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Archaon- dorghar

Throgg
Exalted Hero- BSB, MoK, Juggernaut

20 Chaos Trolls- AHW

4 Dragon Ogres- Halberds
4 Dragon Ogres- Halberds

8 Skullcrushers- Ensorcelled Weapons, Full Command

3003 points

Archaon and bsb in juggers, throgg in trolls. It's clobbering time.

Thoughts?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5246159.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5246159.page GMT 3k WoC monster list http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5246219.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5246219.page GMT 3k WoC monster list
 thedarkavenger wrote:
Shadow magic would ruin your day. One well placed mindrazor and that will be one of your main blocks gone.


The same is true of any army with large blocks. In fact Id argue this army is one of thru least susceptible as one block has regen and the other has Archaon and good initiative.

The issues for me are no dispell scroll. Also not convinced on great weapons on the dragon ogres. What do you need S7 against that isn't low initiative? Against mournfang, dwarves and the like Id like to be going at initiative. But either option is good.

Also Id want a shield on the BsB to get him a 1+ save.


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What lore on Archaon?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5248032.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5248032.page GMT 3k WoC monster list http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5248080.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5248080.page GMT Re:3k WoC monster list
i did think about spltting the crushers into 2 unit with a character in each but then neither unit breaks hordes in one turn. even with archaon a unit of 4 will not remove a hordes stubborn in 1 combat round, the supporting attacks and second character will. this means the enemy never rarely get the chance to tie my units down for more than a turn.

Agreed on the Dragon Ogres, at first i saw the I2 and thought power over this little speed, but against lizardmen and dwarfs and ogres this could prove important. Will switch to halberds. BSB should be safe in unit with archaon hanging around.

With Archaon i was thinking lore of nurgle, especially with the stackable regen buff. Chaos trolls and throgg with 3+ regen sounds down right nasty.


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Another point guys, as i read it Archaon allows rerolls for break tests to units within 12", effectively making him a BSB. Am i reading this right?

If so, i was thinking of dropping the BSB in favour of a sorcerer on mount to lend more magic offense and to take a dispel scroll.

Thoughts?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5249042.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5249042.page GMT 3k WoC monster list http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5249252.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5249252.page GMT Re:3k WoC monster list bsb for a l2 sorcerer on mount, shadow also?

Coz as I read it archaon acts as a bsb allowing rerolls on break tests, meaning I could afford to have a wizard with scroll.

Also will they benefit from los on daemonic mounts as book classes them as monsterous beasts, not monsterous cav?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5249282.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5249282.page GMT 3k WoC monster list BSB, which allows you to re-roll all leadership test, not just break.
Another caster would be good though.

As for what lore on Archaon, I'd probably go with Shadow, always useful in almost all situations
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5249285.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5249285.page GMT 3k WoC monster list
 FlingitNow wrote:

The same is true of any army with large blocks. In fact Id argue this army is one of thru least susceptible as one block has regen and the other has Archaon and good initiative.


Against Archaon's block, He has to challenge. I would feed him one character and demolish the unit and miasma can drop your initiative. As for regen, the flaming banner is far to common to rely on it.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5249287.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5249287.page GMT Re:3k WoC monster list
Realistically in most cases i will still be getting the best part of 40 str 5 attacks back, more if they don't have flaming attacks.

Yes archaon is only for break tests, but i reality:

Turn 1- archaon is providing a Ld 10 bubble to whole army.

Turn 2- things should be close to or in combat, where the reroll for break tests takes over.

I really am leaning towards ditching the BSB. also looking at making the dragon ogres 2 units of 3. saving another 136 points.

This gives me a total of 333 points for a level 2 shadow, kitted out with a daemonic mount to join the skullcrushers.

Any points left over could maybe be put towards a couple of cheap warhound units for annoyance/redirecting/warmachine hunting.

