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Post by: Mr Nobody
So.
I don't like the GW battlewagon.
It's fine, don't get me wrong! I mostly just don't like the idea of every Ork vehicle being uniform in design. So, for a while now, I been slowly collecting various pieces to build myself some customized battlewagons. Now the good thing about Orks is that you don't necessarily have to be 'good' at modeling vehicles thanks to their ramshackle aesthetic.
My plan pretty much boils down to this mindset.
I'm randomly putting pieces together until it looks like it might work.
I've gotten some work done already. I'm need to figure out the best way to connect these two chimeras chassis together and that will make a nice, long body and then build a box to fit a turret on top. The two smaller turrets will hopefully sit beside each other on the front. I'm trying to make something inspired by the T28.
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Post by: CommissarKhaine
Looks like you're off to a promising start . Will you be cannibalizing regular battlewagons? I've 'improved' all of mine as well, so can definitely relate!
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Post by: Blackie
I also share the concept that two orks vehicles of the same type MUST look quite different from each other.
Not just the BW: I wanted that for all my walkers, mek gunz, trukks, buggies too.
Plenty of ways to do so: looted vehicles, a kitbash of different ork vehicles, third party tanks or scratch built models using plasticard. Or a mix of each.
The two chimera chassis could definitely work, I suggest using some plasticard to connect them though. It's really hard to assemble a nice looking kitbashed BW with 100% GW plastic.
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Post by: endtransmission
I'm also in the camp that Orky vehicles/mechs should vary wildly in design; though having a couple that look *similar* is ok as it shows that maybe the same mek worked on them, one was copied by an apprentice mek, or they share the same base components.
By using two chimera, are you planning on having a fixed structure, or something jointed in the middle, like those bendy busses? Alternatively, use the 4 Chimera track units in the same way the Halo Scorpion tank uses it's track units for an insane drivetrain
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Post by: Mr Nobody
I have some more progress!
The plasticard seems to be the right idea. I've never worked much with it before so I bought myself a variety pack. It come with a nice, thick piece and I just put a piece of it across the belly. Sorry, no articulation for this vehicle. A little bit of flex but once I build up the body it should be more rigid.
I have a few battlewagon kannons, so for now that will be main armament. Not too many battlewagon parts, but I have plenty of other Ork bits I can put on.
I think I need to measure a bit better. My squares aren't exactly lining up. No worries, with a little green stuff I'll make it look a grot with some generous welding skills came by.
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Post by: Mr Nobody
Gork bless me, I think I have a tank! It's a little plain, but a few more layers of different types of plating should fix that up.
I'm not sure if I should build a larger passenger compartment on the back half or leave it at the height it's at right now. It doesn't quite feel like twelve orks passengers could fit in their, but scale is not exactly a vital component of 40k. Let me know what you think. I also need to figure where to add some doors.
I have hit one little snag though, and it has to do with the turrets.
The two turrets don't quite fit and the turret on the right is just too bulky to fit on the front. Sigh, I guess I'll just buy another turret!
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Post by: CommissarKhaine
Looks like you(re off to a promising start . The turrets will indeed need editing, as you pointed out. If you want it to look like it can handle more passengers, how about adding a deck that extends over the tracks?
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Post by: tzurk
Looking good! I love the triple turret at the front - just screams ork to me. Some finagling and they will be just sweet - although I kind of love the idea of only one of them being able to point in any given direction at one time or else they bump into each other. Picturing the gunners fighting over who gets to shoot what is a great mental image. I know battlewagons aren't technically open topped, but a deck like CK said would be sweet and could even wrap around to the front chassis too in a sort of U-shape. Alternately, you can never really go wrong with a big rack off box on the back. Looking forward to more!
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Post by: Mr Nobody
CommissarKhaine wrote:Looks like you(re off to a promising start . The turrets will indeed need editing, as you pointed out. If you want it to look like it can handle more passengers, how about adding a deck that extends over the tracks?
I like the idea of extending the deck over the tracks. This will also give me room to add things like ammo boxes, spare weapons and grot riggers around the tank. Help add more of that personality.
Also looking at the T28, my main inspiration, it also extends the body over the tracks. I'll have to see if I can build out rather than up.
