It's time for another installment of 40K Confessions! Dust off those skeletons in the closet, make your personal shame public, and let the truth set you free.

*Is there something you've never done that you believe most 40K gamers take for granted?
*Are you TFG on open gaming or club night?
*Do you have any bizarre obssessions about list-building or army comp?
*Are there any rules you consistently forget or just plain don't know?

I'll go first...

I've played IG for almost 15 years, and I've never played a list that included a Basilisk.

I don't actually have enough painted boyz for the larger games that I play. I rely on the fact that they start in reserves or in trukks and that my opponent will kill enough before I have to deploy them that I can just reuse the models that I have. I have only actually run into the problem of running out of models once (it was against blob IG that could not kill me fast enough). I am working on painting the rest though.

I occasionally think I have upgrades on my tanks that I forgot to pay for. I've only done it twice, but both times I thought my Russes had camo netting when they actually didn't. It didn't really affect anything, but I still did it on accident.

I've had to borrow most of the models I use nowadays due to my previous ones being destroyed in an incident. It makes it hard to get a game sometimes, but luckily my group is awesome.

I tend to never quite finish painting an army. The closest I've gotten to finishing one was a large Menoth army where I left one model unpainted, not intentionally, I just never got around to it. I think the army as a whole had something like 50-60 models too.

I haven't played against an Eldar opponent in 8 years. I've never known the pain of Wraithknights, Scatbikes, rending shuricats, or Serpent shields.

I recently got to play formations at my FLGS... I ran the Librarian conclave and murdered a newby blood angels player...

I continually forget about defensive grenades, much to my FWs doom. It's to the point where people who play me a lot often remind me to stop the 3 rounds in "oh... gak" I always have.

Also, ever army list I build will end up with a backstory eventually. Sometimes before they are even finished.

I always forget that the wounds inflicted by the mob rule table are randomly allocated, I just take off the boyz from wherever since they can't be put on characters anyways. Especially when your mob has no weapon upgrades and it has 20+ boyz I'm not rolling every time I fail a morale test.

I forget at least one special rule in my army for every game. Unfortunately, it's never the same one.

I have posted an illegal list in the Army Lists section.

I once forgot the base transport capacity of a Land Raider Proteus.

Until recently, I discovered that I had been playing one of my regular opponents while I was down over 150 points.

I am a scrub lord who play weak codex as an excuse when I lose....

^ I play Chaos, so its actually true! HAR HAR

I specifically bought my Typhon & Kharybdis + Fire Raptor Gunship to piss my best friends off. Because I dislike Fish-Head / Space Elven goodie too-shoes who bring WKs and R-Tides and all their variants to the Table. I also actively run Be'Lakor and my Kytan because people think Invisibility is more broken than army wide Psudo-Rending.

So screw them, they get the, FIST OF KHORNE SHOVED DOWN THEIR THROAT, AND THEY HAD BETTER SLAANESH IT!

 GoliothOnline wrote:
^ I play Chaos, so its actually true! HAR HAR

I specifically bought my Typhon & Kharybdis + Fire Raptor Gunship to piss my best friends off. Because I dislike Fish-Head / Space Elven goodie too-shoes who bring WKs and R-Tides and all their variants to the Table. I also actively run Be'Lakor and my Kytan because people think Invisibility is more broken than army wide Psudo-Rending.

So screw them, they get the, FIST OF KHORNE SHOVED DOWN THEIR THROAT, AND THEY HAD BETTER SLAANESH IT!

Invisible Kytan? that is evil

 GoliothOnline wrote:
^ I play Chaos, so its actually true! HAR HAR

I specifically bought my Typhon & Kharybdis + Fire Raptor Gunship to piss my best friends off. Because I dislike Fish-Head / Space Elven goodie too-shoes who bring WKs and R-Tides and all their variants to the Table. I also actively run Be'Lakor and my Kytan because people think Invisibility is more broken than army wide Psudo-Rending.

So screw them, they get the, FIST OF KHORNE SHOVED DOWN THEIR THROAT, AND THEY HAD BETTER SLAANESH IT!

I'm afraid that, by all objective standards, Invisibility really is more broken than Bladestorm or Gauss. Typhons, Kharibdys, and Fire Raptors, on the other hand are perfectly balanced, and a lot more so than the Riptide and especially the Wraithknight. Bel'akor is only overpowered because Invisibility is overpowered.

Like someone above mentioned, I tend to forget at least one special rule in my army almost every game (recently I forgot my Ravenwing's Hit & Run-terrible, right? )

In my most recent game, I think I completely forgot to deploy my Assault Squad. I was going to deep strike them, and I ended up forgetting to roll for them.

I don't think its necessarily my fault, but I always feel bad about it. I used to play against my girlfriend at the time, and she used a bunch of Plague Marines. I would always forget they have defensive grenades, as well as were able to throw them as blind grenades. Since I play Necrons, it would be a big deal against me. I always remember days later like "Oh crap, she had defensive grenades". I know I had told her this a few times, but if she forgets, and it's not my army and I forget, then it's not my fault, right? I still always felt bad.

I always forget what my warlord trait is, especially if it's something that could of come in handy during my game. I realy should start writing it down...

