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Post by: Pixelsaurus
so what is the worst experience you've had at your local hobby shop?
my story is when I went in to do some painting and converting of a Iron Lich Asphyxious to make him into a Necron Overlord, so some SM player comes up to me and asked what base model I was using and I said it wasn't a GW model he just shrugged and walked away, seconds later the manager comes up to me and asked me to leave, when I asked him why he said because I was using non GW models, I was suitably annoyed but left calmly.
So what are your horror stories
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Post by: filbert
Why is this a horror story? I have never had the urge to visit a GW store for a long, long time but I wouldn't eat a McDonalds burger in Burger King and nor would I be surprised if I were asked to leave.
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Post by: NoBaconz4You
I can see why he asked you to leave. Why should one company support a rival company? As small as it may seem, it all boils down to that.
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Post by: Optio
The store manager had every right to ask you to leave, you were using the stores supplies on a product that they do not produce. Although im not sure I would like the guy that dobbed you in ethier.
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Post by: marielle
OMG that is terrible! A real horror story.... not.
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Post by: SagesStone
Someone started talking to me about lesbians, I was asked to leave (there were kids around) with them despite them being the only one talking and me try to politely distance myself...
Though luckily enough I was allowed back in after a friend talked to them and they found out I really had nothing to do with it. 
It remains the only time I've been asked to leave from somewhere.
Other than that closest I have gotten was an event that was extremely biased in favor of Space Marines, big deal. So I don't really have any horror stories about GW where they are the cause of it (in before embargo, Aus prices, finecost, Ward, SPEES MEHRIENS etc).
As for non- GW models in a GW store I try to limit myself to at most one model and stick to their requirements. If people ask I just say it's a conversion, I don't point them towards the other line. Pretty much all the managers I've come across have been fine with this. Too many distractions to work on anything in store.
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Post by: Kairos
He could have just asked you to put the model away and not bring it back.
He didn't have to ask you to leave. It was rude watch the language please !
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Post by: Jon Garrett
I was once asked to leave vet's night because I didn't look well and it might stop people coming in to buy things.
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Post by: Ovion
Yeah, the standard policy in GW is the models must be GW product. The exception being bases and some bitz (blades / guns / etc) scratchbuilt Apoc units, but even then they generally need to be at least 50% GW Product ( I tend to find large amounts of Sprue Rubble on bases and Greenstuff to do the job of bringing up the percentage.  ) Exception being scratch built apoc units that are just unreasonably awesome enough to stay.
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Post by: TheSecretSquig
My GW Horror story......................
One day I walked into the store and ended up with a trip to A&E and huge dentist bill in the afternoon. I picked up a box of 10 Ork Boyz and then noticed the price tag. My jaw hit the floor so fast in shock it knocked most of my teeth out.  Quickly I made for the door holding my bloodied Jaw whilst my Wife grabbed all the my teeth from the floor. Unfortunately on the way out I glanced at the price for a tin of spray paint. It was at this point my heart stopped and I fell over in complete and utter shock and disbelief. My Wife quickly called 999 and I eventually regained consciousness in my local A&E hospital.
The hospital referred me to a councillor to help me to understand what had happened. She assured me that Games Workshop Executives suffer from the ‘ GW’ (Greedy Wealth) Condition and leads them to increase their pricing to shocking levels. The shock of seeing the ‘ GW’ Condition caused my incidents.............
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Post by: ironicsilence
I dont see this thread going anywhere useful
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Post by: Gymnogyps
My horror story is from many years ago. A new GW was scheduled to open up right on my drive home from work. I was super excited because at the time, this was the closest FLGS, and dropping by would break up my brutal commute.
So, I placed a web order, paid online, and requested pick up at the new store (Order was for the newly released Chakax and another new lizardmen blister). A few days later, I checked my order online and saw it was ready for pickup. This was prior even to the "Grand Opening", so I was expecting the normal very friendly / enthusiastic GW atmosphere. In fact, I was looking forward to it, due to the crappy drive.
So I get there, and the immediate atmosphere is stand-offish. No greeting, GW guy looks up with neutral expression. Regardless, I am cheerful and happy, and go straight to the counter, super excited to pick up my order. I say, "Hi, I'm so happy you all have opened in this location!" Response: "OK"
I kinda tilt my head and continue, "So I have a web order for pickup." Response, "We don't have it." Immediate response, no bother to look. I said, "No, I checked, my web account says it was delivered here".
The GW guy says: Did you get a call from us?
Me: No.
GW guy: Then we don't have it.
Me: But here is my printout saying it is here to pickup.
GW guy, rolling eyes: Oh, that is you. Your order didn't have a phone number. You should learn how to enter it.
Me, stunned: Uh, I did. I don't know why it didn't go through, maybe something is wrong with the system. Anyway, can I have my order?
GW guy, with contempt: Fine, I'll get it. But you need to enter your phone number.
Me: Uhh... why? I'm here. You have the items. Can I just have my stuff please?
GW guy sneers. He walks to the back.
I'm really, really puzzled at this point, but chalk it up to dude having a bad day, whatever. So I go talk to another guy in street clothes, sitting near by, painting the newly released Stegadon. I try to strike up a convo, about the new lizardmen, excitement about the new releases, about painting, the mini, anything. Nothing but monosyllable responses, snotty, condescending. As it turns out, this is another GW employee, in on personal time.
Other GW guy comes back, and I'm still trying. I ask if they had heard anything about some rumor on the internet- completely light and open, just a, "Hey, have you guys heard anything about..." (can't remember what, now)
GW guy: WHERE DID YOU HEAR THAT?
Me: Dakka or Warseer... kinda interesting, that is all.
GW guy: The internet is for losers. Anyone on the internet is a troll.
He's is clearly targeting this comment directly at me.
Other guy: Heh heh yeah, internet is for losers.
Again, targeted directly at me.
These guys are so nasty they don't even get the irony that I was lambasted for not working the internets correctly (phone number), but then I'm a troll for being on the internet. At this point, I am completely offended. I silently pay and leave. I am ready, right then, to quit and sell every last GW product I own, and if I can't sell it, burn it.
I talk to a friend, who knows the regional manager. Regional manager asks me to come to lunch, apologizes, and comps me a Stegadon. I find out later that both were fired, not because of this, but I still am relieved they aren't around anymore.
That regional manager kept me involved in GW, but I still will not step foot in that store. It can rot for all I care.
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Post by: Leigen_Zero
Jon Garrett wrote:I was once asked to leave vet's night because I didn't look well and it might stop people coming in to buy things.
That's more likely to be a sarcastic/attempt-to-hide-real-motive-behind-humour way of saying 'Get out! I'm not sure which of Nurgle's many and bountiful plagues infects you currently, but I don't want everyone else to be blessed with the same malady after your visit'.
No horror stories, once got told to steer my conversations more towards the hobby when talking about video games during non-games-night opening hours, but that didn't really bother me...
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Post by: Pacific
Gymnogyps, that is quite a genuinely awful story. Sadly, you occasionally get social misfits working in GWs, and it's good that they were got rid of.
Ovion wrote:Yeah, the standard policy in GW is the models must be GW product.
The exception being bases and some bitz (blades / guns / etc) scratchbuilt Apoc units, but even then they generally need to be at least 50% GW Product ( I tend to find large amounts of Sprue Rubble on bases and Greenstuff to do the job of bringing up the percentage. )
Exception being scratch built apoc units that are just unreasonably awesome enough to stay.
I've regularly used entire squads that are not GW models in a store. My IG army is a mix of Pig Iron heads, heavy-walkers and Copplestone Castings terminators. There is even an Infinity model in there, the key is:
- Paint your models, so it is not immediately obvious.
- Don't draw attention to them - if 'that kid' points them out, refute his claim (I always say the Copplestone Castings models are OOP Necrons for instance)
- Don't be a prat and behave like it is your God-given right to use them. It helps if you know the guy working in the store, but always be conscientious with their use.
- Spend money in the store, if the guy working in there is not a complete jobsworth then usually that gives you some breathing room.
Of course the best answer is to play in a club or FLGS, and to revel in the freedom that they offer you, but if you are smart about it you can play unmolested most of the time. I've been at events in Warhammer World where 'best painted' armies have had non- GW components and even models in them, but so much of it comes down to your behaviour and whether you try and behave like a wise guy.
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Post by: TheRobotLol
Gymnogyps wrote:My horror story is from many years ago. A new GW was scheduled to open up right on my drive home from work. I was super excited because at the time, this was the closest FLGS, and dropping by would break up my brutal commute.
So, I placed a web order, paid online, and requested pick up at the new store (Order was for the newly released Chakax and another new lizardmen blister). A few days later, I checked my order online and saw it was ready for pickup. This was prior even to the "Grand Opening", so I was expecting the normal very friendly / enthusiastic GW atmosphere. In fact, I was looking forward to it, due to the crappy drive.
So I get there, and the immediate atmosphere is stand-offish. No greeting, GW guy looks up with neutral expression. Regardless, I am cheerful and happy, and go straight to the counter, super excited to pick up my order. I say, "Hi, I'm so happy you all have opened in this location!" Response: "OK"
I kinda tilt my head and continue, "So I have a web order for pickup." Response, "We don't have it." Immediate response, no bother to look. I said, "No, I checked, my web account says it was delivered here".
The GW guy says: Did you get a call from us?
Me: No.
GW guy: Then we don't have it.
Me: But here is my printout saying it is here to pickup.
GW guy, rolling eyes: Oh, that is you. Your order didn't have a phone number. You should learn how to enter it.
Me, stunned: Uh, I did. I don't know why it didn't go through, maybe something is wrong with the system. Anyway, can I have my order?
GW guy, with contempt: Fine, I'll get it. But you need to enter your phone number.
Me: Uhh... why? I'm here. You have the items. Can I just have my stuff please?
GW guy sneers. He walks to the back.
I'm really, really puzzled at this point, but chalk it up to dude having a bad day, whatever. So I go talk to another guy in street clothes, sitting near by, painting the newly released Stegadon. I try to strike up a convo, about the new lizardmen, excitement about the new releases, about painting, the mini, anything. Nothing but monosyllable responses, snotty, condescending. As it turns out, this is another GW employee, in on personal time.
Other GW guy comes back, and I'm still trying. I ask if they had heard anything about some rumor on the internet- completely light and open, just a, "Hey, have you guys heard anything about..." (can't remember what, now)
GW guy: WHERE DID YOU HEAR THAT?
Me: Dakka or Warseer... kinda interesting, that is all.
GW guy: The internet is for losers. Anyone on the internet is a troll.
He's is clearly targeting this comment directly at me.
Other guy: Heh heh yeah, internet is for losers.
Again, targeted directly at me.
These guys are so nasty they don't even get the irony that I was lambasted for not working the internets correctly (phone number), but then I'm a troll for being on the internet. At this point, I am completely offended. I silently pay and leave. I am ready, right then, to quit and sell every last GW product I own, and if I can't sell it, burn it.
I talk to a friend, who knows the regional manager. Regional manager asks me to come to lunch, apologizes, and comps me a Stegadon. I find out later that both were fired, not because of this, but I still am relieved they aren't around anymore.
That regional manager kept me involved in GW, but I still will not step foot in that store. It can rot for all I care.
What a bunch of  ers. They were fired? YEHZ. what a nice manager.
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Post by: Samus_aran115
I was at my local GW, and it was storming like crazy outside. The lights were flickering, so it was kind of hard to play our game, so we left out armies on the table and went to go get some chow at the local Taco bell. We came back, and the whole store was a bloodbath. The redshirts were covered in blood (but you know, they're red shirts, so you couldn't really tell), and all the other players were thrown into a heap, with their skulls in another pile. There were guts and blood all over the cash register, and a random severed head on the bathroom door handle....Standing in the middle of it all..... a kharne the betrayer model.......He looked at us with his cold, pewter eyes and did something that looked like laughing, and walked out the front door (which was hard, since he was only an inch and a half tall. I had to open it for him). We packed up our armies (that now looked a lot more chaos-y with all that blood on them) and called the police.
We were totally shocked. The police didn't believe us, and we were charged with manslaughter, but we got off because of our taco bell alibi. Thank the emperor.
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Post by: SagesStone
It was believable until you mentioned you went to get food at Taco Bell.
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Post by: Johnny-Crass
My horror story was the day I made the 2 hour drive to my 'local' GW only to find out they closed two weeks prior
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Post by: Experiment 626
My horror stories? Well, this is from the opposite side of the coin from when I worked in the local store before it closed;
- Construction workers cut our internet cable on purpose, (they were told which lines to leave the hell alone and bright neon tape affixed to ALL internet wires in their work areas), 5 days before Christmas!!!
We went for 11 totaly days with no ability to process debit or credit transactions, including a 6 hour stint on the last Satuarday before xmas with no till at all - hand written, cash only transactions worked out on caculators!
- Construction workers cut our internet lines twice more after that first incident. 
Each time forcing our store's provider to come in with their own work crews to replace about 3 football fields length of cable...
- Massive power outages becoming the order of the day and hitting like clockwork at least once every two weeks.
- Our till exploded at one point - completely fried and HQ had to ship us an entire new computer. Good thing we had lots of training in how to hand write and calculate those orders! 
- A new elevator went in in front of store! Yippie, more mall traffic to take advantage of, right?!
6 weeks of an open-air, stinking, crap-filled mud hole with the smell constantly wafting into our store later, we were thinking our next store event would be something like Klingon death matches in said pit...
Oh, then we get told 15 minutes prior to close one night that the welding crew would be coming in and we needed a firewatch due to the likelyhood of flying sparks overnight.
The mall ordered the wrong size of stairs for said escalator so the crews had to grind down those steel stairs... During mall hours! (cue severe nosebleeds every morning due to the smell/dust)
The escalator was bigger than anticipated and thus blocked off our storefront from view on the upper levels... So much for extra traffic. 
- A new recieving bay went in behind our store. When the d-bags applying the chemical sealent to the concret floors had finished, they vented the very unhealthy fumes... STRAIT INTO OUR STORE!!!
My manager and I got pretty ill, the other redshirt working that day got very high, and then very ill. Oh, and mall admin forced to stay open all day despite no one venturing anywhere near our end, The Bay closing off their mall entrance to protect their shoppers and that it would still take about 2 hours to fully vent the fumes out of the mall. (we shut down and went to the hospital to be checked out obviously.)
- Nurmerous small fires started by the construction crews.
- Smaller chemical spills that just made the air taste like everything from rotten fish to a well-used latrine.
- Construction crews not properly secruing the safty walls to the floor AND the cieling so when the inevitable spring/fall wind storm hit, we had to hold up the boards to stop them from crashing down onto passing shoppers.
At the other end of our mall, the feds got involved after a section of the safty hordings were blown down and hit a mother & infant in stroller.
Now, the worst incidents however included;
- The Eastside Mario's attempting to burn the mall down... This of corse was the Black Friday weekend! So we running the Tanksgiving event, and our manager would then be running his own special event which he would then photograph and show-off at the regional manager's meeting the following week!
So, some moron on the line tells someone who's never worked in a kitchen to turn on the salamander oven... except it's empty of food, but hasn't been properly cleaned... So they blast-cook grease. 
3 firetrucks, 5 police cruisers, 2 ambulences, a total mall evacuation and three hours later, our day is completely ruined. Despite being on track for pulling in at least $1500 that day, we finish barely half that and our regional manager asking why he's been cursed dealing with us!
- Construction crews are very late getting a new store ready for open. They decide to put down the industrial glue solvent at 6am in the morning, despite the fact it needs 4+ hours to vent and is highly toxic. At least by this point, I'm on a first name basis with the fire fighters who are coming into my store and telling me to once again evacuate the area! 
The police bring in a mobile command center and the regional hasmat team to help out! It only takes 6 hours to re-open the now 'poisonous-death-free' mall... a couple people actually were rushed to hosptial too as they were overcome by the fumes.
- The D-tox store above our nieghbouring store, (Carolton Cards), has their water heater explode over night and then rain down into the card shop. We also got hit - I get to introduce myself to Mr. Mark Ferguson at the north american HQ by informing him that our LotR wall is now a gently cascading waterfall... (and he *really* wasn't pleased with the BS leter mall admin gave out informing us that WE were on the hook for any damages)
By 2pm my manager & I have dryed up what we can, written off the destroyed product and seen off the repair guy who came in to dry out our back wall and carpeting. of corse, the card shop is a total write-off and are dealing with most of their ceiling tiles having come down, their carpet turning into a 'free' splashpad and 36 feet of wet, rotting cards. And the smell is wafting through the walls into our store, which is dark because we still can't turn on any lights due to a continuous slight trickle still coming from the busted water heater.
We closed down for the day at this point.
The best of all that no other GW store will ever match;
- Academy program release day, where we are giving a target to basically fill-up our first month that weekend. All's going swell and we're well on pace to hit our target. A late summer storm rolls in... Ominous, dark clouds gather over us... Environment Canada issues 'severe thunderstorm' warnings for pretty much every area around us, but luckily (yay right), not us!
Last couple hours of the day, mall's still busy! We hear a thunderclap, then a very loud 'boom'. The alarm system goes off, but it's only the 'first stage' so no one's really worried. A minute later, the GTFO stage sounds and we're forced to close up and get our customers out of the store and head to our evac point.
God threw a lightning bolt at us... Right above our end of the mall, we got hit by lightning which caused the alarms to go off and they couldn't be shut down... Bye-bye to our target.
Thus was the true legacy of GW Burlington!
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Post by: Jon Garrett
Leigen_Zero wrote:Jon Garrett wrote:I was once asked to leave vet's night because I didn't look well and it might stop people coming in to buy things.
That's more likely to be a sarcastic/attempt-to-hide-real-motive-behind-humour way of saying 'Get out! I'm not sure which of Nurgle's many and bountiful plagues infects you currently, but I don't want everyone else to be blessed with the same malady after your visit'.
No horror stories, once got told to steer my conversations more towards the hobby when talking about video games during non-games-night opening hours, but that didn't really bother me...
It was about 18 months ago, so this may not be word perfect, but the conversation was something like this;
I was sitting by a table, something I'd received special permission to do because I have an injured knee and back, and was obviously in pain, due to said knee and back. My pain killers were taking time to kick in and so, since there wasn't a table (there were only two to around a dozen people) I was sitting and watching a couple of my mates having a game when Redshirt approaches.
RS: You ok?
Jon: Yeah, just in a lot of pain today. Don't feel brilliant. Bit of a headache as well.
RS: Well, you should head home then.
Jon: I might well in a bit. I'll just see which of these two wins.
RS: Nah, you should go home now. People aren't going to want to come into the store if you're there, looking sick.
Jon: ...alright.
Bear in mind this was around half six in the evening.
I should possibly mention that this red shirt and I did not get on especially well since, soon after meeting him I asked him if it was true that GW were going to put out FAQs for the Fantasy Armies (this was just after 8th, and I'd read the rumour here). He loudly announced, in front of a store packed for veteran's night that no, there was nothing coming and that I shouldn't listen to the internet - redshirts were always the first to hear about this stuff and the only ones to know, reliably, about it. I figured fair enough. It was literally the next day when the FAQ's were released. He never seemed to like me much after that...
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Post by: Howard A Treesong
n0t_u wrote:Someone started talking to me about lesbians, I was asked to leave (there were kids around) with them despite them being the only one talking and me try to politely distance myself...
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Doesn't it depend on how you were talking about lesbians? If you were being derogatory then why shouldn't you asked to leave? But I'd it was because the staff said 'oh noes, the kids in the shop must be protected from mentions of gay people' then I'd have a problem.
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Post by: Arm.chair.general
What's with all the GW bashing threads? I thinks that there should be a new DakkaDakka rule:
'thou shalt not make a thread to bash Games-workshop '
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Post by: Kanluwen
Howard A Treesong wrote:n0t_u wrote:Someone started talking to me about lesbians, I was asked to leave (there were kids around) with them despite them being the only one talking and me try to politely distance myself...
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Doesn't it depend on how you were talking about lesbians? If you were being derogatory then why shouldn't you asked to leave? But I'd it was because the staff said 'oh noes, the kids in the shop must be protected from mentions of gay people' then I'd have a problem.
Well, you can talk about lesbians in a way that most adults would protest their children hearing about without being derogatory...
I can't really imagine that the conversation was about the plight of the homosexual communities at large.
Experiment 626 wrote:Thus was the true legacy of GW Burlington!
If even a quarter of that actually happened, that is more than most retail employees deal with in their entire career.
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Post by: nels1031
Arm.chair.general wrote:What's with all the GW bashing threads? I thinks that there should be a new DakkaDakka rule:
'thou shalt not make a thread to bash Games-workshop '
Meh, a GW bashing thread every now and again is healthy. I say that as an accused fanboy/white knight. It only gets tiresome when its thread after thread of the same thing (like this thread, one pops up every week or so on the same subject) or people chime in with exaggerated examples of how GW is evil because of it business practices or sales tactics.
Also OPs "horror story" example is completely justified on the GW managers part.
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Post by: General Hobbs
I was working at my GW store ( yes yes, I wear the GW eagle on my chest), when a customer asked me if it was ok to have other company's models in the store. He indicated another customer to me. I looked over, and saw this person working on converting an Iron Lich Asphyxious into what I believe was a Necron Overlord.
I politely asked this customer to leave, as we do not allow other companies products in our store. I have never seen such a sad look.
I felt really bad...I should have just asked to have the model put away.
Automatically Appended Next Post: TheSecretSquig wrote:My GW Horror story......................
One day I walked into the store and ended up with a trip to A&E and huge dentist bill in the afternoon. I picked up a box of 10 Ork Boyz and then noticed the price tag. My jaw hit the floor so fast in shock it knocked most of my teeth out. Quickly I made for the door holding my bloodied Jaw whilst my Wife grabbed all the my teeth from the floor. Unfortunately on the way out I glanced at the price for a tin of spray paint. It was at this point my heart stopped and I fell over in complete and utter shock and disbelief. My Wife quickly called 999 and I eventually regained consciousness in my local A&E hospital.
The hospital referred me to a councillor to help me to understand what had happened. She assured me that Games Workshop Executives suffer from the ‘ GW’ (Greedy Wealth) Condition and leads them to increase their pricing to shocking levels. The shock of seeing the ‘ GW’ Condition caused my incidents.............
I hope you never look at PP or Reapermini prices.....
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Post by: LooT
General Hobbs wrote:
I was working at my GW store ( yes yes, I wear the GW eagle on my chest), when a customer asked me if it was ok to have other company's models in the store. He indicated another customer to me. I looked over, and saw this person working on converting an Iron Lich Asphyxious into what I believe was a Necron Overlord.
I politely asked this customer to leave, as we do not allow other companies products in our store. I have never seen such a sad look.
I felt really bad...I should have just asked to have the model put away.
ITS A GW CONSPIRACY!!!
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Post by: Experiment 626
Kanluwen wrote:
Experiment 626 wrote:Thus was the true legacy of GW Burlington!
If even a quarter of that actually happened, that is more than most retail employees deal with in their entire career.
It's all true. Our area manager hated dealing with us because he honestly thought we were either making crap up or helping these things along...
For example, my manager's conversation with his boss when Eastsides lit the place on fire went along the lines of;
Our Manager: "Hey Ash buddy how's it going?"
Area manager Ash: "What happened now?!"
Our Manager: "Um, our mall's on fire."
Area Manager Ash: " WTF! Are you f'ing kidding me?!!"
Our Manager: "Nah man, check out how stupid our alarms sound" *sticks phone outside the door into the hallway where the alarm is screaming*
Area Manager Ash: "F***, why me? Just why the f*** did I get f'ing stuck with your f'ing cursed store?"
Our store is a legend among those who had to deal with it.
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Post by: Morathi's Darkest Sin
Heh, I think the thread has been worth it just to read about 626s Horror stories. Some eye watering moments there. The joys of retail. 
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Post by: Harriticus
Tripped and fell on a loose piece of carpeting as I walked in. Should have sued them foo's. Then I'd own GW and change a thing or two (business plan: everything is now skaven)
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Post by: Gymnogyps
TheRobotLol wrote:What a bunch of ers. They were fired? YEHZ. what a nice manager.
Thanks. Yep that Regional Manager was amazing, restored my faith in GW.
Pacific wrote:Gymnogyps, that is quite a genuinely awful story. Sadly, you occasionally get social misfits working in GWs, and it's good that they were got rid of.
Thanks, man. I know, I've worked in customer service, and I do get it when it is a bad day, or whatever. Or even people really not being cut out for customer service. In hindsight, I believe it was a combination of snotty Maryland attitude (this is a real thing), checked-out employees, and foolish over-adherence and over-literal application of company corporate doublespeak (passive aggressiveness, perhaps). Maybe it was even a bit of annoyance at web orders not giving the store credit for the sale, because it didn't go through their till, but they have to babysit the stuff. I've tried to understand what happened, but now it is more of a WTF than anything else.
Anyway, end of story, it worked out because a couple years later a store opened up 5 minutes from me. So I didn't even have to break up with that store. All for the best, really.
Pacific wrote:I've regularly used entire squads that are not GW models in a store. My IG army is a mix of Pig Iron heads, heavy-walkers and Copplestone Castings terminators. There is even an Infinity model in there, the key is:
- Paint your models, so it is not immediately obvious.
- Don't draw attention to them - if 'that kid' points them out, refute his claim (I always say the Copplestone Castings models are OOP Necrons for instance)
- Don't be a prat and behave like it is your God-given right to use them. It helps if you know the guy working in the store, but always be conscientious with their use.
- Spend money in the store, if the guy working in there is not a complete jobsworth then usually that gives you some breathing room.
Of course the best answer is to play in a club or FLGS, and to revel in the freedom that they offer you, but if you are smart about it you can play unmolested most of the time. I've been at events in Warhammer World where 'best painted' armies have had non-GW components and even models in them, but so much of it comes down to your behaviour and whether you try and behave like a wise guy.
This x one MILLION. I also would add you can say that you scratch sculpted or massively converted your minis from a GW base, then point out a likely candidate, green stuff, and sculpting tool. If you help the store make sales, you are going to be welcome. That is actually why the hobby areas are provided, after all.
I've wanted so badly to take other minis in to work on, but don't, because I understand it is a shop, where someone has to make sales. Anything that is even a slight distraction from that purpose is inappropriate. So, Pixelsaurus, while I understand it seemed harsh, you did cross a line when you told the potential customer that it was someone else's product. Sometimes diplomacy requires providing the appropriate answer, not the literal answer. The situation you described did require diplomacy, and you non-diplomatically over-shared. I'd say chalk it up to lesson learned, and even consider apologizing to the store manager and say you understand, it won't happen again.
For the detractors calling for censorship of this thread, or mocking with OTT tales, there is value to be had in these discussions, especially if substantive contributions are made. If you can't see it or don't like it, why post here?
On a completely different note, General Hobbs, you didn't happen to work at a GW in Maryland, did you?
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Post by: blood lance
This was about the time I played blood angels (around when I made this account) On another site I published my list, and the response wasnt very good in that it wasnt a good list (I see this now) But not very much in the way of help. I went in to GW to ask for some help with this possible problem in my list.
He says:
"What no your list was fantastic, it was fine! Where did you get this idea that it was bad?"
I then said:
"A forum"
He replies with
"Screw your gay forums, theyre dumb"
I politely ask him not to use gay as a derogetary term, as it can be offensive. He responds with the must stupid comment I had heard in a long time:
"So what I chose to use it as a derogitary term, so its fine"
I decided to just never enter a conversation with him for more than ten seconds.
Man what a socially inept fool.
Some people may view his actions as fair. I generally dislike the term gay being used as offense. Guess why. (No not because I am homosexual)
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Post by: Rimmy
you know its funny, I spent 9 months as a red shirt here locally and we had some good times in the store. very rarely did I ever ask anyone to leave or treat them poorly. or my co workers.
that being said.... I now refuse to walk into another store.
I pop my head in from time to time and I get the usual jargan greeting "welcome have you ever played can we help you" blah blah blah, all to be expected and very good.
this last time, I went in and said yea i'm just looking to see whats new. used to work here when it was down the way (store moved a few units down in the mall). haven't been in for a while and wanted to see what was new.
Apoc had just been released and I knew NOTHING about it as I had been out of the game (no pun intended) for a little while.
"oh you were a red shirt? why'd you leave?' just went back to work full time. worked here to make a few extra bucks when I was on disability, helped the family out a LOT.
"oh, so you're a deserter then huh." well no not really, I still enjoy the game.
"I've never seen you before, and I've been coming here for years before I worked here. so you must be lying. I don't like liars in my store."
I smiled, and walked out. called the regional manager. (who hired me)
then about a year ago I popped in again, same gig, different staff. this time I was observing my first game watching people play 5th ed. as I don't have much experience with it, I just watched the game and observed.
after about 20 minutes the guy says "so uh, if you're not going to play or buy anything you need to leave."
oh really? lets just see how well that works out. as a matter of fact I DO play, and i'm observing this game. i'll leave when I am good and ready, or i've violated the stores policy (of which I am QUITE knowledgeable)
I stayed, watched the game, guy told me never to come back. I sa and waited for his manager. pulled him aside, had a chat. I got an apology from the red shirt.
needless to say, DO speak up, it does help.
honestly though, I don't other playing in the malls anymore.
hey! heres a free horror story from the OTHER side of the shirt:
biggest pet peeve of ours was parents dropping off their pre-teens in the store all day and picking them up 8 hours later. GW is not a damn babysitting service for your geeky children. period. and when your kids leave the store and they pick up a bad habit or some word you don't like (had this happen) don't come to me telling me you don't like the values we're instilling in your children... they're YOUR children......
people, 2 things.....
#1 Hygiene. seriously. bathe, use soap, brush teeth, wash hair, DAILY.
#2 personal space. I play a game, we aren't brothers. don't touch me. especially if you don't follow the first part of this.
