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Post by: Solar_lion
Welcome back .. nice to see an update!
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Post by: Briancj
And now, for something completely different.
For scale purpose, that's almost four feet long.
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Post by: monkeytroll
Ooh, now that looks interesting....I'm presuming all those cool looking girders have been designed and laser-cut by you.
Either a zeppeln or a retro rocket-ship...I'll go for the first as more likely....
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Post by: Camkierhi
Well you don't do things by halfs do you!
Looking brilliant. What you going to use for a skin?
In the bad old days I used to make R/C planes with me Dad, and we used special paper and dope, just like they used circa. WWII, Would give you a very realalistic look, as it tightens across the strutts?
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Post by: inmygravenimage
Ooh... Dirigible?
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Post by: Briancj
No skin, this is an 'ahhht' project for a local Brewery. So, it'll hang from the ceiling with all the girders and beams exposed.
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Post by: Camkierhi
Well it's going to look sweet in that case.
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Post by: Briancj
I'm not dead, just resting. Here, have a project of mine, a prototype for a possible series of tabletop wargaming mega-structures.
Happy holidays, everyone!
--Brian
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Post by: RiTides
That is a Massive structure!
Merry Christmas and happy holidays to you, too
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Post by: monkeytroll
Hope you've been enjoying your rest.
Big ol' buildings are always cool. Are you considering the possibilities of connecting walkways between structures?
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Post by: Briancj
I wouldn't call it "rest", unless "rest" is a euphemism for "nine month depressive state".
I am considering many options:
Walkways.
Ruined/semi-ruined structures.
Structures with internal flooring.
Super-mega-structures (three or four feet tall, or more! Stackable!)
Supporting an 'air' level of acrylic three feet above the table, and then extending the buildings on top, to allow true "air combat" on a 40K scale.
Designing the buildings (magnets, velcro) to be taken apart for easy storage and reconfiguration.
--
Please, feel free to fire comments at me:
1) Suggestions.
2) Would you actually use such mega-structures?
3) If I post a structure, how much would you pay for it?
4) Would you pay a premium for pre-painted? If so, how much?
Thanks.
--Brian
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Post by: RandyMcStab
Good stuff, so have you got a laser cutter then?
I would use it in a game (and have used similar in my last mega bat rep) but I'm unsure what I might pay for it.
I think pre-painting is interesting and the cost would obviously be a big factor.
As an addition I think landing pads, roof top is a no brainer but if there's little topple factor, how about clip in ones extending from the side like a bracket fungus type thing..
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Post by: Camkierhi
Welcome back.
And back with a boom I see. Awesome.
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Post by: Gitsplitta
Wonderful to see you posting again Brian, it's been far too long!
Great job on the tower.
I think for the kind of gaming I do, 18" to 2" tall would be the maximum, though I really like the stacking idea. We've used some mass produced bunkers at an FLGS to stack in various ways to make modern "hab units" and it really works well because you can arrange them in a variety of different ways to make different looking structures.
Would definitely be interested in walk-ways and ruins w/floors as well as in-tact buildings. Would be willing to pay a bit more for a basic paint-job... just enough so you could call it decently painted and field it as-is, but not so much that it would drive the cost up significantly (say over 25%). I'm thinking a base coat plus some simple airbrushing to give it some depth & character. The less expensive the cost upgrade the better.
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Post by: shasolenzabi
Very nice ideas! Happy Holidays!
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Post by: monkeytroll
Well, that's a euphemism that I can well understand It's good to see you're getting some interest back now.
I think walkways and balconies would be important with such high buildings to increase playing surfaces - but then again, I haven't played for many, many moons and was always biased towards multi-level gaming back when I did.
The perspex aerial floor is a really interesting idea, although three feet sounds a little high to me, feels like it might be a litle awkward to move stuff around at that height above the table....
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Post by: inmygravenimage
The building is cool as, and from my perspective just now I'm all about the Prepaints walkways, particularly slightly wider ones for truly terrifying high up battles, would be neat. Also, great to have you back, buckaroo.
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Post by: Solar_lion
Happy Holidays and best wishes for a great next year!
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Post by: Briancj
Back...to the Future.
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Post by: Gitsplitta
I still have mine!
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Post by: Briancj
A BS of 1 means a 1 in 6 chance of hitting. (6)
A BS of 2 means a 2 in 6 chance of hitting. (5+)
A BS of 3 means a 3 in 6 chance of hitting. (4+)
And so on.
This has been your 40K history lesson for today.
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Post by: Gitsplitta
I feel smarter already!
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Post by: Briancj
As I read through the book that got me into 40k, back in 1987, I am reminded of how SMART Rick presumed his players were. Of course, this was also meant to be a game primarily played under the watchful eye of a GM. Such a different world!
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Post by: GiraffeX
Those were the days when the games were made for adults, I remember playing a Zoat warband they were rock hard.
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Post by: shasolenzabi
Ah, the nostalgia! also back when the game was more a skirmisher game of small units, I need to track down a copy of that old book!
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Post by: Solar_lion
IG robots!, Mole mortars and artwork with the phrase ' Kill, Kill, Kill' on marine Armor.
~sigh!~
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Post by: Briancj
And so, with the new year, I have a new focus. My goal is to run 40k the way it was meant to be played, with cool scenarios, neat terrain, and painted miniatures. Doesn't seem like much of a challenge, but with the tournament-dominated world of American Tabletop (this includes ALL tabletop, mind you, even X-Wing, Infinity and others...) people are not introduced to 'the other side of the fence'.
And that's where these bugs come into play. Picked up in a swap before Christmas, I've spent the past week working on them (and the two stands of trees). The trees were the grey plastic version, but a little spraypaint goes a long way to restoring their true colours.
The bugs were primed white and ink washed. WITH TWENTY-SEVEN YEAR OLD INKS. Yeah, damn straight those Ral Partha paint pots still work. F-U, Citadel.
Anyways. Enjoy my bugs, ready to pop out and annoy the hell out of some players.
--B.
My Jungle Bugs! ('Oh-ee-oh-ee-oh!')
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Post by: AnUnearthlyChilde
Is it just me, or did people miss me so much in my two year absence that they all started bugs?
*tuts*
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Post by: Briancj
It is true. And you heard the psychic scream, and were drawn back here, like a proper bug hive mind.
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Post by: AnUnearthlyChilde
Haha, nice to know I was missed lol.
Love the work, and, well, damn they are bright. Tbh its nice to see people take big leaps with bugs colour schemes really, too many play it safe. that is a compliment, I swear...
I'm attempting to sort out a list of hilarious proportions for my bugs, which will take a little time to gather the parts, but its really for gaming fun tbh.
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Post by: Briancj
I'm childe of the 80's, back when everything was bright and glorious. Grimdark!
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Post by: AnUnearthlyChilde
Yeah, fair point... ah the glorious age of Red, when tyranid warriors were derptastic and hive tyrants were tinier than a dreadnought O.o
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Post by: Briancj
Back then, EVERYTHING was smaller. Metal was expensive. And they were larger than the original Imperial Dreadnought Suits!
Anyways, thanks for the complements! I do not expect to add to this 'nid collection, I'm just having fun painting miniatures for the sake of painting miniatures, and building up some small skirmish forces for scenario gaming.
And, while I respect people who paint their bugs like Earth insects....they're not from earth! PAINT DIFFERENT. My hero is whomever painted the cel-shaded pink ad green ' ids on this site. So creepy.
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Post by: AnUnearthlyChilde
Very very true...
And yes, exactly, bugs aren't even from our galaxy... but, everyone has their take on them tbh. Mine is one of natural colours, and that the hive fleet would adapt the colours of their creations to suit the enviroment of the prey world. in the case of tunnelling bugs, why bother giving them a colour when they tunnel etc.
And lol yes, those bugs make me need sunshades though :/
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Post by: Briancj
I like your yellow mottled carapaces. They look good and appropriately bug-y.
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Post by: AnUnearthlyChilde
Yeah, I should really paint more... can't genuinely remember when I last painted a bug... :/
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Post by: shasolenzabi
I have one lone Lictor painted in a shark/dogfish color pattern
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Post by: Briancj
I may buy one "big" bug, like a Lictor or something, if I see one cheap, or get it in trade.
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Post by: Gitsplitta
Love them Brian. just love them! So old school & so fundamental in their nature and make-up.
