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I dig it. The ensignia and storm shield in particular stand out to me. One thing I do not like however is the beakie helm on a termie. It's a preference thing though and I don't think it takes away from 'terminator' much if at all.

You know I really don't get how anyone could have a problem with counts as when it's just a color scheme, especially if the rest of the models are done well like this one.

dude, I love it
I'm doing an all beaky army currently, and I wussed out on the terminators.
now that I've seen it done, I may need to go back and do 2 more squads.
thanks for the inspiration!

I like it too!

However, I'd consider bare faced =I=, it just adds so much character. I'd also add a lot of foil purity seals to all of them and do additional detailing on the =I=s armor since you can handle sculpting like so!

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Hellfury great work man!

I converted some Blood Angel Terminators along a similar concept a few years back, I'll have to post pics sometime soon.

I love the helms, actually if you look at the really old terminator artwork and models from the first Space Hulk they often had these kinds of helmets.

So I think they work nicely to give them a more archaic and artificer feel.

Top stuff though dude looking forward to seeing them painted.

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They look great....

I PERSONALLY HATE THE BEAKIES on terminators. But the rest of em look awesome. Maybe you could try chopping the nose off a few of them to give them a differentish face if that makes sense? Also, a few bare heads thrown in there can't hurt!

So whats wrong with good old fists for lysander?

I love it! Great theme and execution. On esuggestion... Ihate the hound helmets as well. I used Berzerker helms and cut off everything so they just have  a greek looking "T" visor helm. The fit well and look great on termies. You may want to give it a try on a squad.

Keep up the great work... and expect me steal your apothecary idea.

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These all look good! Something that came up in my mind however is this: why did you choose to use plastic termies rather than grey knights? Is it because you have 11 unopened boxes sitting around? Do you want to customize them? Marvelous job, regardless.

You'll have to forgive me as I'm relatively new to all this......but, I've read the thread beginning twice and I still can't work it out.....is this an Imperial Fists Terminator force or an Inquisitorial force?

If its an Inquisitorial force, why use Imperial Fist rules? and whats the significance of Lysander? He'd only be relevant if it was an Imperial Fists force....if its not, then big deal????

Are these Space Marines or "normal" humans in Terminator armour?

I'm sorry but with these questions its hard to really appreciate the thought and effort gone into these miniatures. I like them, but I can't picture where they "fit in"......

...HELP!!

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The beakies are okay, I guess it works.

I'm glad to see that you're driving that Termie Apothecary idea in the ground.

Here is the part in the post where I bray like a donkey at you because you spent six hundred dollars on dollies! HA-HA!!

I mean really! I could buy a car for that much money!

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The Pernicious Purple Pieman of Porcupine Peak has three Baneblades, plenty of piping hot pieplates to give to the good little boys and grrrls.

I'll just start off by saying that the beakie heads look great! I actually don't like the normal terminator heads and this is the best alternative I've seen. I also really like the brown stuff icons. I can't wait to see more of it!

Mmm "counts as" ...

I like 'em Hellfury, the beaky heads work well and that cast shoulder ikon is quite nice. The only thing I don't like is the insistance on them not being marines - I just don't find it that workable that this is an entire army of humans in highly modified terminator armor, with the special weapons totted by more ranking officers and such ... But that's all fluff, and I'm sure you've got some solid stuff behind it. Calling the army a super-secret marine force dedicated to a high-ranking but particularly shadowy Inquisitor works fine for me

Luck with the rest of the madness, I look forward to pics of those boxes all banged together!

- Salvage

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if these are not Marines, then mt old bug-bear rears its head......SCALE

Like they are in scale to begin with.

Fan-tastic.

so, I only have an extra 3 boxes of terminators, not 11
but I am just wondering, is it difficult to make the beaky helmets fit in the terminator head slots?
I just don't want to butcher any helmets, as I've been begging and trading like mad to get them.
thanks for any advice

Posted By whitedragon on 09/06/2007 11:44 AM
Like they are in scale to begin with.

Watch this space......

Posted By Hellfury on 09/05/2007 1:33 AM
Thanks. It gets better when you see a plural of corvus on the termie bodies.
I have no idea either. Some people just hate going against GW canon so much that they view any creativity to be bad. Personally, if they feel that strongly about it, they are probably in the wrong hobby.

See that's not why I hate the look of corvus helms on termie bodies at all.  I hate the way any power armour helmets look on terminator bodies.  The only exceptions I've found are some of the knightly looking helms from the BT plastics.  I've seen a few conversions with those that seem decent looking. 

I think my problem with the look is that, to me, it looks like a power armour helmet in a terminator armour body.  You're taking two established armours and mixing them.  The result just feels and looks odd.  It's not a GW canon thing as much as it's a matter of trying to mesh together two different visual elements without making the viewer think too much about where the different elements came from.

After rereading my answer I suppose I've let GW background enter into my through process, but it's not an intentional thing for me.  I don't see it as a "female space marine" issue, where it looks wrong because it clashes with established canon.

