I made a couple of threads building up to the release of Battlefield, which comes out Thursday in Europe and Tuesday in the US. I made this thread so that, when it comes out, and before, we can sorta discuss the game (and it looks great). I recommend checking out the Youtube channel for BF3. So other than anything discussed before, any thoughts on BF3?
Gah just made my post and found this one. I will just add my comments and see if I can delete my thread.
I have it for PC and find it pretty amazing. Pretty, more tactical gameplay than BC2, absolutely chaotic at times in firefights.
The Canal one with the Amtrac is actually pretty fun. I only played for 30 minutes on rush mode on the Seine river map. Lots of little hidey holes in buildings and alternate routes to the MCOMs. Perfect for support to kill singles or doubles running to the objective.
bombboy1252 wrote:The game won't let me connect to multiplayer at all, it just says "failed to connect to EA online, please try again"
Apparently, EA didn't prepare for this, and their servers were crashing...
I haven't had this problem and neither have my coworkers. You should check your router to make sure there aren't any port restrictions in place. Only problems I've had are laggy servers, and a few crashes to desktop, other than that it is pretty stable and a bunch of fun.
Haven't had any issues with the MP myself either, in fact its growing on me kind of fast. This is my third shooter on the PC( TF2 and Red Orchestra 2 being first and second) so I'm still getting used to some of the controls and I haven't even dared to try jets or helicopters yet(do not want to be that guy), but the tanks are fine for me(thank you World of Tanks and RO2) as well as the IFVs. I was playing a match last night on the Canal level I think(conquest, Train Yard and Dry Docks are points C and B respectively) as the Russians and managed to shoot down two minichoppers with the IFV and then proceeded to destroy any that spawned. Then my IFV got destroyed and I decided to use a tank... have you ever seen an inflatable raft getting blown up by a tank, its rather fun to see. I did feel like a jerk though because the match devolved into the entire Russian team owning all the CPs and camping the coast, bombarding the US spawn with both tanks and IFV fire. Even our chopper flew out there and actually went into the ship's bay where the US team spawns in their amphibious IFVs and boats... it was pretty bad.
It took the goodness of BFBC2 and combined it with everything from the golden age of BF (BF2 that is).
The game is freaking beautiful! My buddies were over yesterday, and said right at the beginning "I don't see how this is any better than the vids of MW3" then the carnage started and they were speechless. All of the details that went into this game shine. The flare when you step into the sun, the billowing smoke from downed vehicles, your cover getting blown to shreds when you get in deeper than you meant to.
It is nice that this game finally gives the teeth back to PC gaming.
bombboy1252 wrote:The game won't let me connect to multiplayer at all, it just says "failed to connect to EA online, please try again"
Apparently, EA didn't prepare for this, and their servers were crashing...
I haven't had this problem and neither have my coworkers. You should check your router to make sure there aren't any port restrictions in place. Only problems I've had are laggy servers, and a few crashes to desktop, other than that it is pretty stable and a bunch of fun.
I'm playing on 360, don't know what your playing on, but after about an hour of trying it finally connected.
It's not bad gameplay wise, but I (And, as Google seems to show, many others as well) have some major complaints related to the Singleplyer campaign. I -HATE- how you have to launch it from a webpage. That's a terrible idea. EA should fire the idiot that thought that up. The audio lag is just awful, and there are points where the sound effects or dialogue will play as early as 10 to 15 seconds before the actual cutscene animations. There's a major bug in Villa, pt2 as well, that prevents some players from completing the mission:
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When Captain Cole enters and demands that Dimi drop his weapon and lie on the ground, you don't regain control of your character until AFTER Cole shoots, and thus causes you to fail. I'm getting this bug, unfortunately. It's been like that 5 times now. Every time, the same moment you regain control is AFTER he shoots.
Honestly, if you haven't picked up BF3 yet, and you intend to play through the campaign first, wait. It's so broken and buggy that it's not worth $60.00 yet. EA is good about patching - they'll fix it, but they're also busy, and if the MP works fine, then they're going to throw anything SP related on the backburner for later. So if you're looking to get it to experience the SP campaign, don't. Not yet. Let them fix it first.
I was planning on getting BF3 for the PC, but between work and my thesis paper I completely missed its release date.
Apparently the only way to get all the guns would have been by pre-ordering and getting the 'Physical Warfare Pack;' otherwise you get less game for the same price and have to compete in MP with people who have access to exclusive (and likely far superior) weapons. Fun.
I'm going to swing by Best Buy tomorrow and see if they can hook me up with the pre-order bonus (sometimes they will, on the provision that you pre-order something else, ie. skyrim). Gamestop is much more consistent with that policy, but don't carry PC games (at least in my area) so it's up to Best Buy. If I can't get it, I'll pass on BF3 and wait 2 weeks for MW3.
metallifan wrote:It's not bad gameplay wise, but I (And, as Google seems to show, many others as well) have some major complaints related to the Singleplyer campaign. I -HATE- how you have to launch it from a webpage. That's a terrible idea. EA should fire the idiot that thought that up. The audio lag is just awful, and there are points where the sound effects or dialogue will play as early as 10 to 15 seconds before the actual cutscene animations. There's a major bug in Villa, pt2 as well, that prevents some players from completing the mission:
Spoiler:
When Captain Cole enters and demands that Dimi drop his weapon and lie on the ground, you don't regain control of your character until AFTER Cole shoots, and thus causes you to fail. I'm getting this bug, unfortunately. It's been like that 5 times now. Every time, the same moment you regain control is AFTER he shoots.
Honestly, if you haven't picked up BF3 yet, and you intend to play through the campaign first, wait. It's so broken and buggy that it's not worth $60.00 yet. EA is good about patching - they'll fix it, but they're also busy, and if the MP works fine, then they're going to throw anything SP related on the backburner for later. So if you're looking to get it to experience the SP campaign, don't. Not yet. Let them fix it first.
Actually, I only had the game crash once in the beginning of the game and that was due to me not updating my graphics card. Other than that I had absolutely no problem, also I didn't experience a bug with Cole at all but I did note that if you try to aim he'll kill you so you have to just shoot without aiming, I guess that its more like one of the quick-time events.
Don't like the website launch that much either because it takes awhile for it to warm up and then longer to launch the game but its similar to steam start up wise in my opinion. I also had absolutely no issue with audio lag and I don't know what your system is like, but you may have to update something in order for it to run properly. If that doesn't work then you might have to uninstall and then reinstall the game.
Stormfather wrote: Apparently the only way to get all the guns would have been by pre-ordering and getting the 'Physical Warfare Pack;' otherwise you get less game for the same price and have to compete in MP with people who have access to exclusive (and likely far superior) weapons. Fun.
You will get the physical warfare weapons for free after a month (I think there was an exact date) or so. The weapons that are exlusive are Back to Karkand weapons and EA gunclub gun.
Only gun that seems powerful is type 88. SVD is first battle rifle you get in the game and DOA is semi auto shotgun.
It really brought back everything they took away from us during BFBC2 (which admittedly was a very good game too).
BF3 does a good job of doing a lot of small things visually and gameplay-wise that make it its own game while still staying very very true to the franchise.
If you liked BF2 or any of the others in the franchise you'll love this. And if you have the machine to run it to its full capacity (I bought my new computer just for this stupid game lol!) it will continue to stun you at every corner.
I think the dogfighting section was my favorite level. Got part 2 of the villa to work after 7 or 8 attempts - ridiculous, but whatever. I've finished the SP campaign. I have no need to replay that now.