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Post by: Fifty
Nice to see battlewagons like this for Orks. I also like the general kit well enough, but seeing two of them in the same army is very disconcerting for me. Even when people put a lot of effort into differentiating them, they often look too similar.
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Post by: CommissarKhaine
Building out is easy, add a diagonal strut to the outside of the tracks, add plasticard, skin properly, and add a railing. Plenty of examples of that on these esteemed forums . For added fun, add a chain from somewhere higher that looks like it's holding up the edge of the overhang.
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Post by: Mr Nobody
I little work on the gangways. I like the idea of using chains for suspension, I might use a mix of this and some struts to get more of that ramshackle look.
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Post by: Tyranid Horde
Love a good ork conversion blog, keep it up!
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Post by: CommissarKhaine
Good start, it immediately changes the silhouette of the model and adds some room
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Post by: Mr Nobody
Good news, I am moving!
Of course the bad news is that I have not been able to get any work done. And I probably won't have anything new until the new year. Is there a standard on what counts as threadnomancy in the P&M blogs?
In the meantime I have something else I will eventually get to. I unfortunately can't take credit for this because I actually bought the model. It's amazing what you can find on Ebay. It's skillfully made, but I guess it doesn't really work well in regards to WSYISWG. Hopefully I can just explain which guns work on this thing and my opponent will be forgiving.
I am quite jealous. Hopefully my stuff can look this good.
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Post by: Mr Nobody
I am finally moved in to the new place. I managed to find a pretty good space for my workstation.
The fool I am, I did not mark down where I put the battlewagon pieces so that took a while to figure out. But progress has been made. I built up an engine room/transportation space on rear section. Because nothing pumps you up for combat better than a deafening engine and petrol fumes. Although, I imagine that the meks don't really care about such minutia. I'm getting to the smaller details now. I've figured two access points so far; a large hatch on the back and a smaller one closer to the front.
Hopefully a fire doesn't break out and they'll be fine.
I'm a little lost on what I should do around the sides of the vehicles. The first option is the easiest and I would simply craft a long corrugated steel skirt along the sides. The downside is that big, plain surfaces don't always look good on orks. The second option is to make a more ramshackle, cobbled together ablative plating down the sides. More tedious, but will give a more broken shape.
What do you think I could do along the sides?
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Post by: CommissarKhaine
The pain train is looking good! For the sides, stuff hanging off will work, as well as patched-on armour plates and glyphs to show ownership. IF you have old xbox-credit cards the like, they make a nice different thickness of plasticard. Some glyphs like lightning bolts can easily be traced on plasticard and then carved out.
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Post by: Tyranid Horde
Looking good, and congrats on the house move. There seems to be an appropriate amount of exhausts and the chains on the side really sell it for me.
Might be a bit of work, but cutting into some of the panels would integrate your orky bits into the machine and look like upgrades and not just added armour on the sides. Could be a hassle though with resin.
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Post by: Mr Nobody
CommissarKhaine wrote:The pain train is looking good! For the sides, stuff hanging off will work, as well as patched-on armour plates and glyphs to show ownership. IF you have old xbox-credit cards the like, they make a nice different thickness of plasticard. Some glyphs like lightning bolts can easily be traced on plasticard and then carved out.
I unfortunately tossed out all my old xbox/credit cards during the move. but not to worry, I nought a variety pack of plasticard sheets. Ill have to try my best to mix of the thicknesses. Carving out some plasticard to make some 3D glyphs is a great idea.
Tyranid Horde wrote:Looking good, and congrats on the house move. There seems to be an appropriate amount of exhausts and the chains on the side really sell it for me.
Might be a bit of work, but cutting into some of the panels would integrate your orky bits into the machine and look like upgrades and not just added armour on the sides. Could be a hassle though with resin.
Thank you.
I have a Dremel tool somewhere so I could probably drill out some holes and get a saw in there. Add a few more door and access panels.
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Post by: Mr Nobody
So I think I'm going to hesitantly declare this gunwagon build as 'complete'. It vaguely has the look of a soviet T28 with the three turrets and the ammo hopper on the side (is that an ammo hopper?). Although, I have to admit the 'pain train' is also an apt name for it. I was able to find a nice fit for another hatch on the side unfortunately, but I managed to find a few extra bits and some extra plasticard. I think I've piled on enough armor on the sides.