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Post by: Experiment 626
Rimmy wrote:
hey! heres a free horror story from the OTHER side of the shirt:
biggest pet peeve of ours was parents dropping off their pre-teens in the store all day and picking them up 8 hours later. GW is not a damn babysitting service for your geeky children. period. and when your kids leave the store and they pick up a bad habit or some word you don't like (had this happen) don't come to me telling me you don't like the values we're instilling in your children... they're YOUR children......
That has to be the single worst thing about being in a mall!
We got to the point we simply called security as soon as the parent walked off, pretty much abandoning their 5-9 year-old in our store. We were pretty tight with all the guys working secruity at our mall, so we'd just tell them we'd had another 'accidental-token-child' left loose in our store. They'd come by, pick the kid up and PA the parent over the mall system asking them collect their child which was found wandering alone.
We even thought of putting a little pen in front of store with a sign along the lines of "insert your neglected little brat for pick-up by random stranger here", but HQ wouldn't let us. Gave them a laugh though at the thought!
Rimmy wrote:people, 2 things.....
#1 Hygiene. seriously. bathe, use soap, brush teeth, wash hair, DAILY.
#2 personal space. I play a game, we aren't brothers. don't touch me. especially if you don't follow the first part of this.
#3 The type of unwanted regular 'customer' we termed 'Grossies'. I know you think you're funny and all, but please don't bring your crystal dildo into a store with young children.
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Post by: Gymnogyps
Rimmy and Experiment 626, thank you for your "other side of the counter" stories. Experiment 626 your tales of the cursed store were full of lulz. 
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Post by: Rimmy
Experiment 626 wrote:Rimmy wrote:
hey! heres a free horror story from the OTHER side of the shirt:
biggest pet peeve of ours was parents dropping off their pre-teens in the store all day and picking them up 8 hours later. GW is not a damn babysitting service for your geeky children. period. and when your kids leave the store and they pick up a bad habit or some word you don't like (had this happen) don't come to me telling me you don't like the values we're instilling in your children... they're YOUR children......
That has to be the single worst thing about being in a mall!
We got to the point we simply called security as soon as the parent walked off, pretty much abandoning their 5-9 year-old in our store. We were pretty tight with all the guys working secruity at our mall, so we'd just tell them we'd had another 'accidental-token-child' left loose in our store. They'd come by, pick the kid up and PA the parent over the mall system asking them collect their child which was found wandering alone.
We even thought of putting a little pen in front of store with a sign along the lines of "insert your neglected little brat for pick-up by random stranger here", but HQ wouldn't let us. Gave them a laugh though at the thought!
Rimmy wrote:people, 2 things.....
#1 Hygiene. seriously. bathe, use soap, brush teeth, wash hair, DAILY.
#2 personal space. I play a game, we aren't brothers. don't touch me. especially if you don't follow the first part of this.
#3 The type of unwanted regular 'customer' we termed 'Grossies'. I know you think you're funny and all, but please don't bring your crystal dildo into a store with young children.
hardest part about it was my Manager allowed it, only because he told the parents that they had to buy something in order to leave them there. so they chalked it up to cheap service and we had higher than average sales for it. still sucked.
ah yes the "grossies". agree'd, a non public item was not tolerated, but I also detested the "followers of Gnurg' le" you know, the ones who would pop zits or ooze things on things and just honestly not care about it. totally disgusting. I asked a dude to leave after I WATCHED him pick his nose and wipe it on his shirt they try to continue a game. no dude, you're not spreading your disease with the rest of the world. I still have to work here.
one thing we used to do for fun though, (because it was fun and grabbed peoples attention) is we'd do a WAAAAAAGH!! check every couple hours on the weekends or if the store was slow and it was some regulars. you know, just have everyone let out the biggest loudest WAAAAAAGH!! you can muster up. pissed off the mall management, made me fell SO much better.
never underestimate the power of the WAAAAGH!!
Automatically Appended Next Post: Gymnogyps wrote:Rimmy and Experiment 626, thank you for your "other side of the counter" stories. Experiment 626 your tales of the cursed store were full of lulz.
bro I got tons of em. honestly one of the funnest jobs I've had in a while. the BS that was included in retail was all there, but my co-workers (who I still talk to) made the whole experience for me. they were (are) awesome.
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Post by: Laughing Man
Experiment 626 wrote:Rimmy wrote:
hey! heres a free horror story from the OTHER side of the shirt:
biggest pet peeve of ours was parents dropping off their pre-teens in the store all day and picking them up 8 hours later. GW is not a damn babysitting service for your geeky children. period. and when your kids leave the store and they pick up a bad habit or some word you don't like (had this happen) don't come to me telling me you don't like the values we're instilling in your children... they're YOUR children......
That has to be the single worst thing about being in a mall!
We got to the point we simply called security as soon as the parent walked off, pretty much abandoning their 5-9 year-old in our store. We were pretty tight with all the guys working secruity at our mall, so we'd just tell them we'd had another 'accidental-token-child' left loose in our store. They'd come by, pick the kid up and PA the parent over the mall system asking them collect their child which was found wandering alone.
We even thought of putting a little pen in front of store with a sign along the lines of "insert your neglected little brat for pick-up by random stranger here", but HQ wouldn't let us. Gave them a laugh though at the thought!
We had a "Unattended children will be given a double shot of espresso and a puppy" sign for exactly that purpose. Got out of the mall this year, so thankfully that's usually not a problem anymore. We did have a guy drop a couple boys off one morning (likely under the impression that we sold video games), and I'm fairly convinced he then left to go visit his bit on the side. Had to kick them out of the store twice before he got back.
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Post by: Howard A Treesong
The ultimate horror story is that guy who had a frustrated kid try to eat one of his figures. That is legend.
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Post by: Grimtuff
Howard A Treesong wrote:The ultimate horror story is that guy who had a frustrated kid try to eat one of his figures. That is legend.
Is that the one about the "unbeaten" TS player who clipped off his opponent's Librarian's Force Weapon and ate it, cackling "He can't use it now can he?"?
I'm sure the full story of that is around here somewhere if it's not that one.
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Post by: CT GAMER
Howard A Treesong wrote:The ultimate horror story is that guy who had a frustrated kid try to eat one of his figures. That is legend.
While that is horrble, finding a six foot dislay case that had been filled with scores of models worth many hundreds of dollars (including two complete armies) violently tipped over by vandals leaving a pile of bent, chipped and broken bits was the worst I have experienced...
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Post by: -Loki-
Waaaay back in I think... 1994? My brother and I had our stuff from the 2nd edition box and went to one of the first GW's to open in Sydney. His Space Marines painted quite nicely as well. We walked into the store and asked if we could play a game on their table, and they said fine. We started deploying our stuff - manager asks us to stop.
Puzzled, we asked why. My brothers Marines had the base trims painted black. The top was in the awful GW goblin green + sunburst yellow drybrush over sand they were doing back then, but the trims were repainted black. He thought they looked neater.
The manager told us we had to use completely green bases in his store. We couldn't even, say, paint them brown as desert bases. The store only allowed bases that looked like what Eavy Metal was producing at the time. As a result, he wouldn't let us use our stuff from the 2nd edition box on a table in that GW store.
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Post by: Che-Vito
n0t_u wrote:Someone started talking to me about lesbians, I was asked to leave[i] (there were kids around) [/i]with them despite them being the only one talking and me try to politely distance myself...
You know, you'd likely never be asked to leave a store for talking about heterosexual people.
If there are kids around, they can deal.
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Post by: TheBrandedOne
I live in Central MA, and back in the day, the closest store was 45 mins. away from me, in Manchester, CT. The Buckland Hills Mall location.
Now I had a good relationship with the old manager there, he even put my Ghoritch on display for a while. Me and my friends used to save our money and go once a month and buy a bunch of stuff. It was great.
Then they switched managers.
This was back when you could order individual bits (ah the good ol' days.). I used to order a LOT of bitz when the old manager worked there, and never had a hitch. This time I put in an order for some parts from a High Elf dragon, as I was obsessed with the Hell Pit only army from an old White Dwarf issue and was always making bizarre Rat Ogre conversions, Throtlings, and whatnot. I wanted the arms, the tail, and the wings from the Dragon. I also had put in for a few Inquisitorial Henchmen models, and a couple other things I don't remember. But it was a decent amount of bitz, as usual. I filled out the order and gave it to the new manager, who was very polite and friendly. He told me to come back in a couple weeks, and he'd have my order for me. If anyone remembers these forms, they have all your information on them - phone number, etc. So they can get in touch with you.
I came back a month later (as was tradition) and the guy seemed surprised to see me. He apologized and said that he had gotten caught up and didn't put my order in, but if I came back in a couple more weeks he'd have it for me. Mind you this was a 45 minute drive one way. But I wasn't upset, stuff happens.
I waited three weeks, and went back again. This time he was visibly annoyed with me, as if he thought I'd just forget about it. He didn't apologize this time, he just sighed and said it had been sent to the wrong store for some reason, and he said he was going to call that store and have it shipped to him. He told me to come back in another week or so. I was annoyed at this point, but I've worked retail and I'm patient to a fault, so I bit my tongue and left.
Again I waited three weeks, still no phone call, nothing. So I went back, and this time the guy was straight up rude to me. Gave me some excuse that he hadn't gotten to call yet, didn't have my bitz form, nothing. I'm watching my language here but the rudeness of the guy was absolutely unbelievable. As if I was inconveniencing him by trying to order bitz. Mind you it had been over two months since I placed my order. I couldn't remember every little piece I wanted, and he had apparently lost my form. This is almost verbatim how the conversation went:
"Well what did you want?"
"Uh... I know I had some High Elf Dragon parts..."
He then walked over to the shelf, took off a High Elf Dragon, and literally threw it on the counter in front of the guy who was cashing me out. "Open it. Give him whatever pieces he wants." Then he walked away.
The cashier was as surprised as me. He opened the box. Asked me what I wanted. I told him I remembered ordering the tail, wings, and arms, but if I could have anything I wanted I'd take the head of the dragon too. He says okay and starts ringing me out. The manager comes back and sees me holding the sprues.
"Whoa whoa whoa!" he literally YELLS at me. "You can't have the whole damn thing! I didn't say you could have the whole damn dragon!"
"Dude." I replied, "You said I could take the pieces I wanted. I'm going to pay for them."
"No." he says. "You only wanted a few pieces. You can't have the whole kit."
"I'll buy it, I'm going to pay for it!"
The guy stares at me, furious for no reason. "Sell him the whole dragon. ONLY the dragon. Nothing else. Put the employee discount on it." then he looks at me again. "Cash only." Audibly and loudly sighed and left the store.
I went back a month later and the store was closed. I like to think it was all that guy's fault. I understand when you work somewhere it stops being fun and becomes a job - take it from someone who worked at Gamestop and after a while, hated every video game on the planet - but any time I go into a GW store the people seem just kind of indifferent and rude. Not passionate about the hobby, not personable, not friendly, nothing. I now make it a rule only to go to Independent Retailers.
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Post by: hotsauceman1
This thread makes me happy im the guiy behind the counter who flips burgers and cooks buns and doesnt have to deal with customers.
Also make me happy i have an FLGS who knew me by name for awhile(know they just know me by face)
But god some of these are hiliarious and just furious.
I can understand not wanting someone to work on a model you dont own.
like going in a McDonald with a burger king.
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Post by: Experiment 626
Rimmy wrote:
ah yes the "grossies". agree'd, a non public item was not tolerated, but I also detested the "followers of Gnurg'le" you know, the ones who would pop zits or ooze things on things and just honestly not care about it. totally disgusting. I asked a dude to leave after I WATCHED him pick his nose and wipe it on his shirt they try to continue a game. no dude, you're not spreading your disease with the rest of the world. I still have to work here.
Eewie! Yep, the local indie store is still full of those unwashed, slimy kids you could squeeze enough grease out of to fill the Wendy's deep fryers.
Parents overall are morons these days... I've politely asked parents to take their child out of the store when they've admited to things like Little Timmy being sick (ie: still very contagious) with crap like chicken pox, flu, strep throat or really bad colds. Sorry, I can refuse you service when you're trying to infect me with god knows what crap!
Funniest was the second manager I had who asked a parent to leave with their child who had pink eye (and was still highly contagious) after the kid had been playing with the demo table models AND constantly rubbing his eyes! Then my manager moved the models back into place instead of burning them... Guess what happened to him?!
Grossest thing that happened in our store; A dad brings his 4 year old into the store to look at the 'pretty toys', sitting him on his shoulders to keep him away from the models. Feels the kid wiggling about side to side, puts him on the carpeted floor just in time for the kid to dump his load of runny, wet poo all over the carpet. Dad laughs a bit trying (badly) to make light of the situation, won't even offer an up apology or offer to help clean up and then leaves with his kid.
We had to close for the rest of the day because of the awful smell and to get a professional carpet cleaning crew in to remove the nasty bio-hazard.
Luckily for me I was off at tournament that weekend so I only heard about when I got back on Monday afternoon!
Rimmy wrote:one thing we used to do for fun though, (because it was fun and grabbed peoples attention) is we'd do a WAAAAAAGH!! check every couple hours on the weekends or if the store was slow and it was some regulars. you know, just have everyone let out the biggest loudest WAAAAAAGH!! you can muster up. pissed off the mall management, made me fell SO much better.
never underestimate the power of the WAAAAGH!!
During our Black Reach release event, I found the store to be far too quiet when I arrived about 2 hours into the festivities with the cake. Under threat of me eating the cake in front of everyone else, it inspired a WAAAAAAAGH! that was clearly heard at the other end of our mall... a 1/3rd of a kilometer away! Over a dozen simultanious noise complaints nearly exploded mall security's phones! 
Then we did that 3 more times afterwards too! Mall admin called the head of Canadian retail to complain about us, our boss called and congratulated us for being too loud for a bunch of trumped-up fashionistas.
Rimmy wrote:Automatically Appended Next Post:
Gymnogyps wrote:Rimmy and Experiment 626, thank you for your "other side of the counter" stories. Experiment 626 your tales of the cursed store were full of lulz.
bro I got tons of em. honestly one of the funnest jobs I've had in a while. the BS that was included in retail was all there, but my co-workers (who I still talk to) made the whole experience for me. they were (are) awesome.
You're welcome Gymogyps!
Rimmy - we should have an ex-staff competition perhaps? Who's store was more full of epic-win or epic-fail!
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Post by: Murdock129
I had an unpleasant incident where I was thrown out of the store because I pulled out some of the old big hat chaos dwarfs, and the red shirt who didn't know anything about warhammer fantasy refused to believe they were Games Workshop figures, thinking I was using other company miniatures, even though two other players there backed me up in saying that they were GW figures
He was one of those RSs who don't know about anything except Space Marines, and even then know not much about them but seem to believe they know more than anyone cos their a RS
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Post by: Vasarto
One time when I went to a GW store. The store manager was working on some toy soldiers. I also wanted to play with some toy soldiers and he even helped me out with some
painting tips and stuff. He seemed really nice at first but than right in front of people. He started to touch me. In places. Even when I asked to be gentle or go easy they never listen.
I never felt so horrified and no one said a thing or helped me because he told them he would hurt them if they did say anything and than he did horrible things to me when I came there to play with my toy soldiers.
Ah yes, That guy loved to shake hands and touch people from the shoulders upward and do horrible things to people when they played 40k games! ALL the horrible things he would do to people and no one ever said a thing or tried to stop him from going easy on us or be gentle when using his army to smash ours heads in!
what?
What were you thinking I meant? Perverts!
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Post by: -Loki-
Experiment 626 wrote:During our Black Reach release event, I found the store to be far too quiet when I arrived about 2 hours into the festivities with the cake. Under threat of me eating the cake in front of everyone else, it inspired a WAAAAAAAGH! that was clearly heard at the other end of our mall... a 1/3rd of a kilometer away! Over a dozen simultanious noise complaints nearly exploded mall security's phones!
Then we did that 3 more times afterwards too! Mall admin called the head of Canadian retail to complain about us, our boss called and congratulated us for being too loud for a bunch of trumped-up fashionistas.
My old GW (the same one that denied my brother the chance to play because his models had black base trims) used to decide first turn on games night by doing a Waagh test. Coupled with extremely loud heavy metal, they'd get security come down to complain about noise about every half an hour.
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Post by: KGatch113
On a completely different note, General Hobbs, you didn't happen to work at a GW in Maryland, did you?
Heh Hobbs did not work at a GW store, but I did. I was banned from posting online because people dug up a couple old threads of mine pre- GW and some tournament organizer who was friends with the CEO got upset about an old opinion of mine about him. As a result, Hobbs sometimes told my stories as his, or he would spread rumors that I accidentally let slip.
As a GW retail employee, I had a fantastic time. I had a great sales record, and was in line to get my own store when I left the company, before coming back at a sales job with corporate. My worst horror story? We had a female customer who would kill the bathroom every day. This made the female employees have to walk across the street to the other building. We also had someone who use the trashcan instead of the toilet. We'd play rock paper scissors to determine who had to clean up.
Oh! There was actually a customer who complained on here that I asked him if he played our games after greeting him. He was standing behind a table holding a case that I could not see, and his comments were pretty much " a dumb redshirt asked me if I played while I was standing there holding a case." <shrugs>
I just shake my head when I encounter douchebaggery at a store. It goes against what we were trained in terms of customer service.
Oh and yeah, I worked in Maryland.
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Post by: Frazzled
Che-Vito wrote:n0t_u wrote:Someone started talking to me about lesbians, I was asked to leave[i] (there were kids around) [/i]with them despite them being the only one talking and me try to politely distance myself...
You know, you'd likely never be asked to leave a store for talking about heterosexual people.
If there are kids around, they can deal.
Or you can deal. You have no right to anything, except death and taxes. Automatically Appended Next Post: -Loki- wrote:Experiment 626 wrote:During our Black Reach release event, I found the store to be far too quiet when I arrived about 2 hours into the festivities with the cake. Under threat of me eating the cake in front of everyone else, it inspired a WAAAAAAAGH! that was clearly heard at the other end of our mall... a 1/3rd of a kilometer away! Over a dozen simultanious noise complaints nearly exploded mall security's phones!
Then we did that 3 more times afterwards too! Mall admin called the head of Canadian retail to complain about us, our boss called and congratulated us for being too loud for a bunch of trumped-up fashionistas.
My old GW (the same one that denied my brother the chance to play because his models had black base trims) used to decide first turn on games night by doing a Waagh test. Coupled with extremely loud heavy metal, they'd get security come down to complain about noise about every half an hour.
That...sounds like hell actually.
We had a GW in Houston that would play Wagner and specifically Ride of the Valkyrie for us when a player brought his Elysian Epic players. now that was excellent.
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Post by: Rimmy
Experiment 626 wrote:Rimmy - we should have an ex-staff competition perhaps? Who's store was more full of epic-win or epic-fail!
why make it a contest? I started a thread a while back in the OT section. no one really chimed in.
I'm proud of my time as a red shirt. I had a LOT of fun!
happy to say we had more fun than not!
so my life changing moment (literally, it HAS changed my life) is as follows:
I got to be pretty good at pumping out terrain and making tables. and I REALLY enjoy it. its one of my favorite parts of this hobby actually.
One week I was given the task of making a grand table for a tournament (note: this was near the end of my employment so I was unable to complete the finish work on the table, but payed out the most of it.)
This table was epic. it was a swap land at the base of a mountain. 6' x 4' regulation size, mountains on the 4' side. I built into the mountains some cracks and openeings, because you could remove the top portion, and I had inserted some aluminum trays to fill with dry ice and literally watch the "mist" roll out from the cracks in the mountain onto the battlefield. it was epic.
the valley had small swamp pits in it to be filled with dead bits and was going to be lit up.
so I have the table turned upside down and I am installing LED's through the whole thing. so being an electronics guy, I designed the whole circuit, went to radio shack and spent about $150 in parts.
a 12 year old kid, comes in, sees me working, and says "what are you doing?" oh i'm installing lights in the bottom of the table to make it light up. "why didn't you just use christmas tree lights?"
...
...
...
damnit!!!!
the ENTIRE store erupted in laughter.
to this VERY day, when I over engineer something, I step back, say Xmas lights, and get back in the game. I am literally getting a tattoo of a xmas tree light on my arm to remind me of that moment.
I left before I could finish the table, but my co-workers knew the vision, finished up the final touches and they had their tournament. they said they skipped the lights because they didn't feel it needed it, but they made sure the Dry ice was on hand when it came time to play. it looked amazing. kind of hard to play because it blocked the sight of the models and you had to blow the mist to see whats going in, but DAMN was it cool.
I intend to make more Dry Ice pieces of terrain.
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Post by: Kairos
A lot of you folks are a lot nicer and understanding than I would be.
I would throw a fit if I was treated this way by staff at a gamestore. I don't put up with that Please don't try and work around the swear filter, it's there for a reason. Thanks. reds8n I don't think they would try it with me in the first place though.
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Post by: Rimmy
Kairos wrote:A lot of you folks are a lot nicer and understanding than I would be.
I would throw a fit if I was treated this way by staff at a gamestore. I don't put up with that Please don't try and work around the swear filter, it's there for a reason. Thanks. reds8n I don't think they would try it with me in the first place though.
got us a ][B /A\ ][D /A\ 'S, 'S, right here.
look, i'm 6'6" and when I was there 260 lbs, my buddy Mike (also a red shirt) is a former marine 6'5" 240 lbs, and we got people trying stuff all day long. trust me, it happens all the time.
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Post by: Kairos
Rimmy wrote:Kairos wrote:A lot of you folks are a lot nicer and understanding than I would be.
I would throw a fit if I was treated this way by staff at a gamestore. I don't put up with that Please don't try and work around the swear filter, it's there for a reason. Thanks. reds8n I don't think they would try it with me in the first place though.
got us a ][B /A\ ][D /A\ 'S, 'S, right here.
look, i'm 6'6" and when I was there 260 lbs, my buddy Mike (also a red shirt) is a former marine 6'5" 240 lbs, and we got people trying stuff all day long. trust me, it happens all the time.
Not sure where you are going with this. If you are talking about physically intimidating customers; that one won't work either. I routinely choke out 300lb guys (I have been training in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu for
over 15 years). I would actually enjoy getting a tough guy routine from a red shirt.
In addition, I wouldn't hesitate to escalate disrespectful treatment to upper management. From what I hear, Red Shirts loose their jobs really easily. Having a pissed off customer report abuse behavior
to the district manager, could very well result in termination, or at the least a poor performance review.
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Post by: Rimmy
My point was stature, demeanor, race, sex, color nada. people start crazy stuff like you wouldn't believe.
(the above was my piss poor attempt at internet humor)
trust me, i'm not a fighter. i'm huge and all, but i'm not a fighter. hell I was in the AF! if stuff goes down, call the marines LOL
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Post by: Samus_aran115
CT GAMER wrote:Howard A Treesong wrote:The ultimate horror story is that guy who had a frustrated kid try to eat one of his figures. That is legend.
While that is horrble, finding a six foot dislay case that had been filled with scores of models worth many hundreds of dollars (including two complete armies) violently tipped over by vandals leaving a pile of bent, chipped and broken bits was the worst I have experienced...
What type of vandals would do such a thing? Surely they would have to be inside the hobby to even find such a display case.
That made me cry in the inside
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Post by: Catyrpelius
Kairos wrote:Rimmy wrote:Kairos wrote:A lot of you folks are a lot nicer and understanding than I would be.
I would throw a fit if I was treated this way by staff at a gamestore. I don't put up with that Please don't try and work around the swear filter, it's there for a reason. Thanks. reds8n I don't think they would try it with me in the first place though.
got us a ][B /A\ ][D /A\ 'S, 'S, right here.
look, i'm 6'6" and when I was there 260 lbs, my buddy Mike (also a red shirt) is a former marine 6'5" 240 lbs, and we got people trying stuff all day long. trust me, it happens all the time.
Not sure where you are going with this. If you are talking about physically intimidating customers; that one won't work either. I routinely choke out 300lb guys (I have been training in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu for
over 15 years). I would actually enjoy getting a tough guy routine from a red shirt.
In addition, I wouldn't hesitate to escalate disrespectful treatment to upper management. From what I hear, Red Shirts loose their jobs really easily. Having a pissed off customer report abuse behavior
to the district manager, could very well result in termination, or at the least a poor performance review.
Regardless of the reason given if your asked to leave a store your asked to leave a store. You have no right to be able to enter or spend time in a privetly run establishment, a local game store is not a public park...
If it was me and I asked you to leave for whatever reason and you refused and started throwing a fit your getting the cops called on you.
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Post by: Frazzled
Kairos wrote:Rimmy wrote:Kairos wrote:A lot of you folks are a lot nicer and understanding than I would be.
I would throw a fit if I was treated this way by staff at a gamestore. I don't put up with that Please don't try and work around the swear filter, it's there for a reason. Thanks. reds8n I don't think they would try it with me in the first place though.
got us a ][B /A\ ][D /A\ 'S, 'S, right here. look, i'm 6'6" and when I was there 260 lbs, my buddy Mike (also a red shirt) is a former marine 6'5" 240 lbs, and we got people trying stuff all day long. trust me, it happens all the time.
Not sure where you are going with this. If you are talking about physically intimidating customers; that one won't work either. I routinely choke out 300lb guys (I have been training in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu for over 15 years). I would actually enjoy getting a tough guy routine from a red shirt. In addition, I wouldn't hesitate to escalate disrespectful treatment to upper management. From what I hear, Red Shirts loose their jobs really easily. Having a pissed off customer report abuse behavior to the district manager, could very well result in termination, or at the least a poor performance review.
So what is your point exactly? That because your roid raging the store employees will kowtow to you or you'll break their necks, or that little johnny the nurgling is not going to see if muscles equals disease immunity? Where are you going with this? (besides internet tough guy) EDIT: for the record I can only think of one slightly off experience from an actual GW employee, and that was purely because his innate gaming geek exuberance was overwhelming him. I've never had a bad experience with a GW employee that I can remember, and I have a long memory for personal slights. I have had poor times at GW stores for some of the other reasons cited (ratlings running about, parents who looked at me strangely for playing in a "toy store," people wanting to touch my minis the usual) I like the horror stories from the actual GW employees. More!
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Post by: Rimmy
Frazzled wrote:Kairos wrote:Rimmy wrote:Kairos wrote:A lot of you folks are a lot nicer and understanding than I would be.
I would throw a fit if I was treated this way by staff at a gamestore. I don't put up with that Please don't try and work around the swear filter, it's there for a reason. Thanks. reds8n I don't think they would try it with me in the first place though.
got us a ][B /A\ ][D /A\ 'S, 'S, right here.
look, i'm 6'6" and when I was there 260 lbs, my buddy Mike (also a red shirt) is a former marine 6'5" 240 lbs, and we got people trying stuff all day long. trust me, it happens all the time.
Not sure where you are going with this. If you are talking about physically intimidating customers; that one won't work either. I routinely choke out 300lb guys (I have been training in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu for
over 15 years). I would actually enjoy getting a tough guy routine from a red shirt.
In addition, I wouldn't hesitate to escalate disrespectful treatment to upper management. From what I hear, Red Shirts loose their jobs really easily. Having a pissed off customer report abuse behavior
to the district manager, could very well result in termination, or at the least a poor performance review.
So what is your point exactly? That because your roid raging the store employees will kowtow to you or you'll break their necks, or that little johnny the nurgling is not going to see if muscles equals disease immunity? Where are you going with this? (besides internet tough guy)
sadly, his point isn't far from what actually happens. dudes think they're bad over small plastic models. it gets crazy!
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Post by: Frazzled
sadly, his point isn't far from what actually happens. dudes think they're bad over small plastic models. it gets crazy
I have heard of this. I have told several people - usually spawnlings to go away to good effect, but not seen anything more than that. It helps when you use THE DAD VOICE.
I've heard one comrade get threatened by someone at a Hardboyz tournament.
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Post by: Rimmy
Frazzled wrote:sadly, his point isn't far from what actually happens. dudes think they're bad over small plastic models. it gets crazy
I have heard of this. I have told several people - usually spawnlings to go away to good effect, but not seen anything more than that. It helps when you use THE DAD VOICE.
I've heard one comrade get threatened by someone at a Hardboyz tournament.
that dad voice isn't something we're allowed to do. then parents come back and get in your face etc etc. its kind of a nightmare for employees.
We caught a kid stealing once. made him sit in the paint station with a red shirt behind him until security got there. they made him stay there under guard until the kids dad came to get him. and of all things, the Dad demanded proof he did it. we didn't have cameras i the store so we couldn't turnin anything, and the dude blew up in my managers face (who was a former captain in the Army) and just threw all kinds of accusations at us!
people are crazy.
you get the random acts of strangeness too. after closing we had some chicks think it was funny to press they nekkid boobies on the window at us. wasn't funny. it was totally delightful and made my month, but certainly not funny
OMG the cougars that go into the stores though. seriously, if I could count the number of times moms would hit on us for entertaining them and their kids! CRAZY!!!
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Post by: curran12
I was very glad when my GW moved out of a mall store into a new strip style building with its own door and everything. Back in the mall, we were constantly shooing off children who'd scarper off with the demo models.
That said, even in the new store people have tried some wild things. I was working on an army list when I see an older gentleman walk in and start browsing the BL books, and I think it was a new IA book. He picks up a few and moves to the counter. The employee was in the back doing something, and this geezer just starts to pick up his stuff and walk out until I ask him if he needs help and I could get the employee to ring him up. Dude was gone, leaving a pile of books behind.
My general horror stories of GW, like a few others here, aren't so much from the employees,but from the customers. There used to be a whole unit of TFGs at the store I played at, and back then I was so impatient for games I'd put up with them. But one Fantasy game, I finally snapped. After having every single move being double-checked by his tape and being called on for every rule (like Vanguard, basic stuff) on my turn, and then him racing through his turn and not letting me check his rules, I just packed up and left.
