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Post by: namegoeshere
Ok obviously it is pointless questioning gw style/fluff but for this thread only = what are the things in 40k that don't make sense to you.
Giant hats - why do so many people in 40k have giant hats. You'll get shot
Giant shoulder pads - the shoulder isn't a vital organ - or a smart place to place weight, why is it so big? Just because we love the 80's?
Giant clumpy feet/ flared leg armor - would make moving really slow and difficult
Cheer up / give peace a change - I'm just kidding
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Post by: Jarran
Officers/sergeants not wearing helmets- it's like asking to be shot in the head
Spikey armor- this is for CSM what if they got cought on something like a tank tread and wouldn't they unbalance the armor?
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Post by: LunaHound
Not sure if im doing this right , but there is one thing thats always bothering me.
Why dont GW make better quality miniature with proper
body proportion ratios like Forge World's have.
*edit big shoulder pads hmm... Broad shoulders represent strength
and generally tough looking.
That and raised shoulder pads actually protects neck area.
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Post by: JD21290
That and raised shoulder pads actually protects neck area.
and thats what MK IX errent armour is for 
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Post by: whatwhat
Well shoulders aren't a vital organ but if you don't have arms you can't fight, so it's worth protecting them. Saying that marine armour in particular is the most useless clunky armour ever, its like chain swords, good as fiction rubbish in reality.
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Post by: themandudeperson
whatwhat wrote:Well shoulders aren't a vital organ but if you don't have arms you can't fight
LIES! Space Marines are sooo tough they'd chew their opponents into oblivion if their arms were cut off! IT'S ONLY A FLESH WOUND!
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Post by: P4NC4K3
whatwhat wrote: its like chain swords, good as fiction rubbish in reality.
I don't know, a chainsword is perfectly serviceable and makes a neat job of your garden hedge
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Post by: namegoeshere
A power saw would make more sense...
Tau style shoulder pads make more sense... but would make shooting while lying down difficult, which is pretty stupid.
Space Marines, trained for 20 years or so. But don't seem to learn any self preservation... Actually that applies to all the armies in 40k. Makes sense for Nids and Orks
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Post by: themandudeperson
Why do devotees to Slaanesh even bother to fight.. Wouldn't they be too busy fondling themselves and each other to worry about killing anyone?
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Post by: KingCracker
Well Ive heard that when serial killers kill, they get a super god like high. Id imagine that following Slaanesh would increase that godlike sensation to beyond mortal emotional boundaries....
hmm... I hate how fluffwise SM are super invincible killing machines, yet playing against them with my Orks, they are mearly good at the killing part. My regular boyz mobs can kick the living gak out of SM in CC. I think they need to tone down the mega man fluff a tad.
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Post by: namegoeshere
Yeah 5 marines v 50 orks is what I imagine with fluff
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Post by: CaptainRavenclaw
I bet if you were to refight a heroic story, the space marines would be very unheroic and would all have died by turn 6. So much for being superhuman warriors and the emperor's finest! And if thats the way they play in the game they would surely all be wiped out!
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Post by: warpcrafter
Wow, it seems either some people have sniffed too much glue or not enough. Either way, remember, NEVER mix 40K and reality. It's a losing proposition. 
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Post by: The Thousandth Son
Worshiping the Emperor.
70's style leg plates for SMs, they look like bell bottoms.
Comissars/Inquisitors with three foot hats.
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Post by: Alpharius
JD21290 wrote:That and raised shoulder pads actually protects neck area.
and thats what MK IX errent armour is for
You mean MKVIII "Errant" Armor, right? (I only point this out as I'm a BIG fan of that style of armor and I'm working on a big MK8 project as we speak!)
Anyway, I think that the shoulder pad/armor area of a Space Marine does provide a certain amount of extra protection for them from certain angles, and provides an area for the display of Chapter and Squad badges, both of which are an important part of being a Space Marine and all that...
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Post by: Nofasse 'Eadhunta
What's the deal with those Daemons? I mean they're everywhere!
And what's the deal with those Dark Eldar? Are they even holding their breath for their new Cod---*head implodes.*
Gav Thorpe: Heheh that'll teach 'em to spread rumors of MY...err...THE new DE 'dex.
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Post by: halonachos
A reason that they have large shoulder pads is that if you look at modern armor used by the military and S.W.A.T have spots underneath the small shoulder pads where bullets can get past, go through the arm, into the torso, and through the heart and both lungs. The large shoulder pads prevent this because the armor begins when the shoulder pad ends.
