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  • Master Artisans may indeed be split into a hit and wound selection
  • No apparent super doctrine
  • Core restrictions abound
  • 2CP to give +1 to hit to 10 CORE models probably means big unrestricted strats are going to die horribly


    • What else seems interesting?

    Parent Chapter
    Ultramarines

    Chapter Tactic
    The Bond Martial

    Each time a model with this tactic makes a melee attack against an Infantry or Biker unit, an unmodified hit roll of 6 automatically wounds the target.
    Each time a unit with this tactic is selected to shoot or fight, you can re-roll one hit roll when resolving that unit’s attacks.

    Relics
    Armor of Zanaris

    Primaris model only.

    Each time an attack with an Armor Penetration characteristic of -1 or -2 is allocated to the bearer, that attack has an Armor Penetration characteristic of 0 instead.

    Each time the bearer would lose a wound as a result of a mortal wound, roll one D6: on a 6+ that wound is not lost.

    Banner of Echoes

    Primaris Ancient model only. Once per battle, in your Command phase, the bearer can use this Relic. If it does, until the start of your next Command phase, the bearer gains the following ability:

    Banner of Necthis (Aura): While a friendly Silver Templars Primaris Core unit is within 6” of the bearer, add 1 to the Attacks characteristic of models in that unit.

    Warlord Traits
    Accomplished Duellist

    At the start of the Fight phase, if this model is within Engagement Range of any enemy units, it can fight first that phase.

    Each time this Warlord makes a melee attack, if it made a charge move, was charged, or performed a Heroic Intervention this turn, you can re-roll the wound roll.

    Precision Commander

    In your Command phase, you can select one friendly Silver Templars Primaris Core unit within 6” of this Warlord. Until the start of your next Command phase, each time that unit is selected to shoot or fight, you can re-roll one hit roll and you can re-roll one wound roll.

    Spiritual Synergy

    Select one weapon this Warlord is equipped with (excluding Relics). Each time this Warlord makes an attack with that weapon, an unmodified wound roll of 6 inflicts 1 mortal wound on the target in addition to any normal damage.

    Stratagems
    The Swordsman’s Strike: 1 CP / 2 CP

    Use this Stratagem in your Shooting phase, when a Silver Templars Primaris Core unit from your army is selected to shoot, or in the Fight phase, when a Silver Templars Primaris Core unit from your army is selected to fight. Until the end of the phase, each time a model in that unit makes an attack against a Character unit, add 1 to that attack’s hit roll. If that unit contains 5 or fewer models, this Stratagem costs 1 CP; otherwise, it costs 2 CP.

    Claim Runes: 1 CP

    Use this Stratagem in the Fight phase, when a Silver Templars Primaris unit from your army is selected to fight. If, when it was selected to fight, that unit was within Engagement Range of an enemy unit containing more models than itself, then until the end of the phase, each time a model in that Silver Templars unit makes an attack:

    Add 1 to the Strength characteristic of that attack.

    Improve the Armor Penetration characteristic of that attack by 1.

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     Daedalus81 wrote:
    Banner Aura is one unit rather than all
    *sigh*

    "Sorry, Brother-Sergeant Delphinius. My squad saw the banner first and thus we have drawn inspiration from its mighty visage. You'll have to wait."]]>     http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792150/10930723.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792150/10930723.page GMT     The WD Marine Chapter
     H.B.M.C. wrote:
     Daedalus81 wrote:
    Banner Aura is one unit rather than all
    *sigh*

    "Sorry, Brother-Sergeant Delphinius. My squad saw the banner first and thus we have drawn inspiration from its mighty visage. You'll have to wait."

    I don't think that's how it works based on that wording. It doesn't say there's any limit to the number of units that can benefit. Its only restriction is "once per battle". So if you have two eligible units within 6", each is "a friendly Silver Templars unit" and would get the buff.]]>     http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792150/10930731.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792150/10930731.page GMT     The WD Marine Chapter http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792150/10930736.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792150/10930736.page GMT The WD Marine Chapter
     ZergSmasher wrote:
     H.B.M.C. wrote:
     Daedalus81 wrote:
    Banner Aura is one unit rather than all
    *sigh*

    "Sorry, Brother-Sergeant Delphinius. My squad saw the banner first and thus we have drawn inspiration from its mighty visage. You'll have to wait."