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Post by: AnUnearthlyChilde
A Lictor is hardly a big bug... :-/
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Post by: Briancj
Yeah, see, I'm old-school. This whole 7th edition kaiju BS doesn't do anything for me. All of a sudden, it's become rock-em sock-em robots in 40K, and I find it to be magnificently BORING.
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Post by: AnUnearthlyChilde
Haha fair enough, though there isn't much I don't like with bugs tbh. I think the toxicrene is possibly the main one I dislike... Just looks stupid.
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Post by: Briancj
How about a WiP?
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Post by: Gitsplitta
Like the way the flyer is looking!
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Post by: AnUnearthlyChilde
What Gits said, only with added gribbly noises
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Post by: Briancj
I brought the red panels up to color, then washed them with my old friend "Soft Body Black". Next up is to bring the white panels from primer brown to white, with an intermediate step of light grey. Then it'll be black, windows, and metallics, finished off with a few decals and some work on the ground/dirt to match the rest of my usual terrain.
I feel like I am some early 2000's throwback, using dry brushing and static grass. Better than sawdust and Goblin Green, I suppose.
--B.
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Post by: Veteran Sergeant
Solar_lion wrote:IG robots!, Mole mortars and artwork with the phrase ' Kill, Kill, Kill' on marine Armor.
~sigh!~
Too many Ls.
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More WiP, more red paint.
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Post by: inmygravenimage
Ah, you're breaking out the flyers again. Excellent!
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Post by: Briancj
Well, the crashed ones, anyways.
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Post by: monkeytroll
Crashed ones with signs of 'nid infestation? Or just plain ol' crashed ones?
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Post by: Briancj
Crashed ones, painted in the same red-white scheme as my other flyers. I'm moving to standardize my various pieces parts.
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A little whitewashing...and my toes.
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Post by: AnUnearthlyChilde
ewwwwwwwwww :S
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Post by: Dr H
Good to see you back to modelling, Brian.
Look forward to progress.
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Post by: Gitsplitta
Excellent work Brian. That'll be a centerpiece on any gaming table!
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The dance begins anew.
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Post by: inmygravenimage
Looking grand mate. Let's make sure there's an accident on that thing
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Post by: AnUnearthlyChilde
Reminds me of the bridge at nihmegahn/rhimegan(?) can't spell for toffee this morning it seems...
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Post by: Gitsplitta
Nice bridge!
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Post by: shasolenzabi
Nice title rename for thread, made a great movie and showed the allies were also able to make mistakes, where other war movies made the allies out as infallible superheroes.
Had old propaganda fueled war movies been right, WWII would have ended by Christmas of '44!
Bridge is looking very sweet man!
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Post by: Hruotland
A bridge is so much a great centerpiece for a gaming table, all the auto-narrative possibilities: going over, going under, crossing, denying, covering, exposing, defending, conquering, destroying, securing... Is it scratch or model railway?
btw childe, it's "Nijmegen", spoken more or less "Nay-may-rrrhen". But the "Bridge to far" was in Arnhem.
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Post by: shasolenzabi
The seizing of bridges in that region under German occupation was very ambitious, Monty went past what his assets were ready for, had they moved XXX cops further up before the event it may have given an idea something was up, but then they may have arrived in time to relieve the paras at Arnhem.
Still the riveted steel beam bridge is very likeable for the center of a table!
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Post by: Briancj
It is one of my laser-cut bridges for a possible terrain company.
--B.
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Post by: shasolenzabi
Briancj wrote:It is one of my laser-cut bridges for a possible terrain company.
--B.
You are gonna make laser cut terrain? That bridge shows major promise then! let us all know so we can help you with making orders for stuff!
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Post by: AnUnearthlyChilde
Hruotland wrote:A bridge is so much a great centerpiece for a gaming table, all the auto-narrative possibilities: going over, going under, crossing, denying, covering, exposing, defending, conquering, destroying, securing... Is it scratch or model railway?
btw childe, it's "Nijmegen", spoken more or less "Nay-may-rrrhen". But the "Bridge to far" was in Arnhem.
Much appreciated, dyslexia is an arse, especially when you haven't heard the word in a while lol!
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Post by: Briancj
Yes, I have a laser cutter with a 2 foot by 4 foot bed. And the US Post Office has started carrying "Board Game" sixed boxes. This means I can lay out "mega structures" AND ship them.
So I'm looking for terrain ideas that other people are not doing. I'm also looking at non-GW systems, as well as a line of "civilian" vehicles, to support scenario-based gaming.
--B.
(Note: The sides and roadbed of that bridge are single pieces. It is wide enough, and tall enough, to clear a Land Raider.
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Post by: alabamaheretic
very cool looking stuff brian. i actually just picked up some bugs my self too. i dig your bugs, that bridge looks great i could use a couple in my city for sure! good lookin aquila as well.
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Post by: monkeytroll
Nice work on the crash site.
Bridge looks good - good design, simple and effective to build with minimal parts - reckon you're onto a winner there Bri
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Post by: Gitsplitta
Briancj wrote:Yes, I have a laser cutter with a 2 foot by 4 foot bed. And the US Post Office has started carrying "Board Game" sixed boxes. This means I can lay out "mega structures" AND ship them.
So I'm looking for terrain ideas that other people are not doing. I'm also looking at non- GW systems, as well as a line of "civilian" vehicles, to support scenario-based gaming.
--B.
(Note: The sides and roadbed of that bridge are single pieces. It is wide enough, and tall enough, to clear a Land Raider.
Awesome... Nice thing is it's not overdone so the buyer can Imp or Ork it up as they see fit.
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Post by: shasolenzabi
Briancj wrote:Yes, I have a laser cutter with a 2 foot by 4 foot bed. And the US Post Office has started carrying "Board Game" sixed boxes. This means I can lay out "mega structures" AND ship them.
So I'm looking for terrain ideas that other people are not doing. I'm also looking at non- GW systems, as well as a line of "civilian" vehicles, to support scenario-based gaming.
--B.
(Note: The sides and roadbed of that bridge are single pieces. It is wide enough, and tall enough, to clear a Land Raider.
Well, decently priced generic sci-fi or other genre scenery is always good, be they intact and or ruined buildings and other items.
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Post by: AnUnearthlyChilde
Something eldar-y, so I can throw money at you!
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Post by: Briancj
And so, our reluctant hero brush-primes foam terrain, while spray-priming bits. A bevy of barrels and barriers sets to be added to the "Battlefield Junk Bin", for future encounters.
I have also started to try and sort out the mess that is my miniatures collection. Everything is in boxes. Most of these boxes are even labelled! But I have so much STUFF, that it is hard to concentrate on what truly needs to be done.
So, I get to pull everything out and inventory.
Won't that be fun?
Send alcohol, gift cards for massages.
--B.
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Massages, or "massages"?
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Post by: Gitsplitta
I'm with you Brian. Just sooooo much stuff. It's been a struggle but I'm slowly cleaning house. Sold two armies, nearly done with another though unsure about ultimate disposition. Given away a lot of things as competition prizes too. Sat down and decided that I'd be painting those things that seemed the most fun and the heck with the rest... at least for a time.
Nasty business this hobbying...
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Post by: AnUnearthlyChilde
Hah, I can attest to that Brian and Gits, especially after photographing all the stuff I've acquires over the missing years I'd been away from dakka.
Plus there's all the stuff I had before... Blerg...
...I definitely need foam trays before anything else gets broken
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Post by: Briancj
Well, I can honestly say that the move on GW's part to 'limited edition' miniatures, as well as the giant robot/monstrous creature bashes have really put me off of 21st century 40K. My hopes of ever playing again are pretty damn dim.
So, that puts me into pure hobby mode, I guess.
Here's the next round of 'things I am painting, for reasons really unknown to me at this time."
The radar dishes are off of a 3D printer. Dunno where they came from, they just showed up during a cleanup at the makerspace. No one else wanted them, so I scooped them up!
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Post by: AnUnearthlyChilde
Briancj wrote:Well, I can honestly say that the move on GW's part to 'limited edition' miniatures, as well as the giant robot/monstrous creature bashes have really put me off of 21st century 40K. My hopes of ever playing again are pretty damn dim.
Boo and hiss at you sir...
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Post by: Briancj
I live in the US, Childe. Finding people who want to play like the Brits is REALLY. HARD.