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It might be fun to stick a Sisters of Battle head on a Termie or two, maybe using the spares from a Immolator kit, to really drive home the "NOT MARINES" theme. Of course my desire for such might be based on my irritation I can't put my cannoness in termie armor. Still, it might be pretty cool, and serve to visually seperate the army further from Marines with Different Colors issue.

Oh please. I know for a fact that Hellfury made these conversions as an answer to
Doc Thunder's Female Space marines. Terminator Armor has always had room for
extra boobage.

Posted By malfred on 09/09/2007 6:42 AM
Oh please. I know for a fact that Hellfury made these conversions as an answer to
Doc Thunder's Female Space marines. Terminator Armor has always had room for
extra boobage.

It's true- that's why the Space Wolves love termie armour so much.  The whole "bear" thing they've got going on is just a thinly veiled cover-up of their huge, hairy cleavage.

I'm liking the conversions Hellfury.
I'm a fan of how the beakie marine helms look.

Keep going with the theme, its a big sci-fi universe, and I like it and wouldn't have any problems playing against it.

Get some painted pics up so we can enjoy them some more...

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Cool, another effective and well executed conversion. Do you intend to build everything first, or do we see painted ones soon?

You should include a count as Techmarine with servitors repping a biologis team fighting the plague, or somethin like that I also loved the Thorian Source material and art. It has inspired my GD entry for 2008.

Very nice, the Corvis heads on the Termie frames look ace.

For a second I thought you named it "Ordo Speculum" and shuddered thinking "Never mind the Sisters idea... no woman wants to be anywhere near these people..."

The snipers look pretty great though. I might suggest that your troops be some of the more aggressive unit types, things which deliver the fury of the Emperor. Snipers fit the "scalpel of the Emperor" idea well I think, but a scientific theme only goes so far with lots of men in terminator armor. At least it seems to me now; I am certain to change my mind when I see it all done and drown in Inquisition inspired drool.

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I dig it.

Just curious, why no neato basing for the termies?

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beakies - best heads for SM's
termies - best models for SM's
Result - pure class

one of my vet squads is pure beakie, just love the look of em, and kinda annoyed you only get 2 in a tac squad :(

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im now thinking about making a mega armour ork army to fight against this
could be amusing, 100's of 2+ saves and power fist / klaw attacks

Wow really interesting! At fist I was expecting a bit more individuality between every single model. I think the beaky helmet idea will look even better once everything is painted. I did notice the holes you drilled on the storm bolters seam a bit tiny. I do like the use of the PP style bases. Kudos!

i love the beakie helmets
might have to make a version or the beakie for orks
and just the head swap and a few details make them look brilliant.

ps; where did you get the =I= pads from?

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I love 'em, Hellfury. Nice stuff.

I'm impressed that they had that many terminator boxes to do that for you. When I look at the bitz catalog on The Warstore these days, about half of their items are sold out. When I've asked when they'll be restocked, I get an answer that they're not sure. <shrug>

BWB?
sorry, not too good with names, i could do with a few for some GK termy convertions.

tried warstore
i find them useles for selling in bulk :K
jump packs have been OOS for over a month :K

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BWB = Battlewagon Bitz - which was bought and now run by The Warstore.

ah, thanks monkey, any other good places to order large ammounts of parts?
need to buy around 50 sevo skulls soon, and need a place that will have them in stock.
(2 on one of the DA sprues i think, or the dev. not too sure)

Not anywhere reliably, no. (Damn you, GW bitz policy!)

i ordered some bitz from ebay and got them cheaper then retail with no postage and im sure its in bulk (well some items) but im in australia so it may take a few weeks to be delivered. i think the store is called back to basix

anways always been a fan of beakies and i <3 ur terminator conversions, simple yet effective. keep up the good work!

Cheers,
Gutteridge

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Fantastic stuff Hellfury. I love the MK6 helmets too and took advantage of the early prices of them years ago as well. Shame the prices went up, but supply/demand.

Love the Libby and brownstuff. I don't think there's anything more satisfying than an all original build like this.

In reference to Bits dealers, I have gotten my last 5 bits orders from Bits and Kits UK.

+FORGEWORLD BITS!!!
+prices are competative with BWB (often cheaper)
+shipping ranges from cheap to free
+shipping from UK to USA averages 4 days

I really can't say enough about these guys. Definitely worth checking out.

What's the tabard bit on the Chappy/Libby from, Hellfury?

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This project is shaping up to be made of pure awesome saturated with win and genious.
Seriously, that group picture of all the termies all lines up in row is one of the more
awesome things I've seen these last months.

Great project, and good luck when you start painting!

Also, not sure if it has been mentioned, but have look at the forums for the Dark Heresy
game over at the Fantasy Flight Games webpage. The folks who post there really know
their fluff, they might be able to help you out, should you be looking for additional
information.

al-Majid Agandhjin bin Ahfal al-Rashid

Hellfury wrote:That is a groin guard from the assault terminator box set. This one is a sgt groin guard.

