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Dakka Forum: Rage against the Wargamer

Posted: 2014-08-21 15:59:07
Forum post by Selym, 123 responses at time of this post.

So I was at work today, and got into conversation with a coworker (an elderly lady, who is usually quite a nice, caring person), and we go to talking about hobbies.
As the wargamer that I am, I mentioned the hobby, describing it as like a combination of Airfix and an over-complicated version of chess. She said that she had com across it before, and was shocked that I was into it, saying that it's for "boys who never grow up", and that "women don't have anything to do with it".

This lead me into several lines of thought for the rest of the day:

1) I can understand the initial thought of wargaming being immature (many parts of it is, especially considering much of it breaks down into "pew pew layzorz"), but part of her initial response to me was "that's not a thing for girls". I would like to point out that, at the time, she was the only female in the room. So that confused me for several hours...

2) Her attitude towards the subject was not just one of misunderstanding, but of actual repulsion. I have known several people who act this way towards the idea of wargaming, but not so overtly, and it has always made me wonder "What exactly about wargaming provokes this response"?

3) During the conversation she acknowledged that Airfix was a respectable hobby, and that strategy games like Risk and Chess were also good pastimes, but her response to the idea of combining the two was almost as if she found the idea offensive.

4) I have found this sort of reaction in many people, some of my friends included, and I have never understood why the reaction is nigh-universal to those who are largely detached from "nerdy" hobbies.

So, I suppose the real questions are, "Are these responses common?", and "What causes them?".

Dakka Forum: Unprecedented in the history of Warhammer 40k releases?

Posted: 2014-08-21 14:59:07
Forum post by Sir Arun, 171 responses at time of this post.

Wow. Just wow.

Two weeks after the release of the Space Wolves codex, GW is releasing the Grey Knights codex. Did anybody see this coming? I dont think there ever has been a time in the 25 year history of Warhammer 40k where two main army codexes were released in such short manner. Of course, one part of me is super excited - especially looking at that awesome cover art - but another part of me says this book is going to be an epic fail. I mean - let's face it - they are REMOVING all the non Grey Knight units from the book. That means Inquisitors, Karamazov, Valeria, Coteaz, all the henchmen, servitors, mystics, jokaeros, ....hell, even the assassins will be removed from the codex and only available as paid dataslate. What's more, the codex is most likely to follow the layout of 7th edition dexes, meaning NO ARTWORK in the bestiarum, no army list section, and the fluff in the bestiarum will be put in italics and crammed to the side to make it especially hard to read, making way for oversized pictures of the miniatures.

And given how rumors say there are no new kits with this release, my hopes of the codex actually introducing new Grey Knight units are very slim. So we're actually downgrading in this new codex? Hell, even the front cover artwork, upon closer inspection, isn't made by the same guy who made the artwork for most of the other codexes - you can already tell by how the Grey Knight lacks that realistic 3D feel that the other ones had.

What do you think?

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