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Post by: Alpharius
nice find indeed - I'll take one for my Infinity table!
Any more details (release + price) for the Facebook blocked while at work?
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Post by: Salacious Greed
yeah, Wow, that's awesome
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Post by: BrookM
"Harrier Dropship" confirmed for 2013:
We are delighted to announce that we've just tied-up the rights to produce this stunning drop-ship (designed by Tom McDowell) for both 28mm and 15mm gaming: more details in the new year!
In the meantime take a peak at what we regard as a simply gorgeous design that oozes G.O.T. sci-fi.
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Post by: Absolutionis
Antenociti's Workshop rarely disappoints and their prices are exceptionally reasonable. I'm definitely looking forward to this.
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Post by: IdentifyZero
I would like one or so for my Sedition Wars.. please.
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Post by: shingouki
VERY COOL...........
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Post by: Marrak
Yes. Soon? Please? That thing is awesome.
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Post by: PsychoticStorm
Now that looks really nice!
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Post by: Agent_Tremolo
Just last week I started work on a VTOL for my 28mm Tomorrow's War. Now I feel I'd better shelf the plasticard and wait for this baby. It'd look better than whatever my clumsy hands can produce anyways
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Post by: Commander Cain
Hmm, very interesting. I gotta get me some of them!
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Post by: Kilkrazy
Very nice indeed.
Antenociti have added a lot of models to their SF vehicle range in the past year.
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Post by: Reecius
Looking good so far!
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Post by: BlueDagger
Words can't describe the amount of want on this one.
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Post by: SilverMK2
That could be pretty cool
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Post by: Kroothawk
Hope it is ready for next year's Tau release
Also nice for Infinity.
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Post by: Kalamadea
Fantastic! It's got all the design elements I love from the Halo Pelican, which nobody has ever produced a properly scaled model for /grumble. I never even get to use my infinity stuff, but I don't care, I'm picking this thing up!
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Post by: Clang
Plastic or resin?
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Post by: Absolutionis
Their vehicles are always resin. It's probably safe to assume this will be too.
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Post by: Pacific
That looks awesome, looks like I have found my drop-ship for the Paradiso book!
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Post by: FM Ninja 048
Kalamadea wrote: It's got all the design elements I love from the Halo Vehicles, which nobody has ever produced a properly scale models for /grumble.
/double grumble
Also, I could see various other pods coming out for this, weapons pods, cargo pods, vehicle carriage pods etc.
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Post by: CURNOW
also to go with it ..........think im in love
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Post by: Alpharius
I guess I'm going to have to "like" their Facebook page!
Or, I could just rely on you, good sir, to continue to provide us with these excellent updates!
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Post by: Fenriswulf
Wondering how that dropship will turn out in 3d. Hopefully it will be a good replacement for IG Valkyries and alternates.
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Post by: CURNOW
Alpharius wrote:I guess I'm going to have to "like" their Facebook page!
Or, I could just rely on you, good sir, to continue to provide us with these excellent updates!
i'll try my best ..
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Post by: Commander Cain
Nice looking vehicle as well! I am guessing it is a drone though. Doesn't seem to be much space for anyone to fit in there...
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Post by: RiTides
Are there more pics of the dropship anywhere?
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Post by: Saxon
Looks great, but I fear the price might be prohibitive.
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Post by: Alpharius
Saxon wrote:Looks great, but I fear the price might be prohibitive.
I guess something like that is all relative, but Antenociti's Workshop usually has decent prices on stuff like this.
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Post by: CURNOW
Commander Cain wrote:Nice looking vehicle as well! I am guessing it is a drone though. Doesn't seem to be much space for anyone to fit in there...
yeah its supposed to be a light recon vehicle so im guessing one driver {or two kids ?}
RiTides wrote:Are there more pics of the dropship anywhere?
no just that one atm moment but i will pop them on here as they come.
Saxon wrote:Looks great, but I fear the price might be prohibitive.
well the resin apc's and hover tanks they do are only £17 ish so looking at the size of this {say 2 or 2.5 times the size of them? im gona say £50-£60 ? and thats still cheap }
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Post by: Pacific
Looking at the scale of their APC (which is £21.50), I'd guess the drop-ship to be somewhere around the £30?
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Post by: Marrak
I've always liked his stuff... now I'm simply drooling. I want this dropship and vehicle so bad.
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
Anyone know if their hardsuits are finally available for sale? I tried to scour their website but couldn't find anything, though I've seen painted examples from Dwarvist.
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Post by: CURNOW
I think some have just gone out to dwarfist for painting. So i would of thorght soon after xmas.
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Post by: Necros
I'm planning to get some of the tanks to go with my "sedition wars guard army" .. along with the 6-wheeler from Secret Weapon, and not-sentinel walkers from Micro Panzer Gonna have to add this drop ship for my not-valkyrie
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Post by: Grot 6
Aliens.
I love them. might need one or two for the Infinity stuff.
"GET TO THE LZ!!!! MARINES, WE ARE LEAVING!!!! " With a gak load of enemies chasing you across the table.
If you can pull this off in resin, I'm in for two ro three of each, the dropships, and the APC's.
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Post by: Kroothawk
Different hull form, different engine, different function, but yeah ... it also flies.
And I also own the Hunter Killer for my Necrons BTW ... and want this flyer for my Tau and Infinity.
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Post by: Trasvi
Its a ridiculously cool and generic form for a flier. Cross a modern attack helicopter with VTOL hover engines, and you get that basic design. I'd wager that most sci-fi with VTOL (either anti-grav or jet engines) have that same design.
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Post by: Panic
Necros wrote:I'm planning to get some of the tanks to go with my "sedition wars guard army" .. along with the 6-wheeler from Secret Weapon, and not-sentinel walkers from Micro Panzer Gonna have to add this drop ship for my not-valkyrie
Then all you need is a Not guard codex and you will have completely left the hobby! well done, I hope you have fun playing not40k.
Panic...
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Post by: BrookM
Panic wrote: Necros wrote:I'm planning to get some of the tanks to go with my "sedition wars guard army" .. along with the 6-wheeler from Secret Weapon, and not-sentinel walkers from Micro Panzer Gonna have to add this drop ship for my not-valkyrie
Then all you need is a Not guard codex and you will have completely left the hobby! well done, I hope you have fun playing not40k.
Panic...
Channelling a bit of the old "You're not allowed to have fun that way!" there old bean?
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Post by: CURNOW
BrookM wrote: Panic wrote: Necros wrote:I'm planning to get some of the tanks to go with my "sedition wars guard army" .. along with the 6-wheeler from Secret Weapon, and not-sentinel walkers from Micro Panzer Gonna have to add this drop ship for my not-valkyrie
Then all you need is a Not guard codex and you will have completely left the hobby! well done, I hope you have fun playing not40k.
Panic...
Channelling a bit of the old "You're not allowed to have fun that way!" there old bean?
Come on you know 40k is the "hobby "
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Post by: BrookM
CURNOW wrote: BrookM wrote: Panic wrote: Necros wrote:I'm planning to get some of the tanks to go with my "sedition wars guard army" .. along with the 6-wheeler from Secret Weapon, and not-sentinel walkers from Micro Panzer Gonna have to add this drop ship for my not-valkyrie
Then all you need is a Not guard codex and you will have completely left the hobby! well done, I hope you have fun playing not40k.
Panic...
Channelling a bit of the old "You're not allowed to have fun that way!" there old bean?
Come on you know 40k is the "hobby "
Oh man, I'm such a heretic then.
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Post by: Kilkrazy
40K is not "the hobby", it is "The HHHobby".
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
That's a lot of glitter there, BrookM.
I too have been replacing all of my guard elements with GW alternatives. It feels great, and I know my army is unique, as well as adaptable once a game system comes along to sweep my group off their feet.
Looking at you, Iron Core...
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Post by: CURNOW
Dont forget your flask of weak lemon drink! !
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Post by: Alpharius
I've been waiting for this one!
Though I'm still not sure what I'd use them for...
It comes with a nice variety of weapons too: Gatling gun, Greande Launcher, Flamer, Coilgun.
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Post by: SilverMK2
Alpharius wrote:I've been waiting for this one!
Though I'm still not sure what I'd use them for...
Infinity? A nomad army might fit one of these
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Post by: CURNOW
mine are going to be termi counts as for my sedition wars marine army.
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Post by: judgedoug
Is that GBP 15.99 per suit?
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Post by: CURNOW
yep ,but the more you buy the cheeper the price.
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Post by: Cruentus
Ooh that Komodo suit is cool.
Looks like that is per suit. So around $22 per in USD?
If they knock off the VAT for overseas buyers, thats a 20% savings off that. Its also a big "if", not every vendor does that.
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Post by: Alpharius
Right!
Buy 2 for £15.50 each and save 4%
Buy 3 for £15.00 each and save 7%
Buy 4 for £14.50 each and save 10%
Buy 5 for £14.00 each and save 13%
Also, I'm fairly sure Antenociti's does remove the VAT for non- UK customers.
4 of the Komodo suits shipping to me in the USA looks to cost £48, so approximately $77 or $19.25 each!
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Post by: judgedoug
I can attest to the quality of Antenociti's Workshop. I recently bought
4x Hawker Evora
2x Zebu
1x Future Car
1x Future car 2
4x Hunchback
2x Tata Dodge Matador air car
The models were shipped on a Friday in the UK and I received them on the following Monday in the USA! 3 days over a weekend, superfast shipping. I have to say they are some of the best resin kits I've ever seen. Crisp detail, smooth finishes, minimal mold lines.
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
They look a lot less baroque than I thought. SO aside from price, is there still a reason to wait on Defiance game?
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Post by: Savnock
SilverMK2 wrote: Alpharius wrote:I've been waiting for this one!
Though I'm still not sure what I'd use them for...
Infinity? A nomad army might fit one of these
Actually, a Corregidor army could fit FOUR of these.. in about 220 points. That's 12 STR, 2 Mk12s, 2 panzerfausls, 2 blitzens, and a whole lotta chances to patch 'em up with your clockmakers while storming straight into anything short of autocannon fire.
Atenocitis continues to rule the roost for pretty resin kits!
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Post by: Jefffar
How big is the Komodo?
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Post by: Mecha_buddha
If you can still find the terminator stuff, they go for 40 to 50 US plus shipping.
I like the look of this one better.
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Post by: warboss
These guys (and/or gals) really have some nice stuff. I unfortunately promised myself that I would limit my gaming spending to stuff that I actually need in some fashion instead of just buying stuff that looks cool and letting it sit in the basement for 10 years (VOR: Maelstrom Ares suit and AT-43 Tac Arms... I'm looking at you!!). If I could actually get a Mass Effect tabletop rpg group going, even that paper thin excuse would be enough...
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Post by: plastictrees
Savnock wrote: SilverMK2 wrote: Alpharius wrote:I've been waiting for this one!
Though I'm still not sure what I'd use them for...
Infinity? A nomad army might fit one of these
Actually, a Corregidor army could fit FOUR of these.. in about 220 points. That's 12 STR, 2 Mk12s, 2 panzerfausls, 2 blitzens, and a whole lotta chances to patch 'em up with your clockmakers while storming straight into anything short of autocannon fire.
Atenocitis continues to rule the roost for pretty resin kits!
What would you be running them as?
Trying to find an excuse to buy them...