All my termies are equipped with them. Its best to always go into battle protecting your junk. Which is also why I always use helmet heads.

Important points for all the kids at home to remember.

Might I suggest magnetizing a skull helmet so that you could play him as either a Chap or a Lib?

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What do the halos do? I looked but didn't see any fluff?

They look like the Statue of Liberty or something. Not that it's bad, just confusing what it is they are?

Stelek wrote:What do the halos do? I looked but didn't see any fluff?

They look like the Statue of Liberty or something. Not that it's bad, just confusing what it is they are?

Hellfury wrote:Since this is an Inquisitorial army, I have to do away with alot of what is seen as a Space marine. Skullz mostly. If you look closely and are astute, you will notice that a ton of skulls (and assorted other iconography) are carved off.
The next thing to go was the Crux Terminatus. The Inquisition has far better ways of protecting their bretheren through the use of refractor fields, as evinced by the pseudo-halos the whole army has. This is so I can use the Inquisitor shoulder pads in place of the Crux terminatus, and allows me to say that the halos have a use for fluff rationale.

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Hellfury wrote:I bought 61 of those from BWB around 3 years ago for this project. (I own 14 boxes, so I have 14 by default for a total of 75)

That's a lot of DW Termy pads. I had to go through 3 different sources just to get the 20 I have in my Deathwatch army. I have a few that a guy cast for me (they're resin, but they look like white chocolate! ).

BYE

Hellfury wrote:On a more positive note, its a new page so we dont have to deal with my horrendous pic sizing.

And my coworkers think I rely too much on the double entendre.

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I like it, although it could suffer from the gray marine syndrome of, "Did you just paint the shoulder pads?"

And you've checked out GMMStudios Heavy Metal marines thread in the Modeling and Painting forum for the verdigris stuff he's done lately, right?

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NP - check 'em out here: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/216665.page

Don't do grey. It never ever turns out right.

Especially not from across the room, or even across the tabletop.

Avoid like plague.

Stelek wrote:Don't do grey. It never ever turns out right.
Especially not from across the room, or even across the tabletop.
Avoid like plague.

I actually agree with Stelek & DBM. I wouldnt do the grey. The verdrigris idea is fine and should look cool, but I would rethink the grey.

Grey could possibly work if you lean it more towards a warmer or cooler grey, and shade it with something other than just black.

If you do grey you will have to go for som eextreme highlights for the details to pop. You'll have to go all the way to skull white from blacklines.

And if they are inquisition force why not go for the red ][ ?

ender502

Right - I mean, the Space Wolves gray is way too blue, but what about a more brownish-gray? Leaning towards a khaki or tan? Granted, then you start getting folks confusing your army with Deathwing.

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Hellfury wrote:I am thinking....hmmm perhaps a bluish green base to work from.

A nice anti-septic-y blue-green would be quite appropriate for them - there's a shade of that in GMMStudios Heavy Metal marines that I think would be a great starting point.

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I say use the Banner Capital from the new SM Captain. And I really like the Argent Shroud logo for this - very appropriate.

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How about instead of a banner or a vehicle or a terrain piece...since you seem intent on going over the top...

Why don't you make it a flaming cage of imprisoned soulskulls a terminator librarian is fetching "ammo" out of and tossing at a enemy?

Or something equally nuts and dramatic.

Think original Doom hellknights, that kind of thing.

I'm sure you get the drift.

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lookin great, the standard bearer looks wicked

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i like the new one, somewhat darker, just seem right, looks fairly lunar wolves

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did a quick search through the vallejo model colors and came up with a seemingly good fit from the swatches.

995 German Grey

Another quick note about grey as an army base color:

It's all about the accessory colors. You need that striking counterbalance to the otherwise drab base color.

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If you do the new scheme in the B&C beta painter, it'll give you a list of the paints the colour you chose closely resembles from various paint companies.

SoG

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I'd also go with the Vallejo model colors. They have good range of dark grays to choose from so if you have a game store near by which stocks them I suggest you go there and select the closest one from the rack.

Dammit PAINT SOMETHING already. I'm jealous and want to see another cool Inquisitorial-style army.

Oh and your comment was hilarious in that other thread. Made my snort milk out my nose.

Drake_Marcus wrote:

Posted By malfred on 09/09/2007 6:42 AM
Oh please. I know for a fact that Hellfury made these conversions as an answer to
Doc Thunder's Female Space marines. Terminator Armor has always had room for
extra boobage.

It's true- that's why the Space Wolves love termie armour so much.  The whole "bear" thing they've got going on is just a thinly veiled cover-up of their huge, hairy cleavage.

Sig'd.

Looking great, I recommend painting them in a Crimson and regal blue palatte, as that seems, well, regal and befitting of a inquisitor.

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i dont understand

why are all Hellfurys posts just a single full stop?

I guess he's quit.

Pity, they were looking really good.

it is a shame he stopped they looked great