Also, loved the Johnny Cash at the start. Had just enough class to not be -totally- cliché.
Yeah, it plays a lot like BF2. The support class gets a LMG and can set up a mortar, similar to BF2 where they could call in a strike. Engineers can get stingers which are like the laser designators recon used to have in BF2.
Game play is a lot like BF2 and you'll fit right in but there is one big change and that is the fact that you can spawn directly into a jet or helicopter in order to prevent spawn camping. There are instances where you actually base jump and when you do the character model looks like they're diving before pulling the chute.
The knife kills are cool, it takes two from the front but if you can get them from the back you do an assassination animation. For example if you find a sniper prone and stab him from behind your character actually grabs him from the shoulder, rolls him over, and stabs him in the chest. But it doesn't end there because if you're the one being stabbed your screen moves to reflect you being rolled over and then stabbed so you end up looking at the guy stabbing you. Its all very, very cool.
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metallifan wrote:I think the dogfighting section was my favorite level. Got part 2 of the villa to work after 7 or 8 attempts - ridiculous, but whatever. I've finished the SP campaign. I have no need to replay that now.
Also, loved the Johnny Cash at the start. Had just enough class to not be -totally- cliché.
Did you just shoot instead of trying to aim? Not making fun of you or anything but I want to know if that was the trick. I know that the first time I didn't realize that I had been given back control so I just sat there like an idiot and got myself killed.
Oh, but there is one thing concerning the PC version of the game's multiplayer and that is the fact that you may need to bind a key to change seats in the vehicles. I started playing and got into an IFV and for the life of me couldn't switch to the gunner's position until I assigned a key to it. Choppers have a big learning curve but are somewhat easy to get into afterwards so long as you don't get an engine crippled and gravity takes over, yes vehicles can be disabled before being destroyed and sometimes its fun to watch a jet or helicopter just free fall with a guy in there. It sucks to be the guy in the chopper though.
metallifan wrote:I think the dogfighting section was my favorite level. Got part 2 of the villa to work after 7 or 8 attempts - ridiculous, but whatever. I've finished the SP campaign. I have no need to replay that now.
Also, loved the Johnny Cash at the start. Had just enough class to not be -totally- cliché.
Did you just shoot instead of trying to aim? Not making fun of you or anything but I want to know if that was the trick. I know that the first time I didn't realize that I had been given back control so I just sat there like an idiot and got myself killed.
Yea, I tried that after the first 2 failed attempts - first time I tried aiming, second time I tried lying down as ordered. Then the next 5 or so times I tried hipfiring. Just kept not working. My guess is that there's a quicktime icon that's supposed to be showing up, and someone just derped and forgot to add it in.
Hate f***ing quicktimes. So f***ing much. They also took a huge chunk of the enjoyment out of it for me.
Really I won't be truly happy until battlefield goes back to the great bot battles that it used to have, before it stupidly decided to self-appoint itself as the Modern Warfare killer. Even just making it possible to play an MP match against bots would be great. I don't mind true MP, but the problem is that I really don't give half the damn that most of the nerdraging 'tactical monkeys' that play MP do. Seriously. I don't care how much better your K/D ratio is. I don't care if charging a tank yelling "ALLAHU AKBAR" is going to kill me and cause me to lose points for my team. Etc...
Ah yes, tank charging. Too be honest though I haven't heard anybody yelling about individual acts of stupidity, then again I don't have voice chat on so I may be missing out on a lot. To add on to the previous statement I will have to admit that there seems to be one BMW every match who takes things too seriously.
Seriously, if I decide to take out a chopper by ramming it with my hornet I'm going to take out that chopper by ramming it with my hornet.
EDIT: It appears that the PS3 version gets the expansion a week earlier than 360 and PC. Don't really see the point to it though, now if the two consoles played against each other then it would give the PS3 side an advantage because they could get used to the maps first but they don't play against each other so I fail to see the reason behind it.
One issue though is that i cant get my Battle Feed to work. It keeps saying that my account has not been activated. I have an EA account which is active but i cant associate my xboxl ive persona with it (there doesn't seem to bea link anywhere on the website).
I had an online chat with customer services and they said that if i download and play any free EA demo that will kick statrt the acount.....didn't work.
Has anyone else had this problem and managed to resolve it?
I have also tried logging into battlelog.battlefield using my origin detaisl bt it wont work....but if i go to the origin site and use the exact same details, i can login no problem!
I wish I could have gotten this for PC but I had to settle on getting it for my PS3 since I don't have Windows 7...which really sucks cause BF games work so much better on PC and I'm not very good at online fps's with a gamepad(M&K is so much better for shooters)
That being said it is extremely fun, especially with a competent squad and team. I'll end up getting it for my PC once I finally upgrade to Windows 7, but if you have the choice get it for your PC
I have a 9800 GT and run it on high fine. My CPU i5 quad picks up the rest of the slack
Automatically Appended Next Post: I like how that the game is like you have said SOO much like BF2 but also so different in a good way, (I CAN SNIPE PEAPLE!)
So far the only thing I don't like is that the Helicopter controls are not similar enough for me to pilot at the same level of AWESOME as in BF2
Automatically Appended Next Post: Oh and I don't like battlelog that much, (I would have it over Games for Windows Live ANY DAY thou)
Yeah, I have yet to cap a base after jumping out of a helicopter and lacing the ground with C4... I do miss the civilian vehicles though because there was nothing like jumping out of a speeding car strapped with C4 just to blow it up when it rammed into the back of an Abrams.
halonachos wrote:Yeah, I have yet to cap a base after jumping out of a helicopter and lacing the ground with C4... I do miss the civilian vehicles though because there was nothing like jumping out of a speeding car strapped with C4 just to blow it up when it rammed into the back of an Abrams.
I prefered the quad bike c4-drive-by it was fun hectic and surprisingly effective.
Finally starting to get semi decent. I like how the game nails medium range fire fights. Its certainly not 'twitch' like modern warfare (which i like also), its more about shooting the people that cant see you rather than quickdrawing faster than the guy that can.
Couple minor things: The Recon's starting weapon, the semi auto sniper (even though they look different they appear to be mechanically identical) is a bit toothless.
The support's starting weapon is also pretty rubbish, have only started using support now i've unlocked the PeePee2000.
It's also never consistant when dciding where you will exit a tank. In my expererience you exit where you will most likely be killed.
I know its unrealistic but having a team-mate shine his Taclight in your eyes unintentionally (or indeed intentionalyy) is Very annoying. Make the Blind effect only enemies. Or at least have the character say 'Get that Effing thing outta my face!!!'...
Get into a good position with the bipod on the support kit, an elevated position looking down an alley or something near a point is best. Get 24 kills and die twice.
Seriously, all I had to do was throw down an ammo kit to keep myself filled and put the bipod on the low wall on the edge of a building and mow down the hapless enemies as they tried to capture the point to my right.
584 metres. That was with the sv98 + 12x + bipod obviously, and it took a few goes lol. The funny thing is i followed it up with a hole in one 384m as a passenger in a boat.
Are there better sniper rifles? The Sv89 or whatever is pretty sweet.
Perkustin wrote:584 metres. That was with the sv98 + 12x + bipod obviously, and it took a few goes lol. The funny thing is i followed it up with a hole in one 384m as a passenger in a boat.
Are there better sniper rifles? The Sv89 or whatever is pretty sweet.