The guy was the worst kind of TFG too. He still comes every now and then, but he usually has his son, who is old enough to play (I think he's 14/15ish) and is actually pretty cool. But the dad will regularly challenge his own son to a game, and TFG-stomp him. It's real upsetting.
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Post by: Frazzled
Beware the Cougar, for no good can come from those fiendish claws.
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Post by: kronk
Frazzled wrote:Beware the Cougar, for no good can come from those fiendish claws.
I respectfully disagree. 
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Post by: Frazzled
kronk wrote:Frazzled wrote:Beware the Cougar, for no good can come from those fiendish claws.
I respectfully disagree.
In a GW, I'm gonna disagree right back.
1. High chance are married. Das ist nicht gut!
2. If not married, definitely has at least one demon spawnling. Being the evil step dad is not for the faint of heart.
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Post by: captain collius
I know i'm going to sound like a fanboy.
My local store is small and because a lot of the people who come in don't have a ton of extra money (read: kids) but the manager of our store/only employee is awesome hes understanding works well with the kids and is as knowledgable as can be.
I know he is one of the good ones and we are lucky to have him. A lesser man could easily be frustrated.
oh and my only gamesworkshop horror story is the fact that the only way to get cyclone missle launchers is to buy regular terminators when i wan t assault terminators.
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Post by: Frazzled
Buy your reg terminators and scratch build missile launchers. Use magnets as needed.
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Post by: Philld77
Yeah where is this Cougar Town I hear spoken of, it sounds grrreat 
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Post by: Experiment 626
Rimmy wrote:
you get the random acts of strangeness too. after closing we had some chicks think it was funny to press they nekkid boobies on the window at us. wasn't funny. it was totally delightful and made my month, but certainly not funny
OMG the cougars that go into the stores though. seriously, if I could count the number of times moms would hit on us for entertaining them and their kids! CRAZY!!!
We got accussed of keeping our front windows way too clean. At least twice a week we'd have people walking by and then stop to look at the models in the display cases - they'd lean in too close and we'd hear a resounding 'bang' of their head smacking the glass
One time, towards closing, there was this kid running about outside our store in the mall, for no reason runs upto our window and slams his head into the glass. Then puts his head down, and charges the glass again. His mum comes in and askes the two of us on shift why we're letting her moronic little gakker try to kill himself?!
But seriously, it's so true about mothers hitting on the other male staffers! At one point our store's staff was myself and two french Canadians. The guys got alot of attention from some of the mothers!
I remember my manager telling me the disastrous Games Day after-party for the staff after the last Toronto GD; They were having the party at a local college, all the french guys were outside so a couple guys could smoke, beers in hand.
All of a sudden a bunch of limos and a pair of school buses pull up - a fething high school prom just happens to be using another part of the campus for their shindig.  So over-tired french guys + older teens... Too bad I got left in charge of the store because I was the responsible 'monkey'
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Post by: Rimmy
my fav was I did a demo game for this kid, maybe 8 or 9. any RS knows demo games the rules are irrelevant, its just to show the premise of the game not the try and teach it to anyone in 2 mins or less.
so I used to apply VERY basic rules to it, and I was REALLY amped on this day, just in a REALLY good mood. so I had arms flailing and explosion noises and pew pew noises and full long names and titles (this was the BFM starter set days so nids and Ultramarines)
this kid was REALLY into it. having a ball. (now having children of my own, I REALLY am glad I made that kid smile, my oldest was 6 months old at the time, she is now 6)
when we were done i'm sweating, the kids got a grin from ear to ear, I looked up and said, SO.... Did you enjoy the game?" kids smiling saying yes, looks at mom, mom looks at me and says he certainly did! "Good! can I interest you in viewing our starter set and maybe brining this excitement home?"
without missing a BEAT his mom looks at me and says "only if you come with it. I haven't seen that much energey in my house since before he was born."
I have never turned so red, IN my life. heat was just eminating off of my face.
I sold them a great starter package, got a big kudos from my manager, and as she's walking out she says, "so you'll be here to play with me when we come back right?.... the game too?"
By the Emporer's hand that actually happenned.
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Post by: Laughing Man
You know, now I'm rather sad that the LGS I work at doesn't grab 'em young like GW does...
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Post by: captain collius
Frazzled wrote:Buy your reg terminators and scratch build missile launchers. Use magnets as needed.
my point kinda got lost. if thats all there is to complain about we got it pretty good.
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Post by: Howard A Treesong
Rimmy wrote:
I sold them a great starter package, got a big kudos from my manager, and as she's walking out she says, "so you'll be here to play with me when we come back right?.... the game too?"
By the Emporer's hand that actually happenned.
You scored!
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Post by: Lt. Coldfire
Grimtuff wrote:Howard A Treesong wrote:The ultimate horror story is that guy who had a frustrated kid try to eat one of his figures. That is legend.
Is that the one about the "unbeaten" TS player who clipped off his opponent's Librarian's Force Weapon and ate it, cackling "He can't use it now can he?"?
I'm sure the full story of that is around here somewhere if it's not that one.
Fear not lads, for I had made sure to subscribe to that thread for when the story was brought up again! I was cracking up here at work reading it over again.
Here it is:
Little lord Fauntleroy wrote:Worst happened earlier. I was playing against a chaos marine guyin a 1500pt game-he was new to chaos, so I thought "What the hey-should be fun, and as a chaos player myself I might be able to give him some help". However, I decided to use my Howling Griffons, and my newly converted plastic Epistolary Librarian, so it doesn't just turn into Thousand sons ap 3 slaughterhouse.
From the moment the game started I knew it would end badly-the exact nature, of it though I couldn't have forseen. He had the most annoying voice, and constantly bragged about how his Lord with a demon weapon, Sorceror with bolt of change and 10 heavily upgraded Terminator champions (Yes, I laughed too-and died a little inside) would totally annihlate my little 'girly' marines. However, his attempt to telerport his Terminators containing the sorceror right next to my one remaining scout I had on the objective failed, with them all being destroyed. He looked pissed off, but I didn't honestly think he was going to kick off. So, I charged my Libby into his lord-fair enough, you probably think. Wait for it (I know this is long winded, but I just want to be as clear on the events as possible-I don't quite believe it myself yet). In the assault phase, I strike first (Under the effect of the Quickening Power) and wound the lord. Then, passing my force weapon check, killed it in one before it struck back.
For a moment, the guy just sat there, mouth open. I asked if he wanted to redo the combat, and this time I wouldn't use the quickening (it did seem a kind of cheep move in my eyes.) Then, with a wail that would have put a banshee to shame, he grabbed his clippers from the table and came at me. I think he was going for my throat, but I moved quickley-it just caught my face, and drew a bit of blood. While I was dazed, he picked up my libby, clipped off his force weapon blade-and ate it. Yes, that's right, he actually ATE my force weapon. He then proceeded to clip more bits off, before smashing him into the ground and grinding it into the ground, before jumping back and asking "How's Booky Dweebish (His name for my Librarian) gonna kill my marines NOW?", and started laughing.
The store had just completely stopped now-all eyes on me. I bent down and picked up the battererd remains of my Librarian. Yes, a tear or two were shed-But I had put at least 15 man hours into PLANNING this guy out, he was to be my masterpiece. I then looked up at my opponent. He had stopped laughing by now.
I don't know exactly what happened next, but people standing nearby said to me after that they could see the Mark of Khorne light up in my eyes, and that I have never moved so fast. In the end, I think it was Paul-Resident Blackshirt and a credit to managers everywhere.-who stopped me from going after that guy and killing him. Afterwords, after closing and well into Pauls own time,he sat with me and helped me to rebuild my Librarian-although I asked to keep his backpack slightly broken as a reminder. I then walked out of the store with 2 nice free boxes of the new Stormvermin-so today wasn't a total loss .
I just got back from the docters a while ago-he said the bleeding should stop soon, but I may have a scar there for the rest of my days. I know some people will say I overeacted, and I apologise-but that Librarian was important to me (and I wonder why I have no Girlfreind ). I know that some people will also complain that I've wrote too much-again I apologise, but as I said earlier, I'm still not sure I belive this myself yet.
Take care
LLF
@Sinister brain: Oh my...Was the Chimera okay ?
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Post by: Ian Sturrock
The clippers story is slightly scary!
Awesome tales in general in this thread.
I have to say that while I am happy to bash GW's business decisions, poor playtesting, poor writing, and prices, I've always had positive experiences in dealing with their retail staff. Admittedly I don't go in GW stores all that often (high prices, again), but whenever I do, the staff are polite, friendly, and helpful.
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Post by: carmachu
General Hobbs wrote:
I hope you never look at PP or Reapermini prices.....
Priavteer press prices I get. Reaper minis? I gather you dont actually look at the models and prices. Becasue no, reaper isnt in the GW/ PP catagory of pricing...
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Post by: MaximusPrime
Im glad to say that the people in my GW store are fantastic. They are socially intact, and you can ingage in a porpper conversation to them without feeling awkward.
The local GW has a great atmosphere for me, people are laughing, high-fiving and having a good time. The cool thing is, they aren't bossy and waiting to tell someone off. They are more than happy to justify rules and questions, and even lend you gaming aids if you need any.
With all this animosity people are making about GW, alot of people are waiting for Gw staff members to do something wrong, and making a big deal about it when it happens...
I can also understand why the GW staff members don't like forums like these. They are the main source for GW haters to go and blow off steam without the awkwardness of being told off in person. If a website is creating a bad name and reputation for GW, they have all the right to not like these forums. I myself respect their point of view (even if it isn't the same as mine).
Im done
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Post by: Bongfu
I have not been to a GW store in a long while, even though there is one two blocks down the road and the Hobbytown my club plays at is a 40 minute drive for me.
Generally all the managers in my area (my area includes no less than 3 GW stores) seem to form clicks with the players who do nothing but blindly follow what GW tells them.
When the store opened down the road from me I was super excited. I spent almost every day in there for a month. I got a long okay with the manager, but eventually he started harassing me due to me not ever buying anything in the store.
My arguments were A) I built my armies a long time before this store opened. B) I at least try to consider myself smart with my money (though I just dropped $400 of my tax return on Warhammer) so I look for better deals on eBay or Craigslist before I buy in the store.
I understand his point about me not supporting the store, but seeing how the stores are corporate and not franchises I would much rather spend my money elsewhere. Our local Hobbytown has a deal going with our club where our members get special discounts on GW and Privateer Press products.
Long story short, the last time I was in the store both the regional manager and the store manager argued with me about my stance on being a hobby player and not being a "flavor of the month" player. Never been back since, even though both of them have been fired.
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Post by: Frazzled
How is that a horror story? You don't but anything then get out.
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Post by: Thaanos
Experiment 626 wrote: Thus was the true legacy of GW Burlington!
You forgot the earthquake We can't believe the store closed down over a year ago now... I can assure you that this is all true. I was a regular in that store before it closed down, and I remember being there for some of it, or hearing about it the next day. Now I play most of my games in my basement or in one of the other local hobby shops (as the next closest GW is about a 40 minute drive, and I don't have a car). I actually have fond memories of this store, the only upselling that was ever attempted on me(after my first month of visiting) was stuff that the staff knew I would actually want to use. and once I said I couldn't afford it, they said stopped.
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Post by: Skippy
Gymnogyps wrote:
These guys are so nasty they don't even get the irony that I was lambasted for not working the internets correctly (phone number), but then I'm a troll for being on the internet. At this point, I am completely offended. I silently pay and leave. I am ready, right then, to quit and sell every last GW product I own, and if I can't sell it, burn it.
I talk to a friend, who knows the regional manager. Regional manager asks me to come to lunch, apologizes, and comps me a Stegadon. I find out later that both were fired, not because of this, but I still am relieved they aren't around anymore.
That regional manager kept me involved in GW, but I still will not step foot in that store. It can rot for all I care.
Glad they were fired!
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Post by: warhawkstriker
I don't really have any horror stories, mostly because I have never set foot in a GW store. I play at the FFG event center during the summer, and it is the best experience ever. Nothing feels better than when you walk into a FLGS when you are home for break, and the manager greets you by your first name(granted we share a name) and asks what you have been up to. although it does seem that every time I go there during the summer there is a huge storm that rolls through.
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Post by: blood reaper
While not truly a horror story, an example of the obnoxious and horrid nature of the little ones in certain situations:
I was showing off my four Bloodcrushers of Khorne, and happily was obliged to describe the power of the Daemonic cavalry and their power and then, the stores high pitched demon spawn wonders over to the table and makes and idiotic and somewhat sly comment;
"Butz they Getz pwmzd by grey knights"
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Post by: Thaanos
Experiment 626 wrote:
#3 The type of unwanted regular 'customer' we termed 'Grossies'. I know you think you're funny and all, but please don't bring your crystal dildo into a store with young children.
I'm assuming this was Andrea......
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Post by: Ma55ter_fett
Lt. Coldfire wrote:Grimtuff wrote:Howard A Treesong wrote:The ultimate horror story is that guy who had a frustrated kid try to eat one of his figures. That is legend.
Is that the one about the "unbeaten" TS player who clipped off his opponent's Librarian's Force Weapon and ate it, cackling "He can't use it now can he?"?
I'm sure the full story of that is around here somewhere if it's not that one.
Fear not lads, for I had made sure to subscribe to that thread for when the story was brought up again! I was cracking up here at work reading it over again.
Here it is:
Little lord Fauntleroy wrote:Worst happened earlier. I was playing against a chaos marine guyin a 1500pt game-he was new to chaos, so I thought "What the hey-should be fun, and as a chaos player myself I might be able to give him some help". However, I decided to use my Howling Griffons, and my newly converted plastic Epistolary Librarian, so it doesn't just turn into Thousand sons ap 3 slaughterhouse.
From the moment the game started I knew it would end badly-the exact nature, of it though I couldn't have forseen. He had the most annoying voice, and constantly bragged about how his Lord with a demon weapon, Sorceror with bolt of change and 10 heavily upgraded Terminator champions (Yes, I laughed too-and died a little inside) would totally annihlate my little 'girly' marines. However, his attempt to telerport his Terminators containing the sorceror right next to my one remaining scout I had on the objective failed, with them all being destroyed. He looked pissed off, but I didn't honestly think he was going to kick off. So, I charged my Libby into his lord-fair enough, you probably think. Wait for it (I know this is long winded, but I just want to be as clear on the events as possible-I don't quite believe it myself yet). In the assault phase, I strike first (Under the effect of the Quickening Power) and wound the lord. Then, passing my force weapon check, killed it in one before it struck back.
For a moment, the guy just sat there, mouth open. I asked if he wanted to redo the combat, and this time I wouldn't use the quickening (it did seem a kind of cheep move in my eyes.) Then, with a wail that would have put a banshee to shame, he grabbed his clippers from the table and came at me. I think he was going for my throat, but I moved quickley-it just caught my face, and drew a bit of blood. While I was dazed, he picked up my libby, clipped off his force weapon blade-and ate it. Yes, that's right, he actually ATE my force weapon. He then proceeded to clip more bits off, before smashing him into the ground and grinding it into the ground, before jumping back and asking "How's Booky Dweebish (His name for my Librarian) gonna kill my marines NOW?", and started laughing.
The store had just completely stopped now-all eyes on me. I bent down and picked up the battererd remains of my Librarian. Yes, a tear or two were shed-But I had put at least 15 man hours into PLANNING this guy out, he was to be my masterpiece. I then looked up at my opponent. He had stopped laughing by now.
I don't know exactly what happened next, but people standing nearby said to me after that they could see the Mark of Khorne light up in my eyes, and that I have never moved so fast. In the end, I think it was Paul-Resident Blackshirt and a credit to managers everywhere.-who stopped me from going after that guy and killing him. Afterwords, after closing and well into Pauls own time,he sat with me and helped me to rebuild my Librarian-although I asked to keep his backpack slightly broken as a reminder. I then walked out of the store with 2 nice free boxes of the new Stormvermin-so today wasn't a total loss .
I just got back from the docters a while ago-he said the bleeding should stop soon, but I may have a scar there for the rest of my days. I know some people will say I overeacted, and I apologise-but that Librarian was important to me (and I wonder why I have no Girlfreind ). I know that some people will also complain that I've wrote too much-again I apologise, but as I said earlier, I'm still not sure I belive this myself yet.
Take care
LLF
@Sinister brain: Oh my...Was the Chimera okay ?
Awesome, now find the one about the shrike model and this thread will be complete!
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Post by: motyak
Jeeze I feel pretty lucky, the worst I've dealt with was feeling crook after eating a Nando's double fillet burger in 4 bites so I wasn't rude in making the guy I was playing with wait. Before I started the game I told him my dinner was coming and would have to duck out for 5 mins, but then felt bad so scoffed the thing in 4 bites..It was an achievement I think. My local GW in Brisbane is just brilliant compared to most of these stories, the guys are top notch, funny, welcoming, don't push any kind of hard sell, they are just good blokes it seems. And they play brilliant music ha
and @Maximus Prime, your store a Brisbane one?
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Post by: Lt. Coldfire
Ma55ter_fett wrote:
Awesome, now find the one about the shrike model and this thread will be complete!
Oh my, you don't mean (names have been changed in accordance with the FWPP):
Person A wrote:
I had my worst experience a not that long ago. I'm admittadly a new player, and just finished assembling my drop pod army. I know I should probably have practiced with some friends first, but I figured that the guys at the gaming store would be fun to play with.
I met this one guy who seemed a little off, but he was also a new player. He kept scratching his butt and smelling his hands. I didn't let him touch my models.He kept getting snippy about my drop pods, saying they were lame and stuff. I dunno. I still think they can work. Anyway, I thought that the didn't scatter, but I read that rule wrong. Also, I knew that only half would land on turn 1, but I thought that you get the rest on turn 2. I now know that you have to roll for the rest. But it was my first time with drop pods, and I'm learning.
He kept arguing a lot. Like he knew the rules, like when he tried to say that all of his nids had the "Without numbers" rule. He kept talking to his dice. He said he punished one of them by eating it...I didn't ask how he got it back or which one it was. He did pause everytime he said "Let me roll for scat...ter." *shudder*
Anyway, I told him that I had to go wash my hair and packed my stuff to leave. In my haste to get away from him, I think I left my shrike that I painted. I called and asked the store manager, but he hasn't found it, yet.
Person B wrote:
A couple months back, when I'd just started 40k, I played against a marines player who was running dreadnought swarm. He was drop podding them all in. So I ask him, "Hey, what the hell are you rolling first turn for? Deep striking units come in on the second turn!" He says "No, they have a special rule"
I didn't play marines, so I had no idea how drop pods worked at the time. BUT THAT"S NOT IT! When he was deepstriking, he would never roll for scatter. I asked him why he wasn't rolling for scatter, "Yeah,uh, drop pods have a special rule."
So yeah, naturally I lost the game, on account that it was my second game. It's okay though, I stole his kayvaan shrike model, Bwahahaha. Don't leave your HQ on the floor next time, douchebag!
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Post by: Samus_aran115
Shush you. That other guy was trolling
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Post by: FifteenHours
To be honest, if you are going to use the "...eating a Mcdonalds burger in a Burger King.." analogy, then technically if you are painting a non-GW product with GW paints in a GW-store, it is like buying a Mcdonald's burger and then going to Burger King to buy the fries, and eating both in the Burger King.
And to be fair, plenty of people do that and neither establishment has ever complained about it.
So yeah, to me it's totally unacceptable GW asked the OP to leave. I would've politely explained that since I had just bought GW citadel paints that I don't see why I should leave...
They could've just asked him to put it away and everyone is happy.
Well this is just one of many reasons I get all my GW products off ebay and second hand these days.
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Post by: Ian Sturrock
As an ex-shopkeeper myself (not at GW) I can understand the retail managers' frustration at people who are there often but never buy! As a customer, I would feel awkward doing that. I'd want to at least buy a small item every second visit or so -- even if it was just a pot of paint or a snap-together kit. Sure, I could save 50p or £1 buying elsewhere, but there's a courtesy issue I think. You have no obligation to buy, but really, the manager has no obligation to provide free gaming space to people who do all their buying on eBay. I do *most* of my buying on eBay too... but I'd still pick up some Gryphonne Sepia or something, to show willing.
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Post by: FifteenHours
Well that was my point - if you buy some paint in there you should be allowed to paint whatever you want (within reason). It gives much more justification.
At the most, a polite word telling the customer to be 'discreet' with non-GW models would be suffice, or to maybe put the model away until it's a bit quieter.
I just have a major issue when loyal customers are treated badly. Which they often are.
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Post by: -Loki-
Ian Sturrock wrote:As an ex-shopkeeper myself (not at GW) I can understand the retail managers' frustration at people who are there often but never buy! As a customer, I would feel awkward doing that. I'd want to at least buy a small item every second visit or so -- even if it was just a pot of paint or a snap-together kit. Sure, I could save 50p or £1 buying elsewhere, but there's a courtesy issue I think. You have no obligation to buy, but really, the manager has no obligation to provide free gaming space to people who do all their buying on eBay. I do *most* of my buying on eBay too... but I'd still pick up some Gryphonne Sepia or something, to show willing.
This is why I always buy a burger or something when I'm at my FLGS playing a game. It gives them some money from my visit, even if I'm not buying paint or a model.
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Post by: poda_t
Ian Sturrock wrote:As an ex-shopkeeper myself (not at GW) I can understand the retail managers' frustration at people who are there often but never buy! As a customer, I would feel awkward doing that. I'd want to at least buy a small item every second visit or so -- even if it was just a pot of paint or a snap-together kit. Sure, I could save 50p or £1 buying elsewhere, but there's a courtesy issue I think. You have no obligation to buy, but really, the manager has no obligation to provide free gaming space to people who do all their buying on eBay. I do *most* of my buying on eBay too... but I'd still pick up some Gryphonne Sepia or something, to show willing.
my problem with this is the giant price gap between ebay, MSRP and even store discounted rates........ I might like to pay for my stuff, but as it stands, since the prices for the product are so high, I will be hard pressed not to spend my money wisely. GW is simply fascist in this regard, because they only ever carry their own product, and you can't even cross over from or into the LOTR line. If i can't bring a comperitor's product in (because, let's say, their much more expensive models are a much higer quality, and I happen only to field said model as my commander) then GW suffers a hard hit (because they ejected me, i went off to an FLGS or a competitor), and tries to make up for it by increasing prices. yadda yadda yadda yadda yadda (interpret over-stated worn-through anti- GW arguments here). And this brings me to my second point. If an FLGS doesn't like you hanging and bumming around and just painting or glueing and just gaming, and you do not purchase anything there, the simplest way around this by far is to implement a membership program for gaming (close the store "early" to shoppers, and have "after hours" gaming). $10/month $50 for half a year and $95 for the full year, or some other arrangment. double the prices and add a points/discount reward system for purchases that isn't even worth it (just don't tell anyone its worthless) and people might start opening their wallets a bit more, and the store is also happy that people who take up space without buying products still paid for something. My horror story with GW is just rude, discourteous staff on frequent occasions (and also the start/root of my GW hatred). I don't care if two individuals are there, one is on call and the other one is just off, or a friend to the one on call, don't start sneering and making derogatory comments about preferences and skill with regard to painting. I keep seeing this one character around and he has a consistently demeaning attitude, and offers as little assistance as he can. To date, only one GW staffer has been of any use, and I loved this guy, I openend my wallet just a bit more, and wouldn't let anyone else process my payment but him (This is predicated on the assumption that he would end up getting the commission).
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Post by: R3con
I'm a disabled vet, both knees are missing pieces, ankle is fused, but hey I got cool scars.
I asked manager A if I could use a painting stool at a gaming table due to my issues, he said no problem have at it.
Manager A leaves and Manager B comes in mid game and starts yelling at me for sitting on a stool I calmly explain that my legs are fethed, and he states that a rule is a rule and anyone could say that. The other 3 guys I'm with say no he was in the Marines and his legs are fethed and all scared up. Manager B demands to see the scars to prove it, I pull up one pant leg show him where my tibia and fibula decided to exit stage left and pop through my skin. And pointed out where they put bone from my hips back into my leg on the other side. He said "oh well you can use the stool then" I calmly thanked him packed up and left. I have not set foot into a GWS since.
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Post by: candy.man
R3con’s story is simply shocking.
I get the feeling that a decent percentage of GW staff suffer from being too far up on their high horse. As someone who’s been in a couple of customer service jobs (where majority of the clients are rude and unpleasant to deal with), there’s always the temptation of thinking that “you’re better then the customer” which in turns causes a reduction of quality in service.
GW staff appears to suffer from the above as well as buying too much into the corporate spin/marking spin/brain washing and weird policies. From personal experience, I can easily say the best way to deal with a customer (as well as avoid angry clients) is to get down on their level and speak on their terms (as well as ignoring any weird low level policies that may impact with the sale). Use too much marketing/corporate spin, display a superiority complex and or anally follow all the weird policies and you will only drive customers away.
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Post by: -Loki-
candy.man wrote:I get the feeling that a decent percentage of GW staff suffer from being too far up on their high horse. As someone who’s been in a couple of customer service jobs (where majority of the clients are rude and unpleasant to deal with), there’s always the temptation of thinking that “you’re better then the customer” which in turns causes a reduction of quality in service.
You see it everywhere, not just retail, particularly if someone is even mildly unhappy with their job. As soon as they get even a fraction of an amount of authority, they abuse it for all it's worth.
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Post by: Experiment 626
Rimmy wrote:my fav was I did a demo game for this kid, maybe 8 or 9. any RS knows demo games the rules are irrelevant, its just to show the premise of the game not the try and teach it to anyone in 2 mins or less.
so I used to apply VERY basic rules to it, and I was REALLY amped on this day, just in a REALLY good mood. so I had arms flailing and explosion noises and pew pew noises and full long names and titles (this was the BFM starter set days so nids and Ultramarines)
this kid was REALLY into it. having a ball. (now having children of my own, I REALLY am glad I made that kid smile, my oldest was 6 months old at the time, she is now 6)
when we were done i'm sweating, the kids got a grin from ear to ear, I looked up and said, SO.... Did you enjoy the game?" kids smiling saying yes, looks at mom, mom looks at me and says he certainly did! "Good! can I interest you in viewing our starter set and maybe brining this excitement home?"
without missing a BEAT his mom looks at me and says "only if you come with it. I haven't seen that much energey in my house since before he was born."
I have never turned so red, IN my life. heat was just eminating off of my face.
I sold them a great starter package, got a big kudos from my manager, and as she's walking out she says, "so you'll be here to play with me when we come back right?.... the game too?"
By the Emporer's hand that actually happenned.
Nice one mate!
We had this one youngster who was similar - I played a demo with him being loud and getting right into it, letting him beat the snot out of the orks. (not hard really when I charge the nobz into 5 marines and miss with all 15 attacks!) His dad is kinda akward asking if I lose on purpose to get his son hooked on the game.  The kid is litterly jumping up and down begging his parents to get him the Black Reach set as I'm giving my pitch.
His parents come back a few days later and get him a nice starter bundle for Xmas with the Black Reach set + Academy package. My manager tells me afterwards that his parents asked specifically if I could run their son's classes because he can't wait to 'beat on my orks some more!'
He becomes a regular on sundays for litterly every single mega battle except the few weeks he and his family are on vacation. Last xmas, he started up a new Dark Eldar army, and as we'd recently started carrying the BL novels again, I told his mum about how much I enjoyed the Ultramarines novels, (which are his absolute favourite space marines), and how maybe they could read it together while he's painting/building. She thinks it's a great idea and grabs the omnibus for his stocking!
My manager later tells me that this young fella's mum had told him that this little guy is normally a very quiet, shy kid who litterly never came out of his shell untill he met me and the rest of the staff the year before. But ever since this little guy started playing 40k with his Ultramarines, when he's in our store he'd be a totally different person and had learned alot of valuable people skills and even gained some new friends.
It honestly brought a tear to my eye as we sat back and realised how huge an effect 5 of us staff had had on this little guy.
Man I miss our store... Sure God was constantly trying to kill us and all, but it was good times and I always enjoyed running those demos!
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Post by: hotsauceman1
Guys, you made my heart melt.
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Post by: Che-Vito
Frazzled wrote:Che-Vito wrote:n0t_u wrote:Someone started talking to me about lesbians, I was asked to leave[i] (there were kids around) [/i]with them despite them being the only one talking and me try to politely distance myself...
You know, you'd likely never be asked to leave a store for talking about heterosexual people.
If there are kids around, they can deal.
Or you can deal. You have no right to anything, except death and taxes.
Frazzled, I've had a healthy respect for your posts and like almost everything you've had to say, but the above one is absolutely abhorrent to me.
I'd like to think that we all can play a part in ending institutionalized descrimination; and that starts with people's attitude. If people want to discuss things that store owner is not comfortable with, then they can absolutely be asked to leave. Their store, and their rules.
My issue is with n0t_u saying that talking about lesbians (without defining whether the speech was demeaning or not.) is unacceptable because children were around.
America promises certain rights, and needs to promise equal 'rights' to those that don't have them. Use 'privileges' if the word suits you better; but your attempt at a jaded comment comes off as worse than uneducated.
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Post by: SagesStone
It was a somewhat demeaning monologue, though was stopped before it got too far out of hand. Pretty damn random though. I'm also not in America, thought the rights should be pretty much the same besides the gun.
I like reading threads like this, always an interesting story or two.
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Post by: Krellnus
n0t_u wrote:It was a somewhat demeaning monologue, though was stopped before it got too far out of hand. Pretty damn random though. I'm also not in America, thought the rights should be pretty much the same besides the gun.
I like reading threads like this, always an interesting story or two.
Indeed, threads like this are always fun, I think I remember you telling me about this before as well, would have been a fair while back though wouldn't it?
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Post by: boyd
Che-Vito wrote:n0t_u wrote:Someone started talking to me about lesbians, I was asked to leave[i] (there were kids around) [/i]with them despite them being the only one talking and me try to politely distance myself...
You know, you'd likely never be asked to leave a store for talking about heterosexual people.
If there are kids around, they can deal.
