Filch wrote:
Damn i am jealous of your collection. On top of that you was smart to magnetize most of your vehicles.

Use puppet master on super heavies by having Belakor.

It seems as though 9 oblitz should be able to kill termi with 2+ saves but the deathstars you say have 2++ saves. U gotta go melta with that. Maybe many squads of plague marines and melta guns. U then have to force wounds by mass shots or wounds. I think you should run typhus and field 70 cultist zombies to tarpit the death stars.

icejza_dachilla wrote:

 Filch wrote:
Damn i am jealous of your collection. On top of that you was smart to magnetize most of your vehicles.

Use puppet master on super heavies by having Belakor.

It seems as though 9 oblitz should be able to kill termi with 2+ saves but the deathstars you say have 2++ saves. U gotta go melta with that. Maybe many squads of plague marines and melta guns. U then have to force wounds by mass shots or wounds. I think you should run typhus and field 70 cultist zombies to tarpit the death stars.

Weight of dice really doesn't do anything against 2++ because only 1/36 wounds will not get saved and the cultists wont be able to tarpit a deathstar that has hit and run. They will use their ridiculous move to go right around the cultists and attack more optimal targets imo.

 Will1541 wrote:

icejza_dachilla wrote:

 Filch wrote:
Damn i am jealous of your collection. On top of that you was smart to magnetize most of your vehicles.

Use puppet master on super heavies by having Belakor.

It seems as though 9 oblitz should be able to kill termi with 2+ saves but the deathstars you say have 2++ saves. U gotta go melta with that. Maybe many squads of plague marines and melta guns. U then have to force wounds by mass shots or wounds. I think you should run typhus and field 70 cultist zombies to tarpit the death stars.

Weight of dice really doesn't do anything against 2++ because only 1/36 wounds will not get saved and the cultists wont be able to tarpit a deathstar that has hit and run. They will use their ridiculous move to go right around the cultists and attack more optimal targets imo.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but if you're speaking of the Screamerstar Weight of die does work. Once the first one gets through, that 2++ drops, and from there, they're really exspensive windriders with a 4++.

 Will1541 wrote:

icejza_dachilla wrote:

 Filch wrote:
Damn i am jealous of your collection. On top of that you was smart to magnetize most of your vehicles.

Use puppet master on super heavies by having Belakor.

It seems as though 9 oblitz should be able to kill termi with 2+ saves but the deathstars you say have 2++ saves. U gotta go melta with that. Maybe many squads of plague marines and melta guns. U then have to force wounds by mass shots or wounds. I think you should run typhus and field 70 cultist zombies to tarpit the death stars.

Weight of dice really doesn't do anything against 2++ because only 1/36 wounds will not get saved and the cultists wont be able to tarpit a deathstar that has hit and run. They will use their ridiculous move to go right around the cultists and attack more optimal targets imo.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but if you're speaking of the Screamerstar Weight of die does work. Once the first one gets through, that 2++ drops, and from there, they're really exspensive windriders with a 4++.

 Nuln_Oil wrote:
My local gaming store is hosting a 2000 point tourney using all available rules. I'm trying to build a CSM list that will have a chance to beat some of the more common deathstars. In particular, I'm talking about Eldar/Tau/Taudar. I would also like the ability to handle super heavies, but it is not necessary. Primarily, I am interested in building a list that will give me the best chance at knocking out players who bring the cheese. I am not concerned, at all, with winning the tournament. My life will be content if I take out someone relying on a 2++ re-rollable, and so forth.

What I need is a little help building a list to do this. I am willing to add on an allied detachment, and I willing to buy additional models. Here's what I am working with:

1 Chaos Lord on Bike, options for burning brand, LC, PF, and Burning Brand.
1 Chaos Sorcerer on Bike, with Sword
8 Spawn
3 Heldrakes (magnetized)
9 Obliterators
2 Predators (all options magnetized)
2 Forgefiends/Maulerfiends (magentized)
5 Termies (not assembled yet, so all options possible)
Kharn
Typhus
Abaddon
2 Daemon Princes (1 Black Mace, 1 Sword)
Be'Lakor
ADL w/Quad and Comms
2 Sentry Defense w/Quad Las
50 Plague Marines (can be used as other CSMs)(2 w/melta, 7 w/plasma, 4 w/flamers)
3 Rhinos
2 Helbrutes
70 Cultists

With my goals in mind, what would you do? Remember, i am willing to make an allied detachment and/or buy additional units.