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Well I have reached that point where I need to put some grass and snow and different terrain effects on my bases. I purchased some flock and iron ore from the local hobby shop for about 4.50 a bag. Pretty cheap price. I was against purchasing the Citadel stuff as it was to expensive in my thoughts. Anyway, shortly after arriving home I began placing the terrain on my bases. I used elmers glue and spread it out nice and thin over the bases, then dunked the figures with the bases into the flock or Iron Ore. Well, I was not happy with the result I received from the flock, it doesnt seem to stand up or anything like that. It just looks like green "stuff" on my bases. I then read that the grass citadel sells is "Static Grass". :Update: I just went to lunch and stopped off at the local hobby shop and asked the owner about static grass. He was well aware of it and said that he was going to order me some. It costs 9 bucks for a jar as big as the ones they sell at smart and final with the black pepper or different spices inside. The only thing is that I would have to buy two of them (which is no big deal) and mix the colors to get something similar to the static grass Citadel makes. The brand that he ordered is Woodland scenic, and it is made for railroad enthusiasts. Any help from anyone would much be appreciated, also if you can post pictures of how your models turned out (40k models please). And what experiences you have had with different brands and if you think static grass is all the same or should I avoid the woodland scenic brand or what. Any and all info will be much appreciated.

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/350389/2504270.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/350389/2504270.page GMT !!! Basing !!! http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/350389/2504280.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/350389/2504280.page GMT !!! Basing !!! 40K Basing Kit (Resin Detailing, Slate and Etched Brass) and Army Painter Sand. In future, I'm planning on using Resin Bases.

From what I've seen and heard, Army Painter's Basing Grass is good stuff. It comes in little clumps which you can pick up with tweezers and plop on the base.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/350389/2504298.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/350389/2504298.page GMT !!! Basing !!!
I apply it in the following way:

1) Apply the other basing materials, allow to dry, paint and otherwise finish the base.

2) Dot on some neat PVA where I want the grass to be applied.

3) Place the model on some clean paper and using some tweezers, fluff up a pinch of static grass and then place it on top of the glue. Lightly press the grass down into the glue.

4) Shake off the excess grass onto the paper.

5) Turn the model upside down and gently blow on the grass to help it stick up.

6) Leave glue to dry.

7) Repeat until everything is based with grass.

8) fold paper in half and shake collected grass back into tub.




You can also mix it into various "mud" mixtures (generally PVA, paint/pigment, fine sawdust/dust, maybe liquid nails or similar) to make it look like churned up ground.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/350389/2504320.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/350389/2504320.page GMT !!! Basing !!!

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Oh and also, can you post a pic of one of your models. Thats if its not to hard or time consuming on your part. I dont want to be a burden. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/350389/2504545.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/350389/2504545.page GMT !!! Basing !!! like this (though you can do it far more cheaply using PVA, paint of an appropriate colour, and fine saw dust for the texture - there is a good mixture in this thread), then sprinkle in some static grass to make it look more like chewed up grassy turf.

You can then press fresh static grass on top of the mixture.

I'm sure I had a tutorial for this bookmarked, but I can't find it.

Edit: Most of my models can be seen in my gallery, or in the thread linked to in my signature.

However, my DP has some clearly visible static grass on the base:

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SilverMK2 wrote:I mean you create a mud mixture like this (though you can do it far more cheaply using PVA,


Also PVA will NOT chip like plaster does so easily. You can use Excalibre or another mix by weight material but PVA gives the same result with less work and no scale needed.

Personally I don't blow on the models having blown grass\parts\everything else all over my work area many times. I just put the model in my hand, flip it upside down, put my finger on it's head, and give it a very firm snap of the wrist to stand the grass up. (Put your finger on the models head unless you want to embed pewter mini's in your drywall after the basing glue lets go at mach 1)]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/350389/2504681.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/350389/2504681.page GMT !!! Basing !!! btw. Those bases are very nicely done. I specially like the mushroom effect you have going on. Now when we are talking about PVA glue, its safe to say that elmers white glue is PVA right? Also silvermk2 i can see that your base terrain is slightly elevated, is that due to you putting multiple layers on or what? Or am I just slowed and think im seeing that. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/350389/2505140.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/350389/2505140.page GMT !!! Basing !!! WS offers, check out Gale Force 9. They offer the same product, just in smaller containers. Price should be in the $4 range, but you get a manageable amount of flock. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/350389/2505208.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/350389/2505208.page GMT !!! Basing !!!
Brigand wrote:Ok Ok I get it now, btw. Those bases are very nicely done. I specially like the mushroom effect you have going on. Now when we are talking about PVA glue, its safe to say that elmers white glue is PVA right? Also silvermk2 i can see that your base terrain is slightly elevated, is that due to you putting multiple layers on or what? Or am I just slowed and think im seeing that.


I believe Elmers is PVA, but I am not sure as I don't think Elmers is sold in the UK.

The base has some putty on top which has raised and shaped the base. I would not recommend layering basing material to make mounds, as that would be really expensive and take forever ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/350389/2505794.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/350389/2505794.page GMT !!! Basing !!!
1. Buy a cheap art brush from a $1 shop.
2. Hold a few of the thick hairs with tweezers and snip them off to desired length.
3. Small dob of PVA
4. Stick brush hairs in PVA .. allow to dry.
5. Place a small amount of brown ink at base of reeds once dry.

Example below .. before ink stage.



Just a little something extra.

Rock on
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My Avatar uses field grass from either GF9, or Woodland Scenics.


]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/350389/2506119.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/350389/2506119.page GMT !!! Basing !!! I saw this vid on youtube a while back:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36DdSzX1fvU

You definitely get a lot more bang for your buck by buying the loose static grass however.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/350389/2506339.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/350389/2506339.page GMT !!! Basing !!!
SilverMK2 wrote:

The base has some putty on top which has raised and shaped the base. I would not recommend layering basing material to make mounds, as that would be really expensive and take forever


Cork sheet works too for building up and layers great for mounds. Plastruct sells a few different thicknesses. Roughed up it looks just like the large basing rocks sold by many companies or just flock right over it. Railroaders have used it for years and no dry time like white putty.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/350389/2506398.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/350389/2506398.page GMT !!! Basing !!! http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/350389/2506817.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/350389/2506817.page GMT Re:!!! Basing !!! http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/339312.page

I found this tutorial amazingly helpful. Thats how I base all my guys now. This helped me, so it might help you too.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/350389/2507994.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/350389/2507994.page GMT !!! Basing !!! http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/350389/2508038.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/350389/2508038.page GMT !!! Basing !!!
Finish basing your model with rocks, sand etc...
Paint on blobs of Elmer's Glue in the areas you want the static grass to be.
Dunk the base in a small container of static grass (I use the lid of the Woodland Scenics shakers)
Turn the model upside down and tap gently on the bottom of the base. This knocks off any excess and also makes the grass stand up. If need be, blow gently on the grass from the side to help it out.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/350389/2508358.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/350389/2508358.page GMT !!! Basing !!! SM are not painted as of yet. I'm still open for new tips and tricks if anyones got them.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/350389/2508488.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/350389/2508488.page GMT Re:!!! Basing !!! http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/350389/2508545.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/350389/2508545.page GMT !!! Basing !!! http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/350389/4149808.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/350389/4149808.page GMT