But, why oh why do the eldar have to look like elves? Is it because they both have names that begin with E?
And why do they use solid swords in the 40k universe, I mean 30,000 years isn't enough time to research and make lightsabers?
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Post by: Tek
What?
There is no reason why SM have large shoulderpads; it's certainly not a tactical decision, so don't make it sound so, halon... They are big because they look ace, and were invented in the 80s.
[edit] Oh and anyway, SM have like 7 hearts and 33 lungs anyway. Plus their ribcage is all fused together and it's a foot thick.
Why do Eldar begin with elves? Is it because they both begin with "E"?
Erm... yes. Eldar were originally called the Space Elves.
I believe Eldar is also an adjective used to describe WFB elves?
I'll let someone else pick you up on the swords thing. Clue: Dark age of Technology.
I do agree with the fluff vs play thing though. I'd love to play a game where my SM opponent gets 30 models and I get 1'000, even if mine are traitor IG!!
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Post by: Kung Fu Jim
If Nork Deddog can drag a chimera, why isn't his stats higher for strength? And why do Imperial guard still ride horses?
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Post by: Deff Dread red Edition
Is the Imperuim of humanity really on the verge of dying out I mean a whole galaxy!Billions and billions of planets with maybe feral people on them or other advanced human cultures,I don't belive that it is in trouble.
EDIT-How much must it cost to take Martha and the kids and Spot the dog for a holiday on another planet?
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Post by: Nofasse 'Eadhunta
And what's the deal with all those rivets in people's armor? Is it like in the grim darkness of the far future there is no welding?
And what about that Nightbringer? I see him on the battlefield yes but it's still daytime when he's there! Kinda defeats the whole purpose of being the Nightbringer if you can't actually bring night.
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Post by: The Thousandth Son
Tek wrote:
I believe Eldar is also an adjective used to describe WFB elves?
The Eldar were a race of elves in Tolkien's works.
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Post by: namegoeshere
Surely if a guys ribs were all fused together he wouldn't be able to breath? The chest has to expand to expand the lungs, the ribs have to be able to work like bellows, right?
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Post by: He Who Stood
^^ the second set of ribs are fused together.
why are solid slugs more powerful than lasers?
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Post by: Jack of all games
themandudeperson wrote:Why do devotees to Slaanesh even bother to fight.. Wouldn't they be too busy fondling themselves and each other to worry about killing anyone?
Because it's not just about the sex. It's also about the pain. MMMMMmmmm pain!
Slaanesh is all about the experiencing the extreme of anything. What's more extreme than a live battlefield?
Adrenalin roaring through you. Blood and gore everywhere. A cacophony of loud explosions and gun fire.
Oh yeah baby! 
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Post by: Jack of all games
I want to know why Space Marines, according to fluff, are supposed to be these huge mountains of men that would make you and I strain our necks to see them eye-to-eye, but yet the minis aren't any taller than the average Imperial Guardsman.
Even Terminators seem puny to what they actually should be.
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Post by: namegoeshere
^ yeah, just make the guard models smaller... or don't but it would be neat
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Post by: PanzerSmurf
My answer to the title: just dont...
And yeah, marines SHOULD be bigger!
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Post by: namegoeshere
How can Tuvok use the same Vulcan neck grip on any Alien, surely they have sufficiently different nerve ending points for it to just not work?
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Post by: halonachos
Tek wrote:What?
There is no reason why SM have large shoulderpads; it's certainly not a tactical decision, so don't make it sound so, halon... They are big because they look ace, and were invented in the 80s.
[edit] Oh and anyway, SM have like 7 hearts and 33 lungs anyway. Plus their ribcage is all fused together and it's a foot thick.
Well, the SM are supposed to be unkillable, but I was talking about the hammer of the emperor  . Average joes need shoulder pads that extend to where the armor begins to protect them. Besides, 80's shoulders went out vertically while the 40k shoulder pads extend horizontally. 
Tek wrote:
I'll let someone else pick you up on the swords thing. Clue: Dark age of Technology.
Even so, they still have plasma pistols, guns, cannons, and plasma hand dryers. So why not plasma swords. I mean even the IG have frikkin' laser guns attached to their frikkin' heads(or hands), so laser swords or plasma swords should be possible.
Oh, and where's the duct tape of the future, so far I've only heard of det tape, but that takes things apart instead of keeping it together. 