    I don't think that's how it works based on that wording. It doesn't say there's any limit to the number of units that can benefit. Its only restriction is "once per battle". So if you have two eligible units within 6", each is "a friendly Silver Templars unit" and would get the buff.


    Oops you're right. I read it wrong. ]]>     http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792150/10930737.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792150/10930737.page GMT     The WD Marine Chapter
     Daedalus81 wrote:


    Oops you're right. I read it wrong.


    Still not good news for Banner Bearers that were already marginal and one of the first things cut for points. You get +1 to one of the most worthless stats in the game, when killed you get to shoot, potentially a lot, or fight once. Half the time. Now your Relic is a Use Once while Sun Pistols and such are a Use All Game Long extravaganza.


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    Precision Commander

    In your Command phase, you can select one friendly Silver Templars Primaris Core unit within 6” of this Warlord. Until the start of your next Command phase, each time that unit is selected to shoot or fight, you can re-roll one hit roll and you can re-roll one wound roll.


    So....

    if you don't have a Captain/Lieutenant...

    or if you have a lot of units that break off of a Captain/Lieutenant after starting the turn within 6" but not remaining within 6" during the shoot fight phase.

    Technically you can reroll more than 1's, you can even reroll successes.. but you see what I'm getting at here? This feels REALLY limited compared to the Beatstick warlord trait.]]>     http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792150/10930799.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792150/10930799.page GMT     The WD Marine Chapter
     Daedalus81 wrote:
    Top takeaways:

    No apparent super doctrine



    They're a declared successor chapter of the Ultramarines. Which means their superdoctrine is the Ultramarines superdoctrine.

    Was there really an expectation that they'd get a codex supplement level rule just for showing up in Conquest/WD?]]>     http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792150/10931025.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792150/10931025.page GMT     The WD Marine Chapter
    Sterling191 wrote:
    They're a declared successor chapter of the Ultramarines. Which means their superdoctrine is the Ultramarines superdoctrine.

    Was there really an expectation that they'd get a codex supplement level rule just for showing up in Conquest/WD?

    This. I have no idea why people expected them to get anything unique in this regard.

    Also, I like how this literally who chapter got hundreds of times more effort put in their rules than worthless garbage Blood Ravens did ]]>     http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792150/10931056.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792150/10931056.page GMT     The WD Marine Chapter
     H.B.M.C. wrote:
     Daedalus81 wrote:
    Banner Aura is one unit rather than all
    *sigh*

    "Sorry, Brother-Sergeant Delphinius. My squad saw the banner first and thus we have drawn inspiration from its mighty visage. You'll have to wait."


    I know it doesn't actually work this way, but still. ]]>     http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792150/10931059.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792150/10931059.page GMT     Re:The WD Marine Chapter
    Spiritual synergy is the same as paragon of war except it randomly excludes relics. Claim runes is good though.

    is this an indication of the new codexes actually bringing a big nerf to marines?]]>     http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792150/10931095.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792150/10931095.page GMT     The WD Marine Chapter
     Irbis wrote:
    Sterling191 wrote:
    They're a declared successor chapter of the Ultramarines. Which means their superdoctrine is the Ultramarines superdoctrine.

    Was there really an expectation that they'd get a codex supplement level rule just for showing up in Conquest/WD?

    This. I have no idea why people expected them to get anything unique in this regard.

    Also, I like how this literally who chapter got hundreds of times more effort put in their rules than worthless garbage Blood Ravens did


    There hasn’t been a Dawn of War game in a while. Blood Ravens are likely to fade.]]>     http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792150/10931099.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792150/10931099.page GMT     The WD Marine Chapter
    Breton wrote:
     Irbis wrote:
    Sterling191 wrote:
    They're a declared successor chapter of the Ultramarines. Which means their superdoctrine is the Ultramarines superdoctrine.