Thoughts?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5249336.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5249336.page GMT 3k WoC monster list
 thedarkavenger wrote:
 FlingitNow wrote:

The same is true of any army with large blocks. In fact Id argue this army is one of thru least susceptible as one block has regen and the other has Archaon and good initiative.


Against Archaon's block, He has to challenge. I would feed him one character and demolish the unit and miasma can drop your initiative. As for regen, the flaming banner is far to common to rely on it.


Firstly Archaon doesn't need to challenge he's in a unit with 2 other CoC who could challenge instead. Im also aware of flaming banners and miasma I don't see how that makes a difference? Name me a big unit that is not hurt my okams? Yes Okams kills big units we all know this. A big unit with regen and/or high initiative is going to do better against Okams than a unit without.

Have you anything helpful to add?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5249368.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5249368.page GMT Re:3k WoC monster list
Archaon- Dorghar, Lore of Shadow- 650

Exalted Hero- MoK, Shield, BSB, Juggernaut- 203
Throgg- 195

20 Trolls- AHW- 760

3 Dragon Ogres- Halberds- 204
3 Dragon Ogres- Halberds- 204

7 Skulcrushers- Ensorcelled Weapons, FC- 576

Total- 2792

leaves 208 for a mounted sorcerer. worth the punt or stick with extra crusher and dragon ogres?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5249465.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5249465.page GMT 3k WoC monster list MoN and goes with Dragon Ogres or unmarked to go with Skullcrushers. If going with DOs best to make them 1 unit so he gets LoS.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5249479.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5249479.page GMT Re:3k WoC monster list
Archaon- Dorghar (shadow)

Exalted Hero- Shield, MoK, BSB, Juggernaut
Sorcerer- Level 2 (shadow), Dispel Scroll, Daemonic Mount
Throgg

20 Trolls- AHW

3 Dragon Ogres- Halberds
3 Dragon Ogres- Halberds

7 Skullcrushers- FC, Ensorcelled Weapons

Total= 2997

Smash Mouth acheived me thinks. What does everyone think?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5249578.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5249578.page GMT Re:3k WoC monster list
 mixer86 wrote:
Chaos trolls and throgg with 3+ regen sounds down right nasty.



Where does it say that? I thought trolls had 4+ regen?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5250857.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5250857.page GMT Re:3k WoC monster list
BAN wrote:
 mixer86 wrote:
Chaos trolls and throgg with 3+ regen sounds down right nasty.



Where does it say that? I thought trolls had 4+ regen?

Lore of Nurgle has a spell that grants regen or increase the save by one if you already have it till the next magic phase.
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5250988.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5250988.page GMT 3k WoC monster list lol

Cheers
Mike]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5251210.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5251210.page GMT Re:3k WoC monster list bsb and the sorcerer is meh.

Plus i'm not sure what to drop to take one.

Thoughts?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5251693.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5251693.page GMT 3k WoC monster list http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5252103.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5252103.page GMT Re:3k WoC monster list
Archaon for me is fantastic for his points. Sound strange? let me expalin my theory:

650 base, including dorghar, for that you get:

-An uber killy lord capable of smashing challengers and units alike.
-Is -1 to hit in combat, can only be wounding on 3+, not 2+, a 1+ armour save and 3+ ward.
-up to 10 attacks from archaon and 3 from dorghar. All are magical to boot.
-A level 2 Wizard.
-A secondary BSB (kind of)
-All four marks of chaos

A kitted out Chaos Lord (who will have nowhere near the killing power of archaon) is around 350 ish with a mark and mount. Then you would have to purchase a wizard with level 2 upgrade, thats another 150 ish. The (kind of) BSB is only applicable for break tests but in fairness thats where the reroll usually matters, to take a BSB is another 135 minimum, more if you want a mount like archaon.

So thats at least 635 points spent on replacing archaon with similar stuff, which in reality isn't as good as him.

So when you break it down with what archaon actually brings to the party, he is 6 kinds of awesome.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5252777.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5252777.page GMT 3k WoC monster list
Is there a different troll model available or am i missing something?

cheers for humoring a 30 year old asking noob question ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5253510.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5253510.page GMT 3k WoC monster list http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5253565.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5253565.page GMT 3k WoC monster list
Which is fun!