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Post by: Lint
Why isn't there more sex in 40k? Why do sm even have c**ks? They can't reproduce, and they're too busy praying in their free time to do a solo "excersize", so really what's the point of a dangler? Actually, in that case what's the point of life?
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Post by: halonachos
The point of life in 40k is to amuse the emperor and gods of chaos who liked playing warhammer fantasy as children.
There is more sex in 40k, I believe some sob orders are ordered to have children to supply the IG. Who says that the morning "drills" aren't what they allude to be.
Why do CSM like horns so much, are they *cough*gay*cough*?
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Post by: Jack of all games
halonachos wrote:
Why do CSM like horns so much, are they *cough*gay*cough*?
Oooh! They so horny! They ruv you rong time!
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Post by: namegoeshere
Wouldn't titans work better if they weren't on very long legs? How do they not fall over? Just 3 legs would make so much more sense
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Post by: Mekboy
Wouldn't titans completely fail anyway?
You're a nice tall target, and if you get a decent hit anywhere on the legs it would be good as dead.
And for that matter, why so much pointing?
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Post by: Septic
Lint wrote:Why isn't there more sex in 40k? Why do sm even have c**ks? They can't reproduce, and they're too busy praying in their free time to do a solo "excersize", so really what's the point of a dangler? Actually, in that case what's the point of life?
Really, coming (heeheehee COMING! ) from someone with a baby avatar that just creeps me out 
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Post by: namegoeshere
Well babies and sex do go together... Wait that sounds terrible...
The titans would at least make sense if the bipedal stance meant they were more agile than a tank, but they aren't.
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Post by: halonachos
Why don't they attach the legs to tanks or have feet made completely out of tanks?
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Post by: cadbren
If gellar fields keep you safe when travelling through the warp, why don't hives etc have them to reduce the chance of chaos manifesting on an imperial world?
Why can't the life eater virus or similar be used against tyranid ships in space instead of using lasers and ordinance weapons?
How is it that city sized space ships can be built with ease but making a puny titan or baneblade is considered difficult?
Why aren't teleporters used more in battle?
When does a human become an ogryn? Do ogryns have a minimum average size because surely there must be planets with populations of every size between a "normal" human and an ogryn?
How is it that between the mechanicum and the techpriests they can keep the marines in power armour despite the (supposedly) increasing losses in battle and those becoming renegade, yet can't provide power armour for the imperial guard?
If the ability to make and service technology like plasma weapons and anti-grav vehicles is being lost, does that mean that the marines of the future will not have landspeeders and plasma canons?
How is this technology being lost when at the same time new technology is being found?
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Post by: palaeomerus
Here's what I don't understand. Space Marines are supposed to be huge but so are lots of other guys! The novels love to mention how ordinary people can be surgically reeingineered or given massive amounts of steroids to become huge and powerful and fast. Usually they end up being bodyguards for some crook or cult leader and an interrogator henchman of an Inquisitor barely takes them down or else kills them with pionics or high explosives. Fairly common mechanical enhancements can make people smarter, more loyal, better shots, and able to ignore pain. The Mechanicum likes to do stuff like that with their Skitari. For the rest you can put them in environmental armor.
So why are space marines considered so special? They seem to be rather easily duplicated (at least most features) by any world that can produce a hive (or in the case of mutants almost any world at all).
Maybe 1000 strong units with special equipment and a fortress monastary and their own fleet of barges and frigates would be hard to do, but you'd think every guard regiment and PDF unit would have a largish attachement of huge re-made/augmented guys with special training who serve as super soldiers way beyond what the so-called storm troopers can do and who can go head to head with a space marine or orc and lug heavy weapons about on one shoulder and do just fine. They could even be hypnotrained and made to fight servitors in their off hours to keep them in top shape and drill.
Mutants are hated...why? It's a huge waste.
If they took the mutants who would turn out to be naturally huge and well armored, screened them for sufficient intelligence (IQ of 95 and up), and hypno-trained them, coddeled them, educated or even brain washed the heck out of them, from a young age (while quietly chemically sterilizing them) they'd make a heck of a good fighting force! Motivate them to love the Imperium and use them then honor them. If they could isoalate those particular genes they might even stabilize those traits and create new types of useful abhumans. Why give chaos and other weirdos a ready made constituency ? Use them or lose them. Don't abuse them.
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Post by: mussie76
namegoeshere wrote:How can Tuvok use the same Vulcan neck grip on any Alien, surely they have sufficiently different nerve ending points for it to just not work?