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Post by: davethepak
I have bought stuff from these guys before, and have been VERY happy with the quality.
I would love to have a hunter killer for my crons...(anyone have any scale shots?) but this new flyer might make a cool orca proxy ...or who knows what else...its just cooL!!!
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Post by: CURNOW
new update
Antenociti's Workshop
I have, FTI, started work on calculating cost and structure of the Dropship-Kickstarter. There is a long way to go yet but at least now I can say things are progressing, including some new concept art work in the pipeline.
for those who dont know about the dropship here is the old link:
Antenociti's Workshop
I have, FTI, started work on calculating cost and structure of the Dropship-Kickstarter. There is a long way to go yet but at least now I can say things are progressing, including some new concept art work in the pipeline.
for those who dont know about the dropship here is the old link:http://www.antenocitisworkshop.com/news/coming-in-2013/
not sure if this is good news or bad tbh ...
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Post by: NoseGoblin
Antenociti's a class act, great designs, execution and customer service...
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Post by: CURNOW
NoseGoblin wrote:Antenociti's a class act, great designs, execution and customer service...
yep i agree great guys im just abit miffed that its a kickstarter as it may push back the relese date .but then i supose if its the only way they can fund it ...
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Post by: Kroothawk
Well, if they start a kickstarter, I'll be in first day.
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Post by: CURNOW
haha yeah me too ..cant help myself lol
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Post by: CURNOW
from there blog :]
We are slowly building up two of the major factions in the G.O.T. ‘verse so that each of them has a full range of vehicles – the Technosphere Peace Enforcement Agency (T-PEA) has now had all of its “slots” filled with concept artwork which includes two of the eventual three tank-slots.
The two following sketches were done by “Flying Debris” who was the artist behind the very popular “Komodo” carapace armoured suit and show-off the sci-fi method of locomotion for these first two T-PEA tanks, namely ”Track-ball”.
This places a multi-directional “ball” at the end of an “arm” or “Leg” enabling the vehicles to rotate that ball in all 3 dimensions and the arm, or leg, itself to also be moved in 1 or 2 axis, resulting in a highly manoeuvrable system of locomotion (via whatever science-fiction “Handwavium” technology). The above “Light Tank” concept will be integrated with elements of the Medium Tank below to give an idea of continuity of design and manufacturing between these two tanks:
The third and final tank in the T-PEA faction will be substantially different, both in terms of size, weaponry and locomotion and we will show some of that concept later this year.
To further flesh-out the faction though we will also be including the GTK scout:
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Post by: Soo'Vah'Cha
How about those awesome "aliens" -ish APCs in 15mm you have..any plans on going 28mm with them..if so I would buy a ton of them!
Gorgeous models!
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Post by: CURNOW
they were done for a commision from what i remember .
but http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/522643.page your wish is granted !
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Post by: Alpharius
CURNOW - I may have missed this, but are you officially associated with Antenociti's Workshop?
I love their work and would welcome an 'official' presence here on Dakka Dakka!
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Post by: Kroothawk
Alpharius wrote:CURNOW - I may have missed this, but are you officially associated with Antenociti's Workshop?
I don't think that Antenociti's staff has to join a kickstarter to get their models
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Post by: CURNOW
no not in anyway just a fan of the products .
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Post by: Alpharius
For all smart asses out there: In his now edited message, he made it look like he was speaking as Antenociti's Workshop.
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Post by: PsychoticStorm
Kroothawk wrote: Alpharius wrote:CURNOW - I may have missed this, but are you officially associated with Antenociti's Workshop?
I don't think that Antenociti's staff has to join a kickstarter to get their models
To do them in plastic, yes they do need it.
Stunning concept art I am really eager to see them as models.
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Post by: Kroothawk
Alpharius wrote:For all smart asses out there: In his now edited message, he made it look like he was speaking as Antenociti's Workshop.
Smart asses? Where?
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Post by: CURNOW
Alpharius wrote:For all smart asses out there: In his now edited message, he made it look like he was speaking as Antenociti's Workshop.
yeah my bad , was multi tasking .sorry for any confushion
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Post by: SilverMK2
If there is a ks i hope it launches after i start my new job so i can put down 'yes please' on the pledge
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Post by: rigeld2
PsychoticStorm wrote: Kroothawk wrote: Alpharius wrote:CURNOW - I may have missed this, but are you officially associated with Antenociti's Workshop?
I don't think that Antenociti's staff has to join a kickstarter to get their models
To do them in plastic, yes they do need it.
Stunning concept art I am really eager to see them as models.
I bolded the word you missed.
The people who work there shouldn't need to contribute to a kickstarter for a model they produce.
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Post by: Mad4Minis
CURNOW wrote: from there blog :]
We are slowly building up two of the major factions in the G.O.T. ‘verse so that each of them has a full range of vehicles – the Technosphere Peace Enforcement Agency (T-PEA) has now had all of its “slots” filled with concept artwork which includes two of the eventual three tank-slots.
The two following sketches were done by “Flying Debris” who was the artist behind the very popular “Komodo” carapace armoured suit and show-off the sci-fi method of locomotion for these first two T-PEA tanks, namely ”Track-ball”.
This places a multi-directional “ball” at the end of an “arm” or “Leg” enabling the vehicles to rotate that ball in all 3 dimensions and the arm, or leg, itself to also be moved in 1 or 2 axis, resulting in a highly manoeuvrable system of locomotion (via whatever science-fiction “Handwavium” technology). The above “Light Tank” concept will be integrated with elements of the Medium Tank below to give an idea of continuity of design and manufacturing between these two tanks:
The third and final tank in the T-PEA faction will be substantially different, both in terms of size, weaponry and locomotion and we will show some of that concept later this year.
To further flesh-out the faction though we will also be including the GTK scout:
Those tank designs are very interesting...looking forward to seeing them progress.
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Post by: Pacific
Damn.. how awesome does the concept art for that tank look?!
Have got tons of Antenociti's stuff; their GOT miniatures, buildings, vehicles, and all of it has been good. Really great little workshop, they deserve to have success if they do get a Kickstarter off the ground.
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Post by: griffen127
The drop ship is sweet.
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Post by: Fenriswulf
Loving those tank designs. Very futuristic!
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Post by: PsychoticStorm
rigeld2 wrote: PsychoticStorm wrote: Kroothawk wrote: Alpharius wrote:CURNOW - I may have missed this, but are you officially associated with Antenociti's Workshop?
I don't think that Antenociti's staff has to join a kickstarter to get their models
To do them in plastic, yes they do need it.
Stunning concept art I am really eager to see them as models.
I bolded the word you missed.
The people who work there shouldn't need to contribute to a kickstarter for a model they produce.
I didn't miss it, I misunderstood it, thought he said stuff, time for a "no native speaker" excuse card.
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Post by: CURNOW
Some more concepts for the roller tank form there fb page.
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Post by: CURNOW
theyve posted a new concept for a dropship ,think it looks like a tau/imperial hybrid
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Post by: warboss
The roller tank reminds me of the big CEF tank in Heavy Gear. That dropship however made me drop my gak. That does look cool... inspired by the valkyrie and pelican but still its own bird.
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Post by: Kroothawk
Sorry, but the new concept has almost nothing to do with the old one.
New one is blocky Imperial stuff, old one was sleek elegant modern scifi.
I am only interested in the old one.
Hope they are only considering the new one in addition to the old one.
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Post by: Kanluwen
I like the new design. It's very reminiscent of the UNSC Pelican redesign that was in Halo 4.
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Post by: PsychoticStorm
Looks fantastic!
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Post by: Ouze
On the one had, Kroothawk is right. It totally looks nothing like what they had before.
On the other hand, I really love the current one. It's beautiful, if less elegant.
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Post by: warboss
It definitely ratcheted down the tau/eldar aesthetic and cranked up the imperial... although I'd probably most compare the old one to the flyer in the last terminator movie.
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Post by: Ouze
It mind of reminds me of the dropships from one of those newer, crappier Star Wars movies. The one where Yoda drops down into the..... gladiator pit or whatever with the um... clone troopers, maybe? Look, I saw the movies but am not really into Star Wars.
Bodywise, like this a bit:
Note that I'm not complaining, I like it very much.
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Post by: Killionaire
This one looks really good. But I liked the old one better. Hyperfuturistic is what's relatively rare, and it'd be absolutely perfect for Infinity. Now, it's still great for Infinity. But just less jarringly so
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Post by: Barzam
The old one had that Mass Effect styled sleek future look to it. Iiked that. This one seems more gritty and grimdark styled. While it looks good, it isn't quite what I was hoping for.
Either way, this thing was going to be a resin/metal hybrid kit, right? Were those tanks intended to be in the KS as well?
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Post by: warboss
Killionaire wrote:This one looks really good. But I liked the old one better. Hyperfuturistic is what's relatively rare, and it'd be absolutely perfect for Infinity. Now, it's still great for Infinity. But just less jarringly so
Don't infinity factions have somewhat different tech levels? Some seem (from my albeit limited exposure) to be full on bubblegum crisis meets ghost in the shell while others are braveheart in space with an assault rifle. If so, it may have just switched which faction it is best for.
Did they confirm that they're actually switching to this different version as opposed to making both? I realize that it's not a huge company and may not be able to afford designing/making/stocking both but figured I'd ask.
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Post by: Alpharius
It does - something a JOTUM T.A.G. can get some cover behind!
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Post by: Kanluwen
Barzam wrote:The old one had that Mass Effect styled sleek future look to it. Iiked that. This one seems more gritty and grimdark styled. While it looks good, it isn't quite what I was hoping for.
Either way, this thing was going to be a resin/metal hybrid kit, right? Were those tanks intended to be in the KS as well?
The old one, while it had that "Mass Effect styled sleek future look to it" also looked like it could in no way actually fit a pilot or troops. Automatically Appended Next Post: warboss wrote: Killionaire wrote:This one looks really good. But I liked the old one better. Hyperfuturistic is what's relatively rare, and it'd be absolutely perfect for Infinity. Now, it's still great for Infinity. But just less jarringly so
Don't infinity factions have somewhat different tech levels? Some seem (from my albeit limited exposure) to be full on bubblegum crisis meets ghost in the shell while others are braveheart in space with an assault rifle. If so, it may have just switched which faction it is best for.
Kind of sort of.
Infinity is not like 40k where the only time you see the different factions is on a war footing. The various factions(barring PanOceania and Yu Jing) do a lot of trading between each other. Not every faction can do all the manufacturing for what they want/need.
A notable example is that Ariadna has a pretty tight bond, commercially, with the Nomad Nation and Haqqislam both in terms of arms trading.
Then you have the O-12 and Bureau Aegis, etc who are "observers" and essentially neutral in any major conflict, stepping in when rules are violated and the mercenaries...
TL;DR version?
It's not unheard of for people to be using the same equipment despite being different factions.
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Post by: Pacific
I think Kroothawk has a point.. the other one definitely had a distinctive style. Not to say this new concept is bad, far from it I think it looks fantastic (and might well replace the Valkyrie as the coolest looking flyer!), but they were definitely distinct from each other.
As Kanluwen says, you can imagine the new one with a squad of troops in the back of it, not so much the other one. But, perhaps there is room for both (with the sleeker version being anything from some kind of 'hunter killer' style pilotless drone, or one man vehicle, and this one as the more conventional troop transport?!
So..I'm saying I hope they will release both!