I feel very uncomfortable writing a list for which the models could not be laid out symmetrically.

They don't have to be deployed like that, but the possibility should be there.

I haven't played a non maelstrom game outside of some events since 7 came out. I love it! I have 2 packs of the regular cards for it, and a deck of the DA one, so I have one for my opponent if need be. We just discard and redraw once you couldn't accomplish(kill a flier when we have none or cast a power as necrons ect).

I have (politely of course) declined pick up games because my opponent didn't want to play maelstrom.

I've only let my wife beat me once in a game of 40k....
She is currently undefeated vs me.

I absolutely hate Tau, more than Eldar. There's specific Tau players at my LGS I refuse to play.

Also, it's most likely my store, but I've never lost to an IG player. Whenever I've played them, it's been a curb stomp, to the point I feel bad.

I played about 20 games thinking that pathfinders had infiltrate.

Felt like a bit of a prick when I figured out it was just scout.

I'm obsessed with Tactical Squads. 5 Man Plas squads EVERYWHERE.


Oh, and I've never ever faced Tau, Eldar or Necrons.

I secretly enjoy that most new people I play never played against Sisters before. And usually don't know what they should be scared of.

I claim to be a Chaos player but most of my games in 7th have been using my eldar.

Outside of my very first army, I haven't painted anything. I pay a friend who paints all of my models for me, and to an excellent standard (our local stores use him to paint display models).

With eldar I am nearly undefeated, pretty much for every edition since 3rd. The same is not true with most of my other armies (CSM I was doing amazing with until 6th dropped, necrons I am really bad with. Same with nids).

 Grimskul wrote:
I always forget that the wounds inflicted by the mob rule table are randomly allocated, I just take off the boyz from wherever since they can't be put on characters anyways. Especially when your mob has no weapon upgrades and it has 20+ boyz I'm not rolling every time I fail a morale test.

Pretty sure that is how pretty much everyone does it if all the non-characters are the same. It is so much simpler.

I have never played list that I didn't make at least 10 variations of before deciding on that one.

I won't assemble my own land speeders, I pay other people

I consistently forget that my daemons have Fear. I also forget whenever I upgrade a Bloodletter to a Bloodreaper. Both of those things could have made a difference on multiple occasions.

I mostly know what I know of armies I don't own by playing them regularly. I skim codices online, but it never really sticks.

My first game with Nids I thought regular devourers were S5 and didn't realize until yesterday that I had them confused with Deathspitters. This was last week.

I like to find loopholes in rules/wargear
Not to make the unit super OP but to make the unit NOT rubbish

I often forget wargear I've bought on my guys, and certain rules that could help. I almost always totally forget warlord trait. I play so many armies its hard to keep track of it all, and the main partner I had in Italy for over a year was like a walking BRB/codex for everyone so I didn't memorize as much as I should have.

jreilly89 wrote:I absolutely hate Tau, more than Eldar. There's specific Tau players at my LGS I refuse to play.

Also, it's most likely my store, but I've never lost to an IG player. Whenever I've played them, it's been a curb stomp, to the point I feel bad.

Triple Riptide Spam got you down?

DevonMrtnz wrote:I secretly enjoy that most new people I play never played against Sisters before. And usually don't know what they should be scared of.

So much this. In my experience, everyone underestimates Sisters of Battle. They may only have a couple solid lists. but those lists are really good in the right hands.

 TheAvengingKnee wrote:
I won't assemble my own land speeders, I pay other people

I understand perfectly. Land Speeders are the worst models in the game, assembly wise (other than some Finecrap stuff, perhaps). The newer ones perhaps less so, but still...

I spend more time building army lists than actually playing...

 ZergSmasher wrote:

 TheAvengingKnee wrote:
I won't assemble my own land speeders, I pay other people

I understand perfectly. Land Speeders are the worst models in the game, assembly wise (other than some Finecrap stuff, perhaps). The newer ones perhaps less so, but still...

Not as bad as a land raider that came out of the mold too early... It warped a bit and I refuse to glue the model together and it sits, on my desk, held together by rubber bands

For my first couple of years in 40k, I played the grey horde. I now don't, but I still hate painting.


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 Freytag93 wrote:
I spend more time building army lists than actually playing...

Ditto :/

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 ZergSmasher wrote:

 TheAvengingKnee wrote:
I won't assemble my own land speeders, I pay other people

I understand perfectly. Land Speeders are the worst models in the game, assembly wise (other than some Finecrap stuff, perhaps). The newer ones perhaps less so, but still...

Not as bad as a land raider that came out of the mold too early... It warped a bit and I refuse to glue the model together and it sits, on my desk, held together by rubber bands

Should have just contacted GW they would have probably sent you a new one.

I am going to a large tournament in about a month, I was going to try a much more meta list for my army, with the new Tau codex I don't think I will even bother and will just bring a more fun to play list as I have realized my army has 0 chance of beating a new Tau tournament list.

 TheAvengingKnee wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 ZergSmasher wrote:

 TheAvengingKnee wrote:
I won't assemble my own land speeders, I pay other people

I understand perfectly. Land Speeders are the worst models in the game, assembly wise (other than some Finecrap stuff, perhaps). The newer ones perhaps less so, but still...