Also, isn't it, like, 4am where you are?
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Post by: Gitsplitta
You paint them because they're cool... and that's a good enough reason for anyone.
And please remember to come visit us here-a-bouts the next time you're in the neighborhood. We'd all be delighted to see you!
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Post by: AnUnearthlyChilde
Briancj wrote:I live in the US, Childe. Finding people who want to play like the Brits is REALLY. HARD.
Also, isn't it, like, 4am where you are?
It's now 5am lol... insomnia
I didn't really think about that tbh, I know your Usa due to the little flag wotsit lol, but yeah... hmmm issues...
Gitsplitta wrote:You paint them because they're cool... and that's a good enough reason for anyone.
And please remember to come visit us here-a-bouts the next time you're in the neighborhood. We'd all be delighted to see you!
Aimed at me Gits or Brian?
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Brian, not that we wouldn't enjoy seeing you too!
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Pft... and with that, I'ma sleep
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Post by: RandyMcStab
Makes me want to deep strike my Red Beret Stormtroopers on it (or at least nearish).
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RandyMcStab wrote:Makes me want to deep strike my Red Beret Stormtroopers on it (or at least nearish).
My work here is done. Automatically Appended Next Post: Let's jump on the Bandwagon!
--[ 2014 ]--
The year started out very well. I was employed, I had made MAJOR progress on my cityfight table, I was kitbashing a Thunderhawk Transporter, and things were great.
Then, all hell broke loose, and I slipped into a depressive state that I am only just now climbing out of. 2014 was a lost year.
But, let's note what I got done, shall we?
Cityfight Table to 75% The GW buildings need detail work done, and the Necromunda terrain needs some plastic bitz added for support and finishing touches.
Thunderhawk Transporter 50% done. This poor beast has had the crap kicked out of it, and needs a lot of repairs and upgrades.
Stormraven Chapterhouse conversion 50% done. Same abuse, needs work, paint, love.
Painted a lot of horses.
Learned digital fabrication (Vinyl Cutter, Laser Cutter, 3D Printing).
Bought a fresh copy of the original Warhammer 40K: Rogue Trader for inspiration.
Started tackling my depression head-on.
Annnnd what went wrong.
Lost my 40K group to apathy.
Arse-fethed by the Imperial Guard Codex (more on how much this hurt in a later post).
Got excited by 7th edition, only to be taken down by the direction of GW (Kaiju fighting over limited edition miniatures).
--[ 2015 ]--
So, what's in store for 2015, in terms of gaming? Well, aside from continuing to climb back into the light, we've already:
Started the groundwork for a new tabletop miniatures group.
Bought into X-Wing.
Painted a skirmish group of bugs.
Painted two tree stands.
Painted a crashed aquila lander.
Started the work on a new themed terrain/scenario table.
Started a pile of other small terrain projects.
I want to start a scenario/narrative-based website with forums, to support my view of the tabletop hobby. There's already tons of sites dedicated to competitive wargaming. The other side needs representation. It will be called 'The Iron Road".
I want to get a tabletop wargaming group started locally. I will need to advertise in game stores, and on Dakka, for like-minded folks.
I want to paint a miniature a day, and clear my massive backlog.
I want to purge my 40K stuff down to what I truly care about. This means eBay and trading.
I want to PLAY GAMES. This is very important.
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Post by: GiraffeX
Looks very nice, is the river going to run the length of the board?
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Post by: Briancj
I am learning how to use the makerspace's woodshop. My success criteria: Walking out every time with all 10 fingers.
While this table was built for Model Railroading, it is a folding 4x6 table, which is the perfect portable gaming table, and can be stored under a bed, etc. It cost me $50 USD to build, and about 8 hours of time, total.
Materials list:
4 8' 2x3 boards
1 4'x8' 15/32nd thick plywood
3 Hinges
1 Handle
#2 1" zinc wood screws
Wood glue
If wanted, I'll write an article about it. Thoughts?
--B.
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Post by: Camkierhi
Looks great. Nice size.
Couple ideas/suggestions/questions to throw at you...
Why not MDF (masonite)? Same properties but smoother finish. For the surfaces.
Could make it in different sizes, 3ft x 3ft. upwards. I believe people play Deadzone, infinity, Starwars on at little as 2 x 2.
What about making a lining to actually carry your army/team/models in the table itself, kind of a portable battle game all in one?
These are just thoughts, it looks brilliant as is, and I definately think you should share it in an article for people to see.
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Post by: shasolenzabi
Folding bit is cool idea!
Bridge is looking Beeyooteefull!
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Post by: Briancj
There are a lot of options that can be done. I chose plywood because I will be putting 2" of foam over the top, so mdf is contra-indicated.
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Post by: Camkierhi
Cool idea. Like it. And in that case you are spot on.
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Post by: Gitsplitta
Very cool Brian. Makes me think of a portable display board. Hmmm.
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Post by: dsteingass
Well, I had a few pages to catch up on. I'm glad you're feeling better. Good to see what you're up to. Great bridge, except it currently lacks rivets It will be your White Album when it's done.
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Post by: Galorn
Glad you are back to building and such like. You know im up for scenario stuff over the "current meta"
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Post by: AnUnearthlyChilde
Looks good so far, I was considering something similar for a while tbh
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Post by: inmygravenimage
Magnificent work sunshine
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So, uh, nice knowing you all.
--B.
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Post by: Briancj
We're about to eat three feet of snow in 24 hours.
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Oops, didn't realise your location
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Post by: Gitsplitta
If it helps, I'm getting snows on my car this afternoon.
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Post by: AnUnearthlyChilde
Well, the only advice I have for you both is to make like a bug and devour your bodyweight in food, then hibernate during your isolation in the void... I mean snow.
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Post by: inmygravenimage
Yeah, saw the weather warning, stay safe and warm brother.
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Post by: Galorn
and aapparently another foot on monday...
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Oh, hey! How ya been? Good, good. Yeah, me too. So, uh. Let's just get into it. This is post 3101.
Garbage Dumpsters. These have been painted with Krylon's "Stainless Steel" spray, which actually contains stainless steel flakes. It is pretty fun to play with.
These are laser-cut pallets. Both these and the dumpsters are from Warsenal. A small abandoned fuel dump objective/terrain piece is next to them.
3D printed radar dishes, also with a coat of stainless. Few details on these, as I will be adding them to other buildings/structures.
A bunch of WiP:
The barriers were hit with stainless, and then rust powders have been added, and can be seen in the pictures below.
Have some hot hot "Ambush on the Iron Road" action.
Enjoy!
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Post by: monkeytroll
Yay - he's burrowed out from under the snow!
Like those dumpsters, and nice effect from that stainless spray.
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Post by: Gitsplitta
Beautiful work on the bridge Brian. Very impressive.
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Post by: inmygravenimage
Busy boy. Let's have a sprint to page 100!
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Post by: Briancj
Well, given how much snow is in the forecast for the next 48 hours, I suspect I may be spending some time at HOME.
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And then THIS happened...
--B.
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Post by: Solar_lion
Very Cool .. I've been playing with various artificial plants for Fish tanks. They utilize so many different colors and textures. Nice to see you pull it off.
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Post by: Briancj
I am finding that hitting them with dullcote helps, but what really works is to add them to other terrain. Rocks, logs, scenic bases.
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Post by: GiraffeX
They look very cool, I've often thought about using them.
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Post by: Gitsplitta
The only thing that would be better... is if the rhino were actually a functioning planter with soil and a live plant inside.
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Post by: Briancj
Sanity is over rated in the Gits household. I refuse to have to water my terrain!
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Post by: Dr H
Nice work Brian. Very effective.
I have thought about building a bonsai tree into some terrain to add that extra element of realism. It'll be a while before I get around to attempting it though.
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Post by: Briancj
I have two more pieces completed today, that need the light of day to photograph. More jungle, more old-school terrain madness.
So, let's see how we're doing.
Mnis:
8 Spore mines
12 'gants
6 'stealers
Terrain:
'nid terrain
Two GW jungle treelines
Fuel cache
Pallets
Dumpsters
Crashed Shuttle
Wrecked Rhinos
Two Jungle ruins
Two bridge board sections
GW barriers
So thst's 26 minis, and 11 terrain pieces. If I count the medium terrain pieces as 3 models and the large as 5, then we're at 26 'days' of minis and 29 'days' of terrain, for a total of 55 days. Here is is, Feb 17th, or 48 days in. I'm good with counting myself 'ahead' for the year!