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Post by: SilverMK2
I much prefer the first one.
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Post by: Sgt.Roadkill
wasn't paying attention to where i was posting, my bad guys.
sorry, was doinmg about 5 things at once
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Post by: Ouze
Hey, stupid question here, but why are we assuming these are actually the same vehicle evolving?
The first one is tagged as a "Harrier", and the second one a "Grendal". Is it possible these are 2 totally different vehicles for different factions? Automatically Appended Next Post: Sgt.Roadkill wrote:What happened to them phasing crap like this out? Have I just been playing this game so long I am seeing the 3rd ed micro codex comeback..... just without the small price tag.
this is crap. if they wanted something like this they should have done a new craftworld codex and spread the love a bit and it may have been worth the price.
lolwut
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Post by: UNCLEBADTOUCH
Mmm very nice!
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Post by: PsychoticStorm
Ouze wrote:Hey, stupid question here, but why are we assuming these are actually the same vehicle evolving?
The first one is tagged as a "Harrier", and the second one a "Grendal". Is it possible these are 2 totally different vehicles for different factions?
You shouldn't, in its universe there are at least 3 distinct technology levels very high tech, high tech and near future tech, the first craft must be GOT and the later must be from the Russian faction so the very high tech and the near future tech.
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Post by: Pacific
Ouze wrote:Hey, stupid question here, but why are we assuming these are actually the same vehicle evolving?
The first one is tagged as a "Harrier", and the second one a "Grendal". Is it possible these are 2 totally different vehicles for different factions?
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Sgt.Roadkill wrote:What happened to them phasing crap like this out? Have I just been playing this game so long I am seeing the 3rd ed micro codex comeback..... just without the small price tag.
this is crap. if they wanted something like this they should have done a new craftworld codex and spread the love a bit and it may have been worth the price.
lolwut
hahaha..
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Post by: CURNOW
PsychoticStorm wrote: Ouze wrote:Hey, stupid question here, but why are we assuming these are actually the same vehicle evolving?
The first one is tagged as a "Harrier", and the second one a "Grendal". Is it possible these are 2 totally different vehicles for different factions?
You shouldn't, in its universe there are at least 3 distinct technology levels very high tech, high tech and near future tech, the first craft must be GOT and the later must be from the Russian faction so the very high tech and the near future tech.
yeah from what i remember the kickstarter is going to be for a few large models like the dropships and tanks and for smaller vehicals and troops . the grendal must be from the english faction due to the name and the st georges flags on it .
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Post by: PsychoticStorm
Good point forgot about the flags.
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Post by: overtyrant
I see the new concept as near future sci-fi and the original as far future sci-fi. I much prefer far future sci-fi then near future (though still like the new, just not as much as the old).
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Post by: deadairis
Prefer the first one, as it's so tough to find cool sleek sci-fi stuff, but like both.
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Post by: Agent_Tremolo
From what I gather from Antenocitis' blog and facebook page, the Grendel is a different model. And it's a good thing, since I'm aiming for a TL2 look to my generic 28mm force, and the Harrier looked a bit too advanced.
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Post by: AndrewC
Kan, don't be so negative. Since when did size restrictions of transport vehicles become realistic in 40K I'd assumed that the troops fitted into the 'box' carried under/inset into the hull, see the box superimposed on the outline drawing. Cheers Andrew
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The Harrier would look great being fielded by my Deadzone Enforcers. Was it ever mentioned what material these ships and tanks would be in? I'm assuming they'll be resin and metal like the other vehicles, but I'm just wondering if there's been any confirmation.
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I hope these are two different drop ship designs. If so, I'll be in for both. The obvious Valkyrie alternative and the other as something for myTau
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I really hope they do both drop ship designs, and in 15mm.
I'm collecting for a 'district 10' game using gruntz, return of the prawns.
first one will do great for prawn dropships and could up-gun it with paulson design weapons
second one would make a great MNU first reaction batallion advanced dropship (reverse engineered tech or whatever)
I'm on the lookout for some low tech 15mm power armour for them now, maybe G.O.T can come thru for me ;-)
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Agent_Tremolo wrote:From what I gather from Antenocitis' blog and facebook page, the Grendel is a different model.
And it's a good thing, since I'm aiming for a TL2 look to my generic 28mm force, and the Harrier looked a bit too advanced.
Indeed, especially as the Antenocitis Workshop website quotes this...
I added the bold and italics...
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i have to say the old one looks way better
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also anyone heard anything about a date for the KS?
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some background info posted on the blog today.
The United Kingdom & United Kingdoms (UK & UKS)
Languages: Official: English. Common: English, French, Irish, Scottish, Gaelic, Welsh, Cornish.
Population: 423 million
Ethnic groups: 53% White, 22% Mixed, 9% South Asian, 12% Black, 1.5% Chinese, 2.5% other.
Capital: London, Earth (ISS). Westminster, (Avalon)
Government: Unitary parliamentary constitutional monarchy
Major Exo-Planets: Avalon, Prydain, Albion,
Moons: 7(H), 145(NH)
Stones: 92
Orbitals: 3,567
Docks: 7
Registered Habitats: 307
Technology Quotient Range: 6.8 – 13.1
“Humanity consists of two clearly divided groups; the British and the ‘Foreigners’. One group consists of less than 500 million people; the other many, many, many billions. For the British the latter group does not really count.” – Argentine Senator
he UK & the UKS are an unusual and complicated political entity whose origins and outlook within and upon the Technosphere stem directly from its troubled history prior to Intervention.
Unlike the NRF the Earth-Nation part of the UKS (the United Kingdom) is not the governing power of the political Technosphere part of the UKS (the UKS political Group).
In essence the United Kingdom (on Earth) is a fully independent and entirely separate entity to that of the United Kingdoms (note the “s” at the end) within the Technosphere, only directly linked through the UK Monarchy itself with the individual planets and moons being “Fully Independent”. (Whilst this is, in reality, somewhat of a political myth; it is worth looking at the separate parts in isolation before considering them as a whole):
Earth:
The full name of the United Kingdom is the “United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the Protectorates of Free-France and Antarctica”.
The United Kingdom had an extremely troubled existence prior to Intervention. Almost from the moment that it (finally) agreed to become a fully integrated part of Federal Europe its’ fortunes plummeted from that of a major nation to that of a pariah state; soon to be expelled from Federal Europe and even, eventually, expelled from the UN; distrusted and despised by many countries in the world and an economic wreck, riven by urban rioting and an inability to feed its population.
Its subsequent rapid and unexpected return to major power status, and thence to super-power status was completely unforeseen , some would say “unforeseeable”, and, in terms of ‘The Conspiracy’, highly dubious. (Whilst the history of the UK is highlighted elsewhere it is always worth remembering that of all the nations of Earth the UK is the one held most highly suspect and which has benefited the most from both AI and MIND intervention.)
“The reason the sun never set upon the British Empire was because not even God would trust the British in the dark” – Unknown
The UK is a military powerhouse on Earth, its huge military machine largely funded by the vast wealth it has accrued from its Bio-mite Industry and particularly the life-extending “Prolong’ biomite. Subsequently it has also generated a large industrial base in genetics, military equipment, high-tech components and cyber-warfare.
However, it also has substantial reserves of gas and oil via its various overseas territories and long-term sustainable fisheries in the South Atlantic. It is once again a nuclear nation and also has two of the five AIs ever produced by humanity within its domain, including the first ever AI produced by mankind, affectionately known as “Hal”.
The UK holds “Protectorate” status over the Old-Earth (OE) nations of France (now Free-France) and Antarctica (Governed from Stanley in the Falklands Islands). Both were gained following military interventions in those respective areas “at the request of their national legislative assemblies” but both of which are contested by Earth Gov, The Brazilian Empire and Federal Europe.
Free-France and Antarctica both have substantial UK forces stationed in them, although the numbers in France had until recently been decreasing. However, with the current military build-up by Federal Europe Army forces, UK units have once again been taking up positions along the borders with the Federals. Similarly tensions with the Brazilian Empire have initiated a build-up of forces in the South Atlantic that may initiate a third Antarctic War.
Although there has been a steady decline in the population of the UK on Earth, mostly through emigration to the Technosphere, the UK is still a small landmass with a crowded population exacerbated by the ever-increasing areas that are being returned to its “natural” state by various “ecological” groups, resulting in key cities becoming ever larger as rural citizens are displaced to urban areas, those fast approaching “super-city” status. Whilst the standards of living in these areas are, on average, higher than at any point in the UKs History, there remains a lot of contention over the ever-increasing restrictions of access to rural areas and the forced movement of “un-ecological” communities into urban enclosures. The most common complaint from the urban population being that the UK is being transformed into a medieval theme-park to which they are not allowed access.
The UK has the highest ratio of armed forces per capita of any major Earth nation and is once again the dominant naval force on the planetary surface, with no less than 9 surface fleets based around super-carrier battle groups and 2 MOBs, both currently based in Antarctic waters.
Its air and land forces are probably the best trained and certainly the best equipped on Earth and the UK has maintained its very high ratio of troops-per-capita that was created during its troubled years prior to Intervention.
The UK was one of the first nations to enforce biometric and genetic grading within its population and most of those eligible (for genetic reasons) to emigrate to the Technosphere have already done so. The route too off-world colonisation was not closed though: anybody who had served their “5 & 25” of military service (including at least 3 active tours) is entitled to apply for emigration to any of the UKS off-world Habitats. It also confers open-access to jobs within the sphere of the ISS (Independent Sol System) where the UK has significant Stoner populations, Orbitals and zero-G industry. Other nations and habitats are also permanently seeking ex-military forces for security details and the UK has the highest numbers of private security firms on earth.
This “service guarantees citizenship” approach is much derided abroad but very popular within the UK as it provides those who pass into military service automatic access to ‘Prolong’ – an average 25 year service contract is therefore abrogated to 5-years aging: a 20 year-old soldier will server for 25 years ‘actual’, de-mobbing at the physical age of 25. Those with good service records become entitled to discounted Prolong, state-pension access and the right to apply for off-world emigration regardless of their genetic assay.
The United Kingdoms political position on Earth through is somewhat fragile in so far as it technically remains at war with both Federal Europe as well as what was once UNASUR (and is best known now as the “Brazilian Empire”); the former due to its military presence in France and the latter over the long-term sovereignty dispute over the Falklands and, more recently, its military control of Antarctica and its surrounding resources.
The UK is also regarded, by many people on Earth in particular, as the nation most likely involved in some nefarious fashion with “The Conspiracy” and the rise to power of the Minds and GOTA. In addition to these reasons a resurgent Unified States of America, (rapidly developing into a political, economic and militarily force to be reckoned with), is on the brink of declaring war with the UK because of the British support of the American Legion and the granting of free-hold landmasses on two of its habitable planets to the American Legion.
It is likely that the more convinced Earth-Gov becomes that GOTA will not interfere in ISS affairs the more likely it is that the UK will find itself in a shooting war with, possibly, the USA, Federal Europe and UNASUR/BE and possibly all three all at the same time. Many regard this as a questionable military position for the UK despite its large and powerful forces and the risk of defeat-in-detail looms large for the British should the worst transpire.