Really like it and started the on-line play last night. Only gripe is that the campaign mode it didn't appear to last that long. Anyone interested in meeting up on-line my gamer tag is "WulfricWulfstan"
On a slight side note. Although the graphics and game play are getting better (love the action when you run and jump over a wall) is the campaign mode suffering? On-line seems to be the big pull nowadays, and although I enjoy it, a good campaign mode / storyline makes it for me.
The 'dima' missions were good, they actually captured some of MW's magic. The others were pretty rubbish, alot of the time you can see the enemies spawn right infront of you.
The difficulty is also all over the place, some of the bits felt like cod4 on veteran. This was also made worse by the unclear 'healthbar', most the time its impossibe to tell your getting 'lit the eff up' before its too late.
Reading more of this thread has me *tthiiiiiiiissss* close to purchasing it. I just have to decide if I want to go for a hard copy from Best Buy or download from Origins.
Wolfstan wrote:Really like it and started the on-line play last night. Only gripe is that the campaign mode it didn't appear to last that long. Anyone interested in meeting up on-line my gamer tag is "WulfricWulfstan"
On a slight side note. Although the graphics and game play are getting better (love the action when you run and jump over a wall) is the campaign mode suffering? On-line seems to be the big pull nowadays, and although I enjoy it, a good campaign mode / storyline makes it for me.
Your new to the Battlefield series I guess? Everything before Bad Company didn't even have a campaign/story. It's always been a multiplayer game. And that's where it shines. The campaign is just a big tutorial.
DickBandit wrote:The alleyway in Grand Bazar always turns into a cluster feth. Haha, after the second time playing that map I learned to avoid it!
I spen an entire match taking cover in one fot he buildings there...
Litterally a grenade going off every 5 seconds and rockets whizzing their way down the alley. There were so many bullets it was genuinely dangerous to even try to cross it...
Fun times.
DickBandit wrote:The alleyway in Grand Bazar always turns into a cluster feth. Haha, after the second time playing that map I learned to avoid it!
I spen an entire match taking cover in one fot he buildings there...
Litterally a grenade going off every 5 seconds and rockets whizzing their way down the alley. There were so many bullets it was genuinely dangerous to even try to cross it...
Fun times.
I was sitting there once and found out that I could shoot under the garage door, killed so many people by shooting their ankles to pieces. Killed some fools who would try to dive under it. Best of all I was standing behind a counter so grenades really didn't do too much. Eventually someone managed to run past my ankle killing zone and ran in through the open garage door right next to it in order to get me.
Wolfstan wrote:Really like it and started the on-line play last night. Only gripe is that the campaign mode it didn't appear to last that long. Anyone interested in meeting up on-line my gamer tag is "WulfricWulfstan"
On a slight side note. Although the graphics and game play are getting better (love the action when you run and jump over a wall) is the campaign mode suffering? On-line seems to be the big pull nowadays, and although I enjoy it, a good campaign mode / storyline makes it for me.
Your new to the Battlefield series I guess? Everything before Bad Company didn't even have a campaign/story. It's always been a multiplayer game. And that's where it shines. The campaign is just a big tutorial.
So is this different to Battlefield 2: Bad Company? I thought it was the next one. Obviously missed something along the way
Wolfstan wrote:Really like it and started the on-line play last night. Only gripe is that the campaign mode it didn't appear to last that long. Anyone interested in meeting up on-line my gamer tag is "WulfricWulfstan"
On a slight side note. Although the graphics and game play are getting better (love the action when you run and jump over a wall) is the campaign mode suffering? On-line seems to be the big pull nowadays, and although I enjoy it, a good campaign mode / storyline makes it for me.
Your new to the Battlefield series I guess? Everything before Bad Company didn't even have a campaign/story. It's always been a multiplayer game. And that's where it shines. The campaign is just a big tutorial.
So is this different to Battlefield 2: Bad Company? I thought it was the next one. Obviously missed something along the way
Wolfstan wrote:Really like it and started the on-line play last night. Only gripe is that the campaign mode it didn't appear to last that long. Anyone interested in meeting up on-line my gamer tag is "WulfricWulfstan"
On a slight side note. Although the graphics and game play are getting better (love the action when you run and jump over a wall) is the campaign mode suffering? On-line seems to be the big pull nowadays, and although I enjoy it, a good campaign mode / storyline makes it for me.
Your new to the Battlefield series I guess? Everything before Bad Company didn't even have a campaign/story. It's always been a multiplayer game. And that's where it shines. The campaign is just a big tutorial.
So is this different to Battlefield 2: Bad Company? I thought it was the next one. Obviously missed something along the way
DickBandit wrote:The alleyway in Grand Bazar always turns into a cluster feth. Haha, after the second time playing that map I learned to avoid it!
I spen an entire match taking cover in one fot he buildings there...
Litterally a grenade going off every 5 seconds and rockets whizzing their way down the alley. There were so many bullets it was genuinely dangerous to even try to cross it...
Fun times.
I was sitting there once and found out that I could shoot under the garage door, killed so many people by shooting their ankles to pieces. Killed some fools who would try to dive under it. Best of all I was standing behind a counter so grenades really didn't do too much. Eventually someone managed to run past my ankle killing zone and ran in through the open garage door right next to it in order to get me.
Operation Metro and Seine Corssing are also slaughter-fests...
Wolfstan wrote:So is this different to Battlefield 2: Bad Company?
Not really. They're both Battlefield Games after all.
One is a tongue-in-cheek campaign and the other one is a try at a military thriller.
And no one ever plays Battlefield games for single player Halo
I was talking multi-player and game play wise. Maybe I misunderstood what was being discussed. I see lots of similarities between the two games myself, though BF3 also has a lot of BF2 in it. I can't say I'll miss the poor hit registration of BFBC2 myself. It's nice when you shoot someone and the bullets actually counts as hitting him.
Hey you called an Englishman one of the worst insults in the English culture.
He called a Dutchman one of the worst insults in the Dutch culture. So it's good.
Now I'm sure the Germans and Dutch have some bad blood between the two groups, but the English and French have always had bad blood. They went to war against each other for 75 years once.
Germany bombed us while we were neutral. Germany conquered us. And they are our eternal rival in sports as far as we are concerned.
Also... Britain should be our bitch, we are the last country to succesfully invade them, and we owned them in the Naval wars. Then we made them the naval super power by making london the trade city of world and we became allies against Spain and france I love history.
Actually...think one of the voice over is scottish...I play the medic...everyone loves a medic...PC.....Jahadin...some bloody korean took my usual name
Sadly he has to actually live over the bridge for that, so no go.
I could actually walk there tonight if i felt inclined too...
It's raining though so... maybe later.
Why on earth would you?
Getting out of here and into England is one of my higher priorities once my studies are done.
Also, how is this game specifically for Xbox360 users?
It's pretty good on the box...
The graphics are pretty nice but i'm willing to bet they are a bunch of times better on PC.
The smallish server size does suck a bit though...
Does anybody know a quick way to raise $60 without selling any of my organs or doing something illegal?
It's only illegal if you get caught
Anyways, trade in old games you aren't playing anymore to gamestop?
OT, I'm loving BF3. I've been using the Killer Johnny-5 robot instead of the repair tool. hard to get control of at first, but now that I can use it effectively, I love it.
Watched the vid, god, trip down memory lane with a bif splash of nostalgia. I played every single game, from day 1 release. Have had huge clans in both desert combat and BF2, and even won in some of the biggest LAN parties with those clans.