A also added some grots riggers. They're having an intense discussion on the necessity of portholes on a tank.
Next I want to make turrets to represent the kustom jobs like Da Boomer and The Zagzap. Does anyone know a good way to make a turret ring? It's hard to find plastic tubes with the right dimensions.
What do you think, is there anything else I should add to my gunwagon?
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Post by: Mr Nobody
So, as an Ork player, I think I can safely say that the kustom jobs made available in Saga of the Beast are pretty cool. So I thought it would be equally cool to properly represent these upgrades on my models. With that in mind I've first cobbled together a zagzap cannon. A had a bunch of scrapped electronics which were perfect for some scratch built batteries. Although I did learn something new:
DON'T DRILL INTO A CAPACITOR
Hearing a mystery gas being sprayed into the air around me was not a comforting experience.
Next up will be 'da boomer' and then after that, I might have the beginnings of a promising forktress.
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Post by: IGtR=
Such a characterful model! Truly an orky translation of the real-world inspiration
Thanks for sharing
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And here we have Da Boomer. I've devised a complex, twin action firing mechanism consisting of two grots with hammers. The Ork commander just has to yell into his speakerphone and they'll start whacking away.
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Post by: Gwyn chan 'r Gwyll
Lots of grot action on this one. Looking at scale, presumably it's grots operating the smaller turrets too, eh?
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Post by: gobert
A grot action gun is genius and perfect Orkiness! Great idea!
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Post by: Pointer5
The model is all around Orky. The custom big turrets are awesome. Keep up the great work.
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Post by: Mr Nobody
With the gunwagon pretty much done it's time for the next project. This is going to be my battlewagon/forktress. Something that looks like a moving bunker that can properly fit twenty orks inside.
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Not too much work lately. I've been on a Warthunder kick, and haven't managed my time in the best manner. Videogames: they're fun, but they'll eat away at your attention.
I've built up the rear of the vehicle into some form of engine room. I have also figured out exactly how I want the treads to sit against the body. The body is a little longer than I wanted, but the other solutions require a lot more breaking.
I also wasn't pleased with the front of the vehicle. I figured that a battlewagon should have plenty of exits to better get to the action. So I added a gangway to the front so my boyz can get stuck right away.
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Post by: Mr Nobody
The main shape of the tank is pretty much done. Now it's down to the weapon options and extra plating. From what I've heard it's not very point-efficient to give battlewagons the big guns, so I'm just going to throw a few big shootas. This might actually make this thing feel more like a bunker. I'm not sure on the shoota arrangement just yet. Let me know what you think about the gun layout.
Now the next step might be more interesting. I'm planning to pile on a bunch of sandbags and some barbed wire. Let me know if you have any tips for that sort of thing.
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Post by: IGtR=
I love the idea of the Orks creating a mobile bunker, and think it really suits the Orks!
Thanks for sharing
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Post by: Illumini
Great builds, the gunwagon turned out great, including the alternate turrets. The new one looks very promissing.
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Post by: Ragsta
Great builds, mate, really original looking scrappas. Just remember plenty of rivets!!
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Post by: Mr Nobody
Ragsta wrote:Great builds, mate, really original looking scrappas. Just remember plenty of rivets!!
Oh god, the rivets. The hardest part of making ork vehicles.
So many rivets...
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Post by: Warboss_Waaazag
An ork after my own heart. These are excellent. Good luck retaining your sanity placing all the rivets.
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Mr Nobody wrote: Ragsta wrote:Great builds, mate, really original looking scrappas. Just remember plenty of rivets!!
Oh god, the rivets. The hardest part of making ork vehicles.
So many rivets...
A possible speed cheat for creating rivets - look up nail beads as rivet alternatives! I used to chop up plastic rod but switched and it saves me half the misery. Only half mind you
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Post by: Mr Nobody
Ragsta wrote: Mr Nobody wrote: Ragsta wrote:Great builds, mate, really original looking scrappas. Just remember plenty of rivets!!
Oh god, the rivets. The hardest part of making ork vehicles.
So many rivets...
A possible speed cheat for creating rivets - look up nail beads as rivet alternatives! I used to chop up plastic rod but switched and it saves me half the misery. Only half mind you
Oh, those look promising and for a decent price too. I'll have to look for some.