As a result the hawks amongst the United Kingdom government have been arguing for pre-emptive strikes against the military of all three organisations whilst at the same time there is a small but rapidly growing grass-roots lobby who insist that the UK should surrender all contacts with the UKS and join Earth-Gov, both to avoid a major conflict that they may not win, and to show that the “remnants” of the UK side with Earth-Gov and the ISS, rather than continuing to support the UKS now that emigration Off-World is slowing to little more than a trickle: those left in the UK Super-Cities feeling ever more abandoned and disillusioned. As a result parties such as “Humanity First” and “Earth First” are gaining major support within the UK.
Technosphere:
The United Kingdoms (UKS) is an immensely powerful political faction comprising of the ‘Kingdoms’ of the United Kingdom and its protectorates of France and Antarctica, the Principalities of Alban and Loegyr (H-Class moons) and the three major exo-planetary Kingdoms of Prydain, Albion and Avalon. It also has lease-hold on another 19 potentially habitable planetary bodies and moons, 5 of which are now entering colonisation confirmation stages.
Within the Technosphere the UKS is regarded as a major power despite its relatively small population. This is down to its ownership of three of the most habitable planets within the existing Technosphere that have provided virtually trouble-free environments for UK colonists to expand rapidly into, and have produced a population boom that is unconstrained by available habitable land area or sustainability; the UKS has by far the largest habitable areas in which to expand (even taking into account extended life-spans).
UKS citizens have the highest HDI of any Polity and enjoy the lowest costs and easiest access to ‘Prolong’ resulting in an ever lengthening life-expectancy. UKS Habitats also have the highest TQ ratings and most developed societies on the Sentients-Charter scaling’s.
The UKS has major industrial bases in Medical technologies, drugs manufacturing, Orbital Construction, zero-G industry and spaceship manufacturing with no less than 7 space docks
The “structure” of the UKS however is vague with no laws or constitutions, legal responsibilities or formal ties (other than ethnic origins and Monarchy) to either the UK on Earth or between Habitats within the Technosphere. In fact the only directly tangible ties are that between the Monarchic families upon which all of the UKS’ planets have derived their free-hold lease. Put simply the various Royal families hold the planetary leases at the individual level and it is their familial ties, back to the “senior” Windsor family and High-King Henry that are the main tangible link between the disparate UKS Habitats. There is no overall governing body; each of the habitable bodies being controlled by a variety of governorships working under democratic (on the whole) locally elected Habitat Governments. This appears both archaic and anachronistic and few outside of the UKS understand how the system works or how unified decisions are ever made – other than by direct edict from the High King: something that has never happened and is, in fact, constrained within a still un-codified constitution.
Nevertheless it has proven to be a very stable faction of which many other political entities are envious despite being a living anachronism in an age where the relevance of monarchies seems it’s most pointless. The UKs and UKSs dependence on old institutions though can be directly attributed to High-King Henry and his personal interventions, pre and post-Intervention, and his family’s personal risk and sacrifices during the dark years of the UK when it was at its very lowest.
There can be no doubt that without the sacrifices of Henry and his family the UK as we know it would have ceased to exist and it would have been amalgamated into Federal Europe and faded from history. Since then the prosperity, longevity and life-span of every UK and UKS citizen has steadily improved year after year. The wealth of support from all levels of UK/UKS society toward Henry, a man who through Prolong could live for another 100 years or more, is all-but unshakable and there are very few “Brits” who are not staunch Monarchists.
“The British are irresponsible in the extreme – they created an AI without any controls or cut-outs and it was by sheer luck that it was sane and not a psychotic man-killer that most are.”
The very close ties that UKS members have with GOTA (and the MINDs) leaves much of humanity wary towards the UKS in terms of its long-term goals: British citizens were the most heavily geneered and had the highest numbers militarily-geneered by the BC and MINDS (before such geneering was banned by the Sentients’ Charter) conveniently meaning that “positive dominant inheritable traits” within UKS citizens are at the highest proportions of any social grouping outside of GOTA citizens. Given that this same “heavily geneered” society was then given “the very best” planets and habitable moons has generated an much envy, and animosity, which has built-up particularly back on Earth and the ISS where the British are regarded as elitist, arrogant, racist and anti-human.
The UKS core planets are Crown Dependencies of the UK Monarchy on Earth but do not fall under the jurisdiction of the UK government as each are created with a ‘Primary Habitat’ (political entity) which then gains legal recognition under Technosphere Law as what would once have been regarded as a Sovereign State back pre-Intervention.
This ‘Primary Habitat’ just happens to consist of the required minimum of “50,000 genetically diversified citizens” headed by an off-shoot of the British Monarchy elevated into a new position as King (or Queen) of a fully independent Habitat (‘nation’)…and yet still technically “subservient to the British Crown” through the monarchic system. (A very clever bit of legal side-stepping to keep land under control of a very limited group of people!)
The various “Primary Habitats” own and manage the planetary freeholds, with all Habitat land-grants being given out by them: meaning that each planet controls its own destiny, rather than having to follow the direction of the UK parliament on Earth, the Avalonian Parliament or the High-King.
Similarly there are seven habitable moons which, again, are crown Dependencies however these are “Principalities” allocated to the “new” Scottish and Welsh royal families and both of which follow the above political patterning.
In addition there are some core political groups, both within the Technosphere and on Earth, which are considered “permanent” partners of the UKS as a political body; these are Greater Scandinavia, Antarctica, Free-France (7R), Australia, Canada, the Caribbean Confederacy and the American Legion.
Whilst GOTA is always considered as a separate entity is also very common for GOTA and the UKS to side with each other on many issues, their inter-operation often being called “the special relationship” as was once that of the old USA and UK prior to Intervention, although in this instance knowing who is wagging whose tail is not as easy to determine.
The “real” political clout of the UKS though still originates from its absolute control of the ‘Prolong’ Bio-mite to which the vast majority of humanity, wherever it may be, is, too one degree or another, actively partaking of due to either, or both, reasons of its life-extending capability and its ability to cure many diseases and conditions including most cancers.
Until the UKs monopoly of this Bio-mite is broken it would be a very foolish group to go to war with either the UK or UKS because of the inevitable withdrawal of access to the “drug” that would certainly result. The “big fear” of the UKS though is that disenfranchised segments of the population “grounded” in the United Kingdom on Earth, vote for cessation and join Earth-Gov, in the process of which they continue to supply Prolong even if the UKS say it must be halted. The other alternative, that the UK hands over design of Prolong, or that the UK is conquered and the secret taken by force, is considered highly unlikely.
UKS Military:
The UKS has the largest Cold (space) Navy of any political body, almost two and a half times the size of its closest rival (China) but only one-third the size of the (reported) GOTA fleet strength and maintains the highest TQ level military force in the Technosphere. As the pre-eminent technological power (other than GOTA) it relies heavily upon robocised units with exceptionally few front-line troops (other than in the cold-Navy), robots usually being operated as remotes by cyberised troops at central stations far from any front lines or via Mobile Command & Control platforms behind the front-lines from which robocised units can be commanded.
The UK does, however, maintain a high number of Special Forces troops at the very highest levels of technology and with unprecedented levels of equipment support, foremost of these being the SAS, SBS and SSS. These three groups are widely regarded as being equivalent to GOTA T-PEA forces, even T-DF troops, although some sources claim that their proficiency and numbers are both inflated for PR reasons and that their true capabilities are far lower than that claimed.
The UKS is a major arms exporter and maintains a large Earth-bound military machine via the United Kingdom. The 7th Republic (Free-France) maintains an independent military force that utilises mostly UK equipment and training regimes and which operates and trains regular with UK & UKS forces but is on-paper subservient to British high-command. The Antarctic Protectorate also has its own independent forces including a very substantial naval force on Earth, based from the Falklands, but neither the Republic nor Antarctica have any forces Off-World other than diplomatic protection groups.
Having said that the UKS has now granted leases to both the French 7th Republic and Antarctica to start seeding their own off-world colonies, much to the chagrin of Earth-Gov, and it is inevitable that both will now embark on creating Cold-Navy elements and space troops
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Post by: griffen127
I talked to the company. they stated that there will be 4, thats right 4 different drop ships. So they will be make both of the ships seen. I just couldn't get an answerer on when they will start pumping these out.
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Post by: Ronin_eX
Please tell me there will be 15mm versions of all of this (and eventually those Komodo suits), because their stuff is perfect for what I have in mind for a new Tomorrow's War army. Just needs to be in the right scale.
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Post by: griffen127
they didn't say. But I would think so it seems to be there business model.
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Post by: deadairis
These guys can't start pumping up production fast enough. Super satisfied with the product, customer service ... great stuff.
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Post by: Kroothawk
Ronin_eX wrote:Please tell me there will be 15mm versions of all of this (and eventually those Komodo suits), because their stuff is perfect for what I have in mind for a new Tomorrow's War army. Just needs to be in the right scale.
Not before Khurasan make all their vehicles 28mm
AFAIK Antenocitis hasn't made a 15mm model yet, right?
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Post by: lord_blackfang
Kroothawk wrote: Ronin_eX wrote:Please tell me there will be 15mm versions of all of this (and eventually those Komodo suits), because their stuff is perfect for what I have in mind for a new Tomorrow's War army. Just needs to be in the right scale.
Not before Khurasan make all their vehicles 28mm
AFAIK Antenocitis hasn't made a 15mm model yet, right?
http://www.antenocitisworkshop.com/governance-of-technology/g-o-t-vehicles-15mm.html
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Post by: Alpharius
OK guys we get it - Kroothawk was wrong.
Back on topic please!
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Post by: deadairis
This doesn't get the dropship here any faster, but I want to really praise these guys for their customer service. Got me a missing bit quickly and without any hassle. Really looking forward to this here dropship!
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Post by: griffen127
I wish they would do a KS to fund there new figs, and make them in plastic. It would greatly decrease the cost of the fig for everyone and shipping would be reduced also. However, it doesn't look to be in the cards. O well here's hoping they can get this out before the end of the year.
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Post by: Pacific
Yes I guess the problem is plastic costs so much to produce in the first place.. I think they have said though that if the KS makes enough then some will be tooled in plastic and go on general release.
Although even if that doesn't happen, the resins and metals I have had from them (and I have a fair amount of the range) are really great; good casts and always well designed so that they fit together well.
Some other news gleamed from the Datasphere forum, apologies if it has already been printed in this thread:
- The kickstarter will potentially fund six drop-ships, so I'm guessing it won't be an either/or for the two different design concept pictures shown in the thread.
- around 14 other 'flyers' of some nature, whatever that might mean!
- Most of these are already designed
- as of this month they are pricing the civilian vehicles, those 2 drop-ships are currently in the 3d design process.
Great to see that things are moving forward in any case, think a lot of people are excited by what might be coming along with this Kickstarter!
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Post by: griffen127
Has anyone seen any other concepts? I have only seen 2.
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Post by: Pacific
Latest bits they have released concept art for, a couple of weeks ago:
In this one you can see how the track-balls can raise and lower the body of the tank, which is quite cool
It's worth signing up to their facebook page and checking their blog, most of the stuff appears there.
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Post by: CURNOW
another drop ship concept from there blog
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Post by: Melissia
Pacific wrote:Latest bits they have released concept art for, a couple of weeks ago:
[pics]
That's a rather neat looking design. Wonder what it'll translate to in an actual model.
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Post by: Kroothawk
Looks great.
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Post by: Pacific
Looks great, I wonder how long until the KS starts?
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Post by: PsychoticStorm
Hopefully long enough to be able to participate.