I was just wondering if i had made an error and there was a core sort of troll box unit with like 5 or 10 in and i wasnt seeing it was all

But if doing maths right, this army is about £460 all in? sound about right?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5253571.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5253571.page GMT 3k WoC monster list http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5253585.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5253585.page GMT 3k WoC monster list
Its that or look at knights or more warriors, will be discussing with my mate later and i had mentioned a monster list earlier. though mine had a DP and shaggoth in so was a bit diff.

Thanks though ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5253598.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5253598.page GMT Re:3k WoC monster list
They are modelled with 2 hand weapons anyway, resin so won't need arms of steel to carry the army around and with some chaos bitz and green stuff can certainly look chaos enough.

Plus I then have more models to add to my other fantasy army, ogres.

Yes its £210 for troops but thats 3k lists for u.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5253669.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5253669.page GMT 3k WoC monster list ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5254288.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5254288.page GMT Re:3k WoC monster list http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5254324.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5254324.page GMT 3k WoC monster list http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5254426.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5254426.page GMT Re:3k WoC monster list
I like the yhetees because the fur coats imho fits the theme of chaos coming from the frozen north.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5255184.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5255184.page GMT 3k WoC monster list
6 MI are a perfect size. The rear rank wont even get their AHW attack or stomp. Have 9 /10 for insurance. But 20 is mucho.

Your ogres can benefit from marks. Give them a TZ banner that lowers shooting and have your troll armada behind them (trolls can't take marks or banner). It essentially makes your ogres immune to cannons and anyone behind them (that they can't target).]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5256713.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5256713.page GMT Re:3k WoC monster list
The ahw is so the trolls reach minimum core.

20 ofensure I get as many attacks as possible bearing in mind they are going last against most things and smash unitsin 1 turn.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5256754.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5256754.page GMT 3k WoC monster list http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5256836.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5256836.page GMT Re:3k WoC monster list
If this was 7th where 5 x 5 units were the norm then i would break them up into probably 2 units of 6 and one of 8.

Alas, we now live in the edition of hordes galore. Hence why my ogres always run in monsterous hordes.

Its also the theory behind 2-3 BIG units forming a battleline rather than 5-6 20-25 man units.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5256931.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5256931.page GMT 3k WoC monster list
 FlingitNow wrote:
Firstly Archaon doesn't need to challenge he's in a unit with 2 other CoC who could challenge instead. Im also aware of flaming banners and miasma I don't see how that makes a difference? Name me a big unit that is not hurt my okams? Yes Okams kills big units we all know this. A big unit with regen and/or high initiative is going to do better against Okams than a unit without.


If the Skullcrushers are miasma'd then mindrazored off the board, it is goodbye Archaon and BSB. As a double 1 with a reroll is still unlikely to be made. At 3k you need more than five deployments. Chances are, your opponent will feed Archaon the minimum, destroy the rest of the army as there is very little of it and then bring his entire army to bear on the skullcrushers.

Don't get me wrong, Skullcrushers + Archaon are a brutal unit, but you need things to synergise with them. This is mostly knights and warhounds. And units to break steadfast.

I would consider blocks of 24 warriors to make up core. And a cheeky warhound unit to stop your big expensive unit charging at an inopportune moment.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5257659.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5257659.page GMT Re:3k WoC monster list

.....................................................no.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5260363.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5260363.page GMT 3k WoC monster list
I've always been interested in starting this kind of army, but I never had the drive to get it started. I already have roughly 3k worth of chaos, well more like 4k now and a lot of it still needs to be painted lol.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5260961.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5260961.page GMT Re:3k WoC monster list WoC. But i used to have a warriors heavy army and as good at it was, i would effectively be going over old ground.

I've wanted to do a throgg list for a LONG time and this is my chance with a new awesome model for Throgg.