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Post by: Mutant Modifier
Wonderful job with the battlewagon!
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Post by: Mr Nobody
I got a lot of work done lately.
Or at least it feels like lots of work. Sculpting sandbags isn't hard work, but it's certainly time consuming. I have some liquid greenstuff somewhere, that might help add some roughness to the sandbags. If you have any suggestions for texturing fabric, I would love to use it in the future.
My inspiration for sandbags came from some posts I was reading about improvised armor for tanks. It struck me as a great aesthetic for orks. And certainly fits that mobile bunker idea. Why wait for someone to walk towards your machine gun nest when you can just role it towards the enemy?
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Post by: kenderthistle
это отличная машина. хорошее количество деталей! надеюсь увидеть - болты, гайки, цепи, скобы и шипы. тогда это будет волшебно! я всегда немного завидовал парням которые могут применить танки других фракций. желаю удачи! Waaaagh! Automatically Appended Next Post: Mr Nobody wrote:I got a lot of work done lately.
Or at least it feels like lots of work. Sculpting sandbags isn't hard work, but it's certainly time consuming. I have some liquid greenstuff somewhere, that might help add some roughness to the sandbags. If you have any suggestions for texturing fabric, I would love to use it in the future.
My inspiration for sandbags came from some posts I was reading about improvised armor for tanks. It struck me as a great aesthetic for orks. And certainly fits that mobile bunker idea. Why wait for someone to walk towards your machine gun nest when you can just role it towards the enemy?
о текстуре ткани.... можно попробовать завернуть greenstuff в ткань и сжать. текстура ткани оставит след. можно применить пластырь, который на тканевом основании( возможно он не во всех местах продается). мой друг делал так..... женскими колготками. 6.50 по времени https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiEV9J0yPyA&list=PL1r3Iba7T8oj4sN7aSX-JQRJmqKS3u_5o&index=7
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Thank you for the tutorial. Rolling the putty into a long sausage and then cutting it into pieces is much more efficient than sculpting them one at a time! A will need to find some nylons or rough cloth next time I make more sandbags.
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Post by: Tyranid Horde
Tremendous work on the tanks since I last checked in, the sand bags are a lovely touch as well.
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Post by: IGtR=
Love the sandbags, and looking forward to seeing this with some paint on it!
Thanks for sharing
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Post by: Mr Nobody
And it's done. Sandbags, barbed wire and a few machine guns; a potent combo when you want a mobile strongpoint.
I'm going to take a quick break from the workshop. I need to get some models painted for a little D&D. When I get back I'll be building a bonebreaka and then, as my final piece, a kitbashed killbursta.
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Post by: Gwyn chan 'r Gwyll
Yup, definitely love the "mobile fortress" vibe from this!
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Post by: IGtR=
Really awesome vibe from the mobile fortresss
Can't wait to see paint on it....
Thanks for sharing
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Post by: Mr Nobody
Here's a bare bones trukk for my boys. Decided to make it as cheap as possible and not add anything to it. Just a little public transportation.
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Post by: The Riddle of Steel
Great truck. The halftrack look is always very Orky and those front wheels remind me of the original ork battlewagon from the 90s. And you can never go wrong with a massive engine. Engines and exhausts are like dakka - you can never have too much.
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Post by: IGtR=
It does look very classic!
Thanks for sharing
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Alright onto the next battlewagon. this one is going to be a bonebreaka.
Fortunately, I found this bad boy on ebay. I've always wanted to use a land raider to make a battleagon and some lovely folks have already assembled it the way I wanted. For a good price too. I've decided rip off some of the extraneous pieces. I don't think I'll bother giving it any latrge weaponry. Maybe just a few big shootas.
I'm still waiting on the parts I need to start the front and top of the vehicle, so I have been adding a few pieces to the sides while I wait. A little bit of extra plating, like any ork would. I didn't like the gaping holes in the side so I added some chain curtains so I wouldn't have to worry about painting the inside. My idea was that the chains would help mitigate any shrapnel flying into the tank.