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Post by: Brother SRM
That drop ship looks like a futuristic Hind, and I like it a bunch.
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Post by: DaHedd
The latest one will be perfect for 40k Tau. Very nice.
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Post by: CURNOW
Concept Artwork for our UKS SAS troopers and Mechanised Infantry.You can find more info about the UKS faction here: Most frontline troops are mechanised robocised infantry, with humans filling-in for specialist forces such as the SAS, utilising the very highest of tech with heads-up displays, integral weapons and full-body armoured ’muscle suits’. The robocised infantry “mechs” are remote-operated from behind the lines or mobile control units.
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Post by: Pacific
Those are quite possibly the coolest thing I have seen all year.. Antenociti have got some extremely talented (and imaginative!) people working for them!
Why hasn't Kan posted on here yet? Or did he have a heart-attack after seeing these pics?
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Post by: PsychoticStorm
So he will release Stylianides "Hellgast" in miniature form, colour me intrigued.
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Post by: edlowe
Wow! They look stunning! Absolutely love the art work direction, are these going to be part of the ks in anyway?
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Post by: Cypher226
I've been a huge fan of these designs since I saw some of them over on deviantart an age ago. Can't wait to lay my hands on them as minis!
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Post by: PsychoticStorm
Still the "Hellenic" as SAS? I feel Antenociti should have left that out.
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Post by: shasolenzabi
Me likey the Krokodil dropship
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Post by: Barzam
Well damn. Those are really neat looking. I just wanted to eventually get a dropship to use with my Enforcers. Now it looks like I may have to get a whole new army with them.
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Post by: Dr Mathias
Great looking concepts, these will be a breath of fresh air. I really like the Antenociti stuff I have. The figures are slimmer than I like but the vehicles are fantastic.
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Post by: Kanluwen
Pacific wrote:Those are quite possibly the coolest thing I have seen all year.. Antenociti have got some extremely talented (and imaginative!) people working for them!
Why hasn't Kan posted on here yet? Or did he have a heart-attack after seeing these pics?
I saw those pictures almost a year ago on Concept Art World, actually.
I will try to find it again and show it, but I quite like the art.
I notice there is one thing missing in the form of a dropship concept art the artist had up but then pulled from the gallery.
Edit:
Apparently ALL of the artist's stuff is no longer on Concept Art World...or at least I can no longer readily find it and my bookmarks are dead.
Interesting development as the galleries were all done(purportedly) with the permission of the artists themselves, as a kind of secondary 'portfolio'.
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Post by: warboss
I'm curious to see if they keep the scale/dimensions of the concept art in the figs. I'd imagine some of those tiny thin barrels and antenna would be very difficult to cast in quality and quantity.
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Post by: 02Laney
Superb looking stuff - the quality of this is brilliant. I love the last picture in particular - awesome assassin. Will the weapons be correctly scaled (like the artwork)?
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Post by: Ouze
This stuff looks pretty awesome.
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Post by: griffen127
They can't get these out fast enough. I am really pumped about this.
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
Stealing even more wind out of Defiance Games. Great for Antenociti. I ccan't wait to buy a few of those suits, purely for the fun of it.
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Post by: Absolutionis
Interesting. So Antenociti's Workshop got the awesome StTheo to work concepts for them. It's great, and I love them.
I've always been a fan of Theo Stylianides's "Helldiver" series of art.
http://sttheo.deviantart.com/
AW had better do those concept justice! I have faith.
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Post by: Pacific
The concepts are incredible, obviously a 28mm will never be able to get close to that level of detail, but it will be interesting to see how close they can get!
Definitely think there is a market for this, as a slightly more hard sci-fi concept than Infinity (without the manga/anime elements).
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Post by: PsychoticStorm
Any increase of the sci fi market is good in my opinion, if ti accompanied with great models of a great concept so much the better.
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Post by: PhantomViper
Is the infantry to be sold also in 15mm or are they going to be made only in 28mm?
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Post by: Kroothawk
Wasn't aware that Defiance Games ever had any wind
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Post by: Pacific
PhantomViper wrote:Is the infantry to be sold also in 15mm or are they going to be made only in 28mm?
That's an interesting question. So far most of the stuff they have done has been 28mm, followed by 15mm later on, so perhaps this system and miniatures will follow suit?
I would say probably at least 80-85% of their stuff is 28mm though, if one includes all the terrain accessories and the like.
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Post by: happygolucky
As soon as I saw the WaylandYutani Symbol, I got really giddy with excitement, These model artworks are amazing, will they be making Xenomorphs and space Jockeys with predators as well?
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Post by: Absolutionis
happygolucky wrote:As soon as I saw the WaylandYutani Symbol, I got really giddy with excitement, These model artworks are amazing, will they be making Xenomorphs and space Jockeys with predators as well?
I think it's mostly StTheo making SciFi art on his DeviantArt inspired by the thoughts of putting them in the Aliens universe. Then, when Antenociti's Workshop contacted him for concept art, they were already ready. Just a guess.
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Post by: CURNOW
tony allways had a lot of hot air coming out his mouth does that count ?
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Post by: Pacific
News from Antenociti's Facebook this is the "Ltd Edition all-resin Merekat-GTK .. will be available for pre-orders shortly..."
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Post by: Alpharius
I want one!
Hopefully someone (hint hint!) will let us know when they're available for pre-order!
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Post by: Kroothawk
Looks like the tank has a sports car radiator grille.
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Post by: Kanluwen
That is awesome. It is a nice little armored fighting vehicle.
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Post by: notprop
I don't know why but this puts me in mind of Jayce and the Wheeled Warriors?
Also Ltd Edition, GW sales technics spreading to the wider market? In all seriousness this must have an on going appeal so why limit it?
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Post by: Kanluwen
notprop wrote:I don't know why but this puts me in mind of Jayce and the Wheeled Warriors?
Also Ltd Edition, GW sales technics spreading to the wider market? In all seriousness this must have an on going appeal so why limit it?
The "limited edition" part might be for the fact that this one is all-resin, but they plan on doing a plastic/resin kit later or something similar.
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Post by: Pacific
notprop wrote:I don't know why but this puts me in mind of Jayce and the Wheeled Warriors?
YES that's it, was wondering what it reminded me of! Just needs a big claw thing on the top of it, and a strangely levitating fish creature alongside it now
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Post by: dwspainting
pretty sure the limited edition refers to an all resin model (Jed can probabley do all the resin casting in-house) and a metal/resin model fill follow a little later.
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Post by: Barzam
dwspainting wrote:pretty sure the limited edition refers to an all resin model (Jed can probabley do all the resin casting in-house) and a metal/resin model fill follow a little later.
That was my thought as well. Somebody ought to update the thread title though. I came in here expecting an actual update about the Kickstarter.
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Post by: Pacific
Latest update:
"Wales & West" Heavy Sentry - multi-part configurable robot that you can place in a multitude of poses yourself - the legs and feet are fully configurable, being able to change position at "ankle" "Knee" "lower thigh" and "upper thigh" - the upper thigh can be rotated on the central pivot and the upper-body can be positioned as liked on the bell-joint. On the head the chin-gun can be rotated and both the missile and heavy canon can be adjusted horizontally. The result being that you can put these bots into a heck of a lot of positions with minimal fuss.
This fella should be available in September in all-metal and we may also do a high-quality resin Ltd Edition.
Can imagine a really cool scenario with this where your team have to get to some console, past the security guys, and this is the 'boss' - no doubt someone doing an ED209 "you have 10 seconds to comply" impression while they are playing
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
I could also see myself using those for Mecha Front.
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Post by: Construct
Mercedes GTK Concept by Pascal Eggert (iPeg):
Also, Skirmisher Mech by Alexander Iglesias (flyingdebris):
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Actually I thought of a Mercedes grill, but didn't dare to name it
Hope they asked for a licence, as it is an obvious clone.
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Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured
I'm sure they've got a licence from the artists concerned as they've licenced the art for some of the dropships
You can see the clearly Mercedes bit on the badge from the concept art has been dropped from the actual vehical cast
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Post by: griffen127
anyone hear any news on this front?
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Post by: Barzam
I've been wondering about it too. They announced it back in the summer, and then nothing. For that matter, both that jeep above and the drone haven't shown up in their shop either.
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Post by: judgedoug
They've been busy working on the Mantic stuff
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Post by: Kroothawk
I should have known it's them again
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Post by: Pacific
A new announcement on their LifeInvader page
We have another couple of exceptionally busy weeks ahead of us, after which we should be back on-track for normal services, meaning that we will catch up (very quickly) on any items that are out of stock (of our own resin and metal).
We will also soon have Mat-O-War back in stock, along with K&M trees in December, as well as a good few new clear-cast resin figures and even vehicles.
Those waiting for the sci-fi civilian vehicles will hopefully see some moment and announcements before Christmas and we will also then have some new resin figures for the GOT range as well as a couple of new vehicles.
Development of the 28mm and 15mm drop-ships is also due to commence just prior to Christmas, still looking toward April 2014 for release if at all possible.
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Post by: Alpharius
This is welcome news, as I'd like to get a mat and some of the trees along with a bunch of other AW products...
Thanks for posting this update!
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Post by: Pacific
Yes I was thinking about getting one of the Mats as well, think they look pretty good!
Missed this last time I looked at the site:
Up for pre-order, the Merekat Scout Vehicle (think this is crying out for a Mercedez badge on the centre of the grill there )
http://www.antenocitisworkshop.com/merekat-gtk-scout-vehicle.html
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Post by: HisDivineShadow
That is really a remarkable concept to production translation.
I may have to pick one up.
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Post by: Fix
That is some really nice work.
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Post by: Riquende
Cool, will look good as an Enforcer patrol car in Warpath.
Is there a date on when it's actually being released?
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Post by: Pacific
Meant to be 2nd December I believe. Yes, definitely think that thing has a lot of uses (would be very good for Infinity for instance).
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Post by: Pacific
Antenociti are now selling the Mat'O'War again, as far as I know the only UK-based seller at present.
http://www.antenocitisworkshop.com/wargames-scenery-terrain/mat-o-war-wargaming-mats.html
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Post by: Alpharius
A 6' x 4' (more or less) green mat for $37?
I'm in!
With a lot more stuff thrown in too, of course!
Thanks for the heads up!
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Post by: RiTides
Pacific wrote:Latest update:
"Wales & West" Heavy Sentry - multi-part configurable robot that you can place in a multitude of poses yourself - the legs and feet are fully configurable, being able to change position at "ankle" "Knee" "lower thigh" and "upper thigh" - the upper thigh can be rotated on the central pivot and the upper-body can be positioned as liked on the bell-joint. On the head the chin-gun can be rotated and both the missile and heavy canon can be adjusted horizontally. The result being that you can put these bots into a heck of a lot of positions with minimal fuss.
This fella should be available in September in all-metal and we may also do a high-quality resin Ltd Edition.
Can imagine a really cool scenario with this where your team have to get to some console, past the security guys, and this is the 'boss' - no doubt someone doing an ED209 "you have 10 seconds to comply" impression while they are playing
Wow, that's awesome! I totally missed this... did it end up going up for sale?
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Post by: Antenociti
http://www.antenocitisworkshop.com/heavy-sentry-drone.html
Lot of news coming in January btw...
lots of new stuff, kickstarter previews and looking for new staff!
