad after the blast rule was announced?<br /> <br /> And lastly, which of the Mek Gunz types works best? <br /> <br /> thanks buddies, these Mek gunz confuse me.<br /> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ 6 grot. One in hardwired to gun. For proper stats check codex]]></description>
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				<title>Re:So i bought a Mek Gun and i have questions</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Your sources for reliability with any unit's rules should be as follows:<br /> <br /> Latest Codex and any <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(36);'>FAQs</span>  &gt;  the datasheet that comes in the box  &gt;  any third party source, whatsoever.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ 8E codex (in front of me) has Mek Gunz as W6, and 6 got crew (1 manning the weapon and 5 standing alongside). Crew are superfluous, have no rules, and can't be targeted, so it doesn't really matter.<br /> <br /> Your datasheet is probably an earlier edition.<br /> <br /> Wahapedia and Battlescribe are both good. Not 100% accurate, but close.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Its been covered, however, to address your other point; Bubblechuckas still kind of suck.<br /> <br /> The best Mek Gun is Smasha gunz followed by <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(684);'>KMK</span>/Traktor, and neither is close to being as good as the Smasha gun is.  It averages 1 hit a turn and against Elite infantry almost always wounds, and with -4 and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(24);'>D6</span> damage its actually really good at popping vehicles and elite infantry.  <br /> <br /> The <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(684);'>KMK</span> has much higher damage potential but you are likely going to lose wounds rolling 1s to hit as well as the fact that 1/3rd more expensive than the Smasha gun and only averages 1.75 hits a turn compared to the smasha's 1. <br /> <br /> An argument could be made for the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(684);'>KMK</span> with the new blast rolls (Minimum 3 shots against 6-10 models) but the problem is, their primary targets usually run in groups of 3-5, rarely will you see a player grab the 6th model for a gravis squad.  team that with the fact that Mek gunz die relatively easily, and I would suggest you stick with Smasha gunz. less points investment.<br /> <br /> Also, last note for Mek gunz.  If you go buy a Trukk model you can actually mash the two together to make 3 Mek Gunz out of the 2 kits, this will save you a lot of money since Mek gunz are like $50 and trukkz were like $40. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 11 Oct 2020 19:05:26]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Thanks for all your replies. <br /> <br /> Does it really matter if i have 6 grot krews if the models dont die unless the entire model loses its 6 wounds? ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792861/10952790.page"><b>Beardedragon wrote:</b></a><br/>Thanks for all your replies. <br /> <br /> Does it really matter if i have 6 grot krews if the models dont die unless the entire model loses its 6 wounds? </div></blockquote>Yes, because enemies can draw <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(85);'>LOS</span> <i>to</i> the grot crew, but you can only draw <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(85);'>LOS</span> <i>from</i> the Mek Gun.]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ BaconCatBug]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/a13d02981142600834984afee274cb69.png" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792861/10952816.page"><b>BaconCatBug wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792861/10952790.page"><b>Beardedragon wrote:</b></a><br/>Thanks for all your replies. <br /> <br /> Does it really matter if i have 6 grot krews if the models dont die unless the entire model loses its 6 wounds? </div></blockquote>Yes, because enemies can draw <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(85);'>LOS</span> <i>to</i> the grot crew, but you can only draw <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(85);'>LOS</span> <i>from</i> the Mek Gun.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> player's choice honestly.  If you are playing a friendly game...no.  if you are playing in a tournament...yes.  if you don't bring the grots technically its "Modeling for advantage" and is not allowed.  Personally I don't care but some tournament players/refs do. <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 11 Oct 2020 19:51:48]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ SemperMortis]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792861/10952840.page"><b>SemperMortis wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/a13d02981142600834984afee274cb69.png" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792861/10952816.page"><b>BaconCatBug wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792861/10952790.page"><b>Beardedragon wrote:</b></a><br/>Thanks for all your replies. <br /> <br /> Does it really matter if i have 6 grot krews if the models dont die unless the entire model loses its 6 wounds? </div></blockquote>Yes, because enemies can draw <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(85);'>LOS</span> <i>to</i> the grot crew, but you can only draw <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(85);'>LOS</span> <i>from</i> the Mek Gun.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> player's choice honestly.  If you are playing a friendly game...no.  if you are playing in a tournament...yes.  if you don't bring the grots technically its "Modeling for advantage" and is not allowed.  Personally I don't care but some tournament players/refs do. <br /> </div></blockquote>Sorry but that's like saying "My Bolt Rifles are <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(6);'>AP</span>-6 and Damage 8. If you are playing a friendly game...yes.  if you are playing in a tournament...no." Friendly games aren't <i>carte blanche</i> to ignore the rules. You're free to house rule but that is all they are, house rules.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Thanks for your replies guys]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="uncited"><div>Your datasheet is probably an earlier edition.</div></blockquote><br /> This is quite likely, but also fair warning, the new 'condensed' datasheets in the boxes are intentionally incomplete.  They give statlines, but no longer provide any rules text.<br /> <br /> Beyond a general guide to the strength and range of weapons and unit stats, they're no longer of any real use.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Are you all sure about the Grot line-of-sight? The rule says "cannot be <i>targeted</i> or attacked separately." Maybe we've been doing it wrong all this time, but targeted to us suggests can't be used for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(85);'>LoS</span>. They make good wound counters though.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792861/10953477.page"><b>KillerAngel wrote:</b></a><br/>Are you all sure about the Grot line-of-sight? The rule says "cannot be <i>targeted</i> or attacked separately." Maybe we've been doing it wrong all this time, but targeted to us suggests can't be used for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(85);'>LoS</span>. They make good wound counters though.</div></blockquote>No, that means you can't kill the grots on their own, you can only deal damage to the gun.<br /> <br /> No, we haven't "been doing it wrong" all the time, we've been following the rules.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/a13d02981142600834984afee274cb69.png" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792861/10953916.page"><b>BaconCatBug wrote:</b></a><br/><br /> No, we haven't "been doing it wrong" all the time, we've been following the rules.</div></blockquote><br /> <i>We</i>, as in our group. As opposed to you, I'm sure you're just great at following the rules, which is why I asked.]]></description>
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