I might be going out on a limb here but when a group of young adolescent males get together and talk about lesbians, its not about their rights or how they are not allowed to get married. Something tells me it had nothing to do with their orientation but the activities they were engaging in. If you were to talk about two or more heterosexual people engaging in the same acts with children present it still wouldn't make the conversation appropriate. Why would graphic discussions about coitus be appropriate around minors?
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Post by: Che-Vito
boyd wrote:Che-Vito wrote:n0t_u wrote:Someone started talking to me about lesbians, I was asked to leave[i] (there were kids around) [/i]with them despite them being the only one talking and me try to politely distance myself...
You know, you'd likely never be asked to leave a store for talking about heterosexual people.
If there are kids around, they can deal.
Something tells me it had nothing to do with their orientation but the activities they were engaging in. If you were to talk about two or more heterosexual people engaging in the same acts with children present it still wouldn't make the conversation appropriate. Why would graphic discussions about coitus be appropriate around minors?
And that's fine. n0t_u simply needed to make that clear, which was done a few posts ago.
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Post by: poda_t
Che-Vito wrote:Frazzled wrote:Che-Vito wrote:n0t_u wrote:Someone started talking to me about lesbians, I was asked to leave[i] (there were kids around) [/i]with them despite them being the only one talking and me try to politely distance myself...
You know, you'd likely never be asked to leave a store for talking about heterosexual people.
If there are kids around, they can deal.
Or you can deal. You have no right to anything, except death and taxes.
Frazzled, I've had a healthy respect for your posts and like almost everything you've had to say, but the above one is absolutely abhorrent to me.
I'd like to think that we all can play a part in ending institutionalized descrimination; and that starts with people's attitude. If people want to discuss things that store owner is not comfortable with, then they can absolutely be asked to leave. Their store, and their rules.
My issue is with n0t_u saying that talking about lesbians (without defining whether the speech was demeaning or not.) is unacceptable because children were around.
America promises certain rights, and needs to promise equal 'rights' to those that don't have them. Use 'privileges' if the word suits you better; but your attempt at a jaded comment comes off as worse than uneducated.
kid. You be young. Frazzled be telling the truth. Rights entitle you to make whatever choices you need for following through on obligations. I know im barely a fart older than you.... but..... hej, gak happens and you either grow up or end up feeling like everyone owes you something. Frazzled wasn't picking on you with that comment.
And let's be honest. We know the types of characters that attend a GW store that happen to be discussing lesbians are more than likely not going to be on about liberties, women's rights and the feminist movement, and the artistic portryal of a genderless, or gender-equal society through a lesbian relationship....
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Post by: Che-Vito
poda_t wrote:Che-Vito wrote:Frazzled wrote:Che-Vito wrote:n0t_u wrote:Someone started talking to me about lesbians, I was asked to leave[i] (there were kids around) [/i]with them despite them being the only one talking and me try to politely distance myself...
You know, you'd likely never be asked to leave a store for talking about heterosexual people.
If there are kids around, they can deal.
Or you can deal. You have no right to anything, except death and taxes.
Frazzled, I've had a healthy respect for your posts and like almost everything you've had to say, but the above one is absolutely abhorrent to me.
I'd like to think that we all can play a part in ending institutionalized descrimination; and that starts with people's attitude. If people want to discuss things that store owner is not comfortable with, then they can absolutely be asked to leave. Their store, and their rules.
My issue is with n0t_u saying that talking about lesbians (without defining whether the speech was demeaning or not.) is unacceptable because children were around.
America promises certain rights, and needs to promise equal 'rights' to those that don't have them. Use 'privileges' if the word suits you better; but your attempt at a jaded comment comes off as worse than uneducated.
kid. You be young. Frazzled be telling the truth. Rights entitle you to make whatever choices you need for following through on obligations. I know im barely a fart older than you.... but..... hej, gak happens and you either grow up or end up feeling like everyone owes you something. Frazzled wasn't picking on you with that comment.
And let's be honest. We know the types of characters that attend a GW store that happen to be discussing lesbians are more than likely not going to be on about liberties, women's rights and the feminist movement, and the artistic portryal of a genderless, or gender-equal society through a lesbian relationship....
Rather than derail further than we all already have, I'll take this to PM.
I agree that the stereotypical gamer is not pegged to be the type to talk about society progressing; my point is that every individual can make that bit of difference in changing that. I am not the type to bring the conversation up out of the blue, because frankly that annoys me regardless of the subject. But when the subject arises, I will voice my opinion in a way that is polite and respectful.
You'd be surprised at how many conversations this has created with gamers, that have been very at-odds with our stereotype.
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Post by: Doctadeth
One of my friends had an absolutely crazy time with the old GW in perth (Rayne Square). He collected Eldar at the time, and I had my dark angels of course. We were playing CoC/arkham horror, it was a wednesday afternoon, quiet and nobody else in the store. My friend has parental problems and so has few places he can go to paint his CoC minis from RAFM.
He had previously asked permission from the staff to paint other models in there in quiet times, and had been granted it. I was instore as well, and we were just painting, me my dark angels and he his CoC minis. Store manager starts ranting about how its not a GW model. My friend sighs and goes to put it away.
The manager grabs my friends' case, goes outside and lobs it over the balcony of the 2nd story, I hear this huge bang and thud, go outside and the manager is standing over my friend's prone form.
Turns out the manager punched my friend in the face, and he fell on his head, had to have a shedload of rehabilitation for it. And to make things worse, the GW staff didn't even call an ambulance, I had to walk the kilometer to the ER with my friend. The case was a write-off.
Thats why I left Warhammer 40 000 for 6 years.
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Post by: Bongo_clive
Boring!
Let's get back to stories of desperate housewives and cannibalistic gamers
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Post by: curran12
Whaaaaat? And you didn't call the police?
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Post by: Dunwich
That story needs an ending! What happened to the manager?
edit: and why did the manager flip out?
There has gotta be more to this story.
edit again: please tell me you filed a police report.
It's not like the guy would be hard to track down, he was at work!
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Post by: Doctadeth
Between the getting my friend to hospital ASAP and getting back to get my case, the manager scarpered, and I haven't seen him since.
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Post by: SagesStone
Surely it didn't end that way, right? I'm hoping he was at least fired if not sued or charged with something as that's just not right no matter the justification.
Edit: Ninja'd
So the coward just ran from it in the end...
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Post by: Dunwich
How can he run? I'm sure the store has all his details and would cooperate with police.
This story is so confusing because I can't understand the motivation for
a) The manager flipping out and
b) Not getting the police involved or at the very least getting some compensation from GW.
That doesn't explain his behavior or why you didn't follow it up.
vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv
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Post by: Doctadeth
One of the former staff members who was in the store at the time told me about six months ago, that he actually quit his job and was planning to leave Australia, had been planning to go for about six months or something.
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Post by: kshaw2000
Pacific wrote:Gymnogyps, that is quite a genuinely awful story. Sadly, you occasionally get social misfits working in GWs, and it's good that they were got rid of.
Ovion wrote:Yeah, the standard policy in GW is the models must be GW product.
The exception being bases and some bitz (blades / guns / etc) scratchbuilt Apoc units, but even then they generally need to be at least 50% GW Product ( I tend to find large amounts of Sprue Rubble on bases and Greenstuff to do the job of bringing up the percentage. )
Exception being scratch built apoc units that are just unreasonably awesome enough to stay.
I've regularly used entire squads that are not GW models in a store. My IG army is a mix of Pig Iron heads, heavy-walkers and Copplestone Castings terminators. There is even an Infinity model in there, the key is:
- Paint your models, so it is not immediately obvious.
- Don't draw attention to them - if 'that kid' points them out, refute his claim (I always say the Copplestone Castings models are OOP Necrons for instance)
- Don't be a prat and behave like it is your God-given right to use them. It helps if you know the guy working in the store, but always be conscientious with their use.
- Spend money in the store, if the guy working in there is not a complete jobsworth then usually that gives you some breathing room.
Of course the best answer is to play in a club or FLGS, and to revel in the freedom that they offer you, but if you are smart about it you can play unmolested most of the time. I've been at events in Warhammer World where 'best painted' armies have had non- GW components and even models in them, but so much of it comes down to your behaviour and whether you try and behave like a wise guy.
our GW guy is OK but he gets cranky when you use your own paint "for safety reasons". well it might be.
He keeps trying to make me buy templates, cept I dont have template guns.
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Post by: curran12
Sorry Docta, but I don't buy that story without more details. There's gotta be more to it, and it still doesn't explain why you haven't called the police on it. Way too over the top and full of holes.
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Post by: Lordhat
Frazzled wrote:kronk wrote:Frazzled wrote:Beware the Cougar, for no good can come from those fiendish claws.
I respectfully disagree.
In a GW, I'm gonna disagree right back.
1. High chance are married. Das ist nicht gut!
2. If not married, definitely has at least one demon spawnling. Being the evil step dad is not for the faint of heart.
1. Agree, es no bueno!
2 implies that interacting with a cougar (in any sense you want to interpret "interacting") involves permanence or commitment. That would be the first mistake.
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Post by: Doctadeth
I've omitted some of the details because a lot of it is personal, and rather sensitive to boot.
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Post by: TheRobotLol
My gw horror story:
I was just a normal custemer in a normal lgs, and wanted to buy two baxes of plague marines, and a raptor squad. I went up to the counter and said i wanted to buy them. The fat blob behind the counter, evidently melded with the counter, chair and mobile phone said;
"wait maaan, im textin"
i wait. "yo, can i buy these?" i say
"He said, WAIT DUDE im orderin dominoes, SO PACK IT THE HELL IN."
I wait 2 mins. "CAN I PLEASWE JUST BUY THE DAMN THINGS, PLEASE.
"I DON'T LIKE YOU ATTITUDE." he says, and walks off, snatching the boxes from me, with a sneer
Needlss to say i talk to the manager, and the man is fired, because he has done this several times in the recent past aswell as to me.
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Post by: Lordhat
So I read this story years ago, I think it might have been on Dakka but I'm not sure I don't even know who wrote it originally because a google search only brought this up on a German forum, and granted it's not about a GW but hell it's still hilarious.
The other day my gaming group of 8 came to my house to play. We play on three tables in my basement and often times run mini tournaments that span a couple of weeks. This time though a young kid around 13 (we're all in our mid twenties) showed up with one of the guys who had never played but loved to paint. He was kind of a funny looking kid who was a round as a basketball and had the brightest red hair that I have ever seen. He asked to be called "Fat Toby".
Fat Toby had picked up a codex and an ork codex and had painted them AND converted a bunch of models without ever knowing anyone who played. I was very impressed by his models which were exquisitly done and far superior to even the best of our own. I guess some people just have an innate talent. Any way, I drew his name for the first battle. I was excited and a little scared as my Biel Tan army was not outfitted to fight his swarm army. I was also excited to help him learn how to play.
Turn one came around and nothing happened except for movement which he had down pat. Turn two and I finally got to shoot his Skar Boyz with shuriken pistols. Then it happened. Fat toby reached into his bag and pulled out a hand full of D20's. We all thought he was kidding and started laughing. After we explained that he needed a 4+ (or whatever it is) on a D6 Fat Toby grabbed his warboss and chucked it against the wall. He then started to say how impossible it was to roll a 6+ for his boyz on a D6 and that he only bought the "Stupid Orks" cause they were cheap and he thought that he had a 3/4 chance to save on his normal boys. He then tossed two of his Killa Kans onto the floor and crushed them beneath his feet. His face matched his the color of his bright red hair and he was screaming abot how long he'd painted his Orks and how much of a waste it was. He stomped out of the house and down the street. I ran after the poor guy and asked him if I could at least help him pack up his stuff and give him a ride home. He said that he would walk and that I could keep his *blankety blank* army. I've not seen or heard from him since then which was over a month ago.
I glued the warboss together, though the Kans were toast and ended up with the finest painted army that I own. The only problem is that I feel that we lost a good painter and a possible fine future member to the gaming community.
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Post by: Saphos
Great Thread. ^^
My worst GW experience was when, back in 1998, my fellow co-worker attacked another one. Oo I worked for GW part-time during school and had this former british soldier of scottish ancestry as a colleague. Many had been stationed in Dortmund, Germany, and he stayed when they had left. He and and another co-worker didn´t get too well along but it was okay most of the time. One especially bad day though they were both in the back office and suddenly, after the one guy left the office for our sales room, the scot came after him and start punching him. I was abolutely puzzled for a couple of seconds but then tried to hold him back. He was luckily so furious that he was not really coordinated. He was much heavier then me and under other circumstances might have knocked me out. I was able to restrain him and he calmed down after a couple of minutes. He apologized for his behaviour and thanked me later for holding him back but unsurprisingly, this got him fired. The other guy thought twice about provoking someone (which he had done) in the future for sure.
All in all, I had mostly positive experiences with the staff n the places I have been.
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Post by: Grimtuff
Here's one that is always a classic from Somethingawful. Not GW, but meh.
It's a bit of a long read but it's totally worth it.
"Can I get three Mage Knight boosters, please?"
It was a bright, sunny and unbearably hot Saturday in mid-June and, as usual, I was trapped behind the counter in the gaming store I worked at part-time. The skinny nerd in front of me requesting Mage Knight boosters was covered in acne and wore a stained Punisher tee-shirt, his sweaty, eager palm clutching a slightly damp 20 dollar bill. His name was Billy and he was in here all the damn time. Half-lidded, I grabbed three boxes of that accursed clicking-figures game and tossed them on the counter. He picked one of them up.
"No, dude, hand me the box of them. I need to test the weight, I'm looking for a rare." said Billy.
Somebody fething shoot me. It's not that I hated gaming nerds; hell, a sizable percentage of them were surprisingly friendly and decent people who had an incurable obsession, like lovable alcoholics. Unfortunately the latest craze was a game called Mage Knight, which is a game where Wizards of the Coast takes money from teenagers in exchange for a box of poorly painted little action figures where you incessantly click the numbers around on the base and pretend the toys are killing eachother. I thought it was slowed, mostly because it attracted the worst kind of gamer: the obsessive collector. The kid in front of me was clearly one of these.
The bells we'd attached to the door rang and in stepped a slender redhead wearing nude lipstick and a babydoll tee-shirt with Edward Scissorhands on it. Her name was Nicole, and she was surprisingly attractive, which meant she probably wasn't here to pretend she was a dwarf or click little figures and shout obscure rules at a fat bearded guy in suspenders.
"Someone's girlfriend is here to pick them up," I thought to myself. We had girls come in to the store but nine times out of ten they were someone's mother or fiancee or wife, an enabler that couldn't break their beloved's crippling nerd habit. If they were there to game then they either already had a boyfriend or were 500 pounds and balding.
So when this girl came up to the counter and asked if we had the latest Magic: The Gathering booster set, you can imagine my confusion. If it were in my power to have summoned a question mark to stand boldly over my head, I surely would have.
"Sure, we've got it." I took the box down from the shelf and set it in front of her, finishing up the other nerd's transaction.
"Whoa, a girl who plays magic!" said Billy, a sort of derisive sneer crossing his scarred-up adolescent face.
Nicole rolled her eyes and rooted through the booster box. Billy stood there staring at her a while.
"Did you need something else, man?" I said, sitting back on my stool and picking up my newspaper.
"Oh.. uh, no.." he stammered, still staring at Nicole, who was rifling through the box like a coke addict scrounging in his couch cushions for change. Billy scuttled off back to the Gulag, which was the big free-gaming area we had in the rear of the store.
Nicole selectred three packs of cards and pulled out her wallet just as Tom came swaggering from out of the Gulag.
Tom was a regular, but he was the kind of regular nobody really wanted around. He was short, around 5 foot 6 or so, with a skinny build and an absolutely tragic haircut, parted at the side and neatly combed over the dome of his skull, with occasional stray hairs sticking out. He had beady little eyes and a moustache we all referred to as "chomo", which is short for something very unpleasant. Tom worked as a tech support guy at America Online, which had a big plant just east of where we were at. Routinely he'd come in to the store dressed in his work clothes, which was an ugly white polo shirt, khaki slacks and his dorky little employee badge hanging from his belt. This was the kind of guy who actually wore his celphone in a stupid little belt clip, like some kind of techie wannabe cowboy, fastest nerd in the west. He liked Warhammer and Battletech and every time a girl came into the store his "creepy scuzzbag" alarm went off and he arrived on the scene, ready to flirt. Frequently he's chased female customers off, to the point where we weren't sure if we should even allow him to come into the store anymore; unfortunately, Tom spent so much on games that if we kicked him out, the slow trickle of returning females wouldn't spend enough to make up what we'd lose by giving Tom the boot.
It was no surprise to me that Billy must have reported to him that there was a cute girl in the store. As he came strutting up to the counter, I was just finishing up Nicole's transaction, and I rolled my eyes.
"Hey Swami, can I get some Magic cards, man?"
"Tom, you don't play Magic." Oh christ. He's trying to pick up on this girl by buying Magic cards? Time to throw up the cockblock shield.
"I want to learn man! Are you denying me a sale?" I rolled my eyes again and pushed the booster box over near Tom. Nicole lit up a little and smiled at him.
"Oh, you wanna learn how to play?" she said.
If you've ever seen the Chuck Jones version of How The Grinch Stole Christmas, then you can envision the disgusting, villainous smile that creeped its way across Tom's wormy little mouth.
"Yeah! Hey, I've never seen you in here before." Tom said, turning to rest his elbow against the counter.
"Oh, the one store near my house closed so now I have to drive over here to get cards." Nicole said.
"Thank god for that. No competition is good competition." I said. Nicole laughed.
Tom faked a laugh. "So, do you wanna teach me how to play?"
"Sure! I hardly know anyone around here, I need someone to play with!" Nicole said. No, Tom, don't. Don't, please. Nicole, you know not of what you speak.
"Oh yeah, me too." He said, his voice clearly hinting at a stomach-turning innuendo. What a shitheel.
The two tottered off back to the Gulag and I sighed heavily. I expected her come running out screaming within an hour. A few hours later they walked back through the front of the store and stood near the entrance. Tom touched Nicole on the shoulder and smiled.
"Thanks for the lesson! Hey, what are you doing tonight?" he said. He moves quick.
"Uh, I think my mom wants me to be home for dinner." she said, moving for the door. Oh good, she's caught the foul stench of Tom's true intentions.
"Oh, okay. I'm having a party, is all. Hey so, are you gonna come back and teach me some more?"
"Sure!" Nicole smiled. "See you around!"
Nicole left and Tom swaggered on up to the counter.
"And THAT" he said, pointing at me, "Is how you pick up a hot chick! Learn from the MASTER, son!"
"Hey Tom, how old is she?" Tom shrugged.
"Sixteen."
"And you're how old?"
"Twenty three."
"You realize that makes you a creepy feth, right?" I said, turning down my newspaper. "Pft, you're just jealous because you have no skills with the ladies."
"I have a girlfriend, Tom, and she's my age and I didn't have to buy fething Magic cards to flirt with her."
"Whatever man." Tom scuttled back to the Gulag to return to his Warhammer match.
he next weekend Nicole came back, and I was happy to see her, because Justin was in the store. Justin was a really nice little somewhat-emo kid who was 16, played Magic and had a good head on his shoulders. I'd hoped Nicole would take a liking to him and put a stop to Tom's ridiculous cradle-robbing antics. Lucky for me, Justin was sitting at the demo table we kept in the front of the store, sorting his cards, when Nicole stepped in.
"Hey Swami!" Nicole said, cheerfully.
"Sup." I said. "Hey, Justin, this is Nicole, she's looking for someone to play Magic with." Justin lifted his head and smiled a little.
"Oh yeah? Cool." Ah, the wheels were turning. Nicole went over to the demo table and started commenting on Justin's cards.
My work here was done. Or so I thought.
The bells on the front door rang and in came Tom, holding a big card box, wearing his terminally dorky work clothes.
"Hey Nicole!" he practically shouted. "I brought some cards, are you ready to play?" Nicole lifted her head.
"Oh, yeah, maybe a little later, this guy here has some amazing decks." Nicole said, sitting down next to Justin. Atta girl.
"Well hey, maybe we can have a three-way! A little, you know, meh-nayge-ah-troys!" Tom said. It was all I could do to not leap over the counter and strangle him until his eyes popped out of his worthless little skull. I wasn't sure what offended me more; his slaughtering of the french language or the fact that he was so aggressively pursuing a sixteen year old. Justin fortunately had more sense than I'd thought.
"Dude, there's like, a Battletech tournament in the back. You're like, third on the list." Justin said.
"Oh, you're right. gak, I forgot. Hey, I'll come out after I'm done and we'll all play together, okay?" Tom said, moving back towards the Gulag.
"Sure!" Nicole said, and gave him a little wave. Tom gave her a thumbs-up. Christ, what a [ see forum posting rules].
"That guy's kind of a creep." Justin said.
"Yeah, but he's nice anyway and I need people to play Magic with." Nicole pursed her lips.
"He's probably just like... trying to hit on you. Anyway did you want to play?" and the two kids started sorting out their cards.
About an hour later Nicole got up and went to the bathroom, so Justin sat back and put his feet on the chair in front of him. Tom came out, sweating like a pig.
"Hey, where's Nicole?" he asked.
"She's off reporting you to the police for being a pederast." I said. Justin laughed.
"Eight-year-olds, dude!" Justin snapped. This kid was alright.
"Very funny, you little fether." Tom barked to Justin. "I saw her first." he sneered.
"Go feth yourself, Tom. She isn't interested in you." Justin just sat back, shuffling his cards.
"Tom, she's way too young for you and if you scare off another female customer I'm going to ban you from the store." I said, crossing my arms. It was an empty threat, because the five to six hundred bucks Tom spent in the store every month was worth far more to me than Nicole's business, but I wanted to scare him. Just then Nicole came out. Tom turned to regard her.
"Hey Nicole, ready to play?"
"Actually Justin and I were going to get some lunch." she said, avoiding eye contact with him.
"Oh! Well hey, I'm starving, can I come along?" Tom begged.
"No." Justin said. I laughed. So did Nicole. Tom got all huffy and turned, stomping back to the Gulag. Nicole and Justin sauntered out of the store. I liked where this was going.
20 minutes later Tom comes walking out of the Gulag, clearly pissed off, his beady little eyes straining to express anger.
"Swami, that was fethed UP dude." He said, slamming is hand on the counter.
"What? Tom, get a fething grip. She's not interested in you and you are WAY TOO fething OLD FOR HER."
"Oh yeah? Well there's a spark there. She likes me. You can't deny that she has a thing for me!
Did you see the way she waved at me?"
"Did you hear the way she laughed when Justin completely shut your ass down? Stop being such a gak, Tom, and give it up. Enough, this is over."
"It's not up to you!"
"You're right, but I can still do something about it. Leave her alone, man. She's a customer and you're harassing her."
"It's not harassment!" Just as Tom said this, Justin and Nicole came in. They were holding hands. Justin works fast, I'll give him that.
"Hey kids." I said, standing up from my stool. Tom stomped up to Justin.
"This isn't over!" he said, fuming mad and storming out the door. Justin and Nicole rolled their eyes and went over to the table to start up another game.
The next day was a Sunday and the store was especially busy. Justin came in a little early, holding a stack of papers.
"Hey Justin, what's up?" I asked, surprised to see him in so early.
"Dude, you have to see what I found on the internet." He turned his stack of papers around.
What greeted me was a black and white photocopied image of Tom, completely nude, standing in front of his bed, his meaty little hand gripping a tiny appendage I could only assume was supposed to be his penis. His hair was sticking up all over and he had a big gak-eating grin on his face. I burst into an epic laugh that must have lasted 10 minutes long. I actually fell off my stool.
"Dude, that is fething SICK! Oh my GOD!" I said. "Put that gak away!"
"Hell no man! Is Tom here?"
"Yeah, he's in the back, but..."
Nicole walked in and smiled upon seeing Justin.
"Hey!" she said, walking up to him and giving him a hug from behind.
"Hey Nicole, check this..." He didn't even finish his sentence before Nicole saw the photo and burst into laughter, covering her mouth with her hand. Justin grinned and sauntered on back to the Gulag. I didn't follow, and neither did Nicole. We sat and waited.
All I heard was "HEY GUYS, CHECK IT OUT!" followed by what appeared to be stunned silence, which was followed by the loudest laughter I've ever heard in my life. 30 nerds laughing at the top of their lungs, and then one anguished scream. Justin came bolting out of the Gulag.
"I better get the feth out of here!" he said, grabbing Nicole's arm. Tom shot out from the back room and grabbed Justin by the back of the shirt, pushing Nicole to the floor.
"HEY! KNOCK IT THE feth OFF!" I yelled, standing up and moving to walk around the counter and stop Tom from wailing on Justin. It was too late; Tom's fist came down on Justin's face and he cracked him in the jaw. Justin had apparently made big plans for that photo, because the big stack of copies he'd made went flying everywhere, Tom's grinning, naked mug covering the floor. I moved to grab Tom's shoulders, but Justin wasn't having any of it. He kicked up and nailed Tom right in his tiny little testicles, which sent Tom to the floor in agony. Justin dropped to his knees and started wailing on Tom's face, battering his nose up and breaking out one of his teeth, surrounded by the photo.
"Wait, stop, dude, no." I said plainly, crossing my arms and standing there. By now a huge crowd had gathered and someone was frantically calling the police on his celphone, but nobody was moving to pull Justin off of Tom, who at this point had become a crumpled little bloody ball on the floor. Justin stood up and spat on him, turning back to help Nicole up off the floor. Tom started crying, curling into a fetal position. Everyone just stood there, watching him bleed all over the tile.
He deserved every blow. What an donkey-cave.
THE END
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Post by: High_Marshal_Helbrecht
Posted in a previous thread like this, but they are my horror stories!
hought I would share my worst two, although they are not about the staff but the clients, who by and far are a WHOLE lot worse than the guys behind the counter!!
1) Went into the LGS in cardiff one day while out with my GF, went to buy some new Black Templar bits and some Tomb Kings and Vampire Counts army books!
So while im over one end of the store looking through some stuff, my GF is reading the backs of boxes etc. just killing time while I nerd out over Ushbati *nerd-gasm* and I hear her scream, swear and the unmistakeable sound of someone hitting the floor.
I turn to see my GF red and flustered and some Chewbacca looking fool on the floor, after we left and she calmed down she told me what happened, now she is erm..rather..Large in the chest?...And she will always get stared at etc. but we cope!
So as it turns out she was stood looking at somethings and the chewbacca guy came up behind her, put his hands under her top and essentially groped her!..She spun round and smacked him knocking him unconscious! >.<
(on reflection...This would be her story not mine...Although it took all her convincing for me not to go back there and stamp on his stomach till he gaks Green Stuff!!)
2)I was at a tournament at my NEW FLGS and I severly tabled my Nid playing opponent with my 3k of Black templars he got a bit annoyed, started shouting about how are smoke launchers are cheating and the vows shouldn't be allowed etc. I offered to shake his hand and just tried to be the bigger man, he told me to Feth off, so I went and stood with some friends and talked for a while since I was waiting for one of them to finish!
I was stood infront of this big glass display full of all the pro-paintined miniatures from the various commissions the shop owner commissioned, and this kid wanting to get revenge tried to shove me into it. Although i hadn't seen him come up to push me, a friend did and yanked me out of the way, the kid stumbled and crashed into it broke EVERYTHING and destroyed every single model! Needless to say he was banned and made to pay the considerable price for breaking them all (Parents were NOT happy!!)
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Post by: LooT
Ye Gods....
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Post by: Pacific
Lord of Timbraxia wrote:Ye Gods....
+1 on that!
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Post by: KGatch113
Here are my favorite stories from when I worked Direct Sales at GW HQ in Baltimore.
Lady calls me up asking where her order was. We have a 24-48 packing period, beginning at 8 in the morning on a business day. The lady ordered on a Friday with 2 day shipping, so it would not reach the system until Monday. Except....Monday was New Years Eve. Tuesday was New Years. Weds was a national day of mourning for President Ford. So the order went into the system the following Thursday. Remember...24-48 hour packing period....guess when the order finally got packed? Monday ( first 24 was part of Thursday-Friday, second 24 was Friday-Monday). She needed the order for the following Tuesday ( which would be the day after it shipped).
She flips out, saying we ruined her kids birthday yadda yadda. I try to calm her down. She then says...I'm a lawyer and I can sue you. SOP when someone threatens to sue is to tell them they have to call legal, and end the call, because anything we say or do after that point could be used against the company. I ignore her and proceed to offer her an apology for her bad luck, since we technically did nothing wrong. Refunded her 2 day shipping and sent the child out a High Elf battalion box set and a High Elf army book.
The next week I get a call from her kids. Asking where their new ( totally separate from the birthday/apology order was). Ordered with 2 day shipping. On a Thursday night.....
Another one....guy calls me up and says he got his order, but he got someone else's as well. I look up the miss shipped order....300 dollars worth of stuff. I tell him I am going to create a tag for it, when he receives it could he put it on the box and give it to the UPS guy when he shows up to pick it up? The guy says sure but....he lives in Alaska, and has to drive 100 miles to get to a bush pilot to fly to a town to drive to the post office. This is taking place in early December. I pause, and then say, Merry Christmas, keep the stuff. There was no way I was going to make that guy lug a big box through all of that for us. I then rekeyed the order and sent it to the correct address.
Another time a guy calls me up, and asks, if an imperial guardsmen fires a plasmagun and it overheats and fails his save, does he die instantly. I say yes.
He comes on here and posts how dumb GW guys are, because I told him " If you overheat from plasma you can suffer Instand Death."
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Post by: master of ordinance
Recently i caught up with a freind at Harlequins.
He has apparently been banned from our local GW for making a formal complaint. WWWWHHHHAAATTTT!!!!
turned out some kid had accidentialy walked of with his £200 chaos dwarf FW army(it was an honest mistake) so the staff asked him to leave as he had nothing to do so he made a complaint against the staff member.
so the manager banned him for it....