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Post by: IGtR=
New battlewagon looking snazzy
I love it when an Ebay find gives you inspiration, and it kick starts a new project. Always nice when someone else has taken the first step, as like getting a welcome present, it takes something indulgent and allows you to treat yourself.
Thanks for sharing
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Post by: gobert
Cool eBay find, the chains are a cool addition. The Lad poking out the side door is a great fit, though he makes it look like the vehicle has come to a standstill. Perhaps swapping his shoota to the other hand so his left hand can be inside holding on to something? That might allow him to be facing forward, seeing where the hoomies are for shootin
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gobert wrote:Cool eBay find, the chains are a cool addition. The Lad poking out the side door is a great fit, though he makes it look like the vehicle has come to a standstill. Perhaps swapping his shoota to the other hand so his left hand can be inside holding on to something? That might allow him to be facing forward, seeing where the hoomies are for shootin
Unfortunately I've coated the chains in superglue to keep them in place. But that is a pretty good idea...
I'll have see if I can break the bond. Time for some more ripping.
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Alright, so ripping the ork out wasn't that bad. The superglue was quite brittle and easy to break. I also decided give him a big, nasty mace.
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Post by: VonGerrow
Love these. Thinking about building a Squig-Wagon to go alongside some Squig Buggies, think I'll incorporate those panels held out to the sides with chains.
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Post by: Mr Nobody
The parts have finally arrived! I already had a deffrolla on hand, but I wanted a second one. So I ordered the upgrade kit from GW, not think about the shipping times. Because why have one deffrolla when you can have TWO of them?
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Nice deffrollas! I feel like two is proper orky
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Post by: Bencyclopedia
The deffrollas in the landraider is a fantastic idea. They are looking awesome.
I look forward to seeing how it turns out!
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Post by: Mr Nobody
A lot of work has been done. I'm nearing completion at this point. I just have a bit of work to do on the cupola. I have a model coming in the mail in a few weeks and I think I'll add a big shoota for the commander as well. It wouldn't be a Bad Moons battlewagon if there wasn't at least one piece of dakka.
There's still room for changes and additions, so I'm always open to suggestions.
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Post by: gobert
Looks like you’ve been busy. The lad hanging of the side looks really cool now and gives a bit of dynamism to the model. I’m glad it worked out for you! The other side seems like it needs something to add character to it, maybe a grot hanging on to the side or some Orks symbols maybe? The commander was worth the wait he looks very serious watching things get crushed in his rollers. They kinda look like big industrial scrap metal shredders, which are right up an Orks street! Nice work!
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Post by: Illumini
That looks very orky, it is super cool
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Post by: Killatores
The double deffroller looks amazing, reminds me those crusher machines that eat anything you throw in them!
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Post by: Mr Nobody
Thanks for all the comments. I'm like the drukhari, except with validation instead of pain.
I certainly feel like my skills have improved with all these builds. Or at least, the process now feels easier and more comfortable. Which is good because I have left the biggest for last.
Behold, my killtank. And I believe I am beginning to reach a significant fractions of 'enough dakka'. The baneblade may be a little big for a killtank, but I don't think my opponents will complain much about having a bigger target. I loved the idea of a turret from a naval gun slapped onto a tank chassis and it felt like a great aesthetic for the Bad Moons. Someone on facebook said I should name it Da Broddside.
But let me tell you, don't build round turrets! Boiling and bending all this plasticard into the same curve has been a nightmare. I had to glue and clamp each piece and then leaving it for 12 hours, so work has slowed to a snail's pace. But it's looking pretty cool so far and I've moved onto thinner plastics so things should move faster.
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Post by: Illumini
Looks like another very promissing build.
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Post by: gobert
That does seem to be approaching the order of magnitude of enough dakka! . The rounding of the turret looks as though it was worth the pain. I also love how the front of the chassis resembles a squigoth, neat touch
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Post by: IGtR=
This is certainly approaching the level of sufficient dakka
Thanks for sharing - always a joy to look at your work!
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Post by: Warboss_Waaazag
That's an okay amount of dakka, for sure.
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Post by: Afrodactyl
Looks sick!
I was looking to do something similar, how well do the battlewagon and baneblade kits mesh together?
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Post by: Meer_Cat
Just read your blog from start to finish- terrific stuff! Your builds are very innovative and look like a lot of fun to play when they're finished. Love the new multi-gun turret- nothing says "Ork" like moar dakka!