Not as bad as a land raider that came out of the mold too early... It warped a bit and I refuse to glue the model together and it sits, on my desk, held together by rubber bands

Should have just contacted GW they would have probably sent you a new one.

Tru dat. One thing I can't fault them for is instant replacement for faulty items. Once got a warped LRBT wall. Got a replacement shortly thereafter, and I was able to fix the tank. You are sometimes required to take a photo, however.

 Selym wrote:

 TheAvengingKnee wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 ZergSmasher wrote:

 TheAvengingKnee wrote:
I won't assemble my own land speeders, I pay other people

I understand perfectly. Land Speeders are the worst models in the game, assembly wise (other than some Finecrap stuff, perhaps). The newer ones perhaps less so, but still...

Not as bad as a land raider that came out of the mold too early... It warped a bit and I refuse to glue the model together and it sits, on my desk, held together by rubber bands

Should have just contacted GW they would have probably sent you a new one.

Tru dat. One thing I can't fault them for is instant replacement for faulty items. Once got a warped LRBT wall. Got a replacement shortly thereafter, and I was able to fix the tank. You are sometimes required to take a photo, however.

It really isn't a huge warp. Its barely noticeable if I don't point it out, but I need some way to bend it back

 Selym wrote:

 TheAvengingKnee wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 ZergSmasher wrote:

 TheAvengingKnee wrote:
I won't assemble my own land speeders, I pay other people

I understand perfectly. Land Speeders are the worst models in the game, assembly wise (other than some Finecrap stuff, perhaps). The newer ones perhaps less so, but still...

Not as bad as a land raider that came out of the mold too early... It warped a bit and I refuse to glue the model together and it sits, on my desk, held together by rubber bands

Should have just contacted GW they would have probably sent you a new one.

Tru dat. One thing I can't fault them for is instant replacement for faulty items. Once got a warped LRBT wall. Got a replacement shortly thereafter, and I was able to fix the tank. You are sometimes required to take a photo, however.

Even if you have to take a photo who cares, if there is a legitimate fault in the product they are really good about replacing it. I was missing a piece of a model when it came in, they sent me a whole new model.

I have yet to build a vehicle of my own, I've always had a friend of mine do it. And I play mech guard as one of my armies.

 War Kitten wrote:
I have yet to build a vehicle of my own, I've always had a friend of mine do it. And I play mech guard as one of my armies.

I love making the vehicles - so damn easy. Also the only thing I don't hate painting. Still boring though.

I use Flash Gitz in basically every Ork list I run. People can say Flash Gitz are terrible but I will continue to run them because they are just too much fun.

I am really terrible about remembering the proper order of when to roll for table edges, warlord traits, psychic powers, etc in the pre game. I am also horrible about remembering what my warlord trait is half the time.

I tend to find myself taking forever to finish a turn because I like to think and chat with the opponent. I really don't realize how slow I play until I look and see our 2k point game took 3-4 hours to play.

 the_Armyman wrote:
It's time for another installment of 40K Confessions! Dust off those skeletons in the closet, make your personal shame public, and let the truth set you free.

*Is there something you've never done that you believe most 40K gamers take for granted?
*Are you TFG on open gaming or club night?
*Do you have any bizarre obssessions about list-building or army comp?
*Are there any rules you consistently forget or just plain don't know?

I'll go first...

I've played IG for almost 15 years, and I've never played a list that included a Basilisk.

I play Eldar, have 30 of nearly every model and yet... have never owned my own Wraith Knight.

I play Eldar. With a few exceptions, I don't run ScatBikes, I don't run D-weapons and I've never used a Wraithknight.

I never play the same list twice, and this is across 5 different armies. I get bored easily, and I like playing wacky combos or niche units. My poor win-loss ratio is a direct result

When I said I wanted to start Tau the FLGS owner looked at me funny.

I guess their one Tau player has left quite an impression on them.

Edit
I use tons of proxies. Bad one too until I can get my army painted. Like a penny if need be, but its between friends so eh. if they want to proxy something I'm game.

I'm going to look into starting Eldar and Dark Eldar. That's my second confession.

 War Kitten wrote:
I'm going to look into starting Eldar and Dark Eldar. That's my second confession.

My second army on the side is DE. I just like the way they look, and their honest about what they do at least.

I can't remember the last time I played a competitive game. I don't think I would even know how to start.

I don't like the setting all that much, and I prefer the "sillier" parts.

I bought the Eldar codex so that I could use Fire Dragons and Scatbikes on an IK army I knew my other forces couldn't handle.

I really want to start a SoB army, but I don't think I can handle any more disappointment. (I currently play exclusively Non-FW CSM.)

When i built my Scourges, i made the Solarite look epicly cool with a Power Sword and Blast Pistol. Unfortunately, as i later found out, the Solarite cannot actually buy a Blast Pistol.

But I've always paid for it, and nobody has questioned me on it, so i still use him today

1. I play daemons, and have only ever used the Grimoire once. Didn't use it to get a 2++ re-rollable (I play mono-Slaanesh), however I did combine it with Cursed Earth in order to get a 2++. It felt so dirty...