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5261132.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5261132.page GMT 3k WoC monster list
And they limit you in deployments. You are going to get outdeployed by most armies. Bar the 90 bloodletter DoC army and a few others.

I would advise on taking a unit of 8 trolls with throgg and fill the rest of your core with warhounds and marauder horsemen. These will synergise with your army quite well, as they fill the roles of redirectors and war machine hunters. Templates are still your fear.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5261250.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5261250.page GMT 3k WoC monster list Also, the Hellcannon is a Monster...

As for the Everchosen, he may be a good buy in most regards, but I'd rather spend those points on multiple characters for versatility and to offer multiple targets. As tough as the Big Guy is, he's still only one model.

But yes, as for what units can be dealt with via Mindrazor, I don't think we need to bother mentioning them. It's a stupid-good spell in a stupid-good Lore. Saying a unit is vulnerable to it is like saying a unit is vulnerable to large numbers of high WS, high S, ASF attacks; everything is vulnerable to it.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5261503.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5261503.page GMT 3k WoC monster list
Warpsolution wrote:
But yes, as for what units can be dealt with via Mindrazor, I don't think we need to bother mentioning them. It's a stupid-good spell in a stupid-good Lore. Saying a unit is vulnerable to it is like saying a unit is vulnerable to large numbers of high WS, high S, ASF attacks; everything is vulnerable to it.


Seeing as everyone misinterpreted me, what I meant to say was; In most armies at this size, you can take a mindrazor-ed unit and still continue the game without losing too much. Skaven are a prime culprit of this. But in an army where all the units are so expensive, a single mindrazor will be a turbocharged boot to the face.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5262830.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5262830.page GMT Re:3k WoC monster list
Thats why i'm taking shadow on both wizards to do some initiative dropping/mindrazoring of my own.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5263055.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5263055.page GMT 3k WoC monster list
I still think you need something that will break steadfast rather than something that can.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5263464.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5263464.page GMT Re:3k WoC monster list
Vs str3, t3- clanrat spearman

40A, hit on 4's =20, wound on 5's=6-7, regen save =3-3.5 wounds= 1 dead troll

Trolls, deployed 6 wide= 60A, hit on 4's= 30, wound on 2's= 25 wounds plus 6 stomps= 30 wounds no armour save.

Break steadfast.

Vs str 4, t4- 40 saurus warriors with spears

Trolls go first- 60A=30 hits. 3's to wound=20 wounds minus armour saves = 16-17 dead saurus.l plus stomps =20-21 dead total.

Saurus have 50 (for spears)= 25 hits, 12.5 wounds= 6.25 wounds after regen.

Break steadfast.

This is the soort of thing i'll come across. How can you say it won't break units? And please don't say the unit can be mindrazored, we know that can happen, but very few round my way take shadow and you cannot build and army to combat it. Best you can do is use it yourself and have a scroll to stop them.
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5264218.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5264218.page GMT 3k WoC monster list DP on a 12 with 3 D6! not gonna happen but frightening.

Archaeon DP statline horror!

Needs thinking about.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5264394.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5264394.page GMT Re:3k WoC monster list
 mixer86 wrote:
Lets assume the trolls are against units of 40:

Vs str3, t3- clanrat spearman

40A, hit on 4's =20, wound on 5's=6-7, regen save =3-3.5 wounds= 1 dead troll

Trolls, deployed 6 wide= 60A, hit on 4's= 30, wound on 2's= 25 wounds plus 6 stomps= 30 wounds no armour save.

Break steadfast.

Vs str 4, t4- 40 saurus warriors with spears

Trolls go first- 60A=30 hits. 3's to wound=20 wounds minus armour saves = 16-17 dead saurus.l plus stomps =20-21 dead total.

Saurus have 50 (for spears)= 25 hits, 12.5 wounds= 6.25 wounds after regen.

Break steadfast.