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Post by: Riquende
Is the kickstarter going to be for both of the dropship designs that have been shown over the past year, or just one of them?
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Post by: Antenociti
As much Info as I can give right now is:
Kickstarter will be for Sci-fi Scenery, interior & exterior, some MDF kits, and civilian vehicles... looking at February/March atm, things are a bit liquid atm due to heavy commitments casting for other peoples kickstarters.. which has to be out of the way before i'll start ours.
Cant say anything about Military vehicles at the moment.... other than, yes, there are 3 dropships (yes 3, Grendel, Harrier & Nemesis) and 2 "flyers" (one of which is the Krokodil) ready to be started, but we're waiting on *something else* that needs to be resolved first, before we get them into a KS.
Sorry about being so cryptic, its just that we're waiting on various *things* to come together, most of which will be at he start of next year, until then its nigh-on impossible to give specifics or fixed timings, sry.
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(Ref the Merekat GTK - yeah, i forgot to remove the Merc badge didnt i? oopsie...)
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Edit:
This is the Original concept for the Nemesis FTI:
It was designed as a drop-shuttle for a space-game, so we're making some changes to bring it more win line with a squad-drop vessel, rather than a shuttle, but the fundamental design wont change. ..we'll be adding a more suitable cockpit & canopy and changing the scale-ref of superficial features.
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Post by: Vain
That is gorgeous!
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Post by: Gallahad
@Antenociti,
Any plans on doing anything in HIPS plastic (traditional injection molded plastic)?
I know that working in a new material would be a lot to bite off and lead to many unforseen problems, but I get a lot of happy feelings thinking about a world in which I can buy Antenociti vehicles and figures at the pricepoint and quantity that injection plastic allows.
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Post by: PsychoticStorm
Well, the more this gets delayed the more I am comfortable with it, many Kickstarters this year and I need a space before I commit to another one.
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Post by: Riquende
Antenociti wrote:Cant say anything about Military vehicles at the moment.... other than, yes, there are 3 dropships (yes 3, Grendel, Harrier & Nemesis) and 2 "flyers" (one of which is the Krokodil) ready to be started, but we're waiting on *something else* that needs to be resolved first, before we get them into a KS.
Sorry about being so cryptic, its just that we're waiting on various *things* to come together, most of which will be at he start of next year, until then its nigh-on impossible to give specifics or fixed timings, sry.
Okay, cool. Just wanted to check there were still plans in place to make them, I read a comment on some forum somewhere that the Grendel had replaced the Harrier, and I want both!
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Post by: Antenociti
Gallahad wrote:@Antenociti,
Any plans on doing anything in HIPS plastic (traditional injection molded plastic)?
I know that working in a new material would be a lot to bite off and lead to many unforseen problems, but I get a lot of happy feelings thinking about a world in which I can buy Antenociti vehicles and figures at the pricepoint and quantity that injection plastic allows.
my usual gaming oppo~ is actually an engineer who designs robotic assembly lines including injection moulding machines, so we've kinda got a resident expert in the larger end of injection moulding.. and we are talking with a UK operation also.
So its not out of the question.
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Post by: Kroothawk
Nemesis Dropship looks great, don't change too much. Hope it is 28/30 mm scale as the others.
Also nice that there is one kickstarter not ending in December
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Post by: Antenociti
28mm + 15mm + 6mm is the idea for all of them.
The Nemesis wont be changing much other than the cockpit area, overall design and core features wont change at all... its a more "brutal" design which we like, especially versus the "sleek" Harrier.
Grendel wouldnt look out of place with either Colonial marines or even some GW stuff.
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Post by: Pacific
Words cannot describe how much I am looking forward to seeing this must stuff... it's unhealthy!
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Post by: PsychoticStorm
Pacific wrote:Words cannot describe how much I am looking forward to seeing this must stuff... it's unhealthy!
I find that attitude, quite healthy to be honest!
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Post by: streamdragon
Love it! Reminds me of the MAKO from Mass Effect!
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Post by: Pacific
It's great isn't it. Take a look at their website, I think their sci-fi vehicle designs are some of the coolest on the market - bar none.
Really looking forward to what designs are waiting in the pipeline..
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Post by: Dr Mathias
I feel like if anybody could do 28mm hard plastic vehicles right, it would be Antenociti.
The resin is fantastic, don't get me wrong. Just dreaming.
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Post by: fattdex
Dear Antenociti,
Pls make something that looks like this in 15mm so I can finish my damn GZG Crusty Aliens project I have had boxed for two years.
Love from,
Everyone who has bought crusties
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Post by: Antenociti
i've actually got a crustie force from GZG which i'm starting to paint next year .... so ....no promises.... but maybe (15mm) ;-)
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Post by: AAN
Antenociti wrote:i've actually got a crustie force from GZG which i'm starting to paint next year .... so ....no promises.... but maybe (15mm) ;-)
Hmm, D9 seems to be all the rage:
(Great minds DO think alike, eh?)
more: http://www.adpublishing.de/html/shantytown.html Automatically Appended Next Post: Oh and BTW; the Nemesis FTI looks absolutely fabulous!!!
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Post by: Sikil
I'd love vehicles for the "Crusties"! 28 mm would be awesome too!!
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Post by: Antenociti
I did have an idea for a crusty APC - it was pretty blocky, like the dropship and i think 6 wheeled, but do you think i can remember where it is?....
On the other hand, what do you think of the Tomkah from Mass effect? something l like that might work...
or this even:
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Post by: Riquende
28mm Mako please!
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Post by: Pacific
That's the vehicle from the first Mass Effect, rather than that rather crummy hover-thing from the second one right? If so, definitely agree with you!
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Post by: fattdex
I think that if Cruties had a land APC, it would be a walker with insectoid legs, not wheels (somewhat like their dropship with proper cricket legs)
The Tomkah is pretty cool, but it is rather close to the south african Roolikat/Ratel based AFV and/or the Casspir APC that M.N.U forces use, not quite alien (stick legs on it tho..)
(sorry for the tangent)
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Post by: SlaveToDorkness
those bases...I must have!!!
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Post by: griffen127
So can some tell me what Cruties are? thx
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Post by: fattdex
15mm range of aliens that probably live in a south african district from GZG
http://shop.groundzerogames.co.uk/index.php?_a=viewCat&catId=12
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Post by: Looky Likey
Does anybody have the dimensions or comparisons shots of the Merekat GTK Scout Vehicle with GW vehicles? Really want a couple for my IG but I need to know what it'll count as before I invest.
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Post by: Riquende
I have can give you the dimensions of the Merekat, but I don't have any 28mm GW stuff so I can't do you a photo (unless you want to see it dwarf an Epic Rhino).
Measurements are near enough 10cm x 6cm x 4cm (with turret). Note that the axle 'arms' can be assembled in different positions so there's a little scope for making it taller/shorter etc.
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Post by: Pacific
Don't think this has been posted here yet?
WIP of a Sushi Bar, coming in 2014. Definitely looking forward to this, hopefully it will be as competitively priced as some of their other building releases.
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Post by: Alpharius
Those all look great - and I'm looking forward to adding them, and more variety, to my INFINITY table!
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Post by: Barzam
MDF, I assume? I bet some of that stuff would go great in a Deadzone game, too.
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Post by: Eggs
I wonder if that sushi bar will be part of their Sci fi terrain kickstarter?
Having just went in on an urban board from the games and gears one, I'm all hot under the collar for their terrain kickstarter. Hopefully it'll be a couple of months away, to give my wallet some much needed r&r...
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Post by: Pacific
Here you go Eggs, from earlier on in the thread
Kickstarter will be for Sci-fi Scenery, interior & exterior, some MDF kits, and civilian vehicles... looking at February/March atm, things are a bit liquid atm due to heavy commitments casting for other peoples kickstarters.. which has to be out of the way before i'll start ours.
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Post by: Eggs
I suspect I'll be spending a lot of money on that one. Antenocitis stuff is pretty droolworthy.
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Post by: Pacific
Latest on the Antenociti LifeInvader page - very cool!
A little mdf laser-cut box frame for 1.5" digital picture frame keyfobs - the keyfob sits insides and rotates up to 150 images. removable top, button access to the lower rear.
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Post by: PsychoticStorm
Nice, but first time I see this gadget.
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Post by: General Hobbs
If I can make a suggestion....Krokodil is a drug sold in America, a heroin derivative that rots the flesh where injected. Maybe a name change or a spelling change is in order?
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Post by: Barzam
This isn't the big announcement I was waiting for.
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Post by: Pacific
Latest from AttentionSeek, comment says "Designed for....? (and, yes, it is rather big)"
For Infinity.. God-knows what it is though?!
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Post by: PsychoticStorm
LOL even the white blobs, perfect!
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Post by: Kroothawk
Development of the 28mm and 15mm drop-ships is also due to commence just prior to Christmas, still looking toward April 2014 for release if at all possible.
Antenociti wrote:As much Info as I can give right now is:
Kickstarter will be for Sci-fi Scenery, interior & exterior, some MDF kits, and civilian vehicles... looking at February/March atm, things are a bit liquid atm due to heavy commitments casting for other peoples kickstarters.. which has to be out of the way before i'll start ours.
Cant say anything about Military vehicles at the moment.... other than, yes, there are 3 dropships (yes 3, Grendel, Harrier & Nemesis) and 2 "flyers" (one of which is the Krokodil) ready to be started, but we're waiting on *something else* that needs to be resolved first, before we get them into a KS.
So Dropship release February, March or April? Any news about that, now that April has arrived?
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Post by: overtyrant
Love the bikes but the cars seem a bit naff. Maybe it's the paintjob (but not the reflected cityscape, that looks nice!).
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Post by: Sikil
Nice sci-fi cars! Might end up backing such a kickstarter for a handful of those...
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Post by: Talking Banana
The cars are too Chibi for my taste.
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Post by: Kanluwen
Kroothawk wrote:Development of the 28mm and 15mm drop-ships is also due to commence just prior to Christmas, still looking toward April 2014 for release if at all possible.
Antenociti wrote:As much Info as I can give right now is:
Kickstarter will be for Sci-fi Scenery, interior & exterior, some MDF kits, and civilian vehicles... looking at February/March atm, things are a bit liquid atm due to heavy commitments casting for other peoples kickstarters.. which has to be out of the way before i'll start ours.
Cant say anything about Military vehicles at the moment.... other than, yes, there are 3 dropships (yes 3, Grendel, Harrier & Nemesis) and 2 "flyers" (one of which is the Krokodil) ready to be started, but we're waiting on *something else* that needs to be resolved first, before we get them into a KS.
So Dropship release February, March or April? Any news about that, now that April has arrived?
As of right now, it looks like it's tied to Infinity/Corvus Belli. CB is making a "big announcement" on April 26th or 27th.
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Post by: Gallahad
Yeah, I'm not digging those cars. The future would have to be pretty bleak before I'd be caught dead in one of those things.
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Post by: Pacific
But, you have to think of the mileage, your main consideration when petrol/gas costs $100 a gallon!
The cars are too Chibi for my taste.
A little perhaps, although I don't think they are quite that distorted!
There is a real shortage of sci-fi civilian vehicles, not that stuff on the market and Antenociti seem to be one of the only companies that do it. I'm sure they will be popular.
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Post by: judgedoug
Those cars look like the next evolution of those weird ugly little Smart Cars - so, perfect.