I look forward to more WIP pics.
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Afrodactyl wrote:Looks sick!
I was looking to do something similar, how well do the battlewagon and baneblade kits mesh together?
Very well actually. In terms of width, the battlewagon cabin fits nicely between the track sections. The depth is a bit of an issue though. You will either need to build a frame inside for the battlewagon to sit on or cut off the front glacis so it can sit on the floor... actually, I might try that idea instead.
Meer_Cat wrote:Just read your blog from start to finish- terrific stuff! Your builds are very innovative and look like a lot of fun to play when they're finished. Love the new multi-gun turret- nothing says "Ork" like moar dakka!
I look forward to more WIP pics.
Thank you, I appreciate the encouragement. I just need to finish painting up a stormsurge for this months painting challenge and I'll get right back to work.
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Alright, back on track with the killtank. I have put on a decent volume of plating on the turret and made a nice place for the commander. I'll need to put some grots on later, something that tells a story. Next will be the actual chassis.
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Post by: Gwyn chan 'r Gwyll
Wow, that scale! It's a good bit bigger than it was in my head. It's even MORE dakka!
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Post by: gobert
I know your said it might be approaching enough dakka, but it looks like there’s a bit of real estate for MOAR dakka, maybe a pintle mounted shoota? Seriously though, it looks great already
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gobert wrote:I know your said it might be approaching enough dakka, but it looks like there’s a bit of real estate for MOAR dakka, maybe a pintle mounted shoota? Seriously though, it looks great already
I will admit there is a gap or two. I've filled one of the gaps with peeking grot, but I might have space for one more gun in the mouth. My limiting factor now is that I am running out of guns! I might have a razorback's twin bolter somewhere...
I also need to add a twin big shoota and a skorcha. I have an idea for the skorcha, but I think you have helped figure out where toput the big shootas. I think I can fit it on a mount in front of the commander. Thanks for the idea!
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Post by: The Red Hobbit
Realy love the multiple guns sticking out a single tank turret, I'll have to try a similar conversion next time I build a battlewagon.
Oh and I really love the double deff rolla on the previous page. Reminds me of one of my favorite traps in Orks Must Die!
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Post by: Mr Nobody
I'm going to have to put the killtank on hold because I have finally found the old ork battlefortress. I've wanted this model for ages and I promised myself I would buy it if it ever turned up again. It's most likely a recast, but even those are rare! This isn't going to be the easiest build. There are many parts and the instructions are rather rudimentary. Not to mention the warping. But it is doable!
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Post by: bobbuilder
great conversations, i love the orks coming through the chain doors, gives the piece movement
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Post by: Mr Nobody
Alright, the main body is done. But GOOD GOD this model has problems. There was, straight up, not enough track pieces. Fortunately the side panels hide this, but there were a few tracks I had to cut down to size and move around. And the seller seems to have given me way too many track wheels. It doesn't help that the instructions I found online are not most thorough. So building has been a slow and painful process, but it’s nice to see it come together.
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Post by: gobert
That’s a cool diversion. The warping seems pretty hardcore, but good work bodging the tracks and wheels, you can’t tell from the pics.
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So the model is pretty completed as it comes. But there are a few places that don’t fit nicely and the overall model is looking a little sparse. So next I’ll ad some extra details. Glyphs, welding and some extra orks and grots running around. Let me know what I should add. I can put up to 5 big shootas if I want to.
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Post by: Da Dez-Urt Groxx
Like your work. Especially the double rolla. . Keep it up!
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Looking good, and surely you want at least 5 big shootas?
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gobert wrote:Looking good, and surely you want at least 5 big shootas?
Are they better know with the new dakka rules? I keep hearing people saying they're not worth the points.
Why I care about competitiveness when I'm using something from legends is beyond me...
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Post by: The Riddle of Steel
It is great to see this monster coming together. Looking good.
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No idea how they play, but the answer to how much dakka is surely always more dakka?
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that looks amazing
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I thought I would post on this thread again. I swear, I'm still building ork stuff! But you know how it is, other projects are always calling for attention.
Gearguts mekshop was having a sale, and I wanted to take advantage if it. So I bought and printed this big mek. I should have a stompa and morkanaut some time in the future.