LOLZ
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Post by: Lord Froth
One thing that puzzles me is that when the SMs decide to exterminate a planet's species why do they send down SM and IG? Wouldn't you just nuke the crap out of the planet? It's not like they're intending to settle there afterwards.
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Post by: jackinthetank
namegoeshere wrote:Ok obviously it is pointless questioning gw style/fluff but for this thread only = what are the things in 40k that don't make sense to you.
Giant shoulder pads - the shoulder isn't a vital organ - or a smart place to place weight, why is it so big? Just because we love the 80's?
Hmm, well the shoulder might not be vital but the heart sure is.... and last time I checked, my heart was only a few inches from my shoulder
Actually, Jackinthetank wrote the bit above but the quotey thing went wrong.
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Post by: Alazahr
I absolutely despise, even though I am in no way, shape, or form religious, that the Emporer is pretty much our day and age Jesus or "God". I respect the religious, but it just bothers me...
-J.
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Post by: namegoeshere
I hate that Cadians are called Cadians. Every time I see it I see Canadians. Canadian Shock troops etc
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Post by: Kronus VI
All of you stop trying to put reality and 40k together. Ive seen too many good men go insane that way,I cant see anymore.
by the way fashion changes alot, maybe in the future bell bottoms have come back, and big hats are in style, and about the big armor and very off proportions, its sort of all comic book style proportions.
and if space marines were as strong as there supposed to be, even 5 could beat and apocalypse army. 1+ save 2+ invulnerable, s10 ap1 bolters, assault 35 heavy bolters.
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Post by: augfubuoy
palaeomerus wrote:Here's what I don't understand. Space Marines are supposed to be huge but so are lots of other guys! The novels love to mention how ordinary people can be surgically reeingineered or given massive amounts of steroids to become huge and powerful and fast. Usually they end up being bodyguards for some crook or cult leader and an interrogator henchman of an Inquisitor barely takes them down or else kills them with pionics or high explosives. Fairly common mechanical enhancements can make people smarter, more loyal, better shots, and able to ignore pain. The Mechanicum likes to do stuff like that with their Skitari. For the rest you can put them in environmental armor.
So why are space marines considered so special? They seem to be rather easily duplicated (at least most features) by any world that can produce a hive (or in the case of mutants almost any world at all).
Maybe 1000 strong units with special equipment and a fortress monastary and their own fleet of barges and frigates would be hard to do, but you'd think every guard regiment and PDF unit would have a largish attachement of huge re-made/augmented guys with special training who serve as super soldiers way beyond what the so-called storm troopers can do and who can go head to head with a space marine or orc and lug heavy weapons about on one shoulder and do just fine. They could even be hypnotrained and made to fight servitors in their off hours to keep them in top shape and drill.
Mutants are hated...why? It's a huge waste.
If they took the mutants who would turn out to be naturally huge and well armored, screened them for sufficient intelligence (IQ of 95 and up), and hypno-trained them, coddeled them, educated or even brain washed the heck out of them, from a young age (while quietly chemically sterilizing them) they'd make a heck of a good fighting force! Motivate them to love the Imperium and use them then honor them. If they could isoalate those particular genes they might even stabilize those traits and create new types of useful abhumans. Why give chaos and other weirdos a ready made constituency ? Use them or lose them. Don't abuse them.
You're right, why not? I mean, in the book Ice Warriors, there's a whole Hive infested with Mutants and Cultists, but the Mutants are still loyal and actually help the main characters  ! About the bionics thing, I guess making all of that stuff is expensive or fiercely controlled (probably both) by some big-wigs, because only assassins are the ones that get "upgrades" on a regular basis.
-A.
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Post by: Lordhat
Nofasse 'Eadhunta wrote:And what's the deal with all those rivets in people's armor? Is it like in the grim darkness of the far future there is no welding?
Sigged.
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Post by: oggers
it's good that 40k snipers still can't hit the heads of sargents, captains e.c.t....
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Post by: namegoeshere
Thunderhawk gunships look like a bus, with tiny chicken wings. And lots of rivets. They are the least aerodynamic flying thing ever
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Post by: ImperatorServat
I have a quick question that I haven't seen anybody ask, and since we're talking about Space Marines...what exactly does the Sign of the Aquila look like that you make with your hands?
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Post by: Che-Vito
SHOULDER PADS - When I think of shoulder pads, I think of my Tau with their HUGE shoulder plates. The reason I imagine that the normal Fire Warriors have this (while pathfinders often do not), that that from a side angle, they do provide protection to a large portion of the torso. If the Fire Warriors are drawn into a "firing line" not only does it cover more of themselves, but the Fire Warriors behind them as well.