(2013 2LT/RS Camaro driver here)
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Post by: Zond
May have missed it, but is this going to be 15mm, 28mm or both?
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Post by: Dr Mathias
I think those add-on resin details will set these off nicely and help mitigate the 'Hello, I'm flat MDF' look that most laser cut kits have.
I like the TAG bay, do the large doors seem small though? TAGs might be ducking to get under
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Post by: Siygess
I'm really starting to think that MDF with resin detail kits is the best compromise of price vs detail vs uniqueness. Suddenly I regret starting work on my Cyberpunk-themed board.
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Post by: PsychoticStorm
I have to say they look great!
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Post by: Salacious Greed
Those are simply awesome, lets hope they don't cost an arm and a leg...
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Post by: Pacific
Those look absolutely fantastic, some of the best building models I have seen.
Hopefully they will follow the pricing levels set so far by Antenociti, and not be prohibitively expensive!
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Post by: SlaveToDorkness
I don't care.....I have two of each!!!!!
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Post by: Kilkrazy
Hopefully the detailing parts will be available as separate items, for people who want to make their own buildings from foamcore board and so on.
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Post by: Pacific
Saw some of the new buildings at Salute and they look.. fantastic!
Did anyone manager to get any pics or get a chance to have a go at their Governance of Terra demo game?
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Post by: griffen127
Sooooo what ever happened to the drop ships?
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griffen127 wrote:Soo what ever happened to the drop ships?
Good question...perhaps it is time for a mod or OP to change the title since it'll be primarily Infinity style terrain from now on.
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Post by: Alpharius
I think we can wait until the 'Big Announcement' from CB towards the end of the month and/or something from Antenocitis Workshop too!
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Post by: SlaveToDorkness
Screw the Dropship, I NEED those buildings!
Seriously...cough 'em up!
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Post by: Ouze
Those resin detailing bits are really, really awesome looking. I had never really wanted any of these kits until I saw those; they really do transform them.
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Post by: d-usa
Kilkrazy wrote:Hopefully the detailing parts will be available as separate items, for people who want to make their own buildings from foamcore board and so on.
I hope so, I would buy quite a few of them.
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Post by: Kilkrazy
I have a number of the older detailing items. They are a brilliant way to spruce up an otherwise plain piece of scenery.
Doors and bits of equipment like heat exchangers, fuel pumps, comms stations and so on, add a lot of convincing detail that would be a PITA to make for yourself.
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Post by: d-usa
I've used the always handy pegasus sets for stuff like that, and I'm always looking for more parts to get more variety. I've glued them to cheap cardboard houses that I picked up at Hobby Lobby and on electrical boxes that I picked up at Home Depot.
Antenocitis would get a good chunk of money from me if this is something I can buy separate from the buildings.
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Post by: Antenociti
Kilkrazy wrote:Hopefully the detailing parts will be available as separate items, for people who want to make their own buildings from foamcore board and so on.
All detailing resin will be available in separate scenery packs so that the gamer can make their own buildings and just add the scenery details they want. Also means you can scratch-build your own building, or change an existing one, to match exactly what you want.
griffen127 wrote:Sooooo what ever happened to the drop ships?
Some claim that high in the sky, when dark has fallen, that they have seen an 'Azure Dragon' ..... but none have lived to tell it true.
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Post by: Kilkrazy
Excellent!
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Post by: griffen127
Antenocitis. We where told a year ago about dropships. All I want to know is if you are going to do them. Not want to do them, but will do them. Can you answerer yes or no?
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Post by: d-usa
Antenociti wrote:Kilkrazy wrote:Hopefully the detailing parts will be available as separate items, for people who want to make their own buildings from foamcore board and so on.
All detailing resin will be available in separate scenery packs so that the gamer can make their own buildings and just add the scenery details they want. Also means you can scratch-build your own building, or change an existing one, to match exactly what you want.
Awesome
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Post by: Pacific
Sorry guys posted this in the Infinity section but should have put it here really.
From the Antenociti LifeInvader page
Booked-in a new 3d Designers over the weekend for around a dozen new civilian vehicles of various types, sizes and degrees of "sci-fi-ness"... which frees up Jed to concentrate on developing scenery for " a certain game".
Meaning that Jed's been working on 25mm, 40mm and 5mm bases over the weekend, plus more scenery scatter items for sci-fi tables.. you can never have too much scatter.
On top of that we will soon be releasing some new fantasy sets for interior and exterior detailing, as well as some resin house kits... expect more and more detailed news once the website and blog have been fully updated.
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Post by: Antenociti
griffen127 wrote:Antenocitis. We where told a year ago about dropships. All I want to know is if you are going to do them. Not want to do them, but will do them. Can you answerer yes or no?
Yes.
Since before Xmas 2013 we've been working on an awful lot of things that we've not been able to discuss...that will (very, very) soon change to "we can now discuss openly at long long last"... :-)
At this moment in time: We have three dropships undergoing conceptual art changes in preparation for 3d modelling.
We have another 5 'candidate' designs that have not been shown to the public.
So, for those that can join the dots, yes that makes 8 dropships.
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Post by: Alpharius
8 drop ships?!?
Sweet!
Guess how many factions there are in INFINITY?
(Not counting MERCS!)
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Post by: judgedoug
I will clear space for 8 dropships, then.
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Post by: Barzam
Are some of these based on the GOT designs that were going to be used in the Kickstarter, or are these going to be entirely new designs?
What ever happened to the trackball tanks?
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Post by: griffen127
Antencoiti, thank you for clearing up the confusion.
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Post by: Kroothawk
Yes, thanks for that, as I am also waiting for the dropships.
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Post by: Antenociti
Barzam wrote:Are some of these based on the GOT designs that were going to be used in the Kickstarter, or are these going to be entirely new designs?
What ever happened to the trackball tanks?
I know everybody hates hearing this but.... we still can't say everything we want to *yet*
However, the GOT vehicles will continue as an independent range of military vehicles unattached to any ruleset.... however some of the vehicle concepts which we had obtained IPR for (some time ago) have been re-tasked to one, or more, of our partners.
Its all a bit confusing at the moment, but in the next week or so things will become a lot clearer as we can discuss a lot more than we currently can.
The trackball tanks are still in the GOT production queue though... they've not been forgotten, we've just been exceptionally busy starting to get things ready for various changes in how we manufacture things, distribute them and so forth..... we've only recently expanded properties, taken on new staff and are looking for more, plus we're working with a total of three partners now, most of which work is effectively still under NDA.
But it wont be long now before we can say a lot more and hopefully clear up a few things.
One thing to bear in mind though is that with us working with partners the development cycle is a lot longer simply because of having to back-and-forth concepts until everybody is happy with them, not too mention ensuring that products are compatible with rules and so on and so forth...and when your development cycle includes advances in rules, new products (unreleased products) or new Kickstarters (such as with mantic f.ex) then *just* having a pretty concept picture is no longer good enough - we have to put a lot more time and effort into ensuring that the scenery fits with its intended role in the games (as well as looking right)....and that takes time.
We've not just been sitting on stuff though, work has never stopped, however, we now have the responsibility to make scenery for other peoples Universes, and we have to get that right at every level, from modelling through to packaging and distribution...which for a little company like us is a really, really big challenge... there's only 4 of us after all!
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Post by: Barzam
That's actually great news. I'm glad to hear that the trackball tanks are still going to happen. Pleased to hear that the GOT vehicles aren't truly going away either.
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Post by: GrimDork
Trackball tanks... as in... Tank Police style? Ye gods, take my money now.
Keeping an eye on this, may have to pledge for one of those sick dropships
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Post by: Pacific
Update on the LifeInvader page
Little bit of news regarding our new Habitats, the first of which will be out within the next month:
They will be pre-painted including some interior detail and come with pre-coloured resin components for the interior and exterior... which means that you can assemble them and put them on the table with no painting required at all.
Alternatively you can buy a plain Habitat with raw MDF, no paint and no resin, although all the resin components that go into and on them, can be bought separately in upcoming new scenery packs.
We havent finalized prices yet but the plain MDF will be as affordable as the previous versions and the pre-painted version will not be extravagantly priced either.
More news when we get it...
Pre-painted terrain as an option - interesting! Don't think anyone has taken that route with MDF terrain yet? I'm keen to see how much this will cost.
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Post by: kilcin
Pacific wrote:Update on the LifeInvader page
Little bit of news regarding our new Habitats, the first of which will be out within the next month:
They will be pre-painted including some interior detail and come with pre-coloured resin components for the interior and exterior... which means that you can assemble them and put them on the table with no painting required at all.
Alternatively you can buy a plain Habitat with raw MDF, no paint and no resin, although all the resin components that go into and on them, can be bought separately in upcoming new scenery packs.
We havent finalized prices yet but the plain MDF will be as affordable as the previous versions and the pre-painted version will not be extravagantly priced either.
More news when we get it...
Pre-painted terrain as an option - interesting! Don't think anyone has taken that route with MDF terrain yet? I'm keen to see how much this will cost.
Go West Terrain Studios is currently running a kickstarter for pre-painted MDF terrain for Infinity and it doesn't seem to be doing well so far. I believe being pre-painted is actually a major drawback for them, or at least the limits on color choice.
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Post by: Bolognesus
4grounds does prepainted mdf terrain; mostly historical, but it does exist (and from what I've seen it's pretty nice!)
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Post by: Pacific
Sorry, I should have specified 'MDF terrain for Infinity'
It's good that they are giving the option, in any case. Sure that will cater for the 'more money than time, really wants to play Infinity' players that I'm sure are probably a fairly sizeable contingent.
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Post by: Barzam
precolored MDF terrain that's supposed to still be affordable? That could be rather cool.
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Post by: Saxon
Bolognesus wrote:4grounds does prepainted mdf terrain; mostly historical, but it does exist (and from what I've seen it's pretty nice!)
I have a few 4Ground buildings and they are excellent. They are fairly good value as well.
While they are mostly historical at the moment, they are releasing a fantasy range soon and some space corridors later this year (I think).
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Post by: Antenociti
There will always be an 'unpainted, no-resin, low-cost option' whenever we do a 'pre-painted + resin' version.
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kilcin wrote:
Go West Terrain Studios is currently running a kickstarter for pre-painted MDF terrain for Infinity and it doesn't seem to be doing well so far. I believe being pre-painted is actually a major drawback for them, or at least the limits on color choice.
And not possibly due to it isnt officially "designed for Infinity", plus the KS owner doesnt actually have a laser cutter does he? (quick look it sounded like he needed the funds to buy one from the kickstarter money)... plus they have no accompanying resin, internal or external... nor 9 years of experienced production, or a company with 18+ laser cutters in their setup, or development taking into consideration 3rd edition rule changes... and then lets not consider styling/design at all.
but, apart from those minor niggles, I suppose you could consider it not being a runaway success just being because its "pre-painted".
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To clarify some news from Ficzone: We are now an official partner for Corvus Belli’s “Infinity the Game”, our remit to produce scenery and vehicles (as scenic pieces) for the game; land, sea or air and we will be adjusting our website and some ranges to tie-in with this change over the next few weeks.
Scenery, vehicles and buildings will be available retail and wholesale (through Corvus Bellis existing distribution chain) as well as directly from us here at Antenocitis Workshop.
“Land, sea or air” means that we have no restrictions about the types of vehicles we can produce, we’re currently concentrating on civilian vehicles with over 22 designs now in development, however we are not precluded from developing military vehicles on the basis that these are scenic pieces and nothing more.