    Was there really an expectation that they'd get a codex supplement level rule just for showing up in Conquest/WD?

    This. I have no idea why people expected them to get anything unique in this regard.

    Also, I like how this literally who chapter got hundreds of times more effort put in their rules than worthless garbage Blood Ravens did


    There hasn’t been a Dawn of War game in a while. Blood Ravens are likely to fade.


    Also because Silver Tenplars were used as a bonus draw to get people to subscribe to Conquest last year and Blood Ravens weren't. Blood Ravens have never had their own Codex Supplement and this is basically just an update of the one put out for Conquest for a wider audience. At least the White Dwarf Blood Raven article had more thought put into it than the Raven's original Index Astartes article.]]>     http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792150/10931106.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792150/10931106.page GMT     The WD Marine Chapter
    Sterling191 wrote:
     Daedalus81 wrote:
    Top takeaways:

    No apparent super doctrine



    They're a declared successor chapter of the Ultramarines. Which means their superdoctrine is the Ultramarines superdoctrine.

    Was there really an expectation that they'd get a codex supplement level rule just for showing up in Conquest/WD?


    Hah. I copy pasted and I glossed right over them being UM successors. Staying up too late working of these days.


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    footfoe wrote:
    is this an indication of the new codexes actually bringing a big nerf to marines?


    If they're keeping their free AP and super doctrines, they probably should take hits. We already saw Salamanders losing their hit reroll so this just further confirms MA getting split up, which is great.]]>     http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792150/10931110.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792150/10931110.page GMT     Re:The WD Marine Chapter http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792150/10931144.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792150/10931144.page GMT The WD Marine Chapter http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792150/10931161.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792150/10931161.page GMT The WD Marine Chapter
     ZergSmasher wrote:
     H.B.M.C. wrote:
     Daedalus81 wrote:
    Banner Aura is one unit rather than all
    *sigh*

    "Sorry, Brother-Sergeant Delphinius. My squad saw the banner first and thus we have drawn inspiration from its mighty visage. You'll have to wait."

    I don't think that's how it works based on that wording. It doesn't say there's any limit to the number of units that can benefit. Its only restriction is "once per battle". So if you have two eligible units within 6", each is "a friendly Silver Templars unit" and would get the buff.

    Thats even worse. Nobody would take that over the constant benefits the other Relic Banners give. ]]>     http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792150/10931180.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792150/10931180.page GMT     The WD Marine Chapter
    EDIT: Apparently I was confused and this thread was about Tome Keepers and not about Silver Templars...
    EDIT2: No, I was correct in the first time and this was about Silver Templars...

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     H.B.M.C. wrote:
     Daedalus81 wrote:
    Banner Aura is one unit rather than all
    *sigh*

    "Sorry, Brother-Sergeant Delphinius. My squad saw the banner first and thus we have drawn inspiration from its mighty visage. You'll have to wait."

    clearly the inspirantion has a long cooldown.


    2CP to give +1 to hit to 10 CORE models probably means big unrestricted strats are going to die horribly


    I really don't like that, at least for books that are going to have to wait for an update. ]]>     http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792150/10931191.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792150/10931191.page GMT     The WD Marine Chapter
    Karol wrote:
    I really don't like that, at least for books that are going to have to wait for an update.


    You won't get CORE nerfs until your codex hits. The only thing changing mid-stream is weapons.]]>     http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792150/10931195.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792150/10931195.page GMT     The WD Marine Chapter PA or codex won't suddenly turn in to one storm bolter in your unit has str5. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792150/10931200.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792150/10931200.page GMT Re:The WD Marine Chapter
    Bit divided about which chapter to go with for a Kill Team( from the Recruit Edition set ); Tome Keepers or Blood Ravens. 40K they might not be up to snuff, but with KT its really down to the colour scheme and I just can't decide!

    ]]>     http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792150/10931205.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792150/10931205.page GMT     The WD Marine Chapter WD dudes seems interesting, specialy for a primaris only chapter. This months WD had ton of cool stuff, actualy worth buying. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792150/10931210.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792150/10931210.page GMT Re:The WD Marine Chapter
    SamusDrake wrote:
    I take it this is about the Tome Keepers?