2. I use Seeker Chariots often, even going to far as to put a Herald on one. Everyone tells me they're terrible but I just can't help it. Plus it feels so good to wipe an enemy with them.

3. I constant forget about the re-roll To Hit rolls part of the Locus of Beguilement.

4. I've always wanted a Necron army. I even have some Necron minis and all three of their 'dexes, it's just that they keep becoming OP, and I'm not that kind of person...

5. I haven't played CSMs in about 2.5 years because of their codex, yet I still consider myself a CSM player on the inside...

I keep remembering the 5th ed Vehicle damage Table when in game.

My gaming group uses a decent amount of terrain when we play, and I love the tactical feeling it brings having units advance via cover to cover... Except when our tau player is playing. We have all agreed, that if we don't get cover saves, neither does he. Know what? It definitely shows the weaknesses of tau when you're able to wipe out a good chunk of their army because they have no cover saves fishes aren't that tough now

 Matt.Kingsley wrote:

5. I haven't played CSMs in about 2.5 years because of their codex, yet I still consider myself a CSM player on the inside...

I'm guilty of this, too.

I'm a horrible 40k fan...

Despite having the models since the day they came out, I have never put my grav Centurions on the tabletop.

And now that I think about it... To this day, I have never use a grav weapon at all, not even on the Tac. marines.

 oni wrote:
Despite having the models since the day they came out, I have never put my grav Centurions on the tabletop.

And now that I think about it... To this day, I have never use a grav weapon at all, not even on the Tac. marines.

Me too!

But my main confession is I have never finished a solo game. Which is pretty silly, but I normally run out of time, whereas for Apocalypse we schedule so much time we always finish early. I think I need to sort this one out.

Ah well

 oni wrote:
Despite having the models since the day they came out, I have never put my grav Centurions on the tabletop.

And now that I think about it... To this day, I have never use a grav weapon at all, not even on the Tac. marines.

I keep some spare Drop Pod grav in case of TFG's

I play by myself, against myself. Also, since I can't afford all the models I'd need to play with more varied armies, I proxy almost everything.

I play IG, never used a Leman Russ

 Bobthehero wrote:
I play IG, never used a Leman Russ

Your Win/Loss ratio is better because of it

It is, consider I can buy 2 Earth shakers for the price of a LR

 Mr_Piddlez wrote:
I really want to start a SoB army, but I don't think I can handle any more disappointment. (I currently play exclusively Non-FW CSM.)

I won a tournament on Saturday with them. they also have won more tournaments for me than any other codex, and more Best Generals. Hopefully your confession may become a gnesis story!

I have severe Hobby ADD, I struggle to stick to an army. Right now my plan is to do Eldar, then maybe SOB, if I can stick to a plan.

I bought a Baneblade with every intent of using it in a game, but I never have.

I hate painting. It's not that I don't have time to paint, because I absolutely do, I just really, really don't enjoy painting, so I play with a mix of painted and unpainted stuff. (I love converting and kitbashing though!)

I seem to be unable to keep to a consistent color scheme for my armies. I have a lot of Battle Sisters in pink armor and white robes, but then I decided I wanted my Celestians to have white armor and pink robes to set them apart more noticeably, and I found they looked way, way better that way. But they don't make the colors I made my pink from anymore, so I can't paint anything in pink anymore, so if I get back into painting, I'll probably have to paint them with red or purple or blue robes. And then at one point I figured I might paint their robes differently based on what squad they were in, neglecting the fact that I don't organize my collection into squads, I just find a model with the correct equipment and stick it in the appropriate squad.

I have never, EVER won a game against someone that was not an immediate family member of mine. Including the time I refused to take stuff out of my army to make it fair when facing a kid who was only able to field about 900 points of stuff in a local 1500 point tournament. I lost that game, and it was not particularly close.

In the past 6-8 years or so, I've rarely fielded the same list twice. I create dozens and dozens of lists on Battlescribe, most of which never see a game, and I often write them just because I wanted to include a particular model or unit in my army next time. Also, my inner powergamer hasn't learned to shut up yet, so I flip-flop from taking the more powerful units to taking units I like for one reason or another. It's also hard to not list tailor a little when I know that my only opponent for the past decade is going to be fielding foot Orks, like she always does. In that situation, is there even a point to trying to develop a take-all-comers list, since I never play against anyone else?

I make really, really bad decisions. Like moving up the bulk of my Battle Sisters toward a hill in the middle of the table while a mob of 20 Slugga Boyz approaches from the other side, totally out of line of sight. Or (not tabletop related) choosing the bow over an SMG in a third-person shooter game when I have always been terrible with single-fire, semi-auto, sniper, and basically any weapon where I can't hold down the mouse button to unleash a steady stream of bullets, because I thought it would be nifty to use a bow in a sci-fi game.

I play female characters and armies almost exclusively in every game I've played for over a decade. I just look at male characters and have no desire to play or field them. Not tabletop related again, but when it comes to deciding to buy a new video game to play, one of my make-or-break points is, "Can I play a female character?" with imaginary bonus points if there's no stats difference between choosing a male character and choosing a female character. It's annoying that Planetside 2 made it so difficult to find out that female characters were playable, I must've spent at least an hour trying to figure it out.