--B.
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Post by: inmygravenimage
There needs to be a fish in that tank. Klaus, maybe.
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Post by: Briancj
I assure you, childe, that I sing that song every time I work on Jungle terrain.
That, and "Welcome to the Jungle".
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Post by: AnUnearthlyChilde
You had me until you mentioned guns and roses... Then you lost me in disgust...
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Not my fault you are an uncultured heretic, childe.
More Jungle Love (oh ee oh ee oh):
And all of my jungle terrain, so far:
I really need to get my lightbox and camera set back up.
Anyways, enjoy!
--B.
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I like it!
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Post by: Solar_lion
Wonderful. I need to get going on mine. Good inspiration.
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Post by: bebopdrums2424
Nice Jungle Terrain Brian! There is never enough Jungle terrain in the world! Looks like fun to have a good Catachan Battle on it...keep it up
BB
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Briancj wrote:
Second Platoon, Able Company, consists of a Command Squad, an engineering squad, a commissary squad, and a full set of Fire Teams. Its role is to set up in the rear, building up a firebase to support the rest of the Company. A Techmarine is frequently assigned to this Platoon, as well as a Commissar. Specialized Chimera variants accompany the support squads, but these are assigned for roles, as opposed to giving the platoon mobility.
Good luck with a techmarine in an IG army, you mean techpriest!
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Post by: Warboss_Waaazag
Nice jungle terrain.
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Post by: Briancj
The day I have feared has arrived. My Reaper Bones 2 order arrived.
I have a SERIOUS miniatures problem.
--B.
Automatically Appended Next Post: TIME FOR A MINI RANT.
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Thank you, Game Workshop, for totally ass-fething the Imperial Guard. The excuse of "IP protection" made you strip away everything that was good and holy about my army.
What you gave us:
New orders that are mostly useless.
A gakky transport we didn't need.
A gakky sub-codex that could have easily been part of the main codex. OH WAIT, IT IS.
A gakky artillery vehicle whose model is just ANOTHER model, without barrels.
The ability to, finally, take tanks as HQ. But no tank-as-troop options to allow a proper armoured company.
New stormtrooper models, because you had to support the aforementioned gakky codex.
What you took away from us:
Properly independent Commissars.
Thematic mission-oriented stormtroopers. Now we have to buy a platoon of them, and they're just upgraded veterans.
Every awesome special character, because you don't have models for them.
Every awesome army build centered around a special character.
Vendetta's troop compartment for no good reason. Sorry, AM, you can't have one of the best flyers in the game, anymore.
Basilisks that can direct-fire.
All the other artillery pieces.
Any model with the 'interceptor' rule built-in. Flakk missiles don't count, they're being given to everyone.
Any model with outflank, save for gak-ass scout sentinels, who are walkers who STILL CANNOT TAKE A SECOND WEAPON.
The Leman Russ' ability to shoot ordinance and fire everything else as well, even as snap-fire.
The ability for a Heavy Weapons Team to fire a lasgun in addition to the heavy weapon.
And, lastly, our NAME.
What you haven't given us, but you've given everyone else:
Cool non-brb psychic powers.
Dataslates.
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And why is this?
Because someone at GW decided do demote the Guard to 'Allies' status. gak you buy to support your Space Marines.
Die. In. A. Fire.
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Post by: AnUnearthlyChilde
Lol... Ok I don't think they are as bad as your making out, but I did find your rant amusing lol.
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Post by: Gitsplitta
Wonderful rant... one of your best.
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Post by: Solar_lion
It's a gift. Yes.. it's particularly good!
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Post by: Galorn
Awesome rant, also very nice terrain.
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Post by: inmygravenimage
Spot on there mate. Glad I got out of guard when I did, sadly. I like being a minority weirdo with my SoB, at least I expect bugger all
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Post by: Briancj
I may have come up with the greatest 2000 point Warhammer 40,000 army ever fielded.
HQ Lord Commissar with "The Emperor's Benediction".
TR1 and TR2 10-man Veteran Squad with camo gear, snare mines and autocannon.
EL1, 2, and 3 10 Bullgryn squads.
FA1, 2, and 3 10-man Roughriders (2x melta each).
The Lord Commissar wields 2 pistols and is mounted on a fancy horse.
The Bullgryns are mounted on heavy horse (Ogryn-sized, and based) with cannoneer shields. (shields with a cannon built in)
The Roughriders are mounted on light horse with their usual lances and such.
The two troops are kitted out to be royal engineers, with camo shields, mines, etc.
All are Praetorians.
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A dragoon of Lancers! I approve!
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Post by: Hruotland
Ah shouldn't it be a "lance of dragoons"? Or am I lost in translation" (ein Fähnlein Dragoner"?) Nevertheless I approve too.Style and profile has always been much more important to me on the board than mathhammer. (WHOOOO!)
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The Emperor's Own Dragoons are now a reality.
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Post by: shasolenzabi
I still prefer the 33dollar IG codex with characters, that can be custom built by some, and 3rd party sculpts exist out there you can get, or older minis still circulating.
Taurox looks like a saturday morning kid show clown cart to me.
Astra Militarum,,,,,,,I wave my wand and shout that for some Harry Potter effects
Astra Militarum is as vanilla as it gets.
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Post by: Briancj
It really is. They stripped out everything wonderful, and made it bland bland bland. Boring. Dull.
Everyone else? Cool powers, dataslates, thematic shift, new models.
DIAF, GW.
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Post by: shasolenzabi
Briancj wrote:It really is. They stripped out everything wonderful, and made it bland bland bland. Boring. Dull.
Everyone else? Cool powers, dataslates, thematic shift, new models.
DIAF, GW.
My Khadrovians will carry on with the codex that suits them
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Post by: Solar_lion
Briancj wrote:It really is. They stripped out everything wonderful, and made it bland bland bland. Boring. Dull.
Everyone else? Cool powers, dataslates, thematic shift, new models.DIAF, GW.
We'll not everyone.. the Ork codex IMO is sub par, The BA codex went uber plain jane. I'll still use the small contingent of IG ( AM or TS ) I have as a supporting detachment.
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Post by: Briancj
Rick Priestley's recent FB commentary on GW really hit the nail on the head. There's no game dev going on there, anymore.
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Post by: shasolenzabi
Briancj wrote:Rick Priestley's recent FB commentary on GW really hit the nail on the head. There's no game dev going on there, anymore.
Link? I would want to read it if it is still up
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Post by: shasolenzabi
Briancj wrote:http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2015/03/rick-priestley-talks-games-workshop.html
You can find Rick on Facebook for the original.
Thanks, it is amazing when a guy who was in there says what he said. Golgafringians have taken over GW
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I have a problem.
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Oh good heavens!
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Post by: shasolenzabi
Dat is a flood of minis!
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Post by: monkeytroll
Nice little haul there, the big gribblies look very tempting.
There's a problem somewhere
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Yeah, the problem is that I never got around to painting the FIRST wave of these...
...or my Robotech minis...
...or...
Etc.
I AM A MINIATURES HOARDER.
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Post by: shasolenzabi
If it's any consolation Bri, I have nearly 100 Defiance troopers to paint, I have CDF troopers to paint, more brother vinni stuff to paint, and have more models on the way!!!!
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Post by: Solar_lion
Brian.. no rush .. thios should be fun. beside your planning to live forever right?
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Post by: inmygravenimage
How very careless of you
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Post by: Dr H
Just think of the hours of fun you will have... moving the boxes around, arranging them, imagining all the things that could be built from them...
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Post by: GiraffeX
Wow that's impressive, will keep you occupied for a long time...
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Post by: weetyskemian44
I just read your rant and googled "Taurox". Damn thats a silly looking truck. Too bad for the imperials. I guess there really is no god emperor. (I realise I'm behind the times on this, but I genuinely never saw one before).
Wow look at all those bones. What a trove.
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Post by: shasolenzabi
weetyskemian44 wrote:I just read your rant and googled "Taurox". Damn thats a silly looking truck. Too bad for the imperials. I guess there really is no god emperor. (I realise I'm behind the times on this, but I genuinely never saw one before).
Wow look at all those bones. What a trove.