Im really enjoying it, but very disappointed with the minimal destructible terrain and buildings. I thought that was one of the main features of frostbite 2?
Skippy wrote:Im really enjoying it, but very disappointed with the minimal destructible terrain and buildings. I thought that was one of the main features of frostbite 2?
Shoot more. Most walls in the game can be blown open and most medium and smaller sized building collapsed. It's just not as easy as in BFBC2. Buildings are a little more robust.
Skippy wrote:Im really enjoying it, but very disappointed with the minimal destructible terrain and buildings. I thought that was one of the main features of frostbite 2?
Shoot more. Most walls in the game can be blown open and most medium and smaller sized building collapsed. It's just not as easy as in BFBC2. Buildings are a little more robust.
You crap yourself when it happens though...
Nothing quite like having your cover blown away in a salvo of RPGs...
Its very annoying, everytime i've played Damavand Peak as a rush defender i get killed before i can do the epic 'FALLL BAAACCCKKK!!' off the edge of the cliff. It jst doesnt feel the same as the attackers.
Having a shot using the SV98 with silencer, ACOG and straght bolt, can be pretty lethal.
Just had a great time with Purple. Non stop tank driving.
At one point (purple behind the wheel offcourse) we slide off a road, fall down, in front of enemy tank, and proceed to blow it up. Magic is what it was.
Kanluwen wrote:You need someone REALLY good with a SOFLAM to literally 'walk' the Javelin onto it.
But it sounds ever so fun, I think that there needs to be a dakka clan set up on PC for this game. I know that I thank my World of Tanks experience when it comes to operating armored vehicles, my helicopter and fighter skills are somewhat lacking, but I'm better with a jet compared to a helicopter though. Cannot figure recon out for the life of me but I like the assault and support classes. Engineer when I'm tanking.
Sol's a much better pilot than Purplefood, for the record. Sol can drop me literally on the rooftop of the building near B's Dry Dock on the shipyard.
I turned that rooftop into Kan's Rooftop Party Palace, replete with motion sensors, a spawn beacon, a SOFLAM pointing at where they like to drive the RU likes to drive their tanks, and a launching point for my UMAV.
Kanluwen wrote:Most of us are playing it on the 360.
Sol's a much better pilot than Purplefood, for the record. Sol can drop me literally on the rooftop of the building near B's Dry Dock on the shipyard.
I turned that rooftop into Kan's Rooftop Party Palace, replete with motion sensors, a spawn beacon, a SOFLAM pointing at where they like to drive the RU likes to drive their tanks, and a launching point for my UMAV.
'Twas glorious.
See, whenever I play the shipyard map on the RU side it usually turns into the RU bombarding the hell out of the US spawn. Siting in the range from the shore to the little bird spawn with the T-90's main gun is glorious.
They can bombard the spawn all they want, I have a SOFLAM and Sol has a Javelin. He doesn't need LOS or even to lock onto the tank proper. He just locks onto my SOFLAM.
Kanluwen wrote:They can bombard the spawn all they want, I have a SOFLAM and Sol has a Javelin. He doesn't need LOS or even to lock onto the tank proper. He just locks onto my SOFLAM.
My point is, you don't get on land. You either die in the air or the sea but never on land at least until your body washes up on shore.
Bought it today on X-Box 360. I don't know what I am doing wasting my time on the computer though!
Got a great deal for $398 AUD: 250gb X-box 360, Battlefield 3, Fable 3, Halo Reach and 3 month gold card for X-Box live
So who's playing on the 360? UnadvisedClock6 i Will gladly be Assault/engineer/Support with a good team. I am only recon 'cos no-one wants to team up. :( EDIT: thats a good deal guy!
Kanluwen wrote:They can bombard the spawn all they want, I have a SOFLAM and Sol has a Javelin. He doesn't need LOS or even to lock onto the tank proper. He just locks onto my SOFLAM.
My point is, you don't get on land. You either die in the air or the sea but never on land at least until your body washes up on shore.
Never happens in my experience. Tank can never down the first little bird. Once that's on the mainland we have at least one spawn beacon up. And I have literaly spent 100% of my time as Engineer so far. So taking care of a tank is no biggy. (I always play out each class one at a time )
Kanluwen wrote:They can bombard the spawn all they want, I have a SOFLAM and Sol has a Javelin. He doesn't need LOS or even to lock onto the tank proper. He just locks onto my SOFLAM.
My point is, you don't get on land. You either die in the air or the sea but never on land at least until your body washes up on shore.
Never happens in my experience. Tank can never down the first little bird. Once that's on the mainland we have at least one spawn beacon up. And I have literaly spent 100% of my time as Engineer so far. So taking care of a tank is no biggy. (I always play out each class one at a time )
Just had a great time with Purple. Non stop tank driving.
At one point (purple behind the wheel offcourse) we slide off a road, fall down, in front of enemy tank, and proceed to blow it up. Magic is what it was.
That was so much fun... They shouldn't be allowed to have a boost function on MBTs... I also refute the claim that anyone is a better driver than me...
Kanluwen wrote:They can bombard the spawn all they want, I have a SOFLAM and Sol has a Javelin. He doesn't need LOS or even to lock onto the tank proper. He just locks onto my SOFLAM.
My point is, you don't get on land. You either die in the air or the sea but never on land at least until your body washes up on shore.
Never happens in my experience. Tank can never down the first little bird. Once that's on the mainland we have at least one spawn beacon up. And I have literaly spent 100% of my time as Engineer so far. So taking care of a tank is no biggy. (I always play out each class one at a time )
Plus he's terrible without the launchers.
Apart from only ever using launchers on infantry to dislodge campers?
Windows Vista is FAIL, Windows 7 have 7.000 bugs ( instead of reparing it they are releasing Windows 8 next year to try it all over again. ), Windows XP still has better support for all games that are produced today + 90% of people are using it.
See what I mean?
Oh, I saw it now, I am sorry. I meant that most people here are still using XP, we are not US or EU.
Anyway I am not using XP I am using LastXP, custom OS made of Windows XP SP3 and Windows Vista, I can support all from XP and Vista and I have DirectX10 support. Reason why I can't play BF3 is for not having Win7.
Kanluwen wrote:They can bombard the spawn all they want, I have a SOFLAM and Sol has a Javelin. He doesn't need LOS or even to lock onto the tank proper. He just locks onto my SOFLAM.
My point is, you don't get on land. You either die in the air or the sea but never on land at least until your body washes up on shore.
Never happens in my experience. Tank can never down the first little bird. Once that's on the mainland we have at least one spawn beacon up. And I have literaly spent 100% of my time as Engineer so far. So taking care of a tank is no biggy. (I always play out each class one at a time )
Plus he's terrible without the launchers.
Apart from only ever using launchers on infantry to dislodge campers?
Oh, I don't use the tank to take out the Little Bird when its in the air. I can get lucky with indirect shots sometimes but never continuously lucky. I use the machine gun on the little mini-van thing the Russian side has. Take out the first Little Bird in the air, wait for it to respawn and light it the hell up from a distance. Eventually the rest of my team gets the picture and soon we have both tanks and IFVs mowing down anything that tries to leave the amphib. Get a competent enough heli pilot and he'll just fly right into the launch bay and kill guys in their spawn.
Very good with RU on that map.