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Post by: hotsauceman1
KGatch113 wrote:
Here are my favorite stories from when I worked Direct Sales at GW HQ in Baltimore.
Lady calls me up asking where her order was. We have a 24-48 packing period, beginning at 8 in the morning on a business day. The lady ordered on a Friday with 2 day shipping, so it would not reach the system until Monday. Except....Monday was New Years Eve. Tuesday was New Years. Weds was a national day of mourning for President Ford. So the order went into the system the following Thursday. Remember...24-48 hour packing period....guess when the order finally got packed? Monday ( first 24 was part of Thursday-Friday, second 24 was Friday-Monday). She needed the order for the following Tuesday ( which would be the day after it shipped).
She flips out, saying we ruined her kids birthday yadda yadda. I try to calm her down. She then says...I'm a lawyer and I can sue you. SOP when someone threatens to sue is to tell them they have to call legal, and end the call, because anything we say or do after that point could be used against the company. I ignore her and proceed to offer her an apology for her bad luck, since we technically did nothing wrong. Refunded her 2 day shipping and sent the child out a High Elf battalion box set and a High Elf army book.
The next week I get a call from her kids. Asking where their new ( totally separate from the birthday/apology order was). Ordered with 2 day shipping. On a Thursday night.....
Another one....guy calls me up and says he got his order, but he got someone else's as well. I look up the miss shipped order....300 dollars worth of stuff. I tell him I am going to create a tag for it, when he receives it could he put it on the box and give it to the UPS guy when he shows up to pick it up? The guy says sure but....he lives in Alaska, and has to drive 100 miles to get to a bush pilot to fly to a town to drive to the post office. This is taking place in early December. I pause, and then say, Merry Christmas, keep the stuff. There was no way I was going to make that guy lug a big box through all of that for us. I then rekeyed the order and sent it to the correct address.
Another time a guy calls me up, and asks, if an imperial guardsmen fires a plasmagun and it overheats and fails his save, does he die instantly. I say yes.
He comes on here and posts how dumb GW guys are, because I told him " If you overheat from plasma you can suffer Instand Death."
People should understand shipping.
Like is "4-8 business days" doesnt mean weekends. I bet you wish you could have said some nasty things to her.
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Post by: R3con
candy.man wrote:R3con’s story is simply shocking.
I get the feeling that a decent percentage of GW staff suffer from being too far up on their high horse. As someone who’s been in a couple of customer service jobs (where majority of the clients are rude and unpleasant to deal with), there’s always the temptation of thinking that “you’re better then the customer” which in turns causes a reduction of quality in service.
GW staff appears to suffer from the above as well as buying too much into the corporate spin/marking spin/brain washing and weird policies. From personal experience, I can easily say the best way to deal with a customer (as well as avoid angry clients) is to get down on their level and speak on their terms (as well as ignoring any weird low level policies that may impact with the sale). Use too much marketing/corporate spin, display a superiority complex and or anally follow all the weird policies and you will only drive customers away.
Whats great is one of the FLGS ran out and bought a stool high enough to see the tables for me when he found out, guess where I spend my money?
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Post by: TheRobotLol
Words cannot describe how epic that story was.
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Post by: KGatch113
hotsauceman1 wrote:KGatch113 wrote:
Here are my favorite stories from when I worked Direct Sales at GW HQ in Baltimore.
Lady calls me up asking where her order was. We have a 24-48 packing period, beginning at 8 in the morning on a business day. The lady ordered on a Friday with 2 day shipping, so it would not reach the system until Monday. Except....Monday was New Years Eve. Tuesday was New Years. Weds was a national day of mourning for President Ford. So the order went into the system the following Thursday. Remember...24-48 hour packing period....guess when the order finally got packed? Monday ( first 24 was part of Thursday-Friday, second 24 was Friday-Monday). She needed the order for the following Tuesday ( which would be the day after it shipped).
She flips out, saying we ruined her kids birthday yadda yadda. I try to calm her down. She then says...I'm a lawyer and I can sue you. SOP when someone threatens to sue is to tell them they have to call legal, and end the call, because anything we say or do after that point could be used against the company. I ignore her and proceed to offer her an apology for her bad luck, since we technically did nothing wrong. Refunded her 2 day shipping and sent the child out a High Elf battalion box set and a High Elf army book.
The next week I get a call from her kids. Asking where their new ( totally separate from the birthday/apology order was). Ordered with 2 day shipping. On a Thursday night.....
Another one....guy calls me up and says he got his order, but he got someone else's as well. I look up the miss shipped order....300 dollars worth of stuff. I tell him I am going to create a tag for it, when he receives it could he put it on the box and give it to the UPS guy when he shows up to pick it up? The guy says sure but....he lives in Alaska, and has to drive 100 miles to get to a bush pilot to fly to a town to drive to the post office. This is taking place in early December. I pause, and then say, Merry Christmas, keep the stuff. There was no way I was going to make that guy lug a big box through all of that for us. I then rekeyed the order and sent it to the correct address.
Another time a guy calls me up, and asks, if an imperial guardsmen fires a plasmagun and it overheats and fails his save, does he die instantly. I say yes.
He comes on here and posts how dumb GW guys are, because I told him " If you overheat from plasma you can suffer Instand Death."
People should understand shipping.
Like is "4-8 business days" doesnt mean weekends. I bet you wish you could have said some nasty things to her.
No, I honestly felt bad for her. It was one of those no one's fault situations. The only people I ever had difficulty with were the ones who flipped out over GW stopping the German made Inquistor movie, because of IP problems.
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Post by: Marshal_Gus
Incredible stories... Keep them coming. It makes me so much better about where I play. Luckily there really aren't that many TFGs around Nashville...until you go to larger tournaments where at least 1 seems to always show up.
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Post by: Rimmy
Experiment 626 wrote:Rimmy wrote:my fav was I did a demo game for this kid, maybe 8 or 9. any RS knows demo games the rules are irrelevant, its just to show the premise of the game not the try and teach it to anyone in 2 mins or less.
so I used to apply VERY basic rules to it, and I was REALLY amped on this day, just in a REALLY good mood. so I had arms flailing and explosion noises and pew pew noises and full long names and titles (this was the BFM starter set days so nids and Ultramarines)
this kid was REALLY into it. having a ball. (now having children of my own, I REALLY am glad I made that kid smile, my oldest was 6 months old at the time, she is now 6)
when we were done i'm sweating, the kids got a grin from ear to ear, I looked up and said, SO.... Did you enjoy the game?" kids smiling saying yes, looks at mom, mom looks at me and says he certainly did! "Good! can I interest you in viewing our starter set and maybe brining this excitement home?"
without missing a BEAT his mom looks at me and says "only if you come with it. I haven't seen that much energey in my house since before he was born."
I have never turned so red, IN my life. heat was just eminating off of my face.
I sold them a great starter package, got a big kudos from my manager, and as she's walking out she says, "so you'll be here to play with me when we come back right?.... the game too?"
By the Emporer's hand that actually happenned.
Nice one mate!
We had this one youngster who was similar - I played a demo with him being loud and getting right into it, letting him beat the snot out of the orks. (not hard really when I charge the nobz into 5 marines and miss with all 15 attacks!) His dad is kinda akward asking if I lose on purpose to get his son hooked on the game. The kid is litterly jumping up and down begging his parents to get him the Black Reach set as I'm giving my pitch.
His parents come back a few days later and get him a nice starter bundle for Xmas with the Black Reach set + Academy package. My manager tells me afterwards that his parents asked specifically if I could run their son's classes because he can't wait to 'beat on my orks some more!'
He becomes a regular on sundays for litterly every single mega battle except the few weeks he and his family are on vacation. Last xmas, he started up a new Dark Eldar army, and as we'd recently started carrying the BL novels again, I told his mum about how much I enjoyed the Ultramarines novels, (which are his absolute favourite space marines), and how maybe they could read it together while he's painting/building. She thinks it's a great idea and grabs the omnibus for his stocking!
My manager later tells me that this young fella's mum had told him that this little guy is normally a very quiet, shy kid who litterly never came out of his shell untill he met me and the rest of the staff the year before. But ever since this little guy started playing 40k with his Ultramarines, when he's in our store he'd be a totally different person and had learned alot of valuable people skills and even gained some new friends.
It honestly brought a tear to my eye as we sat back and realised how huge an effect 5 of us staff had had on this little guy.
Man I miss our store... Sure God was constantly trying to kill us and all, but it was good times and I always enjoyed running those demos!
for all the hate that red shirts take, when you get moments like this, (I was fortunate to have more than a few) it really doesn't matter.
yea we sold some products sure, but we also sold products we ACTUALLY enjoyed playing and doing, so its not just selling something, its sharing things too. sounds sappy, but its the biggest and best part of being part of it.
damnit, now I want to go back to work there again LOL! just for the entertainment (although as I say that, you'd have a hard time believing what my normal full time job is, trust me, i'm not in a low level job LOL)
back on topic, horror stories from GW, are not having people see the GOOD moments (and there are plenty) and moron and jerk-hoff shirts that take away form it all. Automatically Appended Next Post: TheRobotLol wrote:Words cannot describe how epic that story was.
(edited the long story out for conservationist sake)
completely agree'd. honestly I'm surprised the guy wasn't arrested for lude and lescivious acts with a minor at that point.
thankfully we never had to deal with anything like that. I broke up a would be fight over a game going on, sore loser and a winner with smug attitude and a big mouth. always makes for bad company.
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Post by: Frazzled
R3con wrote:I'm a disabled vet, both knees are missing pieces, ankle is fused, but hey I got cool scars.
I asked manager A if I could use a painting stool at a gaming table due to my issues, he said no problem have at it.
Manager A leaves and Manager B comes in mid game and starts yelling at me for sitting on a stool I calmly explain that my legs are fethed, and he states that a rule is a rule and anyone could say that. The other 3 guys I'm with say no he was in the Marines and his legs are fethed and all scared up. Manager B demands to see the scars to prove it, I pull up one pant leg show him where my tibia and fibula decided to exit stage left and pop through my skin. And pointed out where they put bone from my hips back into my leg on the other side. He said "oh well you can use the stool then" I calmly thanked him packed up and left. I have not set foot into a GWS since.
Agreed thats shocking. Thats not just a letter but a phone call to higher ups and a potential discussion with an attorney. I'm thinking there may be laws that were violated. Automatically Appended Next Post: Che-Vito wrote:My issue is with n0t_u saying that talking about lesbians (without defining whether the speech was demeaning or not.) is unacceptable because children were around.
America promises certain rights, and needs to promise equal 'rights' to those that don't have them. Use 'privileges' if the word suits you better; but your attempt at a jaded comment comes off as worse than uneducated.
You're misperceiving my intent and I think we're actually on the same page. I'm not tolerative of people in real life making fun of homosexuals, unless its a comedy club. I almost had a knock drown drag out fight in a church about said topic. Automatically Appended Next Post: boyd wrote:Che-Vito wrote:n0t_u wrote:Someone started talking to me about lesbians, I was asked to leave[i] (there were kids around) [/i]with them despite them being the only one talking and me try to politely distance myself...
You know, you'd likely never be asked to leave a store for talking about heterosexual people.
If there are kids around, they can deal.
I might be going out on a limb here but when a group of young adolescent males get together and talk about lesbians, its not about their rights or how they are not allowed to get married. Something tells me it had nothing to do with their orientation but the activities they were engaging in. If you were to talk about two or more heterosexual people engaging in the same acts with children present it still wouldn't make the conversation appropriate. Why would graphic discussions about coitus be appropriate around minors?
What this guy. A bunch of teenagers making stupid jokes and conversations are, well, stupid.
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Post by: Grimtuff
master of ordinance wrote:Recently i caught up with a freind at Harlequins.
He has apparently been banned from our local GW for making a formal complaint. WWWWHHHHAAATTTT!!!!
turned out some kid had accidentialy walked of with his £200 chaos dwarf FW army(it was an honest mistake) so the staff asked him to leave as he had nothing to do so he made a complaint against the staff member.
so the manager banned him for it....
And he hasn't escalated this because...?
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Post by: Rimmy
Frazzled wrote:R3con wrote:I'm a disabled vet, both knees are missing pieces, ankle is fused, but hey I got cool scars.
I asked manager A if I could use a painting stool at a gaming table due to my issues, he said no problem have at it.
Manager A leaves and Manager B comes in mid game and starts yelling at me for sitting on a stool I calmly explain that my legs are fethed, and he states that a rule is a rule and anyone could say that. The other 3 guys I'm with say no he was in the Marines and his legs are fethed and all scared up. Manager B demands to see the scars to prove it, I pull up one pant leg show him where my tibia and fibula decided to exit stage left and pop through my skin. And pointed out where they put bone from my hips back into my leg on the other side. He said "oh well you can use the stool then" I calmly thanked him packed up and left. I have not set foot into a GWS since.
Agreed thats shocking. Thats not just a letter but a phone call to higher ups and a potential discussion with an attorney. I'm thinking there may be laws that were violated.
so since I work in an area that requires ADA compliance, I WILL say that it depends first on the country you are in. obviously the Americans with Disabilities Act doesn't apply in Great Britian.
but if this was a US, he could have shown him some type of form, and it is NOT illegal to request validation of a disability, nor is it illegal to deny someone special accommodations without said identification.
I also happen to be a disabled vet (though not as bad and not with ANY type of cool story behind it), AND I work for the VA, so i'm pretty up on the laws here.
I keep my handicap paper placard in my wallet for just such occasions.
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Post by: Frazzled
Gotcha. Alternatively, rampaging through there with a bunch of friend or vicious attack chewienies (a horrible breeding of chihuahas and wiener dogs, much like Saruman's orks, but worse) would be appropriate.
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Post by: Ma55ter_fett
Frazzled wrote:Gotcha. Alternatively, rampaging through there with a bunch of friend or vicious attack chewienies (a horrible breeding of chihuahas and wiener dogs, much like Saruman's orks, but worse) would be appropriate.
Science! What have your wrought?
EDIT
Look at how sharp those front claws are, and with ears like those you can never hide.
They can hear your fear!
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Post by: Vampirate of Sartosa
FifteenHours wrote:To be honest, if you are going to use the "...eating a Mcdonalds burger in a Burger King.." analogy, then technically if you are painting a non-GW product with GW paints in a GW-store, it is like buying a Mcdonald's burger and then going to Burger King to buy the fries, and eating both in the Burger King.
...And I guess that using 3rd party bitz on a model is like going to a supermarket, getting some sort of sauce that isn't sold in either shop, and putting it on your Burger King burger before you eat it in Burger King? Yeah, I guess that works.
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Post by: kronk
Vampirate of Sartosa wrote:FifteenHours wrote:To be honest, if you are going to use the "...eating a Mcdonalds burger in a Burger King.." analogy, then technically if you are painting a non-GW product with GW paints in a GW-store, it is like buying a Mcdonald's burger and then going to Burger King to buy the fries, and eating both in the Burger King.
...And I guess that using 3rd party bitz on a model is like going to a supermarket, getting some sort of sauce that isn't sold in either shop, and putting it on your Burger King burger before you eat it in Burger King?
Yeah, I guess that works.
These analogies are making me hungry. Stop it!
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Post by: hotsauceman1
Ma55ter_fett wrote:Frazzled wrote:Gotcha. Alternatively, rampaging through there with a bunch of friend or vicious attack chewienies (a horrible breeding of chihuahas and wiener dogs, much like Saruman's orks, but worse) would be appropriate.
Science! What have your wrought?
EDIT
Look at how sharp those front claws are, and with ears like those you can never hide.
They can hear your fear!
Oh god, i want one.
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Post by: Howard A Treesong
I hope Justin and Nicole are still together, I felt like I got to know them well after reading that.
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Post by: TheRobotLol
hotsauceman1 wrote:Ma55ter_fett wrote:Frazzled wrote:Gotcha. Alternatively, rampaging through there with a bunch of friend or vicious attack chewienies (a horrible breeding of chihuahas and wiener dogs, much like Saruman's orks, but worse) would be appropriate.
Science! What have your wrought?
EDIT
Look at how sharp those front claws are, and with ears like those you can never hide.
They can hear your fear!
Oh god, i want one.
THEY CAN HEAR YOU FEAR. There is no escape. Ever.
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Post by: timetowaste85
Well, after my second trip to a GW, my biggest horror story from GW was them offering to sell me stuff-and...I'm pretty sure that's their job. Lol. My GW experiences have been great. FLGS though...shudder. Yu Gi Oh kids who smell like an open sewer, steal things from the store, and refuse to ever buy anything, Magic players who crowd warhammer tables, smell almost as bad as the YGO kids and refuse to let warhammer players game on OUR tournament days and the owner saying "The Magic players are in the right, go hide in the back room. How dare you call them out for stinking!" Yeah...favoritism and douche-baggery.
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Post by: Cannerus_The_Unbearable
Generally speaking, Magic players pay the bills while wargamers use the same armies over and over. I know it's completely true down here.
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Post by: odorofdeath
Yeah, Magic is actually a LOT more expensive than Warhammer if you want to be competitive, since the sets are constantly rotating.
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Post by: sharkticon
Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:Generally speaking, Magic players pay the bills while wargamers use the same armies over and over. I know it's completely true down here.
This.
At my local FLGS, YGO and Magic players pay the bills. The wargamers sort of act like volunteer staff to do our part (paint terrain, cover the till when the clerk needs to use the bathroom, help customers find stuff), but the CCG players bring in the big money.
They also have the good grace to buy their stuff and leave, giving the wargamers the limited table space
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Post by: TheFatElf
Well, once I ran out of things to do at a GW store, so I asked one of the staff if I could paint one of the starter modles that they kept in a tub for painting lessons. This store is really small, and I've only ever seen about 5-6 people in there on it's busier days, so there was no major demand for painting lessons. The staff guy said it was fine, and let me paint away..until the manager came over. He started questioning me about why I was painting one of "his" miniatures and not my own, and gave me a lecture on how bad this seemingly grand crime was. I was almost asked to leave, but the managers girlfriend and all the others stuck up for me and I was allowed to stay.
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Post by: Rimmy
sharkticon wrote:Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:Generally speaking, Magic players pay the bills while wargamers use the same armies over and over. I know it's completely true down here.
This.
At my local FLGS, YGO and Magic players pay the bills. The wargamers sort of act like volunteer staff to do our part (paint terrain, cover the till when the clerk needs to use the bathroom, help customers find stuff), but the CCG players bring in the big money.
They also have the good grace to buy their stuff and leave, giving the wargamers the limited table space
maybe where you are. CCG players tend to hang out where I am.
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Post by: timetowaste85
Rimmy wrote:sharkticon wrote:Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:Generally speaking, Magic players pay the bills while wargamers use the same armies over and over. I know it's completely true down here.
This.
At my local FLGS, YGO and Magic players pay the bills. The wargamers sort of act like volunteer staff to do our part (paint terrain, cover the till when the clerk needs to use the bathroom, help customers find stuff), but the CCG players bring in the big money.
They also have the good grace to buy their stuff and leave, giving the wargamers the limited table space
maybe where you are. CCG players tend to hang out where I am.
+a million to this. The card players never leave. And neither does the smell
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Post by: Frankenberry
Had an instance at the LGS in my home town, before I moved.
So, when Warmachine first appeared in the LGS everyone was going crazy over it. Myself and several friends included (cover rules that make sense!), so naturally tournaments and game days were held. After getting the rules down and running our own games for awhile, me and the 'crew' (two friends with jobs, lol) decide to try out a tournament day.
Most of the day was a blast, the PP guys running the thing were brothers and made the whole experience one worth repeating.
Now, I say most...well, they had to eat some time right? They tell us that they're gonna duck out for some grub and to just play the next round. We're cool with that, seeing as how everyone I've played thus far I know to some degree, and a friend of mine who's been eliminated decides to keep the record of wins...yadda yadda yadda.
I end up doing a 2v2 with this super-quiet guy Dave (he squeaked at me when I greeted him.) and his friends, a gf/bf combo.
We play out a couple turns, and when it gets down to the brawling, my Khador and Dave's Menoth are tearing ass all over the place.
Note: Seriously. This is probably the only game where my models did anything. I sucked.
Now I've noticed that the bf/gf combo don't really mesh tactically. It's not for everyone, I get that. She's playing Cryx and he's playing Mercs...interesting combo right? After a pretty hellacious bout of combat the guy turns to her:
Him: Did I say to *insert buff/attack here* that squad? No. I didn't.
Her: Yeah...you said you wanted to...
Him: No, I didn't. God you're so stupid sometimes. Seriously, we're losing because you suck so bad.
Her: But...I'm the only one who killed anything in combat...
(note: this is true. his mercs were squared off against my Khador...and I wiped him out.)
Now, I snorted when she came back with that. Even man-mouse Dave chuckled. But homeslice mc-bfski didn't like his woman talking back like that. So, before you could say "Instant Death" he'd smacked her right across the face.
To her credit she took the hit well, didn't gasp or cry out. She just held her face and stared at her lap.
Him: Who's doing better in combat now?
I kid you not, I considered laughing when he said that.
Dave, up until this point had been a pretty meek little guy. Nodded furiously with any decision I'd made tactically and offered little in the way of banter...which kinda sucks given that I'm such an out going dude. But when the slap went down and the guy through out the smug line about combat, I think something might've snapped in little Dave.
To this day I've never seen someone go from docile to murderous that quick.
As it turns out, Dave had a thing for the gf. So when cockbite BF laid the smackdown, Dave jumped across the table, Avatar in hand and started to beat wholesale ass.
I think the greatest part of that entire encounter was when the PP guys came back and saw the fight. One of them turned to me and said, "Let me guess. One of those guys is the winner, right?"
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Post by: Benamint
Good on Dave's part! D-bag bf got his just desserts!
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Post by: timetowaste85
Benamint wrote:Good on Dave's part! D-bag bf got his just desserts!
Hear hear!! Now, did Dave get the girl?
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Post by: Asherian Command
I remember this one time while I was in the store.
This kid who was extremely wealthy (Freaking Lake County kids have everything) had 300 grey knights, and a ton of ultramarines. Thunderhawks, warhounds, land raiders, everything that a space marine player would want. And would never actually need. Was bragging about how he had so many points. Being the good natured kid I was I just looked at it shook my head and I left the store, knowing that other people wanted to use those tables. He took up 3 tables to build his army thing. And then this other kid (younger than me) walked up to the table and said "that ain't store appropriate." He flipped the table... The guy's models smashed against the ground. Now the store manager looked at this in shock and said "Who wants to help me build this?"
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Post by: Samus_aran115
Asherian Command wrote:I remember this one time while I was in the store.
This kid who was extremely wealthy (Freaking Lake County kids have everything) had 300 grey knights, and a ton of ultramarines. Thunderhawks, warhounds, land raiders, everything that a space marine player would want. And would never actually need. Was bragging about how he had so many points. Being the good natured kid I was I just looked at it shook my head and I left the store, knowing that other people wanted to use those tables. He took up 3 tables to build his army thing. And then this other kid (younger than me) walked up to the table and said "that ain't store appropriate." He flipped the table... The guy's models smashed against the ground. Now the store manager looked at this in shock and said "Who wants to help me build this?"
...What. Really? Holy cow.
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Post by: Asherian Command
Samus_aran115 wrote:Asherian Command wrote:I remember this one time while I was in the store.
This kid who was extremely wealthy (Freaking Lake County kids have everything) had 300 grey knights, and a ton of ultramarines. Thunderhawks, warhounds, land raiders, everything that a space marine player would want. And would never actually need. Was bragging about how he had so many points. Being the good natured kid I was I just looked at it shook my head and I left the store, knowing that other people wanted to use those tables. He took up 3 tables to build his army thing. And then this other kid (younger than me) walked up to the table and said "that ain't store appropriate." He flipped the table... The guy's models smashed against the ground. Now the store manager looked at this in shock and said "Who wants to help me build this?"
...What. Really? Holy cow.
Yeah. I think the kid deserved it. He was poor sport. first game i had against him, i popped open his land raider. he raged quit. It was one hell of a lucky shot my multimelta guy must of been laughing his arse off.
I have worst stories.
I was at my FLGS, and we were having a game night. Now I loved them but after this one I stopped coming to my FLGS. So this douche canoe decided to make a list with three land raiders. Now this wasn't too big of a problem... But it was 2,000 points. Each one of them was allowed to have a squad inside. Now what was inside of these lovelys.... Was something horrible.... two stern guards in one. With all combi meltas and melta guns. And he had several scout squads which were extremely cheap. This list fethed with me. As it was vechile spam with razorbacks with plasma-las.
My army as always was a footslogger. And his army was specifically aiming for that. I had no chance.
But what really made me mad was that everyone had a vechile list. Except for me and another guy. But the other guy... Had the best list. 3rd Ed Chaos Space Marines. And our Manager allowed this. Abosutle cheese. But lovely as hell. He wreaked everyone else till he faced the land raider guy. My friend with the 3rd chaos space marines lost. But only lost due to one bad roll. (his daemon prince killed himself.)
I refused from then on to face vechile players. Then I went in with my fully teched out army of razorbacks and beat the kid at his own game except with my flavor added too it. Instead of sternguard I had dreadnoughts. And a master of the forge... And 6 dreadnoughts.... in Drop pods.... in annihaltion game. Revenge is so oh so sweet.
I have two others but i want to read other people's stories.
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
That's not really a horror story. That's just you beating someone.
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Post by: spyguyyoda
timetowaste85 wrote:Benamint wrote:Good on Dave's part! D-bag bf got his just desserts!
Hear hear!! Now, did Dave get the girl?
+ a bazillion. Seriously, a bazillion. When you say "Dave", do you really mean "Clark Kent"?
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Post by: Benamint
spyguyyoda wrote:timetowaste85 wrote:Benamint wrote:Good on Dave's part! D-bag bf got his just desserts!
Hear hear!! Now, did Dave get the girl?
+ a bazillion. Seriously, a bazillion. When you say "Dave", do you really mean "Clark Kent"?
Seriously.... I dunno some of these stories make me kinda mad or sick. Here I am a CRJS major and I need a clean record to get into the force. If I witnessed a girl getting slapped or my gf got groped (as said in an earlier post) I think I'd have to change career paths.... Cause I'd definetly have to do something..... unkind to such people.... I have utmost respect for women and it really ticks me off to hear about ladies being slapped around. That's when an actual man needs to step in and adjust the offender's ideas on such a topic
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Post by: hotsauceman1
I would have quit the game and call in a domestic disturbance to the police.
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Post by: Ma55ter_fett
hotsauceman1 wrote:I would have quit the game and call in a domestic disturbance to the police.
Or put on your smoothest Berry White impression and say,
"Hey baby, why you hanging with this looser? Come over here and I'll treat you right everyday of every week of every year."
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Post by: timetowaste85
Ma55ter_fett wrote:hotsauceman1 wrote:I would have quit the game and call in a domestic disturbance to the police.
Or put on your smoothest Berry White impression and say,
"Hey baby, why you hanging with this looser? Come over here and I'll treat you right everyday of every week of every year."
Fett, I gotta tell you, I watch your signature picture about 5 times through, every time you post. It's...wonderful...
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Post by: Happygrunt
Am I the only one who feels guilty while reading the "otherside of the counter stories"? I go through them seeing if I have done any of the stuff they complain about, and I end up having done most of it. Whole new list of things not to do.
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Post by: poda_t
This thread is starting to disgust me. Every time I think that my opinion of humanity has hit a low, somehow, i discover that i was merely resting on a precarious ledge on my long fall down, before it gave out and spilled me onto a lower ledge still... I'm starting to think not only do we need licenses for parenting, but licenses for the right to live.
The fact that the chick Dave (see bottom of page five of this thread) went to protect didn't call or cry out when she was hit is merely an indication that it really wasn't the first time, and wasn't going to be the last time either. I hope that that gak stain on the backside of society failed his armor save, and his reanimation protocol. Permanently.
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Post by: timetowaste85
poda_t wrote:This thread is starting to disgust me. Every time I think that my opinion of humanity has hit a low, somehow, i discover that i was merely resting on a precarious ledge on my long fall down, before it gave out and spilled me onto a lower ledge still... I'm starting to think not only do we need licenses for parenting, but licenses for the right to live.
The fact that the chick Dave (see bottom of page five of this thread) went to protect didn't call or cry out when she was hit is merely an indication that it really wasn't the first time, and wasn't going to be the last time either. I hope that that gak stain on the backside of society failed his armor save, and his reanimation protocol. Permanently.
I've been saying this for years...and everyone accuses me of being a type of Neo-Nazi. I feel all people should attend a parenting class and receive a satisfactory score by a certain time in their life or be rendered sterile-if you can't take care of kids, you shouldn't have them. And should you have a child before taking this class, since we know teen pregnancy is common, you must immediately take the course and if failed, the child must be put up for adoption for a good home. Everyone says it's wrong and shouldn't be controlled-if it was controlled, we'd have less abused/abandoned children and most would grow up with respect for society, because the parents would be forced into knowing how to correctly raise their children. Whether they follow is not a guarantee, but at least they are forced to have the tools available to them. I can't believe desiring it for the right reasons meets so much hatred...and Dave's opponent would be an example of someone sterilized in my vision-if not non-existent, depending on his parents ability. I prepare for the flames against me for this...but keep in mind, I only say it for the right reasons, for the benefits of kids to not deal with crappy parents who don't deserve them.
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Post by: poda_t
It's not just that but the wealthy people. They feel like they own everything and that everything is allowed to them (this thread seems to only confirm my point) Meanwhile our family broke our backs carving ourselves space out after immigrating to canada. Not an easy task for 40 ear olds with 3 kids. Especially when said parents have a communist education (which aparantly makes them sub-human snot...). Fortunately things went well for us and I get all kinds of stares for the stuff i try to save and salvage. Hell, if i can make a pair of jeans last 6-12 months longer, I will patch the hell out of them. Also, why I hate that everything in stores these days comes conveniently pre-ripped, so you only really have to wear it for 3 months instead of 3 years before its destroyed.