Now folks can see why the "Taurox" is equated with a refugee from a Saturday morning cartoon in it's design. I have seen some decent conversions of it so it looks less silly, less cartoony. I prefer other transports to the silly thing.
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Post by: Solar_lion
My problem with the Taurox is that it's way too small. It Looks like a cereal box toy! Who's approvong this stuff at GW... 10 year olds?
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Post by: Briancj
I may have also, accidentally, ordered a metric assload of praetorian-style bitz from Curious Constructs and Victoria Miniatures.
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Post by: shasolenzabi
Briancj wrote:I may have also, accidentally, ordered a metric assload of praetorian-style bitz from Curious Constructs and Victoria Miniatures.
Praetorian style IG you say? First rank fire! 2nd rank fire! first rank reload!
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Cavalry does not 'rank up'.
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Cannons to the right of us! Cannons to the left! Ours is not to reason why, ours is but to do or die, onward road the 600!
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Post by: Briancj
It is okay if I send 30 3W T5 SV3+ models running at your lines, right?
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Post by: monkeytroll
It's not hoarding Brian - you'll find a real need for some of those part in a few years, and then you'll be ever so glad that you have them to and and don't need to wait for another delivery
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Yeah your Model preping.
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Post by: Briancj
Once again, I'd like to point out Curious Constructs. Run by Col. Gravis and company, they produce a FINE line of amusing miniatures and conversion parts.
Affordable, fast, low flash, good detailing.
https://curiousconstructs.theslowcentury.com/ocart/
Another fine supply drop, of heads, torsos, and rough riders.
Thanks, Rob!
--B.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Please note:
All of my Valkyries/Vendettas are piloted by an elite team of an Engineseer and a Primaris Psyker. Yes, this is in a legal army.
I think I have to paint all of them black, with a light grey "Omega" decal on the wings...
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Post by: inmygravenimage
B5 themed army? That could actually work really well. Infantry in GROPOS colours etc.
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Post by: Briancj
Hi, kids! Give me some help.
One of these is made with a standard IG Cadian torso. The other is made with an empire knight torso.
Let me know which looks better.
Ogryn for scale purposes.
Thanks!
Cadian:
Knight:
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Knight
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Post by: KommissarKiln
Using Cadian will probably give the army a more consistent look and feel... I don't think it would get too uniform, but that's just me.
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As a note, the REST of the army will be in Praetorian/Mordian-style tunics, no vests/armor visible.
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Post by: inmygravenimage
Cadian. Much to my surprise, I might add.
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Bumping for input from my Adepticon-returned friends.
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Post by: Gitsplitta
Sorry Brian... still recovering and half-dazed. They look good but the horses seem a little small for the size of the rider. Maybe it's just the angle.
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Noted here for future reference, I can charge $12.99 for a pack of 100 1" clear acrylic bases, and make a decent amount of money on it.
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What else am I supposed to do, while babysitting a laser cutter for 8 hours overnight?
Why, prime and paint all of my Battletech miniatures!
The hard part, in all honesty, is trying to group up the miniatures into Lances that balance out, and represent all five major IS houses. So I've been banging away on a spreadsheet to help me figure it out. Almost done, too!
It's like magic, only with little numbers in little boxes.
I may need sleep.
--B.
PS: The three Clan miniatures are helping. They're helpers.
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Post by: RandyMcStab
The Clan could be 'Wolf's Dragoons' they were Inner Sphere helpers eventually.
That's a lot of Mechs! Plastic? I've got a few plastics and 2 boxes of metals (plus some Elementals) but nothing like that!
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Yeah, two introductory box sets, plus all eight of the new plastic lance sets. And some extras from the before time.
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Post by: monkeytroll
That's a healthy chunk of mechs you have there
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Post by: inmygravenimage
That was not what I expected. Still, as long as there's all the mad cats and atlases in the world(s), who cares?
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What were you expecting?
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Wow Brian... that's a really impressive mech cache you have there.
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Post by: Briancj
And so, with another overnight laser cutting bonanza completed, let's see what Brian has accomplished.
He has a spreadsheet of all his 'mecha, broken down by era, class, tonnage, points (Battletech AND Alpha Strike) and House.
He has used this spreadsheet to sort his mechs into a Light, Medium, Heavy, and Assault lance for each House.
He has started painting.
Say hello to the House of Liao, aka the Capellan Confederation. You may read about them here: http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Capellan_Confederation
One of the great things about this scale is that you can drybrush and wash the hell out of them, and they look good. B'tech minis paint FAST. If you want to hyper-detail them, great. Go for it. There are even decals. But if you want to get tabletop ready in a hurry, bang zing pow.
These have been basecoasted, washed, drybrushed base, and drybrushed with highlights. Sorry for the cellphone WiP.
Oh, and by the way. I AM, IN FACT, USING ORIGINAL 80'S ERA BATTLETECH RAL PARTHA PAINTS AND INKS. AND THEY'RE STILL GOOD.
Suck it, GW.
"Why, yes. I am very sure that I have the most accurate paint color for my 'mechs."
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Post by: Nevelon
Nice mechs. At some point battletech got a little crazy and over the top. The classic version was the best IMHO. I think I might have some old Ral Partha paints in a box somewhere. They were my first starter set. I should check if they still have any life in them.
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Post by: Briancj
I really have no plans to play anything other than Classic and Classic Alpha Strike. Automatically Appended Next Post: Gotta wear the right shirt, to paint battlemechs.
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Post by: inmygravenimage
Nice heat track. You look... cool.
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Post by: RandyMcStab
Sweet where is that from?
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Post by: Briancj
It is from Armorclass10.com, a fine nerd shop owned by a friend of mine.
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Post by: Stormwall
That is some great gear you are wearing there.
Buddy just got me into Btech. It is glorious. I got hooked first game in. My GF is buying me the 25th anniversary box set but I have two Commandos, and a Flea atm. (Waiting on more from the mail.) I also purchased some of the "unseen" models. I love Btechs movement and shooting, also the rules. It feels a lot more sturdy than W40k.
Long way of saying "subbed." haha.
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Post by: Briancj
Welcome.
As they used to say on a certain TV show, "...and the rest!"
A set of lances for my personal favorite of the five houses, House Kurita, aka the Draconis Combine. You may read about them here: http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Draconis_Combine
How about some Federated Suns goodness? The scions of House Davion can be found here: http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Federated_Suns
Moving on, here's that glorious Marik Purple, which means I have the most accurate 'mech paint outside of Catalyst Labs... Enjoy the might of the Free Worlds League: http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Free_Worlds_League
Finally, the female-led House of the Inner Sphere, the men, women, and mechs of the Lyran Alliance, House Steiner: http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Lyran_Commonwealth
Again, apologies for the cellphone pics.
Up next, details, canopies, numbers, weapons, crests, and individualization. I may be insane enough to create 80 pilot names, as well. Who knows?
--Brian
PS: Some day you'll find it, the rainbow connection...
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Post by: RandyMcStab
Cool, Kurita was always my fav too, I have the Scenario/Sourcebook for the invasion of their homeworld..pretty awesome..I only painted like one lance of them however.
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Post by: Nevelon
That is a lot of mechs. Looking good!
/covet
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Post by: Solar_lion
All I remember was playing the early video game.
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Some laser-cut tokens and markers for today's cityfight scrum. the 'target' tokens represent Strategy Points, which in the campaign can be saved as victory points, or risked to gain benefits on the battlefield...
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Post by: Briancj
I AM STILL ALIVE. And running a 40k campaign, which has interested players!
I'm just way, WAY behind on painting.
I did, however, manage to document and sort almost a thousand fantasy RPG miniatures. BIG achievement there, compressed 4 boxes of stuff into 2 boxes WITH documentation.
--B.
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Post by: Gitsplitta
So... what is the premise of your campaign?
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Tell us more. Show us pics. Crush your enemies, see them driven bef... you know the rest!
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+++ 4 850 995 M41 +++ //The Gothic Sector//
It was in this year that the Warp Storm around Fallon's Reach cleared, and an insigificant crusade was added to the annals of Imperial History. Twenty thousand years previous, the system of Fallon's Reach was reclaimed by the Imperium, during the golden Age of Man. Eight planets, all rich in resources, contributed a hefty tithe to the Imperium for thousands of years. Men, machines. Food and technology.