I haven't been able to sit down and just read a book since I read Faith and Fire (the 40k one, not the real-life religious book of the same name by a different author). Dunno why. Maybe... Gonna put spoilers tags here despite the book's age.

Now, the most reading I do is a Darwin Awards or Dilbert book while on the toilet.

Son, you haven't read enough Dan Abnett if you get soured by deaths of characters. I nearly threw a chair when Honen Mu died at the end on HH: Legion

 Tactical_Spam wrote:
Son, you haven't read enough Dan Abnett if you get soured by deaths of characters. I nearly threw a chair when Honen Mu died at the end on HH: Legion

It's not just that characters died. I used to read tons of military sci-fi like John Ringo's Posleen series (I stopped with that series after the prologue of Cally's War, because the opening gruesome torture scene was not to my liking), David Drake's Hammer's Slammer's series, and a variety of others, and I had tons of fun reading it and the characters dying rarely bothered me. It's just, in this one case, the deaths were so utterly pointless and contrived. They also lost maybe 2-3 squad members throughout the first 95% of the book, then in the last part they kill off another 10-15 in rapid succession.

Anyways, it's just my guess as to why I never read any novels again. It also roughly coincided with me getting more into online computer games, which have the instant gratification thing going for them.

I have never used guardian defenders, nor do I ever expect to no matter how much gw wants to shove em down my throat. nor have i ever missed them.

I absolutely loathe loyalist marines of all colors except wolves and grey knights, and have never owned a marine model.

when i first started, 3rd or 4th game my gaming group made me play a game using marines just so i could try em out (everyone played marines and they felt everyone should). Only time i have ever used a marine army.

I like painting, i am just not good at it and lack the focus to get it done so my army never gets fully painted.

I miss VDR

I'm planning on making a Guardian-heavy force for my Eldar, despite the fact that many people have told me that Guardians aren't that good.

I stand by my 1KSons not only because I like the fluff ans style of them. I'm also hoping that someday they might have a few months of unbeatable cheese thanks to a new codex (that later will be obsolete when the following edition/faq lands). But for just a few months... please GW. Just a little bit.

I jink with my Ork Warbikers all the time and still fire them as BS2 because I'm an Ork masquerading as a Dire Avenger.

*Is there something you've never done that you believe most 40K gamers take for granted?
- Played an actual 40K game. I've played a kind of demo/learning game with the manager of the GW shop I buy/paint/play at, but I'm too tentative (ok, almost scared) to because of #4

*Are you TFG on open gaming or club night?
- I'm not competitive. Yeah, it's nice to win from time to time, but I'm really not a competitive gamer. I use gaming (TCGs, Tabletop, PnP RPGs, Video Games, Board Games, etc.) as a way to relax. So, I'd honestly doubt I'd ever be TFG on any kind of night.

*Do you have any bizarre obssessions about list-building or army comp?
- About 40K, not so much. I haven't seen anything while hanging around my local store that players couldn't or the person running the game couldn't come up with an compromise or fix for. AoS, I kinda want some kind of ability to build a list so that it's comparable to my opponent. There are several systems being used right now, and none of them have been widely adopted. That said, I'm also glad that AoS doesn't have a list system. It means you can each bring just a couple of models to the table and not worry about losing abilities because of being unbound.

*Are there any rules you consistently forget or just plain don't know?
- The vast majority of 40K. Of all the games I've played over the years (including several years in MTG), I've never seen a ruleset so complicated as 40K. It's honestly overwhelming for someone who hasn't grown up on it per se. I know there are several people that wouldn't mind helping me learn. Unfortunately, even when plans are made, those several people don't tend to show up at my local GW shop (where I buy/play). Even though I can use Programs/Apps like BattleScribe, I'd still have to look up rules probably rather frequently. And, the rules for just my army (be it DA or Nids) plus the rules in the BRB that are referenced by each codex would take up a good amount of room in a folder or notebook just by themselves. There's always going to be a couple of TFGs at every gaming shop, but most of the guys that play at my local GW are really cool. They'd be happy to teach me. But, the times they are there, I usually am just dropping by to get something as I'm right in the middle of painting or assembling. And, when I'm actually ready to play, no one is there.

SG

I have played Unbound. 5 Warbosses and a Painboy, on bikes. Opponent knew what I was bringing and agreed to it just to see what would happen vs his CSM TAC list. It wasn't so much a game, as an exercise in him removing models. He conceded at the bottom of turn 2. I felt bad, but we both laughed and agreed never to do that again.

I have never played a game over 1500 points, and most of my games take 4-5 hours. I chalk this up to a combination of looking up rules, having a lot of models to move (Orks), and assaulting early and often (Orks).

I make thousands of lists a year that never get played.

I grew up playing with my brother and we precisely measured everything. Every movement of every miniature, every shot, everything.

It kills me a little inside when opponents in my GW just measure the first few models and guesstimate the guys behind.