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Post by: gennadius
Jarran wrote:Officers/sergeants not wearing helmets- it's like asking to be shot in the head
Spikey armor- this is for CSM what if they got cought on something like a tank tread and wouldn't they unbalance the armor?
i guess you havent played gears of war
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Post by: UsdiThunder
For me it's the the whole Fluff vs table thing.
Bolter
Fluff= massive damaging explosive weapons that kill squishies with area effect blasts, with several different types of ammo provided to regular marines whenever asked for.
Table=Str 4 AP 5 with only a 50% chance of wounding an ork and a 67% chance of wounding T3.
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Post by: combo
KingCracker wrote:Well Ive heard that when serial killers kill, they get a super god like high. Id imagine that following Slaanesh would increase that godlike sensation to beyond mortal emotional boundaries....
hmm... I hate how fluffwise SM are super invincible killing machines, yet playing against them with my Orks, they are mearly good at the killing part. My regular boyz mobs can kick the living gak out of SM in CC. I think they need to tone down the mega man fluff a tad.
personally I think rather than tone down the space marine fluff they need to stop the process of making battles bigger by making units cheaper. Sure making the units cheaper point wise means we have to buy more to field an army, but it goes completely against fluff.
In my opinion if marines cost like 40points a model in a basic tactical squad, and had equivilent stats the army would be much cooler.
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Post by: ihatehumans
Splinter rifle, poisoned shards of death highly propelled at a target where a single scrape sends the victim into agonizing pain.
s3 ap 5
The most advanced race in the universe had the whole star system at their finger tips.
Basic weapon max range 12"
Standing behind some rocks, a massive cannon fires a huge blast right on top of you, you have the same chance of avoiding damage as some green idiot strolls towards you with his tiny revolver.
4+ cover save.
Your in the middle of intense hand to hand fighting, you are a lone survivor against a horde of enemies slowly closing on your position.
Turn 7 the game ends in a draw.
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Post by: cadbren
ImperatorServat wrote:I have a quick question that I haven't seen anybody ask, and since we're talking about Space Marines...what exactly does the Sign of the Aquila look like that you make with your hands?
Cross your wrists then place your hands against your chest. Bend your thumbs.
If you do this in front of a mirror you can work out how to make it look as good as possible.
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Post by: cadbren
namegoeshere wrote:I hate that Cadians are called Cadians. Every time I see it I see Canadians. Canadian Shock troops etc
The early French settlers in Canada were Arcadians so there's another link for ye. I think Cadians are supposed to be some generic European army other than American. Americans are represented by the army of Rambos or AOR which is also their war cry and most commonly used word.
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Post by: ImperatorServat
Thanks cadbren I figured as much but wasn't really sure.
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Post by: Alazahr
Other things that bother me about 40K.
- Bolts (Bolter munitions) are caseless ammunition, but are always shown w/ spent shells flying everywhere.
- Orks are plants... Yet they are carnivores... That defecate.
- The Eldar are a dying race, but yet here they are approx. 25 years later... Shouldn't they have less on the army composition or shouldn't GW stop making the models to help them out?
-J.
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Post by: Cryonicleech
1. Space Marine Shoulder Pads
2. Why Plasma Cannons don't explode whilst plasma guns can
3. Why The Eldar don't go on birthing cycles (Iyaden starts one year, then Biel-Tan next year, then Ulthwe, etc.)
at least it's not the whole Eldar race gettin' all....you know....
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Post by: Demogerg
Alazahr wrote:Other things that bother me about 40K.
- Orks are plants... Yet they are carnivores... That defecate.
-J.
Orks are a fungus
Fungi =/= Plant
If they were a plant, consider the venus fly trap.
waste disposal is a normal process of living creatures.
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Post by: freefire13
the eldar are dieing and maybe if they got it on once in a while that might solve the problem
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Post by: ihatehumans
The most advanced race, with the most highly trained warriors, in all the universe uses the same weapon as the least advanced race, with the clumsiest warriors, in the universe:
Range: 18" S:4 Assault 2
Avenger Shuriken Catapults and Shootas have the same stats except apparently the shurikens can pierce one extra armor point, ap5 vs ap6!!!
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Post by: CaptainRavenclaw
Thats technology for ya!! one extra ap. Except you forgot the fact that a dire avenger costs 16?? (i'm not sure) points, but an ork shoota boy only costs 6 points.
orks win.