And then, Heresy.
Ten thousand years before now, the system become a piviotal point. War came to Fallon's Reach. Brother against Brother. Chaos against Iron Hands. Guard slaughtering Guard.
And then, a moment. Something occured, something hideous. The system erupted with the foul energies of the Immaterium. Warpstorms erupted throughout the system, destroying planets, changing orbits, scouring atmospheres.
Fallon's Reach was cut off from the galaxy. Mostly.
For a hundred years, the Tau have traded with the system. Their technology, unaffected by the Warp, sees the system as reachable. And, for the Greater Good, the system known to this race as Sh'al'tri has been very, very profitable.
Now.
The storms end. Psychic beacons lance outwards once more, reaching known space. Pyskers relay contacts. Forces mobilize, within and without.
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Dark malevolence reacquires a focus.
A grey strike cruiser alters course.
A clan of iron returns to their past.
The greater good prepares.
A system's defenders begin to pray.
...and something...hungers.
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"Magos, it is my grim duty to inform you that the initial reports on the re-opening of Fallon's Reach are...disturbing."
Fallon's Reach was a Class One star system, orbiting a habital G-Series stellar body, with no known fluctations. At the time contact was lost due to a sudden, and powerful, immaterium flux there were eight planets in the system.
Stellae Gistium - G-Series stellar body.
Abeti - Rocky dwarf, various sub-surface mining installations.
Spindle - Rocky dwarf, oblong, Imperial Fleet Main Garrison.
Vanholme - Agri World.
Fieldsveld - Agri World.
Luminos - Gas Giant, 33 moons and moonlets. Various refining and mining stations, Fleet Repair Base.
Tiara - Ice World, Hive World.
Seven - Rocky world, large promethium deposits, facilities.
Distaff - Rocky dwarf, Imperial Research Facility.
Initial reports sent back, and cross-referenced to each other, indicate the following changes, including how the local populace refers to various system bodies.
Stellae Gistium - G-Series stellar body.
Scorch - Rocky dwarf, abandoned. Scans indicate a large section of the planet was blown outwards, forming a small asteroid ring trailing the planet.
The Spindle - The Imperial Fleet base is referred to as Grave's End.
Vanholme - Agri World, mostly undamaged. Inhabited, appears to be Imperial-friendly.
Sorrow - Deathworld, Ash wastes. Inhabited, unknown populace.
Luminos - Gas giant, 27 moons and moonlets. Unknown how many of the previous facilities are operable.
The Churn - Asteroid belt.
Seven - Abandoned, possible that promethium facilities are to some extent intact.
Note that the eighth body appears to be no longer present.
The worlds of Vanholme and Sorrow now share a nearly identical orbit. Once every 428 Imperial Standard days, the planets come close enough to each other to allow ships that could normally not escape the gravity well to 'flip flop' between the two planets. Additionally, long-ranged munitions are fired from Sorrow to Vanholme, to assist in raiding parties. The shared orbit, along with the accompanying gravitic disruptions and raiding parties, lasts approximately two weeks.
It is simply a matter of time before these two planets collide.
Scouts report a Tau presence, perhaps facilitied by their non-warp FTL technology, as well as psychic activity. The activity indicates both Chaotic influence and aTyranid Screamer-Beacon.
"Magos, I suggest we initiate a full investigation of the system."
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Every session will generate a number of Strategic Points ( SP's) for anyone who shows up, as well as people who go 'above and beyond'. Whomever has the most SP's at the end of the campaign (end of 2015) will be declared the winner, and be given space dudes, space dudettes, credits, money, fame, and glory*.
SPs are represented by actual tokens, which YOU must keep track of! If you show up to the Day of Reckoning without your SPs, then someone else takes the trophy.
SPs represent your status, victories, defeats, interesting things can happen to generate these. You can also use them to bring more attention to your crusade...
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Here is how you earn SP's.
You can earn each of these multiple times per session:
(1) Winning a game.
(.5) Losing a game.
You can earn each one of these once per session:
(1) Showing up! Yup. Just be there and be social.
(1) Bringing a newly painted unit, that was NOT painted as of the last session. No cheaty-cheaty painting 5 units and bringing one at a time.
(1) Loaning an army to a new player, and helping them learn the game.
(1) Writing an after action report/battle report.
(1) Uploading photos of the action to this group!
You can earn each one of these once, EVER:
(3) Bringing a full set of six NUMBERED objective markers, themed to your army. It is a good idea to work the numbers into the objectives, instead of just painting the base, etc. You should use the Terminator-sized 30mm bases (or the new 32mm ones, whichever).
(1) Bring crazy enough to make a wrecked version of a vehicle you play. This should be an actual model, wrecked, as opposed to a crater with some bits in it.
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Additionally, you can SPEND those precious SP's:
(1) Use a "Named" character in your army list. This goes into effect starting with session #3.
(10) Use a "Lord of War" in your army list. This is outside of "Apocalypse" games.
(??) Take advantage of a scenario perk. this could be allowing units to deep strike, or gain special abilities.
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More SP spending options may appear, as the campaign progresses!
Additionally, SPs that are 'risked' as part of gaining an advantage on the tabletop can be LOST, or even transferred to your opponent! Wagering SPs can bring great advantages...and terrible despair.
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HOUSE RULES
Here will be a list of all house rules accepted into the campaign. House rules are design to facilitate friendly play.
Do not bring super optimized lists.
Anyone who is NOT HAVING FUN may concede the match. We are here to enjoy ourselves, and have fun.
Any units with smoke launchers may activate them during setup. If the player ends up going first, well, that's the risk you took.
There is no way to know all the rules. If there is a question that can't be answered in 5 minutes, use the D6 roll off method to continue the game, and then figure it out afterward.
A "Named Character" is a Special Character from a Codex who is a unique unit. An example would be Brother Captain Stern, or Commissar Yarrick.
Named Characters who "die" in a game may not be used again until after the NEXT session. Heroes never die, they just lick their wounds, and grumble a lot.
Named Characters who "die" in a game are worth DOUBLE victory points, where appropriate. For example, "Slay the Warlord" on a Named Character would grant 2 VPs.
Unbound lists ARE allowed, but you should use them to create interesting, fluffy, narrative-driven forces. Not cheese. Keep your cheese in the refrigerator at home.
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*None of these, except perhaps glory, are actually achieved by winning.
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Post by: Solar_lion
Local group campaign?
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Post by: Gitsplitta
Sounds like an amazing amount of fun Brian. I envy your players.
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If by 'local', you mean two groups of people separated by a two hour drive, meeting in the middle of the state...
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Post by: Nevelon
Every time I see you guys in Massachusetts do something cool, I debate how far I’d be willing to drive for a game. So far sanity is keeping me in check. Sounds like a lot of fun.
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You just had a fun con in Albany!
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Did we? I know there was one in Saratoga last weekend, but I was stuck doing family stuff. I really should get out more.
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Still alive, old friends!
Dealing mostly with getting rid of a lot of miniatures and models I am NEVER going to take care of.
But, I did paint up a friend's Imperial Assault set.
Heh. Star Ears.
--B, out.
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Post by: Solar_lion
Wow .. that's a lot of figs..
Looks good. I love the walkers.
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Started work back on various things, pictures coming soon.
A large part of my year is getting rid of miniatures. I have a hoarder problem when it comes to these beasties, and I have to solve it.
So I am cataloging and sorting stuff, partially to generate cash, but mostly to get things out of my life I know I'm never going to finish.
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On the work table:
A wheeled Taurox. Once I realized this was GW's attempt at making an MRAP, it kinda fell into place for me. I still dislike the kit, but I think I've done something fun with it.
The first wave of GW fortifications. A bastion, aegis line (2) and a skyshield. This is for the 40K group, so people have some options.
More terrain, some of which will be gifted to members of the group, so they have really nice terrain to play upon.
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On the purge:
Orks
All marines save the painted Minotaurs, which are rounded to about 2500-3000 points, centered on the drop pod, two stormtalons, the stormraven (extended hull) and my custom thuderhawk transporter. Two land raiders, and a pair of Rhino hulls under the Thunderhawk.
All other bitz and pieces.
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Every time I send off items to a new home, a home I make sure will PLAY with what I'm sending off, it feels good.
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I'm also working to find someone I can get into the deep grit with, like ArbitorIan and his friend. On the hunt!