I will say this though, I hate it that it doesn't switch teams. I can understand keeping parties together but my team consisted of scrubs with the highest level being 20. The other side had mostly 20+ and the clan guys who had what I guess is prestige(little eagle and shield symbol). Five guys on the other team had F2000s and massacred us 8 round straight until we managed to beat them by 10 points in TDM. Then they stomped us 100 to 34. Terrible time had by my team.
Brother Coa wrote:Oh, I saw it now, I am sorry. I meant that most people here are still using XP, we are not US or EU. Anyway I am not using XP I am using LastXP, custom OS made of Windows XP SP3 and Windows Vista, I can support all from XP and Vista and I have DirectX10 support. Reason why I can't play BF3 is for not having Win7.
So... Buy Win7 then? I don't see what the problem is. Seems like someone just wants to complain.
I've run 7 on 2 different PCs since it came out (3 if you count my work PC), and I've never had bugs from the OS - Only from games and/or programs not designed to run on it. Which is no suprise there.
Argh. I might not be able to play this game any further. It crashes after 3 or 4 rounds of play. Shuts down my computer. I just realized it could be a heat issue. I think BF3 is overworking my GPU or my CPU. or both.
djphranq wrote:Argh. I might not be able to play this game any further. It crashes after 3 or 4 rounds of play. Shuts down my computer. I just realized it could be a heat issue. I think BF3 is overworking my GPU or my CPU. or both.
Try lowering the graphics and making sure everything is up to date. The game messes up on me sometimes when I do multiplayer 64, but I think it might be due to my sound card not being upgraded.
I'm running FurMark to check my card right now and so far its running great for about 25 min. I'm topped off at 82 degrees C. I downloaded new drivers too for my Radeon HD 5770 but have yet to run them with BF3. If the crashing still occurs I'll try lowering the graphics settings.
Brother Coa wrote:Oh, I saw it now, I am sorry. I meant that most people here are still using XP, we are not US or EU.
Anyway I am not using XP I am using LastXP, custom OS made of Windows XP SP3 and Windows Vista, I can support all from XP and Vista and I have DirectX10 support. Reason why I can't play BF3 is for not having Win7.
djphranq wrote:I'm running FurMark to check my card right now and so far its running great for about 25 min. I'm topped off at 82 degrees C. I downloaded new drivers too for my Radeon HD 5770 but have yet to run them with BF3. If the crashing still occurs I'll try lowering the graphics settings.
I ran a stress test on my CPU and hit high temps pretty quickly... I think something is up with my heat sink. Or maybe its time for a new CPU. I ran a temp monitor while running BF3 real quick and the temp for one of the cores shot up pretty quick. I think I found my problem. /sigh
djphranq wrote:
I ran a stress test on my CPU and hit high temps pretty quickly... I think something is up with my heat sink. Or maybe its time for a new CPU. I ran a temp monitor while running BF3 real quick and the temp for one of the cores shot up pretty quick. I think I found my problem. /sigh
Its likely the heat conductive gel on the cpu is the issue or it's jammed with dust, heatsinks don't really go bad (the fans can, eventually) and you'd be getting blue screens all over the place once your cpu starts to fail.
While its not always that bad, it is sometimes, and basically makes it impossible to play. And no, changing to raw mouse input doesn't fix it, it actually makes it worse.
Dual monitors are one thing W7 doesn't like. Seems that plugging in 2 monitors tends to mess with most games running on 7. Try running one monitor and see if it fixes the problem.
djphranq wrote:
I ran a stress test on my CPU and hit high temps pretty quickly... I think something is up with my heat sink. Or maybe its time for a new CPU. I ran a temp monitor while running BF3 real quick and the temp for one of the cores shot up pretty quick. I think I found my problem. /sigh
Its likely the heat conductive gel on the cpu is the issue or it's jammed with dust, heatsinks don't really go bad (the fans can, eventually) and you'd be getting blue screens all over the place once your cpu starts to fail.
Turns out my system just might have needed a bit of dusting. This afternoon when I got up that was the first thing I did. I'm running stress tests now and am getting cooler temperatures. I'm going to run the tests overnight and then give BF3 another try tomorrow. I'm sooo feenin' for some Conquest right now.
While its not always that bad, it is sometimes, and basically makes it impossible to play. And no, changing to raw mouse input doesn't fix it, it actually makes it worse.
Soladrin wrote:ROFL, PETA is now saying that the rat stab leads to animal cruelty.
Idiots.
PETA's headquarters are currently 15 minutes from me right now. I say that everone comes over and we all play the campaign on large screens and repeatedly stab the rat in front of their offices. Of course it is cold out so bring your fur coats, we will have a barbeque going to feed anyone who arrives.
Finally flew a frogfoot, loved mowing down those little jeeps. Shooting down the A-10 was cool too, but I can make a jeep go boom faster.
I now hate MAVs though, they are incredibly annoying especially when there are three of them from the other side buzzing around and trying to get kills by ramming you.
2. Hide in bushes near E, D and C (not necessary but the forest contains most bushes also having paratrooper camo helps)
3. Deploy MAV and scout the forest for enemies but remember where you are(try also flying high with mav as when you exit mav will slowly fall to ground).
4. Lastly ambush enemies when aren't looking at your way.
I had lots of fun using this tactic I got like 20-30 knife kills and 2 melee ribbons. I first just tried using IRNV (for scouting) but mav is lot better.
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halonachos wrote:Finally flew a frogfoot, loved mowing down those little jeeps. Shooting down the A-10 was cool too, but I can make a jeep go boom faster.
I now hate MAVs though, they are incredibly annoying especially when there are three of them from the other side buzzing around and trying to get kills by ramming you.
You shouldn't worry mav maving you down as it's rather hard to ram people with mav and you can't mav down certain people (mortar users, people who play with bots). True terror mav creates does not come from ramming.
Stunningly fun game, took the old BF2/BC2 and made it even better.
Had my doubts about the hype machine but its delivered.
Very very good launch imo too. Virtually no errors when connecint/logging in/updating/server stabilty.
Considering some of the train wrecks of late all in all well happy.
Honestly, from my experience with FPS games on PC, I prefer FPS games on consoles, just because people's sensitivity isn't quite so ridiculous and thus the gameplay is much more conservative. I know it must look much better on PC, but the PC hardware race has always kind of turned me off, especially since I know nothing about hardware and installing it with computers. 64 players must be nice too, but I still love the game on Xbox.
imark789 wrote:Honestly, from my experience with FPS games on PC, I prefer FPS games on consoles, just because people's sensitivity isn't quite so ridiculous and thus the gameplay is much more conservative. I know it must look much better on PC, but the PC hardware race has always kind of turned me off, especially since I know nothing about hardware and installing it with computers. 64 players must be nice too, but I still love the game on Xbox.
I like my console for some FPS games, but with BF3 you're underwhelmed on the console version. The biggest complaint is that the maps are too large and you run forever before finding anyone to shoot.
imark789 wrote:Honestly, from my experience with FPS games on PC, I prefer FPS games on consoles, just because people's sensitivity isn't quite so ridiculous and thus the gameplay is much more conservative. I know it must look much better on PC, but the PC hardware race has always kind of turned me off, especially since I know nothing about hardware and installing it with computers. 64 players must be nice too, but I still love the game on Xbox.
I like my console for some FPS games, but with BF3 you're underwhelmed on the console version. The biggest complaint is that the maps are too large and you run forever before finding anyone to shoot.