/end random rant
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Post by: hotsauceman1
Lol, I read to story wrong and thought Dave was the guy who hit his GF.
I thought
"why the heck is everyone agreeing with the abuser?
And i am familiar with the entitlement thing.
I have a good life and i work my butt off to make sure i keep it. I got alot of breaks in life and i take advantage of them ALL because those arent free(except the grants, those are)
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Post by: Frankenberry
Yeah, that whole experience reminded me of the golden life rule: "There are only two kinds of people in the world, donkey-caves and good guys."
As it happened Dave only got the guy a couple times in his ratty-looking face but I think he got his point across. As for the couple? I only ever saw her after that. She'd come in for the occasional Warmachine game with Dave in tow. I never asked if they'd actual become an item, only because they were always together...so, in the interest of a happy ending, we'll say Dave got the girl.
As for the guy? I heard he pulled a nerd rage at a shop a town over from me, and I heard this 34th hand so it could be crap. But apparently, he flipped out during a game, broke some stuff and after the assembled gamers roflstomped him, he ended up getting arrested.
I'm firmly convinced karma was all over this guy like gak on velcro.
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Post by: Grimtuff
spyguyyoda wrote:timetowaste85 wrote:Benamint wrote:Good on Dave's part! D-bag bf got his just desserts!
Hear hear!! Now, did Dave get the girl?
+ a bazillion. Seriously, a bazillion. When you say "Dave", do you really mean "Orsus Zoktavir"?
Fixed that for you.
Dave should've been playing Khador. Everyone knows the Butcher of Khardov will END you if you lay a hand on a woman. 
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Post by: Frazzled
poda_t wrote:This thread is starting to disgust me. Every time I think that my opinion of humanity has hit a low, somehow, i discover that i was merely resting on a precarious ledge on my long fall down, before it gave out and spilled me onto a lower ledge still... I'm starting to think not only do we need licenses for parenting, but licenses for the right to live.
The fact that the chick Dave (see bottom of page five of this thread) went to protect didn't call or cry out when she was hit is merely an indication that it really wasn't the first time, and wasn't going to be the last time either. I hope that that gak stain on the backside of society failed his armor save, and his reanimation protocol. Permanently.
Wait you mean massed starvation, multiple wars, genocide, and Lady Gaga didn't do it for you, but stories about shennigans in GW did? 
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Post by: Murdock129
I have a story similar to the Dave one (kinda)
There was a match I was in guy and girl playing a match of warhammer fantasy, his Daemons against her Empire (and on a side note, she was really good). It was a large game with reinforcements, and he was bragging the whole time when his Keeper of the Secrets got on the board nothing would stop it.
When he pulled the Forge World model out she basically turned her entire cannon battery on it and slaughtered it in one turn, causing a good bit of laughing as a result from us spectators.
You could almost see him turning an unplesant shade of purple in rage before he stepped round, pretending to be looking over one combat. He then reached out and lunged at the girl, who was standing next to our local redshit, who proceeded to step in.
Now I can't say the guy's name as I can't spell it (He's Polish), but he's about seven foot tall, has bulging muscles and used to be a semi-professional wrestler.
Within moments he had the guy on the floor , held down with his arms behind his back, ordering us to pack up the guy's army while he held hiim down, before dragging him out of the store and half pushing, half throwing him onto the street before blacklisting the guy.
He's definitely the most badass Red Shirt I've ever seen, even if he can be really scary
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Post by: Balance
Asherian Command wrote:Samus_aran115 wrote:Asherian Command wrote:I remember this one time while I was in the store.
This kid who was extremely wealthy (Freaking Lake County kids have everything) had 300 grey knights, and a ton of ultramarines. Thunderhawks, warhounds, land raiders, everything that a space marine player would want. And would never actually need. Was bragging about how he had so many points. Being the good natured kid I was I just looked at it shook my head and I left the store, knowing that other people wanted to use those tables. He took up 3 tables to build his army thing. And then this other kid (younger than me) walked up to the table and said "that ain't store appropriate." He flipped the table... The guy's models smashed against the ground. Now the store manager looked at this in shock and said "Who wants to help me build this?"
...What. Really? Holy cow.
Yeah. I think the kid deserved it. He was poor sport. first game i had against him, i popped open his land raider. he raged quit. It was one hell of a lucky shot my multimelta guy must of been laughing his arse off.
While the kid with a ton of stuff may have been a horrible person, I don't personally feel that excuses breaking his stuff. Don't play him, ask him to free up a couple tables, as the manager to intercede if the kid refuses, but don't break stuff for no reason.
Maybe he'd be nicer if someone would play the game properly with him? I remember some kids at game stores who assumed the ruels were both "Kill'em all" as the only scenario, and that anything you could put on the table was valid (no point limits, essentially) which led to some bad behavior.
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Post by: timetowaste85
Balance wrote:Asherian Command wrote:Samus_aran115 wrote:Asherian Command wrote:I remember this one time while I was in the store.
This kid who was extremely wealthy (Freaking Lake County kids have everything) had 300 grey knights, and a ton of ultramarines. Thunderhawks, warhounds, land raiders, everything that a space marine player would want. And would never actually need. Was bragging about how he had so many points. Being the good natured kid I was I just looked at it shook my head and I left the store, knowing that other people wanted to use those tables. He took up 3 tables to build his army thing. And then this other kid (younger than me) walked up to the table and said "that ain't store appropriate." He flipped the table... The guy's models smashed against the ground. Now the store manager looked at this in shock and said "Who wants to help me build this?"
...What. Really? Holy cow.
Yeah. I think the kid deserved it. He was poor sport. first game i had against him, i popped open his land raider. he raged quit. It was one hell of a lucky shot my multimelta guy must of been laughing his arse off.
While the kid with a ton of stuff may have been a horrible person, I don't personally feel that excuses breaking his stuff. Don't play him, ask him to free up a couple tables, as the manager to intercede if the kid refuses, but don't break stuff for no reason.
Maybe he'd be nicer if someone would play the game properly with him? I remember some kids at game stores who assumed the ruels were both "Kill'em all" as the only scenario, and that anything you could put on the table was valid (no point limits, essentially) which led to some bad behavior.
I think you misunderstand (that or I do). The kid who OWNED the models flipped the table when he found out he couldn't use his shiny, expensive toys in a legitimate game, not the kid who told him they weren't valid. Then he stormed out and the manager decided to keep the stuff put together in a case. I'm sure he'd return them if the kid came back...but if the kid never returned, I'd call it a donation. But yeah, the kid sounded like a schmuck.
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Post by: Balance
Ah, if the kid wrecked his owns tuff that's a diferent story. SOme pronoun issues in Ahserian's post: I assumed that Rich Kid had hi stuff out on three tables, and Other Younger Kid flipped them... And left the poor store manager looking at having to help clean up or replace the broken stuff somehow.
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Post by: timetowaste85
Yeah, the writing is a bit off-I had to read it two or three times to get the jist of it, but I did a student teaching stint in grad school as a 7th grade English teacher-I was eventually able to sort it out
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Post by: pretre
timetowaste85 wrote:I think you misunderstand (that or I do). The kid who OWNED the models flipped the table when he found out he couldn't use his shiny, expensive toys in a legitimate game, not the kid who told him they weren't valid. Then he stormed out and the manager decided to keep the stuff put together in a case. I'm sure he'd return them if the kid came back...but if the kid never returned, I'd call it a donation. But yeah, the kid sounded like a schmuck.
It still doesn't make sense. So one kid comes back and says 'you can't use that' so he throws the table and breaks thousands of dollars of models? Yeah... Citation needed.
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Post by: timetowaste85
pretre wrote:timetowaste85 wrote:I think you misunderstand (that or I do). The kid who OWNED the models flipped the table when he found out he couldn't use his shiny, expensive toys in a legitimate game, not the kid who told him they weren't valid. Then he stormed out and the manager decided to keep the stuff put together in a case. I'm sure he'd return them if the kid came back...but if the kid never returned, I'd call it a donation. But yeah, the kid sounded like a schmuck.
It still doesn't make sense. So one kid comes back and says 'you can't use that' so he throws the table and breaks thousands of dollars of models? Yeah... Citation needed.
Well, remember from the story-the kid had no appreciation/understanding of value-just had a bunch of toys that his parents probably bought him, and he thought nothing of it. I'd say it's plausible for a rich kid with no understanding of the value of a dollar to go 'Hulk-smash' on his own stuff.
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Post by: pretre
timetowaste85 wrote:pretre wrote:It still doesn't make sense. So one kid comes back and says 'you can't use that' so he throws the table and breaks thousands of dollars of models? Yeah... Citation needed.
Well, remember from the story-the kid had no appreciation/understanding of value-just had a bunch of toys that his parents probably bought him, and he thought nothing of it. I'd say it's plausible for a rich kid with no understanding of the value of a dollar to go 'Hulk-smash' on his own stuff.
Maybe I am too much of an optimist, but even a rich spoiled kid isn't stupid. Not to mention that even if he had no concept of a dollar, unless he has his butler assemble all of them, he is going to have a concept of time spent. That many models take a LONG time to assemble. No one is just going to toss a table that took them hundreds of hours to build.
If we were talking an AOBR set or something, yeah. "300 grey knights, and a ton of ultramarines. Thunderhawks, warhounds, land raiders, everything that a space marine player would want. " No one puts that much crap together and tosses it. Is it possible? Sure, but extremely unlikely.
Not to pick on AC, but combined with the confusing way the narrative is told, I'm gonna go with 'tall tale'.
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Post by: Lordhat
Balance wrote:Ah, if the kid wrecked his owns tuff that's a diferent story. SOme pronoun issues in Ahserian's post: I assumed that Rich Kid had hi stuff out on three tables, and Other Younger Kid flipped them... And left the poor store manager looking at having to help clean up or replace the broken stuff somehow.
That is exactly how it read to me too.
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Post by: hotsauceman1
That story. What an entitled punk.
I remember when i had to trek throuh 15 miles of snow both ways just to get paint that would freeze on its way back. and when models where made for ya and you just had a picture, chisel and a plastic block. Kids these days are so luck.
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Post by: Ovion
To be fair, I've known plenty of brattish kids that are like that.
I forget the exact circumstances or why, but this one kid I knew, his parents would get him anything he wanted was told he couldn't go somewhere or do something till later on or the next day, but he wanted whatever it was there and then, so he through a hissy fit, flung his shiny new playstation across the room smashing it.
So the kids parents bought him a new one.
Then there's the neurotic ones, who get told they're doing it wrong / can't do that / can't succeed and throw a fit, discarding whatever it was.
Knew a girl (about 13-14) who played yugioh, put together a fire deck, she put loads of restrictions on how it was gonna be, had to be THESE cards, in THIS way, drawing heavily from the show as inspiration, spent months and a lot of money putting this deck together how she wanted it and it's full of rare and shiny cards.
She gets told it's not gonna work - but she's got X monsters with over 3000 atk it must be awesome!
So she gets her ass handed to her 5 games in a row over an afternoon, first time using it since she finished putting it together.
So she screams about how awful she is, how she sucks, how everyone else cheats and uses overpowered cards and is horrible / mean even though we've spent a significant amount of time trying to help her and tought her to paly, and throws her deck out the window - storming off never to be seen again.
Never undersestimate the idiocy of the average spoilt brat.
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Post by: hotsauceman1
Especially with games the require skill to actually win at.
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Post by: odorofdeath
I have no hope of coming close to some of the stories in this thread, but I figure I'll share a few of my own.
1. While playing at a tournament in Gencon many years ago, my FLGS owner was matched up against a beautiful Iron Warriors army... the owner was playing Nurgle. Long story short, the Iron Warriors guy got destroyed, and in a fit of anger, heaved a Land Raider at the wall.
2. One of my high school acquaintances was a guy who played Tau and Guard. Once during a particularly bad beating with Tau, his Broadside kept missing so much that he became enraged, and ripped the head off said Broadside, threw it onto the floor, and pounded it into the carpet.
Other than that, my gaming experience has been relatively free of drama.
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Post by: TheRobotLol
Wow.
Anyway, down in my FLGS, there was this ine kid called david. He was about 18 when this happened. Him, his girlfriend, her friend and me, a playing a 4-way game of 40k. I have mah trusty nurgle forces, David has his chaos slaneesh/tzeentch army. His GF has her dark eldar army, and her friend has her blood angels SM army.
All goes well and the game is long, but fun, and also very tense. Then it happens. On one of my turns, my triplet obliterator squad gets all very good shots with their twin-linked meltagun arms and trash his land raider and in the next turn, his predator. He goes APE all over the store and puntches his own models THROUGH THE TABLE, Before flipping the table and running out. Everyone is shocked (obviously). He is also to this day a lot more angry at me also, because on that day he wrecked his GF and her friend's models, and I, YES ME, got his girfriend, and to this day we still go out.
VICTORY
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Post by: pretre
Damn, where do you find these people? Geeze. I can't imagine intentionally trying to damage my models because I lost a game...
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Post by: poda_t
Frazzled wrote:poda_t wrote:This thread is starting to disgust me. Every time I think that my opinion of humanity has hit a low, somehow, i discover that i was merely resting on a precarious ledge on my long fall down, before it gave out and spilled me onto a lower ledge still... I'm starting to think not only do we need licenses for parenting, but licenses for the right to live.
The fact that the chick Dave (see bottom of page five of this thread) went to protect didn't call or cry out when she was hit is merely an indication that it really wasn't the first time, and wasn't going to be the last time either. I hope that that gak stain on the backside of society failed his armor save, and his reanimation protocol. Permanently.
Wait you mean massed starvation, multiple wars, genocide, and Lady Gaga didn't do it for you, but stories about shennigans in GW did?
those have done it for me too, i just sigusting to see how badly a person's ego rides on a fething game. Honestly, for a while i was doing so bad I didn't care if i won or lost, and actually went back and doublechecked every rule trying to see where it was i cheated when I did win. It's a bloody fething game, and people are getting this worked up about it??!?!?! I want to see how these people break down in their real lives when the defacation hits the oscillator... I want to see these people when real things happen in their lives, when they get fired, when they can't pay the bills, when the bank reposesses every penny they should never have owned....
On that note as another irrelevant aside, I am one of those crazy, useless, backwards unwanted communist bastard pricks who firmly believes that you shouldn't spend more than $500 your dogs recovery (after $500 you can buy another dog...). people who spend $2000 or more on their dogs recovery, when that dog is 13+ years old, and say with pride they saved their dogs life, deserve to be shot. To me, that frivolous waste of money is a criminal disregard for human life. lets say there are 10'000 people who spend that way in my city. that would mean $20 million that could have gone towards the homeless, to africa, or asia.... but no, its $20 million spent on extending the life of an animal who can't control its own bowel movements anymore, has gone blind and deaf and gone lazy... Being attached to a pet is one thing, but turning it into a medical experiment at the expense of your fellow man is just disgusting.
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Post by: Lordhat
The last time I fielded a psyker in 40k (while I was an employee at the the FLGS), my terminator libby suffered a perils on my first attempt to use a psychic power, and failed his save and died. Note that this was the fifth game in a row that this exact scenario occured. I immediately offered a free soda to the first person to bring me a hammer. One was retrieved from a car trunk forthwith, we all went outside, and that model proceeded to become a librarian shaped metal pancake about 1/8 thick, much to the cheering of the rest of the store.
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Post by: Baalirock
Lordhat wrote:The last time I fielded a psyker in 40k (while I was an employee at the the FLGS), my terminator libby suffered a perils on my first attempt to use a psychic power, and failed his save and died. Note that this was the fifth game in a row that this exact scenario occured. I immediately offered a free soda to the first person to bring me a hammer. One was retrieved from a car trunk forthwith, we all went outside, and that model proceeded to become a librarian shaped metal pancake about 1/8 thick, much to the cheering of the rest of the store.
Yeah, I think I would have been more inclined to flatten my dice than my model. Maybe I'm just crazy.
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Post by: Frazzled
On that note as another irrelevant aside, I am one of those crazy, useless, backwards unwanted communist bastard pricks who firmly believes that you shouldn't spend more than $500 your dogs recovery (after $500 you can buy another dog...). people who spend $2000 or more on their dogs recovery, when that dog is 13+ years old, and say with pride they saved their dogs life, deserve to be shot.
I've spent more than $500 on TBone alone and would gladly pay more than that. Would you like to shoot me? I'll be your Huckleberry.  I keed I keed... On the positive I agree with your communist ways and wouldn't spend a cheap penny for your life.
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Post by: poda_t
@Frazzled
before things get out of hand, i do have a pair of dogs, so it's not like im speaking from a standpoint without experience. We've had dogs when I was still in eastblockia (all sorts of animals in fact) and our neighbor poisoned our doberman and shot our kittens (shot them on his property and buried them in ours). I do understand the willingness to keep that pet alive, but I can't conscience that against another human life. I've heard stories where over $10k were spent on a single dog.......
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Post by: pretre
poda_t wrote:@Frazzled
before things get out of hand, i do have a pair of dogs, so it's not like im speaking from a standpoint without experience. We've had dogs when I was still in eastblockia (all sorts of animals in fact) and our neighbor poisoned our doberman and shot our kittens (shot them on his property and buried them in ours). I do understand the willingness to keep that pet alive, but I can't conscience that against another human life. I've heard stories where over $10k were spent on a single dog.......
Wow, this would be a great topic for OT. (hint hint)
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Post by: Frazzled
pretre wrote:poda_t wrote:@Frazzled
before things get out of hand, i do have a pair of dogs, so it's not like im speaking from a standpoint without experience. We've had dogs when I was still in eastblockia (all sorts of animals in fact) and our neighbor poisoned our doberman and shot our kittens (shot them on his property and buried them in ours). I do understand the willingness to keep that pet alive, but I can't conscience that against another human life. I've heard stories where over $10k were spent on a single dog.......
Wow, this would be a great topic for OT. (hint hint)
I agree and I'll drop it. Suffice it to say, I value my weiner dogs more than I value the other poster, or even most countries. Sorry. (here's a hint - note the avatar...)
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Post by: shrike
n0t_u wrote:As for non-GW models in a GW store I try to limit myself to at most one model and stick to their requirements. If people ask I just say it's a conversion, I don't point them towards the other line. Pretty much all the managers I've come across have been fine with this. Too many distractions to work on anything in store.
Last time I went to my LGS (two weeks back), I brought in and started painting a set of chapterhouse jump packs on a squad of kitbashed vanguard veterans. Manager asked what they were, I said a different company, and he just said "ah, naughty bitz then" and walked off. A few people noted them and asked as well, but I said either "converted counts-as vanguard veterans" or, if specifically asked about the jump packs, said "a different company".
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Post by: Lt. Coldfire
A lot of these stories are really hard to believe. I mean really, attacking people, breaking stuff over a game of toy soldiers? To be fair though, I've seen some violent xbox players.
poda_t wrote:
On that note as another irrelevant aside, I am one of those crazy, useless, backwards unwanted communist bastard pricks who firmly believes that you shouldn't spend more than $500 your dogs recovery (after $500 you can buy another dog...). people who spend $2000 or more on their dogs recovery, when that dog is 13+ years old, and say with pride they saved their dogs life, deserve to be shot. To me, that frivolous waste of money is a criminal disregard for human life. lets say there are 10'000 people who spend that way in my city. that would mean $20 million that could have gone towards the homeless, to africa, or asia.... but no, its $20 million spent on extending the life of an animal who can't control its own bowel movements anymore, has gone blind and deaf and gone lazy... Being attached to a pet is one thing, but turning it into a medical experiment at the expense of your fellow man is just disgusting.
I agree depending on the severity of the pet's case, but I've known more people than animals who've suffered years on end due to the medical field, and you want to talk about costly... $500 gets you a t.v. dinner and a high five at a hospital. Hell, my grandma hasn't been able to control her bowels going on ten years now, she's broken her hip three times and has been hoping to die for the last 3-4 years. She's costing the taxpayers crazy amounts of money. I love her an all, but if she herself has been hoping to die, then so be it. When I'm ready to turn in the towel, I'll be damned if some doctor is going to keep me going in the name of an epic paycheck.
Plus... $20 million? Please. That's probably off anyways, but even if it is correct, you can be sure people will spend that on the latest iPhone long before they donate it to the bum around the corner. And they're entitled to it. It's THEIR money.
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Post by: poda_t
Frazzled wrote:pretre wrote:poda_t wrote:@Frazzled
before things get out of hand, i do have a pair of dogs, so it's not like im speaking from a standpoint without experience. We've had dogs when I was still in eastblockia (all sorts of animals in fact) and our neighbor poisoned our doberman and shot our kittens (shot them on his property and buried them in ours). I do understand the willingness to keep that pet alive, but I can't conscience that against another human life. I've heard stories where over $10k were spent on a single dog.......
Wow, this would be a great topic for OT. (hint hint)
I agree and I'll drop it. Suffice it to say, I value my weiner dogs more than I value the other poster, or even most countries. Sorry.
psh, nonsense, don't be sorry. I'm just a dieing breed (refrain from making any sort of "romantic" assumptions). I can't change other people's opinions or habits even if they make me irate. That said, I agreed with your earlier remark regarding rights to death and taxes. I suppose i should slap myself, the hobby is not a cheap one, and i have drained oodles of cash into it. So i deserve that hipocrite smack. I just remembered another horror story: my mate walked into a GW with his girlfriend and he's stuffing his iPod away. Red shirt goes bat-gak all over him demanding him to produce everything he jsut pocketed and to empty out his pockets. My friend refuses, saying he was just putting his iPod away, and produces his iPod from the pocket, never having let go of it. This goes on for a few minutes. Red shirt continues to insist that he stole something and proceeds to call security. Security guard shows up, checks my friend over, shrugs and leaves. GW rep doesn't even apologize for his conduct, and turns my mate out of an empty store. My mate was looking to drop $300 that day and start a 40k army and the hobby... Hasn't picked up the hobby to date because of the incident, this was 5 years ago.
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Post by: Frazzled
shrike wrote:n0t_u wrote:As for non-GW models in a GW store I try to limit myself to at most one model and stick to their requirements. If people ask I just say it's a conversion, I don't point them towards the other line. Pretty much all the managers I've come across have been fine with this. Too many distractions to work on anything in store.
Last time I went to my LGS (two weeks back), I brought in and started painting a set of chapterhouse jump packs on a squad of kitbashed vanguard veterans. Manager asked what they were, I said a different company, and he just said "ah, naughty bitz then" and walked off. A few people noted them and asked as well, but I said either "converted counts-as vanguard veterans" or, if specifically asked about the jump packs, said "a different company".
Just say they are 2nd edition minis and bits you're converting over. Most people won't know them (including redshirts). Those that do you'd probably already know...
Alternatively IIRC FW has similar jump packs. Just say you love Forgeworld.
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Post by: Pacific
I've never had any problem with using Maxmini packs or others. After all, it's a ridiculous criticism to say that they are inappropriate - after all, you still need to buy the marines to use them.
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Post by: sharkticon
LGS horror story time - I drive an hour to a LGS I'd been to once before for an event to attend a tournament. My first warning sign that this was not going to go well is that the fun people from the last event are not present, and those who are are very sullen looking. After sign ups happen, the judge announces that he will too be playing, and not just as the ringer. That's a little odd, but I let it go. Things are going well, I have a great game against an eldar player who knew his rules well. Nothing really seems amiss until the last round, when the eldar player I faced first round is seated at the table next to me, playing the judge.
Half an hour in, the judge yell, "No! You can't place them there!"
I look, and the judge has deep struck a mawloc so the template when it comes in hit a wave serpent, but the model could still be placed right outside of the serpent's hatch. The serpent had been wrecked, and the eldar player was placing his fire dragons near the hatch. The judge tries to argue that he cannot place any of them because the mawloc is in the way. The eldar player points out that not only can they emergency disembark, but where he is placing them is still within 2 inches of the hatch, and an inch away from the mawloc.
I turn back to my game, when ten minutes later I hear the judge scream, "Why can't I get a damn psychic power off this turn!"
I, along with the rest of the store, turn in time to see the judge smash his tervigon conversion on the table and shatter it.
At the end of the day when the judge declared himself to be the winner of the tournament, I didn't question it, I just added that store to the list of ones not to return to.
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wow, that is crazy. Did the judge look like the comic store guy from the Simpsons?
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Frazzled wrote:wow, that is crazy. Did the judge look like the comic store guy from the Simpsons?
Unfortunately, no.
I forgot the funniest part, his reasoning that the fire dragons couldn't be placed after being shown otherwise, "But I put it there so you couldn't do that!'
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Post by: Lt. Coldfire
That sounded like it may have been comical, sharkticon. I laughed pretty hard at the story you told, anyways.
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Post by: Lorek
Just a reminder, folks. Dogs are awesome and amazing, but please keep all dog-related conversation to the OT forum.
And your friends, neighbors, and anyone in the restaurant who will listen.
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Post by: DAaddict
A friend of mine has a nicely painted BA army. We are playing at a local gamestore with other activities like ccg and such. We have a tournament at the same time.
Some little kid - maybe about 8- is entranced with the look of 40 k. To the point he is like a moth drawn to the flames. The kid is about 6" away from the models and my friend calmly asks the kid to back off... My friend goes back to playing his game. The kid gets closer again. Another warning.
About the 4th warning the kid gets up next to the table again. It is very tight and the kid manages to knock the landraider and a couple of figures to the cement floor. From the sound you know that pieces have gone fllying...
Friend, " Don't move!"
Little kid steps back in horror.
KRRRUNCCHHHH!
The kid looks like he is staring down the barrel of a loaded shotgun. My friend has turned to a deep shade of red.
We laugh about it now but this was both horrible and funny (for me) .
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Post by: Vampirate of Sartosa
...Wow. I personally believe that any situation wherein GMs/judges participate in campaigns/tournaments, there should be more than one GM/judge. Avoids situations like this.
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Post by: Frazzled
Unless they are just playing as ringers. I don't have a problem with that.
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Post by: captain collius
1. I once payed 3K to fix my dogs knee after he tore an acl chasing off someone who was going to rob us. he lived 6 more happy years.
sorry fot the ot
back to gw
man i feel sorry for some of you people and let me be honest i have a personal anger issue i have had to deal with in my life and let me tell you when you have planned out the perfect plan and then the old adage of no plans survives conatct with the enemy kicks in it stinks ( this weekend was playin apocc game and we went first i pumped 8 lascannons( 3 of which are twin linked) into as leman russ and did nothing (i reached nerd rage level 5000) then calmed down and realized my attack bike was within 12" no didid't measure just saw and estimated fired pop goes the guardsman
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Post by: sharkticon
Ooh, two more, both from the LA Battle Bunker, usually a great place, but gets it's share of wierdos:
1) During one of their old 48 hour straight gaming events, it's about 6AM on the second day, and we're playing a 40K version of capture the flag devised by one of the staffers (divide players into teams, each player takes a special character, each team has to reach an objective on the other side's deployment zone and bring it back to their own. A lot of fun, really), and everyone is having a great, caffeine addled time.
Out of nowhere, a staffer launches into a tirade about how awesome porn featuring space wolves and sisters of battle would be. The eight or so of us in the room sit in shocked silence as he goes on for about five minutes. I decide this was a great time to get breakfast.
2) Years later, I'm playing in a 2000 point event, and get paired up with a guy using the 4th ed blood angels codex. He is a little new to the game, and visibly upset to be paired up with orks, as he had been told he would be most likely facing space marines, and had tailored his list. I give him a minute to change his list and we get started. He tries to enforce WYSIWYG to mean that he gets to use any wargear modeled on the models, even if it was not paid for or was not an option.
Him, "I take an invulnerable save on this death company"
Me, "You can't, death company has 3+ saves, feel no pain, and rending, that's it.."
Him, pointing at the model, "See, he has an iron halo."
We repeat the conversation several times, where he tried to claim his death company had wargear it was not allowed, because he had glued it on. Once the DC was dead, and it's war gear issues were no longer distracting me, I noticed more things were off. He had way too much stuff on the board, as stuff kept coming in. He declares another unit of assault terminators are coming in, and that it's his last unit. I ask to see his army list, he doesn't have one as he changed it at the last minute. I suggest we write one. he rolls his eyes and gets out the white dwarf codex. It turns out the guy was running five elite choices and 2500 points in a 2000 point event.
I call the staffer in charge over, explain the situation, and offer the solution of continuing the game, with the assault terminators not coming in, so the guy would only be 300 points over. The staffer agrees, and we finish the game. I win by a small margin.
The blood angel player goes to his friends and throws a fit, complaining that I'm TFG, that I made him not use his terminators because he was a few points over, and that if it weren't for that, he would have won. One of his friends asks how many points over he was, the blood angels guy replies, "only 500."
His friends laughed at him.
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Post by: shrike
Frazzled wrote:shrike wrote:n0t_u wrote:As for non-GW models in a GW store I try to limit myself to at most one model and stick to their requirements. If people ask I just say it's a conversion, I don't point them towards the other line. Pretty much all the managers I've come across have been fine with this. Too many distractions to work on anything in store.
Last time I went to my LGS (two weeks back), I brought in and started painting a set of chapterhouse jump packs on a squad of kitbashed vanguard veterans. Manager asked what they were, I said a different company, and he just said "ah, naughty bitz then" and walked off. A few people noted them and asked as well, but I said either "converted counts-as vanguard veterans" or, if specifically asked about the jump packs, said "a different company".
Just say they are 2nd edition minis and bits you're converting over. Most people won't know them (including redshirts). Those that do you'd probably already know...
Alternatively IIRC FW has similar jump packs. Just say you love Forgeworld.
Yeah, a few people said "heresy-era jump packs?", obviously meaning the forgeworld models. I just replied "Yeah."