My new bane is in AoS when they don't measure most pile-in moves.

Anyone feel my pain?

My favourite game size is around 600 points. I do play bigger games though.

Sometimes me one of my friends will play a game where we just pick units, work out a counter pick for the otherside and then stop when we think we will have a roughly even game. Shockingly we've found this method better than using points.

Frozocrone wrote:I jink with my Ork Warbikers all the time and still fire them as BS2 because I'm an Ork masquerading as a Dire Avenger.

I see this a lot. Jink should prevent ALL shooting, but that's for a different thread

ServiceGames wrote:*Is there something you've never done that you believe most 40K gamers take for granted?
- Played an actual 40K game. I've played a kind of demo/learning game with the manager of the GW shop I buy/paint/play at, but I'm too tentative (ok, almost scared) to because of #4

Are you terribly shy? If there are some good guys at your local GW, as you say, any one of them would be happy to play a game and teach you as you go. The rules can be intimidating, but there's no substitute for just getting stuck in! If you're having trouble getting a pickup game, see if one of the guys could schedule a night and time to get things rolling.

I love to use Bel'akor in my chaos armies whenever possible, but rarely if ever use Invisibility. Personal favorites are shrouding and Psychic Shriek.

I tend to spam crusader squads in crusader land raiders at all problems, even vehicles. That power fist sword brethen plus thunder hammer captain are the only damages, but dang it does the idea of frothing mad space marines attacking a tank with swords amuse me

 the_Armyman wrote:

Frozocrone wrote:I jink with my Ork Warbikers all the time and still fire them as BS2 because I'm an Ork masquerading as a Dire Avenger.

I see this a lot. Jink should prevent ALL shooting, but that's for a different thread

To be honest I think I would still be shooting xD

I got into 40K about 1989, and have steadily collected since then - over six seperate 2000+ pt armies, each boxed set and rulebook edition and at least two companies of space marines. Yet until I joined an escalation league three months ago, I'd played enough 40K to count on a single hand.

When the Horus Heresy Space Marine game came out (in 89'), I measured and scaled up one of the land raiders and constructed a model out of a (used) pizza box and bits from a GI Joe Vamp. I still have it, sitting next to the one I bought from GW about a month later.

I play IG and win/come close to winning against Marines

I rarely play Ravenwing, even though I'm a hardcore DA fan. As of 7th edition codex, I bought a Dark Shroud and 2 squads of 6 bikers because they're too good not to use....

 Stormonu wrote:
I got into 40K about 1989, and have steadily collected since then - over six seperate 2000+ pt armies, each boxed set and rulebook edition and at least two companies of space marines. Yet until I joined an escalation league three months ago, I'd played enough 40K to count on a single hand.

When the Horus Heresy Space Marine game came out (in 89'), I measured and scaled up one of the land raiders and constructed a model out of a (used) pizza box and bits from a GI Joe Vamp. I still have it, sitting next to the one I bought from GW about a month later.

I built a hybrid of the new and old rhino out of a pizza box!

I love dreadnoughts. Way too much. I have 3 Death Company Dreads, 4 regular Dreads, and 10 Furioso Dreads. That new forgeworld dread makes me happy (the pricetag doesn't though).
I also love playing with giant tanks. My Fellblade and Spartan are some of my favorite models.
Link, because my models made it to the interwebs somehow.

 Bottle wrote:
I grew up playing with my brother and we precisely measured everything. Every movement of every miniature, every shot, everything.

It kills me a little inside when opponents in my GW just measure the first few models and guesstimate the guys behind.

My new bane is in AoS when they don't measure most pile-in moves.

Anyone feel my pain?

Oh man, you'd hate one of my opponents. He moves his 50 man blob by taking the back rank and putting them 6" in front of the front rank. Pretty sure that's a common blob squad tactic to not spend 20 min in one movement phase.

On topic: After I finished painting my Flyrant I flew him around my living room like an action figure. Sound effects and all

 Mulletdude wrote:
I love dreadnoughts. Way too much. I have 3 Death Company Dreads, 4 regular Dreads, and 10 Furioso Dreads. That new forgeworld dread makes me happy (the pricetag doesn't though).
I also love playing with giant tanks. My Fellblade and Spartan are some of my favorite models.
Link, because my models made it to the interwebs somehow.

I want that many

Screw the dreads, I want that Fellblade.

 Mulletdude wrote:
I love dreadnoughts. Way too much. I have 3 Death Company Dreads, 4 regular Dreads, and 10 Furioso Dreads. That new forgeworld dread makes me happy (the pricetag doesn't though).
I also love playing with giant tanks. My Fellblade and Spartan are some of my favorite models.
Link, because my models made it to the interwebs somehow.

Nicely painted armor, Mulletdude. A Spartan, Fellblade, and 2 Sicarans is serious business!

 the_Armyman wrote:

 Mulletdude wrote:
I love dreadnoughts. Way too much. I have 3 Death Company Dreads, 4 regular Dreads, and 10 Furioso Dreads. That new forgeworld dread makes me happy (the pricetag doesn't though).
I also love playing with giant tanks. My Fellblade and Spartan are some of my favorite models.
Link, because my models made it to the interwebs somehow.