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Back to working on some Orkish vehicles again. This time just trying to finish up an ork killtank from FW. No fancy modifications, it's a fantastic model as it is. I thought I would show the painting technique I have for painting vehicles. A paint of the whole in a simple rust scheme. Brown with drybrushed orange. After that I will apply chipping medium and then airbrush yellow on top and then hit the whole with water and a toothbrush.
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Post by: Mr Nobody
Killtank completed. It was my first time using chipping medium through an airbrush and it behaved very differently than the hairspray method. The spattering was much smaller and more uniform and my chipping was a little to small and consistent for my taste. A more uneven application will be needed next time. But at least that will give more control. The bane of my pursuit for randomness.
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Post by: XCaligulaX
This is why Orkz are the best army. The ingenuity of Ork players and possibility of conversions make it the best army in 40k. Well done.
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Post by: Mr Nobody
It's time to get some of these Ork vehicles finished. Well, at least one of them. I need it for a game. And I'm getting back into with the most riveting part of vehicle building: Riveting! The ultimate form of self flagellation for any sculptor or kitbasher! There are many ways to accomplish it, each with their own unique form of pain!
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Post by: BarryScott
Rivets for the rivet god!!!
Some great work going on here
Think I prefer some of your conversions to the forge world sculpts, some of them have become a bit dated and a bit bland by comparison. It's almost like you need to kitbash them a little to make them less generic and have a bit more character about them.
Anyway, great stuff, subscribed
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Post by: Amblard da Mega-Krumpa'
This thread is AMAZING!! Great job on everything thus far. I am looking forward to more.
Cheers!
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Post by: Mr Nobody
BarryScott wrote:Rivets for the rivet god!!!
Some great work going on here
Think I prefer some of your conversions to the forge world sculpts, some of them have become a bit dated and a bit bland by comparison. It's almost like you need to kitbash them a little to make them less generic and have a bit more character about them.
Anyway, great stuff, subscribed
Thank you, I'm really flattered!
I do prefer the FW sculpts over the GW ones, though. There's a busy-ness that FW resin has that I think is slightly lacking in GW plastic. And that's part of the fun of kitbashing ork stuff. Taking as many different materials as I can and piling it on top of the basic model. Of course it never really feels like it's finished. Just a couple more plates here. A few more rivets there.
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Post by: endtransmission
That's a lot of dakka on that there turret!
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Post by: Afrodactyl
Your wagons are beyond cool, proper orky and the right level of killy and silly
I come back to this blog whenever it pops up, it's about time I posted here and told you how good a job you're doing!
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Post by: Tommygun1918
Mr Nobody wrote:It's time to get some of these Ork vehicles finished. Well, at least one of them. I need it for a game. And I'm getting back into with the most riveting part of vehicle building: Riveting! The ultimate form of self flagellation for any sculptor or kitbasher! There are many ways to accomplish it, each with their own unique form of pain!
Have you ever tried using a 1/16 inch paper hole punch to make your rivets out of plasticard? I use it all the time on my vehicles and it might be faster and easier.
https://www.amazon.com/Fiskars-Inch-Hand-Punch-Circle/dp/B0001DT3YU?th=1
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Post by: Mr Nobody
Tommygun1918 wrote: Mr Nobody wrote:It's time to get some of these Ork vehicles finished. Well, at least one of them. I need it for a game. And I'm getting back into with the most riveting part of vehicle building: Riveting! The ultimate form of self flagellation for any sculptor or kitbasher! There are many ways to accomplish it, each with their own unique form of pain!
Have you ever tried using a 1/16 inch paper hole punch to make your rivets out of plasticard? I use it all the time on my vehicles and it might be faster and easier.
https://www.amazon.com/Fiskars-Inch-Hand-Punch-Circle/dp/B0001DT3YU?th=1
Interesting. That's something I might need to experiment with. It might also be useful for making piles of gold coins. I do like the green stuff for it's randomness. I figure orks would not be that consistent at riveting, half heartedly heating and hammering them flat. Automatically Appended Next Post: I probably should have held off on the update, I actually got the riveting done rather quickly. And I'm looking at this thing from end to end and I think I'm safe to call it ready. I think I'm ready to start painting this thing. I have a whole pile of grots to pick from, I think I'll add them after everything is painted up. And maybe give some extra attention to the nob boss on top.