Well to an extent that's what I like about BF- unlike cod, there isnt some five year old jumping around every corner spraying and praying with a P-90. Also, there is plenty of room to outmanoeuver (sp?) your opponent, and the huge maps make for sweet long range sniper shots and what not. Bad Company 2 seemed to have a good ratio of map size to players, but I agree, sometimes on maps like Caspian Border it just feels too spread out. Spawning on teammates and vehicles does make getting around the map easier though.
halonachos wrote:Sorry, but in real life wars are fought in tight, confined regions, not vast tracts of land.
All wars in real life are fought in the same type of environment? I'll preface this by saying I have no combat experience whatsoever and don't really know much about modern combat, but I find that sweeping generalization hard to believe. I also understand that combat probably does focus on cities and thus urban environments in this day and age but what about when an army is advancing on a city?
halonachos wrote:Sorry, but in real life wars are fought in tight, confined regions, not vast tracts of land.
All wars in real life are fought in the same type of environment? I'll preface this by saying I have no combat experience whatsoever and don't really know much about modern combat, but I find that sweeping generalization hard to believe. I also understand that combat probably does focus on cities and thus urban environments in this day and age but what about when an army is advancing on a city?
First of all my statement was a joke, second of all BF3 has all sorts of maps. Seine Crossing is a good city map, Caspian Border is a good open map at a border crossing, and Operation Firestorm is a nice desert fight for an oil facility. Then there are coastal maps with amphibious ships. No those aren't aircraft carriers, those are amphibs.
halonachos wrote:Sorry, but in real life wars are fought in tight, confined regions, not vast tracts of land.
All wars in real life are fought in the same type of environment? I'll preface this by saying I have no combat experience whatsoever and don't really know much about modern combat, but I find that sweeping generalization hard to believe. I also understand that combat probably does focus on cities and thus urban environments in this day and age but what about when an army is advancing on a city?
He was kidding, simmer down. The joke being that for every hour of total time spent in combat while out on a patrol, you'll spend 10 more climbing hot piles of rocks for as far as the eye can see, and wondering why your ass signed up for this.
I got a buddy of mine from work who plays it on PC and we often team up. He's used to tank and flight simulators so he has a lot of this down, in fact we also both play World of Tanks, which helps in the tank combat portion a bit.
He's a better chopper pilot than I, but we'll often be wingmen for each other and rule the unfriendly skies with guns and rocket pods. I would suggest that if you are in a fighter that you should stick with your other fighter to be more effective. It means you can double team enemy fighters and it also means that you can take out enemy tanks or other vehicles in one pass.
If you decide to work together to blow up some enemy armor the first guy gets a vehicle disabled and points for assisting in vehicle destruction which should amount to around 150 points, the second guy should get a vehicle destroyed and maybe a kill which should add to 150 points. Of course the first guy gets some bonus points for assisting in a kill I believe, but the points round out to be about the same for both pilots. Team work is what battlefield is all about. If you can't fly and enemy fighters are taking your guys out before they can lift off, get into the AA gun and do some defense.
On a side note, if you do fly bring an engineer class with a stinger. If you get shot down you can eject and target any enemy aircraft and maybe get some revenge.
Use afterburners if someone is getting a lock on you. This ma yseem like a bad idea at first, but it gives you an idea of who is targeting you. If you hit afterburners and evetually lose the lock then it was either a guy on foot, a vehicle, or a helicopter. If it stays locked on then its an enemy fighter chasing you.
When you go to turn and you're being chased by an enemy fighter you should hit the brakes, turn into the enemy fighter, and more importantly go slightly up when turning. Going up decsreases your speed further and allows for tighter turns.
Stealth is a good upgrade, but the air radar is better on hardcore modes where spotting doesn't light up targets on your screen. Air radar replaces your minimap with a little radar that shows you enemy armor, helis, jets, and even spawn beacons. Not sure if it does light up enemy infantry, but just for the vehicles its a good idea. Note: All of this happens in the little radar, not your HUD, at least not in hardcore.
daedalus-templarius wrote:So, pretty sure this game is Modern Warfare with vehicles due to the changes they've made to the damage model.
I much preferred not dying in a heartbeat in BFBC2.
Vehicles combat is fun, infantry meh.
The damage model is actully less damaging than in bc2. The reason why it feel more damaging is because bf3 has better netcode. In bc2 half of your shots would just miss because of bad netcode. In bf3 more shot are being registered.
And the are many times when enemy and me start shooting each other but after noticing that I can't win I run away and survive.
I think I'm in love with this game. I usually get MVP with 20+ kills and less than 5 deaths. I rarely lose in a tank, and I can drift in jeeps. Just found out there that you can deploy mines out the passenger seat in jeeps.
Helis are hard to fly, a lot harder than jets. Is there an advantage to the controls over the ones in BFBC2? Because they seemed a lot easier in that game, so I was wondering if maybe these controls allowed for greater precision or something
daedalus-templarius wrote:So, pretty sure this game is Modern Warfare with vehicles due to the changes they've made to the damage model.
I much preferred not dying in a heartbeat in BFBC2.
Vehicles combat is fun, infantry meh.
The damage model is actully less damaging than in bc2. The reason why it feel more damaging is because bf3 has better netcode. In bc2 half of your shots would just miss because of bad netcode. In bf3 more shot are being registered.
And the are many times when enemy and me start shooting each other but after noticing that I can't win I run away and survive.
They must be bad shots, or really far away.
I think I'm wrong about it being much different than BC2, its just as annoying.
Military shooter is military shooter, I shouldn't be surprised. At least BC2 didn't have stuff like the IRNV, lololololololol.
Soladrin wrote:I love flying choppers, especialy scout type, mostly because I got quite good at it. Ask Kan or Purple :3
My brother loves to fly the Little Bird through the huge underground tunnel...on that one map...I can't recall the name...Anywho, he loves to make passes through the tunnel whilst mowing down people with the miniguns. It's almost unbelievable haha
It seems like they changed the chopper controls in this game...or made it harder haha. The first time I jumped in a helicopter, I crashed it nose first into the ground
...I was a decent pilot in BF:BC2...guess I need more practice in this game
mega_bassist wrote:It seems like they changed the chopper controls in this game...or made it harder haha. The first time I jumped in a helicopter, I crashed it nose first into the ground
...I was a decent pilot in BF:BC2...guess I need more practice in this game
They definitely did change them, if you go to options and change them to Legacy I'm pretty sure they are what they were in BC2 though
Just joking, but that was interesting enough from google. Jets are fun and I find the air radar to be one of the better attachments for it, especially when half of the people in the game don't spot.
I haven't played for awhile as the second patch broke the game and I'm not sure if wan't play bf3 anymore as they nerfed my beloved usas. But yeah I got karkand so I might play those maps and then see how whiners whine more about guns killing them (and not just guns).
My friend and I are planning on trying to switch jets during a match. The way it would work is he would join the other side and we would both get into our respective side's fighters and meet each other towards the middle where we plan to get as close as possible while doing a vertical climb, hitting the brakes, and then ejecting and switching jets. He plays flight simulators so I need to practice a bit. Yes this was inspired by the above video.
I almost have the PP-19 Bizon unlocked. All I need is to plant one more explosive on a M-Com station, and I have about 45 minutes to play on Karkland...I can't wait to unlock it! Gahhh!
Oh I know lol, I actually picked it off the ground and got 7-8 kills with it. The only problem is that the real one uses a 64 round mag, not a 55....but, I know they did it for balancing blah blah blah
I mostly wanted it for aesthetic reasons, cause I've always loved the AK body and that tube magazine...then in actually turned out to be a decent weapon!