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
I've only once become so annoyed that I wanted to physically pick up a tank and throw it against the wall... but it wasn't during a game. It was about 3am in the morning and I'd been struggling to put a 100% resin FW Stormblade together and it just wasn't working. I really wanted to break that thing...
sharkticon wrote:Out of nowhere, a staffer launches into a tirade about how awesome porn featuring space wolves and sisters of battle would be. The eight or so of us in the room sit in shocked silence as he goes on for about five minutes. I decide this was a great time to get breakfast.
That is the most random thing I've heard all week! LOL!
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Post by: shrike
H.B.M.C. wrote:I've only once become so annoyed that I wanted to physically pick up a tank and throw it against the wall... but it wasn't during a game. It was about 3am in the morning and I'd been struggling to put a 100% resin FW Stormblade together and it just wasn't working. I really wanted to break that thing...
I've had that a couple of times, all when building- normally when an arm will stick to my fingers, the floor, the desk- anything but the torso, or a model just won't.
But am I the only one whose tales of gamers going OTT about stuff only go as far as a few quiet insults and sulking/leaving?
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Post by: pretre
shrike wrote:But am I the only one whose tales of gamers going OTT about stuff only go as far as a few quiet insults and sulking/leaving?
Nah, that's probably what really happens, but those don't make good stories so they get spiced up.
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Post by: DarknessEternal
sharkticon wrote:
At the end of the day when the judge declared himself to be the winner of the tournament, I didn't question it, I just added that store to the list of ones not to return to.
Why do you blame the store and not the people involved?
That's sort of a relevant question for a lot of these posts.
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Post by: sharkticon
DarknessEternal wrote:sharkticon wrote:
At the end of the day when the judge declared himself to be the winner of the tournament, I didn't question it, I just added that store to the list of ones not to return to.
Why do you blame the store and not the people involved?
That's sort of a relevant question for a lot of these posts.
Judge was store staff, and runs most of their events.
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
How can you just declare yourself a winner? DId the tournament have no scoring system for games lost/won/drawn?
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Post by: Frazzled
H.B.M.C. wrote:How can you just declare yourself a winner? DId the tournament have no scoring system for games lost/won/drawn?
Well in his defense, the judge could have pulled a Taurus Judge, and was unanimously elected winner...
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Post by: -Loki-
DAaddict wrote:A friend of mine has a nicely painted BA army. We are playing at a local gamestore with other activities like ccg and such. We have a tournament at the same time.
Some little kid - maybe about 8- is entranced with the look of 40 k. To the point he is like a moth drawn to the flames. The kid is about 6" away from the models and my friend calmly asks the kid to back off... My friend goes back to playing his game. The kid gets closer again. Another warning.
About the 4th warning the kid gets up next to the table again. It is very tight and the kid manages to knock the landraider and a couple of figures to the cement floor. From the sound you know that pieces have gone fllying...
Friend, " Don't move!"
Little kid steps back in horror.
KRRRUNCCHHHH!
The kid looks like he is staring down the barrel of a loaded shotgun. My friend has turned to a deep shade of red.
We laugh about it now but this was both horrible and funny (for me) .
I've done this, but to my own model.
My brother and I wer eplaying one our first games of 3rd edition, deciding to get used to the new rules with the models in the box. I was leaning forward over the table moving something, and my brother and a friend watching said 'Don't move!'. For some reason, I thought "gak I'm leaning on something!' so I stepped back. It sounded like I was standing on a pile of rice bubbles. I looked down, and there was a poor Dark Eldar warrior, base crushed, broken at the ankles, knees, waist, shoulders, elbows, wrists, weapon/hand joins and neck.
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Post by: shrike
My dog has also decided to destroy one of my dreadnoughts- my brother steps on it, breaking it and the ankles, then my dog kicks it across the room as the glue is drying, then he knocks over a castle wall onto the dreadnought as the glue dries again.
He was shut in the lounge for the remainder of the game.
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Post by: Liquidice281
My local GW is great, and there has been only one "horror story" in the last three years.
So like most days after morning college classes I went to GW to paint (blood angels). After painting about 3 assault marines in store, nature called and I went to the local subway to relieve myself (we have a sever # 2 policy at our store enforced by the local club). About 10 minutes later I come in, and find the store operator with a hobby drill drilling "battle damage" onto my models. Multiple drill holes in the shoulder pads, helmets, and jump packs.After bitching, I made him buy me a battlebox under threat of calling the regional manager. It may also be the fact that at time I had just finished my college football career (6'4 290), and threatened to throw him through the window when he warned me that he used to be in the navy.
Other than that, my GW has been glorious. After a leg injury they allowed me to use the bar stools to play (I stopped because the little ones decided to use the paint stools also), which violated the fire code.
As for people complaining about not being able to bring in non GW models,
You should respect the store that offers free paint stations and tables, If i ran a GW store i would do the same. And BTW in Texas, most fast food restaurants will kick you out if you bring in non restaurant food.
I also don't mind the store operator getting mad at people talking about how expensive models are and how they can get them on ebay for cheaper, other potential customers hear that and sales will go down. Personally I have told many people to feth off after they went on a rant about Matt Ward or how they heard that fantasy 8th is unplayable, because the little ones listen and believe every word of it. How would you feel as a GW employee if you tried to sell fantasy to a person and got this response (Oh, I heard on a forum 8th edition fantasy is unplayable and horrible and that 80% of the player base left). The best one was a kid that had never played the table top game told the operator that he would not buy any 40k because Matt Ward ruined it, a person that had never played the game!
It's a business first and foremost and you should respect that.
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Post by: -Loki-
Liquidice281 wrote:So like most days after morning college classes I went to GW to paint (blood angels). After painting about 3 assault marines in store, nature called and I went to the local subway to relieve myself (we have a sever # 2 policy at our store enforced by the local club). About 10 minutes later I come in, and find the store operator with a hobby drill drilling "battle damage" onto my models. Multiple drill holes in the shoulder pads, helmets, and jump packs.After bitching, I made him buy me a battlebox under threat of calling the regional manager. It may also be the fact that at time I had just finished my college football career (6'4 290), and threatened to throw him through the window when he warned me that he used to be in the navy.
I'd have called the regional manager anyway. That's just fethed up.
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Post by: hotsauceman1
Gratuitous dog commentary removed -- Lorek
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Post by: FacelessMage
Enough dog comments guys. Come on.
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Post by: fire4effekt
Woof.
Watch out 117 may be getting upset.
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Post by: Lorek
fire4effekt wrote:Woof.
Watch out 117 may be getting upset.
This is spam and will not be tolerated. Further spam messages will result in a temporary suspension.
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Post by: Frazzled
I must say, after all these stories, I feel like I've missed out on a whole emo side to mini gaming.
I especially like the comments from ex staff.
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Post by: spyguyyoda
Frazzled wrote:H.B.M.C. wrote:How can you just declare yourself a winner? DId the tournament have no scoring system for games lost/won/drawn?
Well in his defense, the judge could have pulled a Taurus Judge, and was unanimously elected winner...
Best quote in the thread, IMHO.
The Judge is great...I would have no problem to letting that guy win if he had one of those...but maybe I would have just let him think that while I went to get my.44
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Post by: Rayvon
DarknessEternal wrote:sharkticon wrote:
At the end of the day when the judge declared himself to be the winner of the tournament, I didn't question it, I just added that store to the list of ones not to return to.
Why do you blame the store and not the people involved?
That's sort of a relevant question for a lot of these posts.
I was thinking this also.
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Post by: Doctadeth
2 more incidents after thinking about horror stories.
We have a serial grey player, who loves cheating. Long story short, we had a 500 pt tournament at a GW. He was involved. Zero for painting, zero for presentation of army. First match was verse me. I had 2 tact squads, a dread and an Interragator chaplain, about 490 points worth.
He had blood claws with lucas, long fangs, a dreadnought and some wolves. I asked to see his army list. He produces a piece of paper with some scribbling. I read it, it details out a 1k point army. I point this out and he shouts at me.
At that point I realise its going to be a bad game. He constantly switches Dread and Longfang weapons. kills lucas before the BC squad goes down and generally is cheating. I manage to pull off a draw, with my dreadnought and the chaplain contesting both objectives. He THREW the dreadnought to the floor, and was about to do it with the chaplain (asmodai) until I uttered a single word very softly.
Don't.
He ran out of the store, leaving his models behind. The manager put his army behind the counter for him, he returns a few minutes later, packs the models and leaves.
a month later his parents come instore and he identifies me as a *troublemaker* and they start trying to abuse me verbally. I tell them to talk to the manager and walk off, leaving them dumbfounded. Next thing I hear is *get out of this store and stop threatening my customers or else I will call the police*.
Turns out mom and dad wanted to tear me a new one for the tournament event, which I had forgotten.
Haven't seen him for about 3 years now.
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Post by: Locclo
Ah, this thread again. Always worth a read.
I'm happy to say that my worst horror stories about gaming involve TFGs (one in particular who gets really angry whenever he loses, even minor losses during a game) and the occasional rules lawyer at my FLGS. To be fair, I've never had to set foot in an actual GW store, as there aren't any within 100 miles of my address, only independent stores that sell their products. Having read 8 pages of these, I've got to say that I feel really lucky that there aren't.
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Post by: ParatrooperSimon
What we have here is a failure to communicate.
Please don't troll the board.
Thanks
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WHAT! 15min to right that man...
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Can I get a reason why my post was "Trollish"?
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Post by: gunslingerpro
Had an incident at my FLGS fairly recently that is on topic.
I was setting up my Cryx on a table out back when I noticed there was a high volume of people in the store (you can see the whole store from the playing room essentially).
Most were your typical gamer types, but one kid and his friend were being more than borderline sketchy.
The smaller of the two kept going up to the store's lone worker and asking about buying specific MTG cards and the like, so the worker would be distracted while his friend filled his sweatshirt pocket with various items from the store.
It wasn't even like he was being inconspicuous about it, he kept looking back and forth and had his shoulders all hunched up. It would've been comical if it weren't outright thievery.
After watching this all go on for quite a bit, I simply entered the retail area and stood at the end of the aisle while the kid deposited another HeroClix in his pocket. It was then he noticed I was watching him. Just gave him the all knowning look of "you're busted", to which he removed:
-Three Hero Clix
-Two Dice Cubes (Twelve Die each)
-Four packages of crystal markers
-Two miniatures
-Two blisters of some space ship wargame.
He placed it all on the shelf in front of him and dragged his friend out with him. I let the worker know, he seemed a bit shocked, but hey. These things happen. Just glad I could help.
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Post by: Henners91
The most awkward moment I ever had was when some kid, about 11 years old I guess... started talking to me in GW Woking.
Maybe I was being a bit stupid making such a joke to a kid, but LotR came up and I got onto the topic of that ol' 'LotR is racist' meme... not sure how I did, maybe I was having a socially awkward moment, who knows.
Anyway, this lovely coddled middle class kid (rather like myself) loudly responds to the quip that there are no blacks with 'Well, there are the Orcs!'
My reaction, rather uncharacteristically for me was 'woaaah steady there kid'.
As for non-GW models:
I once shot myself in the foot when I asked if I could paint a Farseer conversion. It was an Avatars of War High Elf mage with a Singing Spear stuck on as well as a Shuriken pistol... so like, 20% GW at best. The store assistant said it was fine and I just *had* to add 'Oh but I thought it would be like an 50% minimum.' So the guy got his manager and he told me it was more like 80% and to put the model away.
Gah. I think both these posts show I have some undiagnosed social condition..
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Post by: -Loki-
I honestly don't know how people paint in a GW store. I used to when I was a lot younger simply for free access to the whole range of paints, but it was terrible. Now when I walk in and see the people painting... I just feel I have better things to do when I'm out.
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Post by: CthuluIsSpy
I got a story of my own, though it is fairly old (and poorly remembered)
When I was starting WHFB, around the age of 14 or so, I was playing a game at the games workshop over at Melbourne central (I was in AUS at the time). Anyway, its a fairly small store in a mall, and one of the tables was like halfway out. Not on the street obviously, it was in a mall after all, but anyway.
So yeah, I was playing with someguy, and then I felt something poking me. So I turned around and I saw these kids looking at me. I didn't say anything and went back to playing, and I thought nothing of it. Anyway, at the end of the game I noticed that I was missing a skink. I asked the store staff, and after looking under the tables and such we didn't find it. I forgot what happened next, but I think the one of the staff members suspected that it may been been those kids. Said he thought he saw them teasing me or something. So yeah, some bastards may have nicked one of my skinks.
And there are more nasty stories. We always got jerks passing by GW over in aus. We had jocks walk by calling us satanists and whatever. The fact there's no bloody door doesn't help matters.
I am sure there are more, but I can't remember them that well.
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Post by: filbert
One of the threads of thought that a lot of these stories have in common is an interesting example of the disconnect that GW have successfully created over the years. GW have persistently claimed to be 'the Hobby' to the extent where a newcomer to wargaming thinks that GW = wargaming. They buy GW product, GW paints, they game in GW stores and paint in GW stores. Which is why it comes as a big shock when GW refuse to let someone paint a non-GW miniature or use non-GW paints/tools in a GW store. GW don't let people game and paint in their stores because they are jolly and friendly or because they wish to foster and nurture the hobby climate; they do so because kids gaming and painting in GW stores (and ostensibly enjoying it) is excellent free advertising to both kids coming into the store for the first time and for kids passing buy and looking in. What better way to motivate sales than seeing a bunch of kids having fun? The best form of advertising is word of mouth, even better when your own customers do it for you.
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Post by: Henners91
Nobody would try no crap with me in a GW because I'm an ex-Green Beret, French Foreign Legion Veteran and genetically modified super-astronaut.
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Post by: Duce
H.B.M.C. wrote:I've only once become so annoyed that I wanted to physically pick up a tank and throw it against the wall... but it wasn't during a game. It was about 3am in the morning and I'd been struggling to put a 100% resin FW Stormblade together and it just wasn't working. I
I hope you made it like the old epic version with the deathstrike on top of the cannon and manticore launcher on the side good sir
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Post by: Frazzled
Doctadeth wrote:a month later his parents come instore and he identifies me as a *troublemaker* and they start trying to abuse me verbally. I tell them to talk to the manager and walk off, leaving them dumbfounded. Next thing I hear is *get out of this store and stop threatening my customers or else I will call the police*.
Turns out mom and dad wanted to tear me a new one for the tournament event, which I had forgotten.
Haven't seen him for about 3 years now.
Now THERE is a manager who needs an award!
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Post by: Doctadeth
Bought him a beer after that day of work.
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Post by: spyguyyoda
Rayvon wrote:DarknessEternal wrote:sharkticon wrote:
At the end of the day when the judge declared himself to be the winner of the tournament, I didn't question it, I just added that store to the list of ones not to return to.
Why do you blame the store and not the people involved?
That's sort of a relevant question for a lot of these posts.
I was thinking this also.
I don't really see anyone blaming the 'store' except when it's store staff causing the problem.
Sure a lot of people say they never have/will go back to those stores, but I also don't go (back) to stores that are populated by donkey caves like the ones in these stories. If the staff doesn't take steps to ensure a positive environment, then they don't deserve my money. Automatically Appended Next Post: -Loki- wrote:I honestly don't know how people paint in a GW store. I used to when I was a lot younger simply for free access to the whole range of paints, but it was terrible. Now when I walk in and see the people painting... I just feel I have better things to do when I'm out.
I paint there sometimes because I'll go in hoping to get a game or two, but no one is there. So I paint, because otherwise I'd probably just stand around talking.
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Post by: Ovion
-Loki- wrote:I honestly don't know how people paint in a GW store. I used to when I was a lot younger simply for free access to the whole range of paints, but it was terrible. Now when I walk in and see the people painting... I just feel I have better things to do when I'm out.
In my experience, a lot of the people painting in store are either waiting for a game, have to be in town because uni / work is split and there's X hours inbetween, or at home there's kids / other distractions. There's also a social aspect to it - painting with a like minded group rather than alone.
I mostly paint at home, but I generally make sure I take the paints I need for whatever current project I'm working on when I go in store so in those periods I'm invaribly waiting for a game, I can paint stuff up.
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Post by: Rimmy
Henners91 wrote:Nobody would try no crap with me in a GW because I'm an ex-Green Beret, French Foreign Legion Veteran and genetically modified super-astronaut.
the troll is strong with this one LOL
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Post by: Howard A Treesong
I don't see the appeal of communal painting. It seems a course to be unproductive and make mistakes.
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Post by: Rimmy
Howard A Treesong wrote:I don't see the appeal of communal painting. It seems a course to be unproductive and make mistakes.
only if the blind are leading the blind.
the painting skills course we put out was very well received. and if some of the better painters were there, they were great at keeping things flowing.
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Post by: poda_t
I remember one non-horror story from GW (more of a ROFL story)
For some reason there used to be two GW's in my city. I think it was the product of their own error, and it was a fact we abused because the systems weren't connected. When they were handing out free stuff, we got extra.... Anyway, one of the stores was adjacent to an upper class conservative clothing store staffed by right-wing snooty pro-Christians. I think you can see the breadth and depth of the problem that's going to happen here. There were frequent complaints about the uncouth characters and delinquents that frequented the hobby shop, and how it was damaging their own customer base. Never mind that mommy always sent her boys next door to amuse themselves while she shopped. The complaints and accusations leveled against GW kept escalating, and GW staffers are trying to do their best to take it in stride, but its starting to get very confrontational. Finally, having had enough, they went and held a large event (as GW usually does), packing close to 80 people into that teeny mall store(auctions and free stuff involved... oodles of fun) Now this clothing store was getting annoyed by this event, it was noisy, and raucous, and the worst one yet. The GW staff managed to pull a coup- de-grace this day that left the clothing store staffers pale, and saw the GW store get punted into a corner of the mall. Part of the event entailed all 80+ attendees to shout "Blood for the blood god" as loud as they could on the count of 3.
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Post by: Frazzled
When did the store shut down?
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Post by: CthuluIsSpy
poda_t wrote:I remember one non-horror story from GW (more of a ROFL story) For some reason there used to be two GW's in my city. I think it was the product of their own error, and it was a fact we abused because the systems weren't connected. When they were handing out free stuff, we got extra.... Anyway, one of the stores was adjacent to an upper class conservative clothing store staffed by right-wing snooty pro-Christians. I think you can see the breadth and depth of the problem that's going to happen here. There were frequent complaints about the uncouth characters and delinquents that frequented the hobby shop, and how it was damaging their own customer base. Never mind that mommy always sent her boys next door to amuse themselves while she shopped. The complaints and accusations leveled against GW kept escalating, and GW staffers are trying to do their best to take it in stride, but its starting to get very confrontational. Finally, having had enough, they went and held a large event (as GW usually does), packing close to 80 people into that teeny mall store(auctions and free stuff involved... oodles of fun) Now this clothing store was getting annoyed by this event, it was noisy, and raucous, and the worst one yet. The GW staff managed to pull a coup- de-grace this day that left the clothing store staffers pale, and saw the GW store get punted into a corner of the mall. Part of the event entailed all 80+ attendees to shout "Blood for the blood god" as loud as they could on the count of 3.
Only one thing to say to that (in reference to the store, not to the post I am quoting. What the store did was excellent, btw).  I wish the store stayed there though. The uptight snobs should have just shut it and minded their own business, like they should. Awww my picture got broken.
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Post by: DarknessEternal
-Loki- wrote: for free access to the whole range of paints
They let you paint with their paint for free? I'll just add this to the list of reasons I find it mind-boggling that people complain about this company.
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Post by: poda_t
If you refer to me? geeze... the store got relocated to a different part of sun-ridge mall at around 2006/2007. I think the store closed around early summer 2008? (I got one of the 4x4 tabletops and the terrain on it for keeps) The one in Chinook has been where it's been at for.... i think pretty much forever.
@cthulhu
and the store wasn't shut down, it was just relocated. It was part of a mall refurb as well as the GW location issue. They punted it to a corner where the stores across were just as noisy and had entries from the outside, weren't staffed by crazies. I think the mall managers were sick of the complaints too so moved GW over.
also, your pic isn't working
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Post by: Frazzled
So it got moved and then not long thereafter closed permanently? It may just have been GW lowering its rent via going for cheaper space.
Total aside to the topic. Not sure why I bring it up.
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Post by: TheRobotLol
Rimmy wrote:Henners91 wrote:Nobody would try no crap with me in a GW because I'm an ex-Green Beret, French Foreign Legion Veteran and genetically modified super-astronaut.
the troll is strong with this one LOL
Luke, use the troll
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Post by: Vampirate of Sartosa
I paint at GW because painting at home, with nobody to talk to, is really, really boring.
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Post by: chrisyella
No denying that some gamers are dirty and smelly but there are some red shirts that need to stop eating s sandwiches on their lunch breaks.
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Post by: shrike
Just remembered something that happened a while back, not really counting as a horror story, but one of the most discomforting moments I've had in my LGS:
In the middle of a 1500 point game with a friend, a middle-aged guy walks in and starts curiously looking at all the models in the store (which is normal)- obviously a new guy. He waddles over (not the skinniest guy) and once he got in a 1-metre-radius, his stench hit us. It was literally revolting. I just said I was gonna get some reinforcements from my case at the other side of the shop and pretended to look around in it until the guy left my table. If I wasn't in the middle of a game, I'd have probably left straight away. The only real example of "gamer B.O." I've encountered IRL.
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Post by: chrisyella
Ahh, good ole gamer funk... 
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Post by: CthuluIsSpy
poda_t wrote:If you refer to me? geeze... the store got relocated to a different part of sun-ridge mall at around 2006/2007. I think the store closed around early summer 2008? (I got one of the 4x4 tabletops and the terrain on it for keeps) The one in Chinook has been where it's been at for.... i think pretty much forever.
@cthulhu
and the store wasn't shut down, it was just relocated. It was part of a mall refurb as well as the GW location issue. They punted it to a corner where the stores across were just as noisy and had entries from the outside, weren't staffed by crazies. I think the mall managers were sick of the complaints too so moved GW over.
also, your pic isn't working
Oh, that's ok then.
Yeah, I noticed that too. I think the admins cracked down on it. Automatically Appended Next Post: Vampirate of Sartosa wrote:I paint at GW because painting at home, with nobody to talk to, is really, really boring.
Really? I find painting at home to be really relaxing. Its like meditation to me.
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
DarknessEternal wrote:I'll just add this to the list of reasons I find it mind-boggling that people complain about this company.
You're being intentionally ignorant now aren't you, right?
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Post by: Piston Honda
I created a Orc faction I made with home brewed rules for Space Hulk, my friends and I played it 3 or 4 days a week for over a month and got a bit bored.
I posted up my rules on board game geek. I also added images of Orcs I was using from GW's site along with a link to their official web site. I wasn't making any money off this, nor was I claiming any of the art work was my own.
I got a threat to take it before the pursue any legal action.
Before I could even take it down myself, BGG took it down for me.
Sheeeesh.
I think GW is a bit over the top with protecting their IP. But hey, they must be doing something right, they are the most popular table top game around and have been for how long?
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Post by: Piston Honda
CthuluIsSpy wrote:I got a story of my own, though it is fairly old (and poorly remembered)
When I was starting WHFB, around the age of 14 or so, I was playing a game at the games workshop over at Melbourne central (I was in AUS at the time). Anyway, its a fairly small store in a mall, and one of the tables was like halfway out. Not on the street obviously, it was in a mall after all, but anyway.
So yeah, I was playing with someguy, and then I felt something poking me. So I turned around and I saw these kids looking at me. I didn't say anything and went back to playing, and I thought nothing of it. Anyway, at the end of the game I noticed that I was missing a skink. I asked the store staff, and after looking under the tables and such we didn't find it. I forgot what happened next, but I think the one of the staff members suspected that it may been been those kids. Said he thought he saw them teasing me or something. So yeah, some bastards may have nicked one of my skinks.
And there are more nasty stories. We always got jerks passing by GW over in aus. We had jocks walk by calling us satanists and whatever. The fact there's no bloody door doesn't help matters.
I am sure there are more, but I can't remember them that well.
Reminds me of a time when I was in high school there were several kids who played yu-gi-oh or some other card game just about every day. There was some jerk kid who use to give them a rough time everyday. Try to take their cards, throw their cards on the floor, throw wads of paper at them.
Then when day one of the kids at the table gave him the most epic bitch slap I have ever seen.
I'm generally not one to say use your fists, but it is nice to see a bully get his. Automatically Appended Next Post: poda_t wrote:I remember one non-horror story from GW (more of a ROFL story)
For some reason there used to be two GW's in my city. I think it was the product of their own error, and it was a fact we abused because the systems weren't connected. When they were handing out free stuff, we got extra.... Anyway, one of the stores was adjacent to an upper class conservative clothing store staffed by right-wing snooty pro-Christians. I think you can see the breadth and depth of the problem that's going to happen here. There were frequent complaints about the uncouth characters and delinquents that frequented the hobby shop, and how it was damaging their own customer base. Never mind that mommy always sent her boys next door to amuse themselves while she shopped. The complaints and accusations leveled against GW kept escalating, and GW staffers are trying to do their best to take it in stride, but its starting to get very confrontational. Finally, having had enough, they went and held a large event (as GW usually does), packing close to 80 people into that teeny mall store(auctions and free stuff involved... oodles of fun) Now this clothing store was getting annoyed by this event, it was noisy, and raucous, and the worst one yet. The GW staff managed to pull a coup- de-grace this day that left the clothing store staffers pale, and saw the GW store get punted into a corner of the mall. Part of the event entailed all 80+ attendees to shout "Blood for the blood god" as loud as they could on the count of 3.
lol. Lost a friend back in elementary school because of pokemon, his parents thought they were the Devil's minions or something to that degree. Can't tell parents how to raise their kids, and I had no problem with a religious house hold but, that was over the top parenting.
I talked to him for the first time in about 13 years around this time last year when I joined face book. He is now an atheist and is involved with the legalization of pot movement. What happened there?
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Post by: Che-Vito
Piston Honda wrote:
I talked to him for the first time in about 13 years around this time last year when I joined face book. He is now an atheist and is involved with the legalization of pot movement. What happened there?
What happens to the children of many controlling households...
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Post by: illuknisaa
I don't really have any horror stories. One time I was asked to drink my juice outside the store and the other was said that I'm not allowed to use (anymore) my csm rhinos as counts as trukks. Third time was when somebody accidentally bumbed into my water bottle (I had it put on the gaming table for some reason) and the bottle snapped one of my noise marines off its' base. Overall my gw is a really nice place with maybe a little spiky (when defending gw products and ideals) people. I've even used non gw models ( http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2011/8/17/259620_md-Orks%2C%20Trukk.jpg ), painted with non gw paints, used non gw brushes and used non gw glue. I even rarely buy anything from the store ( box savage orks, finecast zagstrukk, bottle of liquid gs and some tools). And I'm pretty sure they are fully aware of my heretical actions.
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Post by: Compel
There's always been 1 thing that's really turned me against GW.
It was a LOTR tournament at GW Glasgow, I think around the time that ROTK was being played, or just after The One Ring rulebook was released, so around 2004-2006ish.
GW Glasgow is a pretty big store, around 12 tables or so (A battle bunker? I was on course for winning this mini tournament. Pretty much my first time I was close to it.
Then comes the last game...
Since there were an odd number of players, I ended up being paired against one of the store staff. I start off thinking 'yay, if I win this, it's gonna be epic.'
He takes a tooled up army, one of the kinds with a massive killy character in it (maybe Gothmog? I can't remember). He charges this hero and an orc into Faramir.
"Ok, I think, I can handle that, I've prepared for that eventuality." And counter charge an infantry man into Gothmog (or whoever it was).
Now, one of The big rules of LOTR is(was?) "there shalt be no multiple on multiple combats." (Page 16, foot of the one ring rulebook.
So, basically, since only the infantry dude charged Gothmog, the fight was split up and Faramir (who I had to keep alive for the scenario) would be saved, right?
Nope, the staffmember claimed I was making the rule up when I moved to split up the models. Completely ignored any points I was trying to make when showing him the rulebook page. All the other players around were saying 'yeah, he's the LOTR guy, he knows his stuff.' The manager wouldn't listen to me at all, then I got threatened with. "Either get over it and play it, or leave the store and don't come back."
Of course, Faramir died, I lost the game and I didn't win the tournament, or the prize... Plus, everyone at the store now thought I was a lying little...Because the 'LOTR guy' could do no wrong, despite not knowing one of the fundamental things about the game.
Yup, still bitter about it 7 years later....
And I haven't won any gaming related thing since, really.
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Post by: rockerbikie
H.B.M.C. wrote:DarknessEternal wrote:I'll just add this to the list of reasons I find it mind-boggling that people complain about this company.
You're being intentionally ignorant now aren't you, right?
Ouch, let's not turn this into a debate whether Games Workshop is a good Company or not. Keep it,civil HBMC. Also, Darkness, the mainreason why people don't like Games Workshop is the pricing of GW minatures and the attitudes of some Red Shirts which have worked at a GW store. I'm personally Neutral towards Games Workshop, they have their good and bad point towards the company and let's leave it at that.
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
Look I can take it if people don't have the same feeling towards GW as a lot of us do, but it's another thing entirely to act as if you have no idea why people might be upset with them.
Hence "intentionally ignorant".
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Post by: Wyrmalla
Compel wrote:There's always been 1 thing that's really turned me against GW.
It was a LOTR tournament at GW Glasgow, I think around the time that ROTK was being played, or just after The One Ring rulebook was released, so around 2004-2006ish.
GW Glasgow is a pretty big store, around 12 tables or so (A battle bunker? I was on course for winning this mini tournament. Pretty much my first time I was close to it.
Then comes the last game...
Since there were an odd number of players, I ended up being paired against one of the store staff. I start off thinking 'yay, if I win this, it's gonna be epic.'
He takes a tooled up army, one of the kinds with a massive killy character in it (maybe Gothmog? I can't remember). He charges this hero and an orc into Faramir.
"Ok, I think, I can handle that, I've prepared for that eventuality." And counter charge an infantry man into Gothmog (or whoever it was).