Nicely painted armor, Mulletdude. A Spartan, Fellblade, and 2 Sicarans is serious business!

Thanks! They also had some dreadnought friends backing them up. They're on the other side of the table and not in that shot though
Like this guy!

EDIT: I'm bad at hyperlinks, apparently =\

I absolutely love my finished models, love coming up with unique armies, army lists, I fluff literally every part of my battleforce and have extensive backstories for my leaders -

But I have an incredibly hard time motivating myself to build and paint my models for fear of messing them up. I currently have four imperial knights (two FW) in various stages of completion, a reasonably sized Dark Eldar army with zero finished models (the last time I ran raiders one had to be blue-tacked together to be fieldable), an entire shipping box of metal Sisters of Battle, two custom exorcists, and a DE Tantalus. In my entire history of playing the game, I have finished exactly two models, a Land Speeder Storm and a old metal SM scout sniper. I don't play or have any interest in playing SM. I cannot seem to retain focus and motivation for long enough to finish models and it drives me nuts, because it doesn't stop me from buying more (I currently have 3 more knights on order).

The first unit I got for my tau was a unit of pathfinders, and ive kept refusing to get them a devilfish, mostly cause of some new army project, and sometimes because I just cant be bothered. I also bought some dark eldar in the hopes of starting a wych cult, but that was the only unit I ever bought. To this day they sit neglected on my shelf

I sometimes find it hard to finish a game with an obvious outcome.

I also have a tendency to not be so personable at times with people I don't know. Not deliberately, but I jut really don't know how to humans.

Also forget so many special rules. So, so many. All the time, in my favor or not, I will likely forget.

What I'm most ashamed of, though, is that I have never bought a Codex. I either borrow or 'totally legally' acquire a PDF.

I mixed up The Horror (tyranid psychic power) at a tournament, and thought it made the target fall back rather than go to ground.

I ran a bunch of units off the table over about 3 games before someone called me on it. I don't think it would have changed the outcomes of any of those games much, but still felt pretty bad about it.

I'm with some of the guys with never having bought a codex, the thing is I want to read all the fluff and it would be so expensive I'd never be able to buy models I understand it's a bad thing to have 'legal' pdfs but I'd rather have money for models and paint than a book that will change in 2 years

I refuse to take any 'nid units that I consider to be 'unfluffy' and focus largely on melee units. Then I find myself getting in a bad mood when running towards my opponents grav-cannons and assault cannons and taking the heaviest of losses. I have no-one to blame but myself.

I promised myself I would stick to my tyranid army and not be one of those guys with nine different armies on the go. I have a kid and a mortgage, one army is enough hobby for me. But I find myself lusting over a crimson fist siege vanguard list.

 munkyphunk wrote:
I refuse to take any 'nid units that I consider to be 'unfluffy' and focus largely on melee units. Then I find myself getting in a bad mood when running towards my opponents grav-cannons and assault cannons and taking the heaviest of losses. I have no-one to blame but myself.

I promised myself I would stick to my tyranid army and not be one of those guys with nine different armies on the go. I have a kid and a mortgage, one army is enough hobby for me. But I find myself lusting over a crimson fist siege vanguard list.

Maybe if you fling enough bodies at them, you'll gain the victory by drowning them in blood.

I already threw out my play confession, but for modeling I am such a perfectionis.t I need all mould lines gone, and make sure no glue if showing, and that any gaps are carefully greenstuff filled before I will start paining. All barrels need to be drilled, and the model to be in a reasonable pose. Like its pretty bad because I'm doing an escalation league now and Fallout 4 just came out and I need to study for school but I refuse to half ass my paint jobs like I did in the past.

I consistently try to join units and independent characters via run moves, falling back, or consolidation moves. It just seems like it should be a thing.

My opponents always catch me and correct me which is fine it's just a reflexive thing. It just feels so natural.

My modeling confession: I am extremely lazy about painting. I had played Guard for 2 years before I painted a single model, and the first few ones I did paint were painted half-heartedly. I've gotten better now, but I used to be so bad about it.

 Ubl1k wrote:
I'm with some of the guys with never having bought a codex, the thing is I want to read all the fluff and it would be so expensive I'd never be able to buy models I understand it's a bad thing to have 'legal' pdfs but I'd rather have money for models and paint than a book that will change in 2 years

Finally someone else that understands the logic!

I only buy the codex for my primary army. Because I like flipping pages ect and I use it so frequently. Any others are downloaded.

I get upset at new players.
One time I played a teenager playing dark eldar. Running venoms. He kept trying to roll the cannon and rifle at the same time. I told he couldnt, yet he did. I came there for a competitive game, yet got nothing.

Bottle wrote:... It kills me a little inside when opponents in my GW just measure the first few models and guesstimate the guys behind.

My new bane is in AoS when they don't measure most pile-in moves.

Anyone feel my pain?

I feel your pain.

 oni wrote:

Bottle wrote:... It kills me a little inside when opponents in my GW just measure the first few models and guesstimate the guys behind.

My new bane is in AoS when they don't measure most pile-in moves.

Anyone feel my pain?