Operation metro
Time: under 10 minutes
Team: Attacker
Class: Recon
Basically half of my team was recon and we kicked ass. We just charged the H-coms and took them all in under ten minutes. Was very fun, we won in the next round too with defense.
I think my worst match was a 3 kills to 24 deaths, it didn't help that 22 of those deaths were suicides. It was on Karg Island and I kept trying to steal the US's hornets, I managed to take them twice though but most of the time I either landed in the ocean or managed to roadkill myself with the jet.
I got a nice 25-3 in TDM once as assault, I was pretty happy.
Just had the best game of Battlefield today, was the MVP by a long way, defending in the Terhan Highway game. Just littered the place with anti tank mines haha. And does anyone else get so much joy at knifing people, esp someone who has killed you a couple of times, got a nice collection of dogtags building up Just need to learn how to fly planes now
I love the SG553 so much It looks so cool and preforms pretty damn well. Just got my 3rd service star for it today. Cant stand most optics on it, its iron sights are fine
FAMAS is too good (which is why I use it )
Is anyone else bummed c4 is for support? I wish it could have been an all kit gaget (or that there were all class gagets...)
Last thing, I need some sniper tips, Ive been using the m### EBR from coop, and just got my first bolt action, and it seems like the sv98 takes the same number of shots to kill someone, what am I doing wrong?
When I switched to bolt action I just started racking up the headshots. And I only started playing recon yesterday. I already finished both assignments for recon.
Question, for assignments, do I need to use its intended kit ?
(for the second sniper, it requires 50 headshots, could I get them with a favored kit and the recon?)
Back to the SG553, I just bought an airsoft SG552 (which is the model used in game)
Battle Brother Lucifer wrote:I dont even have the soflam yet
Question, for assignments, do I need to use its intended kit ?
(for the second sniper, it requires 50 headshots, could I get them with a favored kit and the recon?)
Back to the SG553, I just bought an airsoft SG552 (which is the model used in game)
You can use whatever kit you want. As long as it's recon I guess. Haven't really tested.
And as for the laser designations. I got those before I got my soflam... I love my scout helicopter
It's a fun game, but there are a lot of times when you're killed and it's like "Really? He shot me and killed me with one shot from a hip-fired machine gun from 300m away, and my sub machine gun is horribly inaccurate at 20m?"
DickBandit wrote:It's a fun game, but there are a lot of times when you're killed and it's like "Really? He shot me and killed me with one shot from a hip-fired machine gun from 300m away, and my sub machine gun is horribly inaccurate at 20m?"
Uh oh. Looks like EA might be in a spot of trouble
Electronic Arts has found itself in the midst of a legal battle with Bell Helicopter parent Textron over the game maker's use of images of real world helicopters in the game
EA says its use of the choppers — specifically the AH-1Z Viper, the UH-1Y, and the V-22 Osprey — are protected under the First Amendment and constitute fair use. Textron argues they were used without permission and EA failed to pay licensing fees
DickBandit wrote:It's a fun game, but there are a lot of times when you're killed and it's like "Really? He shot me and killed me with one shot from a hip-fired machine gun from 300m away, and my sub machine gun is horribly inaccurate at 20m?"
just because one round hit you in the head doesn't mean he only fired one, with rate of fire being so high on some guns like the 249 , ping, and below average hit detection that has been an issue with battlefield /forever/, it happens =(
Its sort of the price you pay for a "realistic" shooter, if you can die in a fraction of a second it comes out of nowhere, the opposite of which (being TF2 style "unrealistic" shooter) being alot more popular with less ahrdcore gamers because of this.
DickBandit wrote:It's a fun game, but there are a lot of times when you're killed and it's like "Really? He shot me and killed me with one shot from a hip-fired machine gun from 300m away, and my sub machine gun is horribly inaccurate at 20m?"
just because one round hit you in the head doesn't mean he only fired one, with rate of fire being so high on some guns like the 249 , ping, and below average hit detection that has been an issue with battlefield /forever/, it happens =(
Its sort of the price you pay for a "realistic" shooter, if you can die in a fraction of a second it comes out of nowhere, the opposite of which (being TF2 style "unrealistic" shooter) being alot more popular with less ahrdcore gamers because of this.
Sometimes you get people managing to nail you with SMGs. They don't hit you in the head, they shoot you full of bullets my return fire is so innaccurate, despite it being the same gun in some cases, maybe 1 bullet in 10 hit. It's not like i don't try to hit them either. Not cool.
DickBandit wrote:It's a fun game, but there are a lot of times when you're killed and it's like "Really? He shot me and killed me with one shot from a hip-fired machine gun from 300m away, and my sub machine gun is horribly inaccurate at 20m?"
just because one round hit you in the head doesn't mean he only fired one, with rate of fire being so high on some guns like the 249 , ping, and below average hit detection that has been an issue with battlefield /forever/, it happens =(
Its sort of the price you pay for a "realistic" shooter, if you can die in a fraction of a second it comes out of nowhere, the opposite of which (being TF2 style "unrealistic" shooter) being alot more popular with less ahrdcore gamers because of this.
Sometimes you get people managing to nail you with SMGs. They don't hit you in the head, they shoot you full of bullets my return fire is so innaccurate, despite it being the same gun in some cases, maybe 1 bullet in 10 hit. It's not like i don't try to hit them either. Not cool.
Yeah thats concerning
I haven't picked it up yet, in the demo I was running m249 with silencer and it was absolutely horrifying how many kills you could rack up sometimes, and sometimes you just can't hit anything.
mega_bassist wrote:
I did notice something funny, I killed people with the underslung M320 grenades, but the pop-up said I killed them with M320 buckshot...weird...
that happens if they get killed by the impact of the grenade not the explosion
DickBandit wrote:It's a fun game, but there are a lot of times when you're killed and it's like "Really? He shot me and killed me with one shot from a hip-fired machine gun from 300m away, and my sub machine gun is horribly inaccurate at 20m?"
just because one round hit you in the head doesn't mean he only fired one, with rate of fire being so high on some guns like the 249 , ping, and below average hit detection that has been an issue with battlefield /forever/, it happens =(
Its sort of the price you pay for a "realistic" shooter, if you can die in a fraction of a second it comes out of nowhere, the opposite of which (being TF2 style "unrealistic" shooter) being alot more popular with less ahrdcore gamers because of this.
Sometimes you get people managing to nail you with SMGs. They don't hit you in the head, they shoot you full of bullets my return fire is so innaccurate, despite it being the same gun in some cases, maybe 1 bullet in 10 hit. It's not like i don't try to hit them either. Not cool.
Yeah thats concerning
I haven't picked it up yet, in the demo I was running m249 with silencer and it was absolutely horrifying how many kills you could rack up sometimes, and sometimes you just can't hit anything.
The M249 is one of the best Machine guns.
I went on a rampage with it once, racked up a stupid amount of kills.
mega_bassist wrote:
I did notice something funny, I killed people with the underslung M320 grenades, but the pop-up said I killed them with M320 buckshot...weird...
that happens if they get killed by the impact of the grenade not the explosion
Huh, didn't know that! I must be a grenade sniper, because I got it several times yesterday!
Squad ammo on assault
Squad explosives on Engineer
Squad supressive on recon
Haven't played Support yet (I finish each class before switching the next, doing Recon right now) Almost done with MBT and IFV too. Scout and Attack heli's coming along nicely too, though I use less vehicles now that I'm not using engineer.