    Oh, I though this was about Silver Templars... ]]>     http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792150/10931213.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792150/10931213.page GMT     Re:The WD Marine Chapter WD studio.

    I take it this is discussing the new issue Index article...ah.]]>     http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792150/10931214.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792150/10931214.page GMT     Re:The WD Marine Chapter
    SamusDrake wrote:
    Bit confused because the White Dwarf Chapter is the Tome Keepers. Its the one created by the WD studio.

    I take it this is discussing the new issue Index article...ah.


    I'm not sure any more...


    ]]>     http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792150/10931215.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792150/10931215.page GMT     Re:The WD Marine Chapter
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6q6u7xEcnv8&feature=youtu.be&t=1269]]>     http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792150/10931223.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792150/10931223.page GMT     Re:The WD Marine Chapter
     Daedalus81 wrote:
    Silver Templars

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6q6u7xEcnv8&feature=youtu.be&t=1269


    Or if you prefer images, they've been in news and rumour a couple of days

    https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/792070.page#10927627]]>     http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792150/10931229.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792150/10931229.page GMT     Re:The WD Marine Chapter http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792150/10931388.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792150/10931388.page GMT Re:The WD Marine Chapter
    SamusDrake wrote:
    So basically, they're silver Black Templars. Gotcha.


    well sure except they're an Ultramarines sucessor, and they're codex adherant and their shoulderpads are yellow.. and they use Librarians, and they don't belive the Emperor is a god and that they have a homeworld and aren't fleet based, they're just like the black templars...

    wait a minute, thats nothing LIKE the Black templars!

    seriously the only thing they have in common is basicly a love of swordsmanship, having templar in their name and that they are space marines ]]>     http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792150/10931763.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792150/10931763.page GMT     Re:The WD Marine Chapter
    BrianDavion wrote:
    SamusDrake wrote:
    So basically, they're silver Black Templars. Gotcha.


    well sure except they're an Ultramarines sucessor, and they're codex adherant and their shoulderpads are yellow.. and they use Librarians, and they don't belive the Emperor is a god and that they have a homeworld and aren't fleet based, they're just like the black templars...

    wait a minute, thats nothing LIKE the Black templars!

    seriously the only thing they have in common is basicly a love of swordsmanship, having templar in their name and that they are space marines


    You just have to be that guy, don't you Brian! ]]>     http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792150/10931905.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792150/10931905.page GMT     Re:The WD Marine Chapter
    SamusDrake wrote:
    BrianDavion wrote:
    SamusDrake wrote:
    So basically, they're silver Black Templars. Gotcha.


    well sure except they're an Ultramarines sucessor, and they're codex adherant and their shoulderpads are yellow.. and they use Librarians, and they don't belive the Emperor is a god and that they have a homeworld and aren't fleet based, they're just like the black templars...

    wait a minute, thats nothing LIKE the Black templars!

    seriously the only thing they have in common is basicly a love of swordsmanship, having templar in their name and that they are space marines


    You just have to be that guy, don't you Brian!


    I mean... it's the internet, it's impossiable to know someone's joking or not. ]]>     http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792150/10931933.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792150/10931933.page GMT     Re:The WD Marine Chapter
    BrianDavion wrote:
    they don't belive the Emperor is a god


    We sure about that one? Greyshields and other Primaris that aren't indoctrinated by existing Chapters tend to refer to the Emperor as the Omnissiah.]]>     http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792150/10932240.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792150/10932240.page GMT     Re:The WD Marine Chapter
     Platuan4th wrote:
    BrianDavion wrote:
    they don't belive the Emperor is a god


    We sure about that one? Greyshields and other Primaris that aren't indoctrinated by existing Chapters tend to refer to the Emperor as the Omnissiah.


    only the ones in a single book and primaris where being fleshed out a bit at that time. ]]>     http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792150/10932247.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792150/10932247.page GMT     The WD Marine Chapter http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792150/10932272.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792150/10932272.page GMT The WD Marine Chapter
     McMagnus Mindbullets wrote:
    Really interesting to see the first things other than auras that are core only... Both excited and worried to see how this shakes out; I hope they get core unit allocation balanced.