This does not mean that vehicles will not play a part in the game though; as with all partners CB work to include scenery from partners into scenarios and the back-story…but CB are not moving the game away from skirmish level, so any military vehicles that we did produce would be cosmetic / scenery, not active gaming pieces.
What it does do though is give us a fantastic opportunity to produce products for all the varied factions and environments within the Infinity Universe and, for example we are currently working on the “Azure Dragon” which is a type of YuJing drop-ship.
Our scenery and vehicles are being tailored to work with the new silhouette system recently announced at Ficzone, ensuring that the work we do now is “future proofed” and we are, on that subject, in the process of manufacturing new base ranges to fit the three base sizes that will now be standard for the game (25mm, 40mm and 55mm).
In addition to this we are busy re-working swathes of the items that were in our “old” Kickstarter plans, which are now being adjusted to fulfil roles in what will be, to all intents and purposes, our Infinity Kickstarter.
To give an idea of the level of detail we are intending: where we once had a single set of weapons lockers, we will now have weapons lockers by factional weaponry. Gun-crates will be factionalised, containing different weapons from different factions and our buildings will also have faction orientated elements for those buildings.
Our new buildings will be released in a format that allows you to assemble them and play with them right away – fully pre-painted MDF and pre-coloured resin that matches the painted MDF meaning that you don’t need to paint anything on them at all. They will also come with external resin by default, so the doors, windows, vents and other details will come as part of the package, right down to light-gathering rod in their external lights… and all this work being done by our in-game company avatar ‘Phoenix Industries’.
Fans of detailing will no doubt also be pleased to know that every building has its own complimentary set of resin for detailing the interiors, covering more than 120 pieces of scenery “Designed for Infinity”.
On top of that we are working on three different formats of gaming mat, tailored to match our buildings (and those of other partners), in various materials, modular and single-piece for multiple terrain environments.
So, it’s going to be a busy year!
We will provide more detail on individual projects as we can, particularly here and via the official Infinity forums once we are set up there.
In the meantime we would like to point out that, over the last few months, we’ve been constantly putting off giving detail about our kickstarter asking many of you to “be patient and wait”.
We hope that the reasons behind that are now clear; we’ve been working with CB since the end of 2013, so this is not a spontaneous spur-of-the-moment change, however working with a partner like Corvus Belli, who have such a rich and detailed Universe has meant that we have had to revisit certain aspect of our work, drop some, adjust others, and the natural too-and-fro when working with a partner also extends development times.
On top of that we now have to potentially cope with a bigger audience than we would otherwise have done, so there has been, and still is, a lot more work to do to ensure that our products, kickstarter and everything else is kept to the high standards that Corvus Belli themselves attain.
We’re very confident we can do that and we really hope that you enjoy the products that we will be producing “designed for Infinity”.
Jed, Nadine, Roy & Katherine
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Post by: Trapthem
This tied up with 3rd ed vehicles being multiterrain and air mebbe?
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Post by: GrimDork
Wow, I already wanted a couple of GoT things, looks like you guys are trying pretty hard to get my money, cool
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Post by: Antenociti
Trapthem wrote:This tied up with 3rd ed vehicles being multiterrain and air mebbe?
nope - Infinity is staying strictly skirmish.
any vehicles are scenery only.
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Post by: Eggs
Just to confirm, is your kickstarted going to be for the building terrain, vehicles, or both? Do you have a rough idea how much it is going to cost to deck out a full table? I'm going to have to start saving....
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Post by: GrimDork
I'm already sure I couldn't afford to cover an entire table in AW goodness, I had to back out of the detailing bits for deadzone. I definitely am interested in dropships though! I kind of want one of those little flyers they already produce too.
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Post by: kilcin
Antenociti wrote: And not possibly due to it isnt officially "designed for Infinity", plus the KS owner doesnt actually have a laser cutter does he? (quick look it sounded like he needed the funds to buy one from the kickstarter money)... plus they have no accompanying resin, internal or external... nor 9 years of experienced production, or a company with 18+ laser cutters in their setup, or development taking into consideration 3rd edition rule changes... and then lets not consider styling/design at all.
but, apart from those minor niggles, I suppose you could consider it not being a runaway success just being because its "pre-painted".
I'm sorry you took what was a comment aimed at Pacific as an informative post as a slight or attack against your product or your company; I believe your work is superior. I just know when the aforementioned kickstarter was previewed on another forum there was some interest and people excited for it and then when it was revealed to be pre-painted those same people (as well as myself) lost interest. After that I paid little attention to it. Your resin bits, experience and business partnerships give you a huge edge, your public responses though... this is not the first time you've acted belittling towards someone who you perceived as attacking you on a forum and makes me question wanting to purchase anything from you or supporting your kickstarter which I have been looking forward to since the beginning of this thread.
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Post by: Antenociti
Eggs wrote:Just to confirm, is your kickstarted going to be for the building terrain, vehicles, or both? Do you have a rough idea how much it is going to cost to deck out a full table? I'm going to have to start saving....
Not yet, we're still in the process of finalizing building designs and their resin components, so we're not yet at a pricing stage with a lot of stuff, as soon as we know we'll let every know though.
Vehicles, scenery, terrain and gaming mats will all be in the kickstarter.... again though, as we've not yet finalized individual products we cant give a price on a full table layout: but there will be a few options at different price-points.
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Post by: Pacific
kilcin wrote:Antenociti wrote: And not possibly due to it isnt officially "designed for Infinity", plus the KS owner doesnt actually have a laser cutter does he? (quick look it sounded like he needed the funds to buy one from the kickstarter money)... plus they have no accompanying resin, internal or external... nor 9 years of experienced production, or a company with 18+ laser cutters in their setup, or development taking into consideration 3rd edition rule changes... and then lets not consider styling/design at all.
but, apart from those minor niggles, I suppose you could consider it not being a runaway success just being because its "pre-painted".
I'm sorry you took what was a comment aimed at Pacific as an informative post as a slight or attack against your product or your company; I believe your work is superior. I just know when the aforementioned kickstarter was previewed on another forum there was some interest and people excited for it and then when it was revealed to be pre-painted those same people (as well as myself) lost interest. After that I paid little attention to it. Your resin bits, experience and business partnerships give you a huge edge, your public responses though... this is not the first time you've acted belittling towards someone who you perceived as attacking you on a forum and makes me question wanting to purchase anything from you or supporting your kickstarter which I have been looking forward to since the beginning of this thread.
At the same time, it's a forum and hey very, very easy to misunderstand or misconstrue the intent of a message. Let it go man, I'm pretty sure no offence was intended.
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Post by: Alpharius
Gaming mats too?
I'm going to have to start saving for this one...yesterday!
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Post by: GrimDork
Gah, I'm not sure I can handle another ridiculous and amazing kickstarter... Anything AW puts out is liable to be as such, I'd like to cherry pick a nice item or two, but I can't afford to splurge like I'd like to for such nice stuff.
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Post by: Kroothawk
Well, that's a kickstarter I will back for sure!
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Post by: PsychoticStorm
That's fantastic, I think I will have to save a lot!
Keep us informed please.
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Post by: Ian Sturrock
Would love to know more about the gaming mats before I decide whether to buy a Deep Cut mat this month...
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Post by: adhuin
Antenociti wrote:There will always be an 'unpainted, no-resin, low-cost option' whenever we do a 'pre-painted + resin' version.
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kilcin wrote:
Go West Terrain Studios is currently running a kickstarter for pre-painted MDF terrain for Infinity and it doesn't seem to be doing well so far. I believe being pre-painted is actually a major drawback for them, or at least the limits on color choice.
And not possibly due to it isnt officially "designed for Infinity", plus the KS owner doesnt actually have a laser cutter does he? (quick look it sounded like he needed the funds to buy one from the kickstarter money)... plus they have no accompanying resin, internal or external... nor 9 years of experienced production, or a company with 18+ laser cutters in their setup, or development taking into consideration 3rd edition rule changes... and then lets not consider styling/design at all.
but, apart from those minor niggles, I suppose you could consider it not being a runaway success just being because its "pre-painted".
He mentioned in video having a "hobby-level" machine, but needing funds to get better/faster one.
It is one of the most incompetently looking kickstarter project, that I wished success.
Name: Cat-6 Multi-Plex (Are they selling internet-cables or what!)
Visual shorthand: Abstract white logo with blue background (First thing people see on kickstarter list!)
The video was bit lacking, but it wasn't anywhere near as bad as the first two points.
The products themselves look great.
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Post by: Barzam
Antenociti wrote: Eggs wrote:Just to confirm, is your kickstarted going to be for the building terrain, vehicles, or both? Do you have a rough idea how much it is going to cost to deck out a full table? I'm going to have to start saving....
Not yet, we're still in the process of finalizing building designs and their resin components, so we're not yet at a pricing stage with a lot of stuff, as soon as we know we'll let every know though.
Vehicles, scenery, terrain and gaming mats will all be in the kickstarter.... again though, as we've not yet finalized individual products we cant give a price on a full table layout: but there will be a few options at different price-points.
Take your time on that Kickstarter. I need to let my bank account rest for a bit.
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Post by: -Loki-
I'll quite happily buy any Haqqislam, Tohaa and civilian vehicles you make for Infinity. One of the things I need most is flavour terrain now.
Also, I just really want official Infinity dropships.
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Post by: Eggs
Barzam wrote: Antenociti wrote: Eggs wrote:Just to confirm, is your kickstarted going to be for the building terrain, vehicles, or both? Do you have a rough idea how much it is going to cost to deck out a full table? I'm going to have to start saving....
Not yet, we're still in the process of finalizing building designs and their resin components, so we're not yet at a pricing stage with a lot of stuff, as soon as we know we'll let every know though.
Vehicles, scenery, terrain and gaming mats will all be in the kickstarter.... again though, as we've not yet finalized individual products we cant give a price on a full table layout: but there will be a few options at different price-points.
Take your time on that Kickstarter. I need to let my bank account rest for a bit.
No don't! My games and gears board arrives next month, and I need stuff to put on it!
Any idea of when it might be? Summer? Winter? This year? Next year?
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Post by: Alpharius
Ian Sturrock wrote:Would love to know more about the gaming mats before I decide whether to buy a Deep Cut mat this month...
It will most likely be like these:
http://www.antenocitisworkshop.com/wargames-scenery-terrain/mat-o-war-wargaming-mats.html
Just guessing though!
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Post by: PsychoticStorm
I am hoping something more along the lines of suzy, vinyl mats are fantastic and one preshaped for sci fi urban environments is really absent.
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Post by: Kroothawk
Somehow I can't see mono-coloured cloth mats suitable for Urban Infinity games. No need to wait for a Infinity licence to release a grey piece of cloth
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Post by: Ian Sturrock
Yeah, my hope is for mats with a few diagonal roads, and spaces for buildings or plazas between, if that can be depicted nicely. One in 4x4 and one in 6x4 would be ideal. I'd probably go for 6x4 so it was useable for 40K too.
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Post by: Alpharius
Kroothawk wrote:
Somehow I can't see mono-coloured cloth mats suitable for Urban Infinity games. No need to wait for a Infinity licence to release a grey piece of cloth
There's more to INFINITY than battlefield of Urban Grey.
Paradiso offers many alternatives for battle, just as one example.
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