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Post by: DoctorDanny
That turret!!!!
Great battlewagon, it's so over the top that it's truly orky.
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Post by: muette
Maaan that battlewagon looks fantastic!
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Post by: gobert
Nice amount of dakka! Great work getting it ready for painting. Looking forward to the grots hanging on for dear life!
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Post by: Illumini
That is a lot of dakka! Really great detailing on that beast
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Post by: Mr Nobody
Orks use only the finest operating systems: grots. Versatile, Compact and easily replaceable. The humble grot is immune to all kinds of digital and spiritual warfare.
Seriously though, I think GW putting goblins/grots in the same army as Orks was a stroke of creative genius. They easily add so much character and visual story telling to any miniature. And their small size makes them easy to fit on vehicle and model bases.
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Post by: Amblard da Mega-Krumpa'
" I think GW putting goblins/grots in the same army as Orks was a stroke of creative genius."
I am totally with you on this point, and your use of them to convey the character and visual story telling is superb!
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Post by: gobert
I’d not thought of grots as an OS, but it makes so much sense! Love the one hiding by the barrels
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Post by: Illumini
It is great. KV-2 like with the monster turret
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Post by: Mr Nobody
Thank you. In hindsight a big, boxy turret may have been easier to construct. Bending plasticard is a pain.
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Post by: Illumini
Well, you need the additional space for ammo storage with that many guns, so worth the effort
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Post by: Skinflint Games
These are absolutely brilliant! If it helps, for rivets we use blobs of quick dry PVA applied with a cocktail stick or paperclip and it usually does the job
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Post by: Mr Nobody
Skinflint Games wrote:These are absolutely brilliant! If it helps, for rivets we use blobs of quick dry PVA applied with a cocktail stick or paperclip and it usually does the job
Interesting. I should have some normal PVA, but I'll have to see if my craft carries something with a faster dry time. Do some experimenting.
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Post by: Skinflint Games
Mr Nobody wrote: Skinflint Games wrote:These are absolutely brilliant! If it helps, for rivets we use blobs of quick dry PVA applied with a cocktail stick or paperclip and it usually does the job
Interesting. I should have some normal PVA, but I'll have to see if my craft carries something with a faster dry time. Do some experimenting.
Try the tacky glue, basically PVA with some isopropyl alcohol in it to make it dry quicker
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Post by: Gulgog TufToof
That tank is brilliant, nice job!
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Post by: Gwyn chan 'r Gwyll
I have been loving this tank through it's entire process - it looks amazing!
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Post by: gobert
Cracking work on the tanks, it certainly has plenty of dakka!
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Post by: Mr Nobody
Finally, more Ork stuff!
The new codex is coming out soon and I've got a game lined to play with it. I have five days to get two tanks done, so need to do this quick and dirty. Starting off with a scheme that can be accomplished with just an airbrush, which is just a basecoat of brown with rough patches of reds and oranges scattered on top.
I don't know why my camera makes it look like baby poop, but it came out much more orange than this.
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Post by: ZergSmasher
Those look pretty cool so far, nice conversions! The camera sometimes doesn't play nice with colors in certain light either. I've had some of my photos come out oddly before.
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Post by: gobert
Nice return with plenty of dakka!
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Post by: Llamahead
These are excellent I miss generic ork vehicles a trak or a buggy makes more sense than everything being 1 of 4 totally specific vehicles.
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Post by: gobert
Cool trukk, they might want to go a bit easier on the accelerator though!
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Post by: Mr Nobody
gobert wrote:Cool trukk, they might want to go a bit easier on the accelerator though!
Nah, it just has garbage rpm's. It makes the engine sound louder.
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Post by: bullisariuscowl
Sweet ride. Where we goin'?
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Post by: Tommygun1918
That trukk is great looking. Really nice job on the paint.
Very nice dust/dirt effects.
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Post by: gobert
Mr Nobody wrote: gobert wrote:Cool trukk, they might want to go a bit easier on the accelerator though!
Nah, it just has garbage rpm's. It makes the engine sound louder.
And I guess Red uns go fasta!
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