    We also got a glimpse of marine spells like Might of Heroes going CORE / CHARACTER only.]]>     http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792150/10932273.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792150/10932273.page GMT     The WD Marine Chapter GW rushed the Space Marine book out early just so that they could get slammed with nerfs. Can't say GW doesn't respond to complaints now.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792150/10932284.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792150/10932284.page GMT The WD Marine Chapter http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792150/10932331.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792150/10932331.page GMT The WD Marine Chapter
     H.B.M.C. wrote:
    Rushed out? Do you know how long book development takes? There's nothing rushed about this.


    Besides this is becoming a pattern all itself. SM get Codex #1 that nerfs the hell out of them, they suck for a while, and they get Codex #15 or so about 3/4 through the edition that over-boosts them.]]>     http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792150/10932367.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792150/10932367.page GMT     The WD Marine Chapter
    Breton wrote:
     H.B.M.C. wrote:
    Rushed out? Do you know how long book development takes? There's nothing rushed about this.


    Besides this is becoming a pattern all itself. SM get Codex #1 that nerfs the hell out of them, they suck for a while, and they get Codex #15 or so about 3/4 through the edition that over-boosts them.


    Is a pattern of 1 a pattern?]]>     http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792150/10932377.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792150/10932377.page GMT     The WD Marine Chapter
     Daedalus81 wrote:
    Breton wrote:
     H.B.M.C. wrote:
    Rushed out? Do you know how long book development takes? There's nothing rushed about this.


    Besides this is becoming a pattern all itself. SM get Codex #1 that nerfs the hell out of them, they suck for a while, and they get Codex #15 or so about 3/4 through the edition that over-boosts them.


    Is a pattern of 1 a pattern?


    Last edition wasn't the first time they've released a second book for SM late in the lifecycle. Angels of Death added a bunch of formations and Libby disciplines - plus some stand alone formation releases. ]]>     http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792150/10932386.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792150/10932386.page GMT     The WD Marine Chapter
    Breton wrote:
     Daedalus81 wrote:
    Breton wrote:
     H.B.M.C. wrote:
    Rushed out? Do you know how long book development takes? There's nothing rushed about this.


    Besides this is becoming a pattern all itself. SM get Codex #1 that nerfs the hell out of them, they suck for a while, and they get Codex #15 or so about 3/4 through the edition that over-boosts them.


    Is a pattern of 1 a pattern?


    Last edition wasn't the first time they've released a second book for SM late in the lifecycle. Angels of Death added a bunch of formations and Libby disciplines - plus some stand alone formation releases.


    Yeah, at a time when every other Codex was getting exactly the same sort of expansions. That's not the same thing as them getting a second full main book with new supplements and expansions during the codex life cycle.]]>     http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792150/10932396.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792150/10932396.page GMT     The WD Marine Chapter
     Platuan4th wrote:


    Yeah, at a time when every other Codex was getting exactly the same sort of expansions. That's not the same thing as them getting a second full main book with new supplements and expansions during the codex life cycle.


    You know what, you're absolutely right. There's no way they release a sub par codex for a while that will placate the non-marine players for a while before releasing a new book that will force a now even larger subsection of their players to buy at least one if not two extra books. This pattern certainly didn't start with a Limited Edition Formation only available to people who preordered an expensive model bundle on the website, get doubled down with Angels of Death, and repeat in 8th Ed. What WAS I thinking. ]]>     http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792150/10932401.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792150/10932401.page GMT     Re:The WD Marine Chapter GW's moving towards reconsolidation. the supplements where the next step. the final step is gonna be with the 9E codex finally rolling SWs, DAs etc back into one codex. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792150/10932402.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792150/10932402.page GMT Re:The WD Marine Chapter
    BrianDavion wrote:
    the libby disiplines and formations where mostly ways to give flavor to the other first founding chapters. in retrospect, I think that marked the beginning of GW's moving towards reconsolidation. the supplements where the next step. the final step is gonna be with the 9E codex finally rolling SWs, DAs etc back into one codex.