This is the soort of thing i'll come across. How can you say it won't break units? And please don't say the unit can be mindrazored, we know that can happen, but very few round my way take shadow and you cannot build and army to combat it. Best you can do is use it yourself and have a scroll to stop them.



The trolls will without a doubt break steadfast on clanrats. But any competent lizardmen player will make sure that by the time you hit his saurus they will be buffed up the nose, and have the parry save.

Mindrazor isn't the only spell you have to worry about. It is just the easiest to use as an example. I'm not saying it won't break units. It just isn't guaranteed to break it.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5264734.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5264734.page GMT 3k WoC monster list http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5264820.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5264820.page GMT 3k WoC monster list
Tiarna Fuilteach wrote:
Don't bother with AHW on your trolls, only your front rank get the benefit of it


Normally I wouldn't but 20 with ahw=760 which covers core requirement.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5266973.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5266973.page GMT Re:3k WoC monster list
Archaon- Dorghar

Throgg
Exalted Hero- BSB, MoK, Shield, Jugger
Sorcerer- L2, Daemonic Mount, Dispel Scroll, Charmed Shield, Chalice of Chaos

18 Trolls
Chaos Chariot- MoK
Chaos Chariot- MoK

Chaos Warshrine- MoT

7 Skullcrushers- FC, Ensorcelled Weapons

Total- 2849

Added the chariots for flank protecting/chaff clearing.

With Archaon and Throgg smashing things left, right and centre, plus archaon's reroll on the eye of the gods plus the 3d6 for each roll the warshrine seemed like a good addition.

leaves me with 151 points. any suggestions/comments?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5273707.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5273707.page GMT 3k WoC monster list ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5275453.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5275453.page GMT 3k WoC monster list
Or drop a Troll and get a unit of dragon ogres.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5276162.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5276162.page GMT Re:3k WoC monster list
1 chimera, gets popped easy and losing a chariot for flank protection.

Losing 1 troll for drogres would mean naked drogres as i've dropped ahw from trolls. Not even ahw for them.

Maybe drop a troll and 10 point item for 3rd chariot- MoK and extra crusher?

Or maybe getting a gore beast in there plus some mutations/banner for crushers etc?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5276322.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5276322.page GMT 3k WoC monster list http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5276333.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5276333.page GMT 3k WoC monster list
 FlingitNow wrote:
Yeah gorebeast would be good.


Gonna add the flaming banner to skullcrushers to taking on annoying nurgle/festus combos and regen in general.

140 points left:

Gorebeast chariot with MoK

OR

Second MoT Warshrine for double stacking eye of the gods rolls?

Archaon possibly getting 2 rolls per turn is nasty.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5277468.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5277468.page GMT 3k WoC monster list http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5277555.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5277555.page GMT Re:3k WoC monster list
Can support the slower trolls rather than the skullcrushers.

i think i might be sorted with this then:

Archaon- Dorghar- 650

Exalted Hero- MoK, BSB, Shield, Juggernaut- 203
Sorcerer- Level 2, Daemonic Mount, Dispel Scroll, Chalice of Chaos, Charmed Shield- 220
Throgg- 195

18 Chaos Trolls- 630
Chariot of Chaos- MoK-120
Chariot of Chaos- MoK-120

Chaos Warshrine- MoT- 135
Gore Beast Chariot- MoK- 140

7 Skull Crushers of Khorne- FC, Banner of Eternal Flame, Ensorcelled Weapons- 586

Total- 2999
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Funny story. 3 un upgraded bull centaurs is 120 points T5 and a 3+ save. Does no impact hits and has a total of 6 S4 attacks and 3 S4 stomps, compare and contrast with a Khorne Chariot!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5277707.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5277707.page GMT Re:3k WoC monster list
1-absolutely nothing
2- like it

Centaurs can march. I'm struggling after that.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5277720.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5277720.page GMT 3k WoC monster list http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5289260.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505070/5289260.page GMT 3k WoC monster list
BAN wrote:
which forgeworld book are bull centaurs in?


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