Now, one of The big rules of LOTR is(was?) "there shalt be no multiple on multiple combats." (Page 16, foot of the one ring rulebook.
So, basically, since only the infantry dude charged Gothmog, the fight was split up and Faramir (who I had to keep alive for the scenario) would be saved, right?
Nope, the staffmember claimed I was making the rule up when I moved to split up the models. Completely ignored any points I was trying to make when showing him the rulebook page. All the other players around were saying 'yeah, he's the LOTR guy, he knows his stuff.' The manager wouldn't listen to me at all, then I got threatened with. "Either get over it and play it, or leave the store and don't come back."
Of course, Faramir died, I lost the game and I didn't win the tournament, or the prize... Plus, everyone at the store now thought I was a lying little...Because the 'LOTR guy' could do no wrong, despite not knowing one of the fundamental things about the game.
Yup, still bitter about it 7 years later....
And I haven't won any gaming related thing since, really.
You mean the dispossed staff members from GW Braihead? Or are you referring to the redshirts that all ended up being made redundant within two years because of their attitudes? I can't recall when that shop had decent staff members (ok now they may be more amicable, but all they care about is shoving their products down your throat in the nicest manner). =/
And its four tables, with an additional three reserved for starter games that they have now. Definately shows where their priorities are.
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Post by: rockerbikie
H.B.M.C. wrote:Look I can take it if people don't have the same feeling towards GW as a lot of us do, but it's another thing entirely to act as if you have no idea why people might be upset with them.
Hence "intentionally ignorant".
True. True. Some people just lack empathy for others. I for one have no choice but to play at a GW Store because I refuse to play at Good Games.
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Post by: -Loki-
DarknessEternal wrote:-Loki- wrote: for free access to the whole range of paints
They let you paint with their paint for free? I'll just add this to the list of reasons I find it mind-boggling that people complain about this company.
Every FLGS I've found, if it has a paint station, lets you use it for free. GW stores do it for free, because they're GW stores. They all have from as far back as I can remember. I haven't found an FLGS yet with a paint station that doesn't let you use it for free. It's not like you're going to use hundreds of dollars worth of paint unless you're sitting there painting an entire army in a few days.
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Post by: Locclo
Funnily enough, my own FLGS is one of the best I've seen (good crowd, official 40k night, good selection of games and models), and it doesn't have any sort of free painting station. They've got a huge selection of paints (I've seen about 5 different racks, each full of a different company's line of paints) but that's about it.
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Post by: CrashCanuck
My FLGS has a painting station but you have to be a member of their store membership ($20 a year, it gets you a good discount on tournament fees and other things) in order to use their supplies. You are of course welcome to use the station if you brought some of your own supplies.
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Post by: Shaozun
DarknessEternal wrote:-Loki- wrote: for free access to the whole range of paints
They let you paint with their paint for free? I'll just add this to the list of reasons I find it mind-boggling that people complain about this company.
I have to legally pay a 100% surcharge on everything you buy simply because they can get away with it?
You know it's bad when said people who have the 50% discount over us are still complaining about the price.
GW aren't the only hobby company to do it either, Vallejo paints cost $3 from maelstrom with free shipping, P3? $3.50
Note that in Australia we 'have' to be charged over $4 for vallejo.
At least I can measure good amounts for thinning paints out and I'm a poor uni student who has to go to the lowest bidder.
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Post by: Bullockist
What he said x 10
The fact that i go to the lowest bidder atm has led me to a new game. The skirmish value of Warmachine is awesome. There i was staring down buying/painting 180 orks and i found PP 20 mins later i have 40 points of warmachine. Realistically a 25 point army.
And on topic, i seriously think they should ban the shouting of crud instore, it's fekkin lame
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
Less price comparisons, more horror stories please. They're funny (both behind and in front of the counter!)
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Post by: blood lance
I got one
Apocalypse game, it was a random event in store. They pitted us against a bunch of people and we had a team of 4 on another team of around 4-5.
Some guy deploys two revanant titans and a gigantic demon from forgeworld.
Thats cool, it is apocalypse after all.
Then all that guy shoots at with his rev's is me.
I ask why he is only shooting at me.
He says "Because you are a kid"
Ruined a lot of the fun for me.
In same battle; Less of a horror story more of a funny thing.
Another guy on the table with a bunch of marines. Hes known in my store as being annoying, WAAC, a cheater and thats just a few things on the list.
He demands that we let him go get a milkshake in the middle of the battle.
We try to convince him otherwise but he still goes.
All of a sudden half the board is shooting at him, and without him there all his shiny tanks and marines are instantly destroyed due to no one there to roll the dice (They wouldnt let me oversee it)
He returns asking "Where have all my minis gone? I told you to look after them blood_lance (Not using my real name for purposes of the internets)" And I simply reply with
"No one here to roll dice, you should of stayed"
He looked so ticked, it was actually pretty funny.
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Post by: LooT
You utter bastard, yet you utter legend at the same time. if he was a good guy, then I'd have rolled his dice for him no matter what. However, seeing that he was a cheater, he got his just deserts. Top show, top show.
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Post by: blood lance
I wanted to roll the dice for him. They wouldnt let me D:
But mostly cus this marine player had approx 30-40% of our overall total in stuff.
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Post by: TheRobotLol
blood lance wrote:I got one
Apocalypse game, it was a random event in store. They pitted us against a bunch of people and we had a team of 4 on another team of around 4-5.
Some guy deploys two revanant titans and a gigantic demon from forgeworld.
Thats cool, it is apocalypse after all.
Then all that guy shoots at with his rev's is me.
I ask why he is only shooting at me.
He says "Because you are a kid"
Ruined a lot of the fun for me.
Whaa?
Don't get it. Im not gettin something
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Post by: Henners91
-Loki- wrote:DarknessEternal wrote:-Loki- wrote: for free access to the whole range of paints
They let you paint with their paint for free? I'll just add this to the list of reasons I find it mind-boggling that people complain about this company.
Every FLGS I've found, if it has a paint station, lets you use it for free. GW stores do it for free, because they're GW stores. They all have from as far back as I can remember. I haven't found an FLGS yet with a paint station that doesn't let you use it for free.
It's not like you're going to use hundreds of dollars worth of paint unless you're sitting there painting an entire army in a few days.
Emphasis on 'paint with their paint', though not every GW stores does that. Fortunately mine does
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Post by: rockerbikie
Henners91 wrote:-Loki- wrote:DarknessEternal wrote:-Loki- wrote: for free access to the whole range of paints
They let you paint with their paint for free? I'll just add this to the list of reasons I find it mind-boggling that people complain about this company.
Every FLGS I've found, if it has a paint station, lets you use it for free. GW stores do it for free, because they're GW stores. They all have from as far back as I can remember. I haven't found an FLGS yet with a paint station that doesn't let you use it for free.
It's not like you're going to use hundreds of dollars worth of paint unless you're sitting there painting an entire army in a few days.
Emphasis on 'paint with their paint', though not every GW stores does that. Fortunately mine does
That's stupid if a GW stores does not do that, it would make it harder for the Red Shirts to be good "Hobby Developers".
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Post by: Henners91
Meh when I asked to be shown how to base a mini they made me buy the stuff first Automatically Appended Next Post: Hooray for £15 spent on PVA Glue, Sand and Flock..
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Post by: Che-Vito
blood lance wrote:I wanted to roll the dice for him. They wouldnt let me D:
But mostly cus this marine player had approx 30-40% of our overall total in stuff.
Sorry, we have guys at our FLGS like that, and I still would've insisted on giving their army the best chance possible.
Those people treating a WAAC player like crap, is only going to encourage him.
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Post by: Ovion
Last I checked, official GW store policy is to let beginners use the store paints, to get them into the hobby / bolster them till they get their own paints.
The beginners can have their first X models undercoated by staff, get access to the stores paintbox etc.
Vets must provide all their own materials.
It's fair enough to a degree - and often the staff will let you use a little of their paint here and there (i.e. when I was painting my harlies they let me borrow half the case for the 1-2 strokes of each colour I needed, rather than me spending £50 on 20 strokes of colour.) but generally it's a nono.
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Post by: Colonel-Commissar
I'm generally allowed to use some store paint at their paint stations, provided it's not going to get used too much.
As a side note, these stories are hilarious! and a little weird...
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
I know people who used to go to GW every lunch time and paint. I've never seen an Aussie store that didn't let you paint with their stuff.
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Post by: Brother Gyoken
Arm.chair.general wrote:What's with all the GW bashing threads? I thinks that there should be a new DakkaDakka rule:
'thou shalt not make a thread to bash Games-workshop '
You have an entire thread where anyone who posts anything nasty about poor little GW gets their post removed and a warning.
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Post by: Lordhat
Here's a post I made in a similar thread:
Lordhat wrote:So having made BEAUTIFUL tables for the FLGS I worked at, I have one that isn't about models. Here's the item in question:
So this table was never expected to remain in pristine condition, but one day I find somebody's little snot poking the end of his measuring stick into the board as deep as he could. Rage ensues, threats of broken fingers commence, parents are called. After much heated discussion about threatening children I do agree that it was the wrong way to approach the situation and proceed to tell the parents that it was THEIR fault for treating me like a babysitter (the kids were brothers, the oldest was 10), without as much as giving the children a 'behave yourself and listen to the adult in charge'. They were suitably chagrined and apologized, and asked how much to replace the table. After calculating costs (which wasn't hard because we had already done that for tax purposes), adding in my labour on it at $10.00/hour and standard retail markup, then adding a discount because the kids WERE regulars, I told them $350, to replace it. They were undestandably upset. I then told them that the table did not need replacing, but only because I caught the kids in the act, and that telling their kids to act like human beings or else they would be banned for a month would be recompense enough. This worked only because the parents liked to drop their kids off at the shop while they went to the bar (in the same strip mall) and relaxed with THEIR friends; the bar owner was the Mom's brother, and a friend of ours as well. Reaching the parents was a matter of a phone call and a 2 min walk, and even if the parents weren't there, the kids uncle or aunt usually was.
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Post by: Henners91
Did you fix the damage with putty or something?
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Post by: Lordhat
No, the gameboard itself is sitting in the grage waiting for me to make time to refurbish it. The damage from this incident was actually fairly minor; It was just the last straw in a string of "spoiled brat moments", and it was time to let the parents know that their children's behavior towards the other customers and staff needed to change. One time when NOT working for a corporate chain was a benefit.
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Post by: -Loki-
feth that's a nice board.
Do you have any logs on how you made it?
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Post by: Experiment 626
Lordhat wrote:No, the gameboard itself is sitting in the grage waiting for me to make time to refurbish it. The damage from this incident was actually fairly minor; It was just the last straw in a string of "spoiled brat moments", and it was time to let the parents know that their children's behavior towards the other customers and staff needed to change. One time when NOT working for a corporate chain was a benefit.
That's a beautiful table you've crafted there!
I did my fair share of the terrain projects when I worked at the GW store. So freaking annoying when snot-nosed, moronic, disrespectful little terds ruin them. I found a wonderfull solution for fixing my woes however; base all terrain in a mixture of sand+glue = skin-ripping goodness! 
After the first incident where a kid poked his hand and realized it wasn't just plain foam+paint anymore, there was ALOT more care and respect towards our tables & terrain!
Other fun times with bratty kids and/or unwanted goobs;
- Had a kid ask me if his 'conversion' of a tyranid prime was okay for use in a megabattle. Said 'conversion' involved taking a pokemon toy, ripping it's arms off, then gluing on a single scything talon and little bits of cut-up sprue.
And this was a teenager, not some 8 or 9 year old like you'd expect this from!
- Had another kid, (one of the wee ones this time), actually glue every. single. arm/weapon option. onto his space marine captain. Plus add a jump pack that had a heavy bolter, and additional power fist, a storm bolter and a plasma gun glued on top of it!
We called him "Captain Epic-man!" and let little timmy use him just once for fun. All of us who saw that model cried a little inside though at the thought of all those choice bitz gone to such waste...
- Kid who informed us he was home from school because he had a serious case of the flu, but was wanting to hang out while he waited for his perscrip to be filled. Parents were summoned post-haste to remove the foul little scab before he could 'bless' us all with his filthy disese.
- The "I'm the greatest at this game" guy. The guy who'd come in for hours on end and spout nothing but how amazing they are at playing & painting. And then rail about how kids are ruining everything and they'd honestly come in for a game if we'd outright ban all the stupid kids. Or else goes about how moronic the newest rulebook/codex is and how the game was so much better "way back when" and that GW is only pandering to dumb people so they can play too, and that the game would so much better if * they* wrote the rules.
I actually convinced one of these Sad Pandas to throw down - my pure Drop Guard vs their 'unbeatable' Sisters army... 5 turns later, there wasn't a sister in sight and over half a guard army snickering about were women in 40k *really* belong! (someting about sisters all having watches on their stoves and the real reasons behind their chains!?!)
He called me a dirty cheater and claimed i had a broken/ OP list because I took my culexus assassin, and used a dirty trick to keep my inquisitor out of combat who then proceeded to holocaust all but 2 repentia!
(note: this was back in 4th ed and there was no rule forcing IC's to always engage, so I simply surrounded the inquisitor with his 4 lackies who died epic deaths in service to their master!)
- Our 'favourite' customer... You know, the super inapropriate one, who I could smell from down the hall during the summer, who thought they were the most popular and all that... The one who's so foul you feel the need to immediately run home and shower for an hour to feel clean again... Who makes snorting pig sounds and spouts on and on and on about their favourite anime character... The one who who only ever bought models from us through auctions, and their 'weekly contribution' was a pot or two of paint while they bought almost their entire collection off of ebay and such...
The one who gives us a heart attack by trying to priate an internet signal from a near-by Bell Store and brings 'adult' toys into the store thinking it'll be a great laugh?!!
Every. Single. Day. Monday to Friday, we'd dread that time. The time another little part of your soul died as you were forced to endure a torment even your worst enemy wouldn't deserve.
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Post by: Adam LongWalker
Experiment 626 wrote:
- Our 'favourite' customer... You know, the super inapropriate one, who I could smell from down the hall during the summer, who thought they were the most popular and all that... The one who's so foul you feel the need to immediately run home and shower for an hour to feel clean again... Who makes snorting pig sounds and spouts on and on and on about their favourite anime character... The one who who only ever bought models from us through auctions, and their 'weekly contribution' was a pot or two of paint while they bought almost their entire collection off of ebay and such...
Yes I have met several of these bacteria incubators first hand over the +40 years in this hobby (games and modeling of course) in GW and LFG stores. You can even "taste the odor" as well.
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Post by: Shaozun
CthuluIsSpy wrote:I got a story of my own, though it is fairly old (and poorly remembered)
When I was starting WHFB, around the age of 14 or so, I was playing a game at the games workshop over at Melbourne central (I was in AUS at the time). Anyway, its a fairly small store in a mall, and one of the tables was like halfway out. Not on the street obviously, it was in a mall after all, but anyway.
So yeah, I was playing with someguy, and then I felt something poking me. So I turned around and I saw these kids looking at me. I didn't say anything and went back to playing, and I thought nothing of it. Anyway, at the end of the game I noticed that I was missing a skink. I asked the store staff, and after looking under the tables and such we didn't find it. I forgot what happened next, but I think the one of the staff members suspected that it may been been those kids. Said he thought he saw them teasing me or something. So yeah, some bastards may have nicked one of my skinks.
And there are more nasty stories. We always got jerks passing by GW over in aus. We had jocks walk by calling us satanists and whatever. The fact there's no bloody door doesn't help matters.
I am sure there are more, but I can't remember them that well.
Really? We don't have much of any religions present in Australia as a whole, and for someone to mention 'satanists' in public is very... odd. Although we do have a lot of d'bag kids, and Melbourne Central isn't a mall, it's a train station (although that GW moved up near Parliament station IIRC).
Now there's 7 stores left in the state, all very close to Melbourne and only 1 store that does W40k in the Southern metro. Although thankfully the FLGS is near the shopping area but it's very inconspicuous, and he stocks a lot of 3rd party products like GF9 etc.
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Post by: DIDM
Gymnogyps wrote:My horror story is from many years ago. A new GW was scheduled to open up right on my drive home from work. I was super excited because at the time, this was the closest FLGS, and dropping by would break up my brutal commute.
So, I placed a web order, paid online, and requested pick up at the new store (Order was for the newly released Chakax and another new lizardmen blister). A few days later, I checked my order online and saw it was ready for pickup. This was prior even to the "Grand Opening", so I was expecting the normal very friendly / enthusiastic GW atmosphere. In fact, I was looking forward to it, due to the crappy drive.
So I get there, and the immediate atmosphere is stand-offish. No greeting, GW guy looks up with neutral expression. Regardless, I am cheerful and happy, and go straight to the counter, super excited to pick up my order. I say, "Hi, I'm so happy you all have opened in this location!" Response: "OK"
I kinda tilt my head and continue, "So I have a web order for pickup." Response, "We don't have it." Immediate response, no bother to look. I said, "No, I checked, my web account says it was delivered here".
The GW guy says: Did you get a call from us?
Me: No.
GW guy: Then we don't have it.
Me: But here is my printout saying it is here to pickup.
GW guy, rolling eyes: Oh, that is you. Your order didn't have a phone number. You should learn how to enter it.
Me, stunned: Uh, I did. I don't know why it didn't go through, maybe something is wrong with the system. Anyway, can I have my order?
GW guy, with contempt: Fine, I'll get it. But you need to enter your phone number.
Me: Uhh... why? I'm here. You have the items. Can I just have my stuff please?
GW guy sneers. He walks to the back.
I'm really, really puzzled at this point, but chalk it up to dude having a bad day, whatever. So I go talk to another guy in street clothes, sitting near by, painting the newly released Stegadon. I try to strike up a convo, about the new lizardmen, excitement about the new releases, about painting, the mini, anything. Nothing but monosyllable responses, snotty, condescending. As it turns out, this is another GW employee, in on personal time.
Other GW guy comes back, and I'm still trying. I ask if they had heard anything about some rumor on the internet- completely light and open, just a, "Hey, have you guys heard anything about..." (can't remember what, now)
GW guy: WHERE DID YOU HEAR THAT?
Me: Dakka or Warseer... kinda interesting, that is all.
GW guy: The internet is for losers. Anyone on the internet is a troll.
He's is clearly targeting this comment directly at me.
Other guy: Heh heh yeah, internet is for losers.
Again, targeted directly at me.
These guys are so nasty they don't even get the irony that I was lambasted for not working the internets correctly (phone number), but then I'm a troll for being on the internet. At this point, I am completely offended. I silently pay and leave. I am ready, right then, to quit and sell every last GW product I own, and if I can't sell it, burn it.
I talk to a friend, who knows the regional manager. Regional manager asks me to come to lunch, apologizes, and comps me a Stegadon. I find out later that both were fired, not because of this, but I still am relieved they aren't around anymore.
That regional manager kept me involved in GW, but I still will not step foot in that store. It can rot for all I care.
says the 2 guys who probably live online
the interwebs have made us a more connected species if nothing less
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Post by: Experiment 626
DIDM wrote:Gymnogyps wrote:
...These guys are so nasty they don't even get the irony that I was lambasted for not working the internets correctly (phone number), but then I'm a troll for being on the internet. At this point, I am completely offended. I silently pay and leave. I am ready, right then, to quit and sell every last GW product I own, and if I can't sell it, burn it.
I talk to a friend, who knows the regional manager. Regional manager asks me to come to lunch, apologizes, and comps me a Stegadon. I find out later that both were fired, not because of this, but I still am relieved they aren't around anymore.
That regional manager kept me involved in GW, but I still will not step foot in that store. It can rot for all I care.
says the 2 guys who probably live online
the interwebs have made us a more connected species if nothing less
Well, I recall as a lowly redshirt there were the few times we'd get told to outright deny internet rumors, such as the rumors for 8th ed that were being touted over a year before the release. Why? Because it was over a year away and we wanted to keep selling the current rulebook that was on the shelf that was still current for another 12-14 months!
Of corse, by March/April it wasn't even possible to pretend like nothing was forthcoming. But 6-12 months before the release? Damn stait we didn't want people coming in and trying to tell everyone, "don't buy 7th right now man, 8th is coming out in like only a year from next month!" (such a comment earned you a very quick and uncerimonious exit along with an invite to stay away for a few weeks!)
When pestered about rumors and what was the next release, I'd simply say, 'well, I read what you read on warseer/dakka and know that you know that I know what you know!" Pretty much lightened the mood and then I could continue discussing things like, "damn strait I hope that's true... Would be awsome if they do that" and similar.
There is honestly no such thing as a 'bad' GW store or FLGS - only d-bag staff who pollute the place and work against what should be the store's goal of fostering the hobby to garner & grow the community & the sales that come with it. (okay, bad stores exist, but typically only when they're located in the middle of malls undergoing massive renos and/or when disaster strikes!)
There were plenty of utterly s staff at the Burlington store throughout its ten year lifespan. I never hated 'the store' however, just those staff that made the place poisonous. When I'd walk by, if I saw one of the staffers I really couldn't stand and who treated me like dirt, I just kept walking on by. Next time, if the one or two staffers I really liked and were always cool to pretty much everyone were on shift, I'd go in, spend some time painting, maybe play a game and then purchase what I wanted.
If a staff memeber was a *real* tool to me, I'd call HQ when I got home and give them my side of the story. Only had to do that a couple times honestly... Once was when a staff member made some sexist comments about me and what they thought of 'girls hockey' which was insanely demeaning. The other time was when I was trying to rehab a knee injury I'd suffered in a hockey game, and I asked if I could sit down for a minute at the table as it was the middle of the day and the store was empty - staffer told me to go gimp-walk to the food court or else use a pay phone to call an ambulance!
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Post by: DIDM
Experiment 626 wrote:DIDM wrote:Gymnogyps wrote:
...These guys are so nasty they don't even get the irony that I was lambasted for not working the internets correctly (phone number), but then I'm a troll for being on the internet. At this point, I am completely offended. I silently pay and leave. I am ready, right then, to quit and sell every last GW product I own, and if I can't sell it, burn it.
I talk to a friend, who knows the regional manager. Regional manager asks me to come to lunch, apologizes, and comps me a Stegadon. I find out later that both were fired, not because of this, but I still am relieved they aren't around anymore.
That regional manager kept me involved in GW, but I still will not step foot in that store. It can rot for all I care.
says the 2 guys who probably live online
the interwebs have made us a more connected species if nothing less
Well, I recall as a lowly redshirt there were the few times we'd get told to outright deny internet rumors, such as the rumors for 8th ed that were being touted over a year before the release. Why? Because it was over a year away and we wanted to keep selling the current rulebook that was on the shelf that was still current for another 12-14 months!
Of corse, by March/April it wasn't even possible to pretend like nothing was forthcoming. But 6-12 months before the release? Damn stait we didn't want people coming in and trying to tell everyone, "don't buy 7th right now man, 8th is coming out in like only a year from next month!" (such a comment earned you a very quick and uncerimonious exit along with an invite to stay away for a few weeks!)
When pestered about rumors and what was the next release, I'd simply say, 'well, I read what you read on warseer/dakka and know that you know that I know what you know!" Pretty much lightened the mood and then I could continue discussing things like, "damn strait I hope that's true... Would be awsome if they do that" and similar.
There is honestly no such thing as a 'bad' GW store or FLGS - only d-bag staff who pollute the place and work against what should be the store's goal of fostering the hobby to garner & grow the community & the sales that come with it. (okay, bad stores exist, but typically only when they're located in the middle of malls undergoing massive renos and/or when disaster strikes!)
There were plenty of utterly s staff at the Burlington store throughout its ten year lifespan. I never hated 'the store' however, just those staff that made the place poisonous. When I'd walk by, if I saw one of the staffers I really couldn't stand and who treated me like dirt, I just kept walking on by. Next time, if the one or two staffers I really liked and were always cool to pretty much everyone were on shift, I'd go in, spend some time painting, maybe play a game and then purchase what I wanted.
If a staff memeber was a *real* tool to me, I'd call HQ when I got home and give them my side of the story. Only had to do that a couple times honestly... Once was when a staff member made some sexist comments about me and what they thought of 'girls hockey' which was insanely demeaning. The other time was when I was trying to rehab a knee injury I'd suffered in a hockey game, and I asked if I could sit down for a minute at the table as it was the middle of the day and the store was empty - staffer told me to go gimp-walk to the food court or else use a pay phone to call an ambulance!
not sure what you quoted me for
I was saying that the guys at his local GW were just trolling, and then I get a wall of text that I honestly can't be bothered to read since, what I said is not worthy of 1000 plus characters
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Post by: mondo80
The ONLY GW store in my area (New England, Conn.) closed down a couple years ago, the redshirts there were pretty nice. I annihilated nearly ever player who came in w/ my necrons
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Post by: Lordhat
-Loki- wrote:feth that's a nice board.
Do you have any logs on how you made it?
No, but there's a tutorial on here (I JUST saw it the other day) on making a lava board. Despite some aesthetic differences, it's exactly how we made the one in my post.
EDIT: Here's the link: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/243963.page
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Post by: wowsmash
Not a GW story but a LGS story.
Go in to buy cube o dice. They are out so I ask if I could order some. Their response we don need to place that order we have chess ex dice! What?
Go in to buy some brushes and of course their out. Ask if I could order some. Their answer "no". Nothing else. I stand their for a second then ask why. He says they won't be making an order for sometime. Something to do with how GW requires them to make a certain size order each time. Sounds possible but anything this particular guy tells me is suspect since I've caught him lying to me before.
My favorite though. I go in to browse he metals rack to see if there's any metal orks (I don't care for finecast) and I'm in luck there's a captain bradukk on the rack. First thought is woot. Then I flip it over and see the price. 45$. So I go up to the counter to see if it's a mistake. Of course it's the same guy again. Always the same guy even though they have other workers, I'm cursed with this guy. It's not a mistake so I just kinda stare at him for a sec and try to put something into words and all I can get out is why? His response is that's what it cost them to get it. Huh? GW only charges 25 for it. So unless somebody straight up hosed you how did it cost 45 dollars. I put the fig back and left.
Where is the customer service. Hello, you are a store. I assume you want to make money. I am new to this hobby true so maybe dealing with hobby stores is a different beast than other stores. I'm just not used to being told No by clerks/owners of retail shops when my request are not unreasonable. What makes it worse is I'm stuck with this place as my only local store. There are 2 others if I dive an hour north or south but that's a little difficult with gas as high as it is now :(
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Post by: Ian Sturrock
Unfortunately a lot of LGS are owned by people who were gamers long before they were businesspeople. Slightly worse are the ones owned by people who are still gamers and will never be businesspeople. Worst of all are the ones owned by people who used to be gamers, and are now so jaded at having realised they will never be businesspeople, that they also hate games, gaming, and gamers.
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Post by: CthuluIsSpy
Shaozun wrote:CthuluIsSpy wrote:I got a story of my own, though it is fairly old (and poorly remembered)
When I was starting WHFB, around the age of 14 or so, I was playing a game at the games workshop over at Melbourne central (I was in AUS at the time). Anyway, its a fairly small store in a mall, and one of the tables was like halfway out. Not on the street obviously, it was in a mall after all, but anyway.
So yeah, I was playing with someguy, and then I felt something poking me. So I turned around and I saw these kids looking at me. I didn't say anything and went back to playing, and I thought nothing of it. Anyway, at the end of the game I noticed that I was missing a skink. I asked the store staff, and after looking under the tables and such we didn't find it. I forgot what happened next, but I think the one of the staff members suspected that it may been been those kids. Said he thought he saw them teasing me or something. So yeah, some bastards may have nicked one of my skinks.
And there are more nasty stories. We always got jerks passing by GW over in aus. We had jocks walk by calling us satanists and whatever. The fact there's no bloody door doesn't help matters.
I am sure there are more, but I can't remember them that well.
Really? We don't have much of any religions present in Australia as a whole, and for someone to mention 'satanists' in public is very... odd. Although we do have a lot of d'bag kids, and Melbourne Central isn't a mall, it's a train station (although that GW moved up near Parliament station IIRC).
Now there's 7 stores left in the state, all very close to Melbourne and only 1 store that does W40k in the Southern metro. Although thankfully the FLGS is near the shopping area but it's very inconspicuous, and he stocks a lot of 3rd party products like GF9 etc.
Well, he didn't say "satanists" exactly. But I am sure he mentioned the devil/black magic/hell. Something along that bullgak. As I said, it was a long time ago.
And yes, melbourne central was a train station. It was also a commercial center, due to the heavy presence of stores, hence me calling it a "mall"
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Post by: pretre
Experiment 626 wrote:I actually convinced one of these Sad Pandas to throw down - my pure Drop Guard vs their 'unbeatable' Sisters army... 5 turns later, there wasn't a sister in sight and over half a guard army snickering about were women in 40k *really* belong! (someting about sisters all having watches on their stoves and the real reasons behind their chains!?!)
Aww, why'd you go ahead and ruin such a nice story.
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Post by: Agent_Tremolo
My relationship with GW staff has always been one of respectful coldness. I ask for my wares, pay for them and politely say my goodbyes. Sometimes I'll make a nice remark on their minis or their tables, but that's about all. I'm not there to make friends.
I've never been too big on this "shopping as an experience" and "emotional capital" corporate mumbo-jumbo. I just buy my things and leave as quickly as I can. And often, when I see them wrestling with hordes of the annoying spawn of the well-off, I think I'm actually doing them a favor.
Now don't get me wrong, I DO socialize around wargames. It's just that GW stores make me slightly uneasy, as if I was invading someone else's workplace. Gaming or painting there feels like throwing a wild party in the middle of a call center.
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Post by: AegisGrimm
I think the stories of bad GW (or LGS) employees is the age old folly of giving nerds the illusion of power. It's not always true, but when you give someone who's been in an outcast-type social group the idea that they 'outrank' you, they either become a good mentor, or Dr. Evil.
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