    Some of it was a reprint from elsewhere assuming 1D4Chan is correct. (its been a few years and these things all tend to meld after so long) Heck even the reason a lot of people bought it was for a reprint. Skyhammer Annihilation Force.]]>     http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792150/10932409.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792150/10932409.page GMT     Re:The WD Marine Chapter
    Breton wrote:
    BrianDavion wrote:
    the libby disiplines and formations where mostly ways to give flavor to the other first founding chapters. in retrospect, I think that marked the beginning of GW's moving towards reconsolidation. the supplements where the next step. the final step is gonna be with the 9E codex finally rolling SWs, DAs etc back into one codex.


    Some of it was a reprint from elsewhere assuming 1D4Chan is correct. (its been a few years and these things all tend to meld after so long) Heck even the reason a lot of people bought it was for a reprint. Skyhammer Annihilation Force.


    most of the formations where reprints IIRC ]]>     http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792150/10932413.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792150/10932413.page GMT     Re:The WD Marine Chapter
    BrianDavion wrote:
    Breton wrote:
    BrianDavion wrote:
    the libby disiplines and formations where mostly ways to give flavor to the other first founding chapters. in retrospect, I think that marked the beginning of GW's moving towards reconsolidation. the supplements where the next step. the final step is gonna be with the 9E codex finally rolling SWs, DAs etc back into one codex.


    Some of it was a reprint from elsewhere assuming 1D4Chan is correct. (its been a few years and these things all tend to meld after so long) Heck even the reason a lot of people bought it was for a reprint. Skyhammer Annihilation Force.


    most of the formations where reprints IIRC


    About 40%. But this was the only place to get Skyhammer without pirating or preordering a couple hundred bucks of stuff you potentially already had. ]]>     http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792150/10932418.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792150/10932418.page GMT     Re:The WD Marine Chapter
    Breton wrote:
    BrianDavion wrote:
    Breton wrote:
    BrianDavion wrote:
    the libby disiplines and formations where mostly ways to give flavor to the other first founding chapters. in retrospect, I think that marked the beginning of GW's moving towards reconsolidation. the supplements where the next step. the final step is gonna be with the 9E codex finally rolling SWs, DAs etc back into one codex.


    Some of it was a reprint from elsewhere assuming 1D4Chan is correct. (its been a few years and these things all tend to meld after so long) Heck even the reason a lot of people bought it was for a reprint. Skyhammer Annihilation Force.


    most of the formations where reprints IIRC


    About 40%. But this was the only place to get Skyhammer without pirating or preordering a couple hundred bucks of stuff you potentially already had.


    yup. and all the other formations where solid. I liked the white scar gladius ]]>     http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792150/10932419.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792150/10932419.page GMT     Re:The WD Marine Chapter
    BrianDavion wrote:

    yup. and all the other formations where solid. I liked the white scar gladius


    Formations were the bandaid and sales tool of the edition. If something sucked you stuck em in a formation, you got to sell the formation and the models that go in it.]]>     http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792150/10932424.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792150/10932424.page GMT     Re:The WD Marine Chapter
    Breton wrote:
    BrianDavion wrote:

    yup. and all the other formations where solid. I liked the white scar gladius


    Formations were the bandaid and sales tool of the edition. If something sucked you stuck em in a formation, you got to sell the formation and the models that go in it.


    I admit it was kind of fun to see the basic space marine battle company become the boogy man of the edition ]]>     http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792150/10932425.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792150/10932425.page GMT     Re:The WD Marine Chapter
    BrianDavion wrote:
    Breton wrote:
    BrianDavion wrote:

    yup. and all the other formations where solid. I liked the white scar gladius


    Formations were the bandaid and sales tool of the edition. If something sucked you stuck em in a formation, you got to sell the formation and the models that go in it.


    I admit it was kind of fun to see the basic space marine battle company become the boogy man of the edition


    It was the free rhinos, Razorbacks and drop pods. That's when I got most of my Razorbacks with painted alternate top door, and Drop Pods]]>     http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792150/10932431.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/792150/10932431.page GMT