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That's the update for now, back with you all soon.
Kiss kiss, bang bang.
--B.
PS: I may have accidentally purchased a pair of Imperial Navy Avengers. They were $67 each. Yes, I have a problem.
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Post by: shasolenzabi
That addiction to plastic/resin/metal crack is strong in all of us Brian.
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These kits are so tiny. It amazes me that their vehicles are made for 25mm, and their figures are up to 32-35mm. Crazy stuff.
Also, all this beautiful interior detail, and then you glue everything closed. Such a waste.
Note: Being who I am, I'm keeping the top unglued, so I can remove it to show the interior.
--B.
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Post by: shasolenzabi
GW has said before, (They got aksed when WD used to have a letters section) about the scale of vehicles to soldiers, and it is that the vehicles are smaller than they would be so they are easier to put in a carry case,, and that they are representative of the design concept.
True scaled to the SM, a Landraider would take up a 11 x 8.5 notebook foot-print
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Post by: inmygravenimage
We all have our foibles Good to see you again mate
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Post by: Briancj
I am debating dropping the rear wheels, and going for a half-track effect.
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Post by: Gitsplitta
Good choice Brian, that should look really spiffy.
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Post by: Briancj
Two more members of the squadron...
Avengers...ASSEMBLED!
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This brings the tally to:
4 Valkyrie/Vendettas (I think I have parts for another)
1 Vulture Gunship
2 Sky Talons (I kinda need a third)
2 Arvus Lighters
2 Avenger Strike Fighters
I finally acquired an OOP Aquila Lander, so that's on the way.
I still desire:
An original Lighting Strike Fighter
A few Thunderbolts
Maybe one of the Voss Lightnings to escort the Avengers
A Marauder Bomber or two.
Air power. My defense against "D" weapons.
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Post by: Gitsplitta
I like it.
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Post by: inmygravenimage
I like the cut of your jib, sir
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Post by: shasolenzabi
Yes! Taurox as silly looking as it is, looks less so with wheels on!
Hmmm Avengers, I may have to hurry that MiG up If I still keep parts of a WW-2 bomber, I may be able to convert some and make a home made Verti-Bird.......Now there is a thought!
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Post by: Briancj
Silver Spar Squadron gets a basecoat of Krylon "Stainless Steel Finish", which actually has stainless steel microflakes in it.
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Post by: Gitsplitta
Oooooh, shiny!
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Post by: shasolenzabi
Those are looking real 1940-1950's finished!
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Post by: Briancj
Base colors down. Going after the WW2 Mustang/Lightning schemes.
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Post by: Solar_lion
Great start.
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Post by: Briancj
I'm looking for suggestions as to how I should paint the engines. Right now, I'm considering painting them black, and then doing a light drybrush of silver.
Any thoughts?
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Post by: Gitsplitta
I wouldn't paint them any differently than the rest of the silver on the plane or they'll look out-of-place. After that, you can add special engine effects like temperature discoloration, etc.
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Post by: Briancj
In other news, I have acquired two of the four original GW Imperial fortifications.
An Imperial Guard command Tower (new in box, unpunched), which looks like this:
And an Imperial Guard Battle Bunker, which looks like this:
I have to track down an Imperial Guard Bastion and the Imperial Firebase, and my collection of 2nd ed fortifications will be complete!
MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
--B.
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Post by: Gitsplitta
Very pretty Brian. Nicely done.
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Post by: shasolenzabi
They look great! and nice score on those old bunkers
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Post by: Briancj
Thank you kindly, Gits! One of these days, I'll set up a proper lightbox again.
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Post by: inmygravenimage
Now I want to see a full set of cardstock buildings from 2e, necromunda and gorkmorka!
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Post by: Briancj
I have all the Necromunda/Outlander stuff, I do not have Gorkamorka, the Ork Fort, the Storm of Vengence power station...
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Post by: inmygravenimage
Must try harder
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Post by: Solar_lion
I had one of those box terrain in the day. I still have a bunch of the Necromunda terrain as well thou being use I suspect they aren't in that great of shape.
I would have done the engines black with metallic drybrushing to make them contrast a bit.
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Post by: Briancj
Solar_lion wrote:
I would have done the engines black with metallic drybrushing to make them contrast a bit.
TOO LATE.
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Post by: Briancj
The most difficult part of going back to a project you shelved is remembering the PLAN.
I really need to document this stuff on an index card, and put that card in the box.
Happy 4th of July, everyone.
And to my UK friends:
Happy Colonial Traitor Day!
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Post by: inmygravenimage
Pah. Bloody Foreignerds. also, I make notes on my phone.
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Post by: Camkierhi
Happy 4th July.
Love the shiney planes, Love the colours. Slightly reminds me of that old beauty, P51.
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Post by: Briancj
And now... Cavalry.
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Post by: inmygravenimage
Looks as if someone has a plan afoot...
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Post by: Briancj
Look! Assembled miniatures! These were a total pain in the arse!
Yes, that's 30 Rough Riders and 30 Bullgryns.
Yes, that's about 2000 points in front of you.
--B.
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Post by: shasolenzabi
He is ready for the Apocalypse league if that is but a portion of all the forces at your command
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Post by: Briancj
My legal 2000 point tournament army:
Combined Arms Detachment
Lord Commissar with The Emperor's Benediction
Lord Commissar
Vet Squad with 2x flamer
Vet Squad with 2x flamer
10 rough Riders - Sgt with plasma and power weapon, 2x meltaguns
10 rough Riders - Sgt with plasma and power weapon, 2x meltaguns
10 rough Riders - Sgt with plasma and power weapon, 2x meltaguns
10 Bullgryns
10 Bullgryns
7 Bullgryns
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Post by: shasolenzabi
Nice list
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Post by: Dr H
I hope you enjoy painting horses.
Nice army concept.
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Post by: Briancj
Oddly enough, I do enjoy it. Very soothing. Happy little horses.
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Post by: inmygravenimage
Give them all armoured war horns. Then you will have a brony force
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Post by: RandyMcStab
Looking good, I'd be interested in reading a batrep featuring that force.
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Post by: Gitsplitta
What in the heck is a "bullgryn"??
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Post by: OneManNoodles
^this.
Although I have seen the models I still don't know what i'm looking at...
However briancj, your "bullgryns" are by far the best I’ve seen
I'd love to hear how that army fairs with a few battle reports
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Post by: Gitsplitta
So... another kind of cavalry.
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Post by: OneManNoodles
Bullgryns are armoured alternate-kit ogryns with big clubs and riot shields.... that's all I know,
I don't have the current guard codex so I have no idea what they are like in game terms.
The heavy cavalry is a cool alternative look imo.
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Post by: Briancj
Bullgryns are Ogryn with shields and short ranged frag grenade launchers. Utterly over-costd, this is a totally silly army. I expect it to be as effective as throwing poop against a tsunami.
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Post by: Gitsplitta
I don't see the bullgryns in your picture though.... I'm confused.
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Post by: RandyMcStab
The heavy horse on circular bases are counts as-ing I think. The other kind of new space ogre might make sense as they have Str7 attacks which might represent lances well?
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Post by: Briancj
So, yeah. I hate the Ogryn/Bullgryn Models.
Sherman, set the WAYBAC machine...
In 2nd edition, Rough Riders were a viable army. You could even mount characters on horses! So, an all-horse army is something I've wanted to do for a while.
However, ever since 5th edition, you can't do that. (In 3rd and 4th, if you attached a Commissar to a rough rider squad, he got a free horse.)
Since "Heavy Cavalry" isn't designed to move quickly, I decided that Bullgryns would be a very good replacement. The round bases make it very clear that the units are not "Cavalry".
The rectangular bases are standard Roughriders.
All 60 riders are Praetorians, a mix of Col. Graven's "Curious Constructs" and Victoria Lamb's work. About 65% Graven, 35% Lamb. Save for my original Commissar on horseback (which had the glory of single-handedly shooting down a Dark Eldar Raider in a GW Grand Tournament).
The handful of infantry will all be veterans with shotguns, and the two Commissars, which will be Graven/Lamb minis, and a smattering of OG GW Praetorians (the command squad) plus some bits from the OOP collection. Amusingly, I will not be using actual Commissar models.
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Post by: Galorn
Are you coming to Captain con Brian?