I feel your pain.

This irks me as well, mostly due to my knee jerk desire to move all my units precisely from 8th edition.

I have yet to play a full game of seventh edition. I normally get disgusted by something about turn 2 and just give up because its obvious that I'm not having fun anymore, the rules just aren't working, and the armies have just gotten to the point of ridiculousness.

Then I go back and play my revised fourth edition rule set and we all have a wonderful time.

I've played mono IG for something like ten years and I have only fully painted two sergeants and a single squad. GRANTED I had alot more painted at one time but years ago when I settled on running a knightworld regiment I stripped EVERYTHING.

Now most of my stuff sits primed and occasionally dry brushed, especially my tanks as I'm struggling with how to make knightworld paintjobs without winding up having harlequin chimeras. That and I spend a LONG time converting every single guardsman,unique sergeants, and commanders.

 Ir0njack wrote:
I'm struggling with how to make knightworld paintjobs without winding up having harlequin chimeras.

What's wrong with being festive?

With Guard I've found the best solution to either go full camo, full stealth, full tactical or just not to. Adapting a Marine scheme or a Knight house scheme to IG can look fantastic. Another example would be Vostroyan Firstborn, Praetorians, or Mordian Iron Guard.

The most important part of any force's scheme is uniformity. That matters doubly so for guard because you've got so many models and so many of them are usually rank and file jobbers. But there's nothing wrong with brightness in the Grim Dark.

I played with an autocannons squad that was just 3 empty 60mm bases with crude 'A' scratched on them for about a year until I finally got around making them.

I spend more time looking at my models, in whichever condition they are rather than actually working on them or painting them.

The likelihood of me painting a model is inversely proportionate to how useful they are to my army.

Melta Veterans, Ork Meganobz and Grav Servitors? Nah I gotta lovingly paint another one of these sick robo ostriches and my custom made rough riders built from a line of Pewter US Presidents that I found.

I'm the TFG of my group; always preparing for the tournament I will never go to... it's at the point where I can't run certain models because my FLGS can't handle them.

Inquisitor Jex wrote:


I spend more time looking at my models, in whichever condition they are rather than actually working on them or painting them.

Yeah, this is me. I really like sitting at my painting table, lovingly turning models over in my hands, and... not actually accomplishing anything. It's awful, but they're so pretty. D:

I made a new kid lock himself in the FLGS bathroom and cry once for tabling his Nids in two rounds.

Our groups most competitive and angry player plays tau and necrons, abusing the cheese as much as he can.
It makes me hate both those armies.
And I've almost started eldar multiple times so I can try to do the same to him.

1) I almost always bring at least one basilisk to my games.

2) I have had an Imperial Knight set for 6 months, and I am only now getting round to actually completing the building and painting.

 Cannibieas wrote:
I made a new kid lock himself in the FLGS bathroom and cry once for tabling his Nids in two rounds.

That's... unfortunate...

Always the problem with young players. Delicate line between teaching and tabling. Lol

I just noticed today that when modeling my Broadside I glued his shoulder pad on upside down. It's been like that for literal weeks and no one has noticed.

I paint a lot less than I should. I have a very big queue of gorgeous models just waiting to be painted.

It's FW, so I paid a lot for that model quality, which makes it more painful still.

I avoid buying the fancier models because my painting style only looks good when the model itself does not.

I usually don't play out a game when the outcome is obvious. I really don't feel like being curbstomped for 2 more turns when both me and my opponent know how it'll go.

Like the OP, I too have never fielded a Basilisk ever. Admittedly I've only been playing IG for 7 years.

Ashiraya wrote:I paint a lot less than I should. I have a very big queue of gorgeous models just waiting to be painted.

It's FW, so I paid a lot for that model quality, which makes it more painful still.

I feel ya there, man. Just look at my sig and you'll see what I mean. I really need to get some stuff painted. And it's not like I hate painting; I absolutely love it! Problem is, I'm categorically lazy and easily distracted.

War Kitten wrote:I usually don't play out a game when the outcome is obvious. I really don't feel like being curbstomped for 2 more turns when both me and my opponent know how it'll go.

I think most people are the same way. Saves time and effort, and in a casual setting you will have that much more time to reset and play another game!

As with several others within this thread I have never once fielded a Basilisk, despite having been playing since around 3rd edition.

My confession is my friends and I get trashed when we play.

Usually by the time we are done setting up we have had a few shots each and smoked a j before setup, and then another before turn 1 starts.

Needless to say you only know rules if you can play precisouly after being in the bag.

Cheers to rolling 6's

Well i play since 5th and though i habitually fielded Basilisks I have since upgraded them to Forgeworld Artillery Carriages.

I never used formations as I don't get how they work I still build armies based on the foc as am not sure what the stander way to build a army is any more

newguy1984 wrote:
I never used formations as I don't get how they work I still build armies based on the foc as am not sure what the stander way to build a army is any more

Welcome to Dakka And don't worry, there are plenty of people still confused by the whole FOC, CAD, Battleforged, Formation, Decurion style of building an army. I'm lucky since the armies I play the most don't really have formations. Maybe "lucky" is a bad word to use, tho