Sg553 - 340
FAMAS - 223
M16A3 - 68
Sv98 - 60
G17C (supp.) - 59 (hey, a snipers gotta do what hes gotta do. Ive gotten 3 handgun medals in one game before )
Service on PSN is lacking a bit, but some games manage to pull it off. MAG is 256 players at once and I have never experienced lag with it, but then again its an exclusive.
Right? I saw my brother do it while we were playing on STDM. Just be careful - it's easy to make yourself fall off and die...and people can shoot the MAV out from under you LOL
I don't know, I can see where rockets seem a liittle bit underpowered than you would expect, but as far as balancing goes I think they are perfect. I just would naturally expect them to have more splash damage, but if they did, then they would be overly powerful and make the game unbalanced.
So I'm thinking of buying BF3 on PS3, and I've read a lot of negative review about the multiplayer on PS3, and alot of positive reviews. I'm thinking of buying mostly for multiplayer, though a good campaign is nice too. What does Dakka think I should do?
note: I don't have a good gaming PC or an Xbox, its PS3 or nothing, unless you count Wii.
If it weren't for the fact that development for this title was PC-led, I'd have to fall back to the standard 'Consoles, holding back game development by a decade since 2001...
Henners91 wrote:I'm not a pirate myself and agree wholeheartedly (though few ever seem to think about how much damage the consoles do with the second-hand market).
But console hardware effectively constrains graphics development; have we *really* seen much of a jump over the past few years?
Not to derail, but the "think of how much damage consoles do with the second-hand market!" argument is effectively dead.
Most every game now with a MP component(and many without!) include a one-time use "code" within the first-hand copies of a game. You can buy it new, get the code and play. The code is associated with your account from then on--usually entitling you to some kind of free download...
Or you can buy a copy, pre-owned, and have to pay anywhere from $5-$10 to buy a new code. Most people won't justify that much for a code which "completes" their game in some form or another.
I will also add that if console hardware is "constraining graphical development", you should look back at PC games. Most "graphical development" was never that monumental. The jump we saw from the PS2/Xbox graphics to the PS3/360 graphics was actually pretty big.
Henners91 wrote:I'm not a pirate myself and agree wholeheartedly (though few ever seem to think about how much damage the consoles do with the second-hand market).
But console hardware effectively constrains graphics development; have we *really* seen much of a jump over the past few years?
Not to derail, but the "think of how much damage consoles do with the second-hand market!" argument is effectively dead.
Most every game now with a MP component(and many without!) include a one-time use "code" within the first-hand copies of a game. You can buy it new, get the code and play. The code is associated with your account from then on--usually entitling you to some kind of free download...
Or you can buy a copy, pre-owned, and have to pay anywhere from $5-$10 to buy a new code. Most people won't justify that much for a code which "completes" their game in some form or another.
I will also add that if console hardware is "constraining graphical development", you should look back at PC games. Most "graphical development" was never that monumental. The jump we saw from the PS2/Xbox graphics to the PS3/360 graphics was actually pretty big.
I'm just wondering how long that "pay only 10$ extra to play the full game" going to last. It won't take long before you need to start typing key codes with on screen keyboard.
And "constraining graphical development" isn't the whole story. With better tech you get better performance (bf3 has one of the best crossfire/sli scaling) and better performace is everything. Ever wondered why consoles developers always whine about that darn memory budget? Because it's one big ass limitation in making games. Msoft and Sony were so smart when desided to be cheap in the cheapest part in a computer. There are cellphones that kick the gak out of current gen consoles.
But bf3 isn't a great example of pc's capabilities. I find it rather sad as dice tried to please gods and peasants while fighting an ork horde and they failed in all three. PC has great performance but suffers from ridiculous bugs, consoles have less bugs but suffer from ridiculous performance and finally most features/balancing (no voip, most vanilla maps suck ballz) is lacking because EA pushed too early release.
EDIT: beta's long neck monster was funny, I miss him
illuknisaa wrote:I'm just wondering how long that "pay only 10$ extra to play the full game" going to last. It won't take long before you need to start typing key codes with on screen keyboard.
We do that already. No-one honestly gives a gak.
And "constraining graphical development" isn't the whole story. With better tech you get better performance (bf3 has one of the best crossfire/sli scaling) and better performace is everything. Ever wondered why consoles developers always whine about that darn memory budget? Because it's one big ass limitation in making games. Msoft and Sony were so smart when desided to be cheap in the cheapest part in a computer. There are cellphones that kick the gak out of current gen consoles.
Cool. You do know that most people would play a game with crap graphics if it was flipping amazing, right? Like, oh! Hold on! MINECRAFT.
If you play games because they look cool, rethink gaming.
But bf3 isn't a great example of pc's capabilities. I find it rather sad as dice tried to please gods and peasants while fighting an ork horde and they failed in all three. PC has great performance but suffers from ridiculous bugs, consoles have less bugs but suffer from ridiculous performance and finally most features/balancing (no voip, most vanilla maps suck ballz) is lacking because EA pushed too early release.
Oh noez! No VOIP? It's not like you can just type into a damned chat bar or anything...
Automatically Appended Next Post: Oh, and illuknisaa, stop trolling the Console Gamers. Honestly, even the PC gamers are getting tired of you doing it.
illuknisaa wrote:I'm just wondering how long that "pay only 10$ extra to play the full game" going to last. It won't take long before you need to start typing key codes with on screen keyboard.
We do that already. No-one honestly gives a gak.
So you just walk into gamestop buy a game and then resell it? without even playing it? Because you know when you use that code (that unlocks the entire game) you can't use it another account.
And "constraining graphical development" isn't the whole story. With better tech you get better performance (bf3 has one of the best crossfire/sli scaling) and better performace is everything. Ever wondered why consoles developers always whine about that darn memory budget? Because it's one big ass limitation in making games. Msoft and Sony were so smart when desided to be cheap in the cheapest part in a computer. There are cellphones that kick the gak out of current gen consoles.
Cool. You do know that most people would play a game with crap graphics if it was flipping amazing, right? Like, oh! Hold on! MINECRAFT.
If you play games because they look cool, rethink gaming.
Oh so you think performance only grants better graphics? Graphics is a choice of artistic style not some gimmicky trick.
But bf3 isn't a great example of pc's capabilities. I find it rather sad as dice tried to please gods and peasants while fighting an ork horde and they failed in all three. PC has great performance but suffers from ridiculous bugs, consoles have less bugs but suffer from ridiculous performance and finally most features/balancing (no voip, most vanilla maps suck ballz) is lacking because EA pushed too early release.
Oh noez! No VOIP? It's not like you can just type into a damned chat bar or anything
I use Ventrilo for BF3, much better VOIP than most game-provided VOIPs.
Performance helps graphics and the better a console or computer is at handling different processes at the same time then it can allow graphics to be a bit better. If they have to sacrifice processing power to get the game to look awesome then you start cutting into gameplay and features.
If you buy a used game then tough gak. You don't pay the company that keeps the servers up. Its like playing a F2P game and then complaining about how the people who actually pay for items are better.
PC was not always the lead console...and BF3 on xbox far outsold BF3 on PC, so I can see why they did.
I'm not saying that console is better than PC, but I can understand why they switched, I think they began to realize that consoles would have a larger player community.
Everything before Bad Company didn't even have a campaign/story. It's always been a multiplayer game. And that's where it shines. The campaign is just a big tutorial.