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Post by: insaniak
Subbing in heavy cavalry for the Bullgryns is a clever idea. It's a cool looking force...
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Post by: Gitsplitta
Very cool Brian, thanks for the explanation... makes your army look all that much better!
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Post by: Briancj
Nope! I shall be boozing and gaming on the Cape, this weekend.
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Post by: ArbitorIan
Briancj wrote:
In 2nd edition, Rough Riders were a viable army. You could even mount characters on horses! So, an all-horse army is something I've wanted to do for a while.
However, ever since 5th edition, you can't do that. (In 3rd and 4th, if you attached a Commissar to a rough rider squad, he got a free horse.)
You can still do rough rider army by using the Death Korps Death Rider Formation from the Vraks book - which actually makes rough riders pretty good, giving them 2 Wounds, FnP and WS4. The formation is just Death Rider Squadrons with options for a Death Rider HQ including a mounted Commissar.
Might not be useful for your tournament coming up, unless they accept FW stuff, but maybe useful in friendly games.
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Post by: Briancj
Thanks, Ian!
I'm not sure if I'll ever actually take this to a tournament, but if they allow FW I'll use the vraks. There's some disadvantages to the Kreig Riders, including an increase in points. But, hey! Bullgryns are a stupid amount of points, already!
--B.
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Post by: Briancj
I have completed my (re)collection of 2nd edition Codexes and Rules.
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Post by: RandyMcStab
ALL codices? Or just the ones relevant to you? I recently got all the 2nd Ed core rules and the 3 books I'm interested in complete to the present day, it's nice to look back on how things have evolved....
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Post by: Briancj
All of 'em. I'm going to stealthily bring some folks back to 2nd edition, and see if they like it.
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Post by: Solar_lion
Ah.. Back in the day.. show us a pic of the goods. Be good to see them all again!
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Post by: SJM
If you can be bothered, I really would put those horses on biker bases. They would look much been in my opinion.
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Post by: Briancj
SJM wrote:If you can be bothered, I really would put those horses on biker bases. They would look much been in my opinion.
No can do, compadre. The heavy horse are on the same bases Ogryns/Bullgryns use.
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Post by: GiraffeX
Second edition 40k was great.
I mainly played Eldar back then, I remember fielding an army of Dark Reapers once, fun times .
Once I allied in a Wolf Guard squad with five guys all with heavy weapons and cyclones for 500 points, bargain. That was the first time I had seen my mate rage quit
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Post by: Briancj
Yeah, going to avoid the late-term 2nd edition shenanigans. Curbs on that stuff, as well as vortex and virus, as well as the heavy Herohammer.
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Post by: Solar_lion
Happy 100 pgs..
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Post by: GiraffeX
Oh yeah I had forgotten about vortex grenades.
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Post by: Solar_lion
wasn't there Plasma grenades as well?
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Post by: shasolenzabi
Grenades of the old days
Vortex
smoke
viral
rad
plasma
frag (of course)
Krak(of course)
Blind (meant to mess with SM auto senses)
Melta Bombs(of course)
Grav
If I missed any it is because of memories from the 1990's
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Post by: Zogg
shasolenzabi wrote:Grenades of the old days
Vortex
smoke
viral
rad
plasma
frag (of course)
Krak(of course)
Blind (meant to mess with SM auto senses)
Melta Bombs(of course)
Grav
If I missed any it is because of memories from the 1990's
Antiplant
Choke
Hallucinogen
Photon flash flare
Scare
Tanglefoot
Happened to have my 2nd ed Wargear book right beside me.
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Post by: Briancj
RIGHT BESIDE HIM!
Happy 100 pages, y'all.
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Post by: Gitsplitta
Happy 100 pages Brian! Nicely done my friend.
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Post by: inmygravenimage
Happy century dude!
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Post by: Briancj
My non-crashed Aquila Lander has arrived!
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Post by: Briancj
Reasons why modern 40K can bite me, #114:
Astra Militarum Hydra
BS 3
Armour: Standard Chimera stats
Tank, Open-Topped
Two twin-linked Hydra Autocannons (Identical stats, except: Heavy 2, Skyfire)
Squadron special rules: No
Formation special rules: No
Adeptus Astartes Stalker
BS4
Armour: Same as the Hydra, EXCEPT: two points better side armour.
Tank
Icarus Stormcannon Array (Identical stats, except: Heavy 3, Interceptor, Skyfire, TWIN-LINKED OR CAN SPLIT FIRE)
Squadron special rules: Yes
Formation special rules: Yes
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For 5 points, you get formation and squadron special rules, better armour, better BS, and a better gun.
As a friend said, this isn't power creep. It's a power drag-race.
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Post by: shasolenzabi
Zogg wrote: shasolenzabi wrote:Grenades of the old days
Vortex
smoke
viral
rad
plasma
frag (of course)
Krak(of course)
Blind (meant to mess with SM auto senses)
Melta Bombs(of course)
Grav
If I missed any it is because of memories from the 1990's
Antiplant
Choke
Hallucinogen
Photon flash flare
Scare
Tanglefoot
Happened to have my 2nd ed Wargear book right beside me.
Thanks for the help Zogg!
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Post by: Theophony
Belated congrats on the 100 page mark.
I miss the old defoliant missiles. I used to set my devastators up in woods all the time and be in cover until my opponent had to go into no mans land. Fire defoliant, then let loose hell on the enemy with the rest.
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Post by: Briancj
An INTACT Aquila Lander? HERESY!
PS: I see the original design, and I wish I could have gotten an actual FW one, because the cargo bay can swing down between the landing legs.
But, beggars can't be choosers. And she's still beeyoouutiiifulllllllll.
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Post by: Gitsplitta
That's impressive. I don't think I've ever seen one in tact.
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Post by: shasolenzabi
Amazing! and great to see one like that!
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Post by: inmygravenimage
Crash it! Oh, the irony...
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Post by: Briancj
Getting prepped to run a group of people through some old school 40K. Since, you know, points are pretty much optional.
If we're going to have all these Titans around, it is time to finish the Forgeworld of Titansreach...
What's that Ordinatus Falchen doing there? Well, it seems a nearby Necron Cairn has been re-discovered...
And, defending the Ordinatus is this orbital platform, clearly marked by the servants of the Imperium as a Zone Mortalis...
And THAT is what I've been doing, lately. Nothing like a Saturday of scenario-based gaming to push the terrain out of the boxes, and onto the table!
--B.
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Post by: Gitsplitta
That is quite awesome Brian. Playing on those tables would be a true delight!
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Post by: RandyMcStab
Looking really good, will you post it to me? Just for a weekend like. Nice to see the Ordinatus busted out too, have you fired it in anger yet? I still remember your promise of ICBM support in my next Apoc game!
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Post by: Briancj
It has yet to be fired in anger.
Do you want the ordinatus, or the entire cityfight table posted to you?
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Post by: shasolenzabi
So many battle tables! OOOOH!
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Post by: RandyMcStab
Both.
Nah just the table, the Ordinatus has enough range.
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Post by: Briancj
Well, as I am working my way out of 40K, that may happen.
Side note:
I just spray primed 50 miniatures dark blue, because DAMN I have gotten lazy. I just want the miniatures done, and looking good under the "Three Foot Rule". Heh. I used to be so detail-oriented...
--B.
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Post by: Briancj
Starting to put the Games Workshop Imperial Guard Bunker together. Need to finish lining the creases with black, and do some painting touchups to hide some of the blue, then I will mount it to a base, and flock.
I love these pieces, and the entire line of "bulkhead" terrain is worth emulation.
The runs of cardboard terrain that are out there, now, are the spiritual descendants of these works of art.
</humble curator of the past>
--Brian
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Post by: Stormwall
Simply awesome. Great 100th page post.
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Post by: inmygravenimage
Sweet. Pure history!
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Post by: Gitsplitta
Love those old bunkers. We still use buildings of that era (including that one) at our FLGS.
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Post by: Briancj
It's time to deal with this pile of plastic. In parallel with a massive eBay purge, I am going to speed-assemble-and-paint the remainder of my Imperial Guard.
Ready?
Round One, Imperial Hellhound...
FIGHT!
Automatically Appended Next Post: Hellhound assembled, with magnetic weapon mounts.
ONWARDS.
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Post by: Gitsplitta
Good to see you back in the swing of things Brian.
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