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Post by: ihatehumans
A dire avenger costs 12 points and an ork costs 6. In the rules you can have 2 Orks that are just as likely to kill a space marine for the same points as one dire avenger, except when that space marine shoots back he's gonna have a lot harder time killing the two orks than the one dire avenger, especially if the orcs are smart enough to hide in some cover!
But this is mostly just because the Orc codex is simply rediculously powerful while the Eldar Codex is yet to get it's injection of SEX!
IMO make dire avengers get re-rolls to hit or re-rolls to wound, and make all shuriken weapons 18" so that your basic guardian wielding a catapult doesn't have to get within assult range to shoot! That would make a little more sense Fluff wise, but that suggestion probably belongs in a different thread lol.
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Post by: ihatehumans
Fail Browser is Fael. Double post sorry :(
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Post by: ImperatorServat
Maybe the Eldar are just punishing themselves for creating the Fourth Chaos god by having crappy basic weapons...
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Post by: ihatehumans
ImperatorServat wrote:Maybe the Eldar are just punishing themselves for creating the Fourth Chaos god by having crappy basic weapons...
Lol, although I know if I created slaanesh I'd be pretty busy being sexual.
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Post by: Dronze
I've got an interesting question... what happens to the space marine or IG commisar that forgets he's wearing a powerfist and goes to pick his nose?
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Post by: Lord Kaesar II
Answer: Space marines can easily manage without noses, and a commissar would shoot himself for picking his nose on the job
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Post by: Lord Kaesar II
Anyway, where do servitors really come from? Since I know they aren't just 'built'.
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Post by: namegoeshere
Do they have mobiles? Internet? Helicopters?
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Post by: Deff Dread red Edition
Why does no one wear bell bottom pants?
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Post by: Dronze
Deff Dread red Edition wrote:Why does no one wear bell bottom pants?
2 reasons: First, it's the Space Marines' holy style, and none would actually dare to mock that. Secondly, well, the Emperor lived through that span of time in our history, during which time he had a wicked huge 'fro, and he doesn't want to be reminded that people willingly looked like that at some point... if bell bottoms ever made a comeback, the emperor would immediately wriggle off of the golden throne and allow all of humanity to be annihilated by rampant warp storms.
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Post by: ImperatorServat
Lord Kaesar II wrote:
Anyway, where do servitors really come from? Since I know they aren't just 'built'.
I've read in the novels that they're criminals or other socially unfit beings that are deprived of their humanityand have machine parts assimilated into their bodies. They then perform menial tasks or assist in combat as basically lifeless machines.
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Post by: Gwar!
Alazahr wrote:Other things that bother me about 40K.
- Bolts (Bolter munitions) are caseless ammunition, but are always shown w/ spent shells flying everywhere.
- Orks are plants... Yet they are carnivores... That defecate.
- The Eldar are a dying race, but yet here they are approx. 25 years later... Shouldn't they have less on the army composition or shouldn't GW stop making the models to help them out?
-J.
All I can say is: Lol
Bolters: Has been retconed. They are able to use both Caseless and Cased Ammo.
Orks: Yes, they are Sentient Plants created by a Galactic race of Superbeings who seeded a good Portion of Life in the Galaxy. Woo hoo? Also See Venus Fly Trap. Even plants have a taste for meat sometimes.
Eldar: Yes, because we all know Civilisations die off in a matter of decades.  Eldar have been a "dying race" for millennia and will take a good few more to fully die off. There are a good few Eldar left (Billions to Trillions) but they will eventually die because they cannot procreate efficiently any more. And before you go "Billions of Eldar LOLWUT" compare it to the numbers of the other races, especicaly humans, who number in the Quadrillions and Orks who... hell I dont think they have even invented a number big enough for them.
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Post by: Dronze
Gwar! wrote:
Orks: Yes, they are Sentient Plants created by a Galactic race of Superbeings who seeded a good Portion of Life in the Galaxy. Woo hoo? Also See Venus Fly Trap. Even plants have a taste for meat sometimes.
Orks are fungus, not plants... even in a modern, realistic frame of reference, fungus has more in common with animals than it does plants.
And the only reason carnivorous plants consume animals (insects, generally) is that the soil they reside in is severely nitrogen deficient, so they developed other means by which to get said element. Does nobody recall 8th grade science anymore?
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Post by: Gwar!
I meant plants in a general sense. Yes they are fungus if you wanna be technical.
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Post by: Dronze
That's not even a technicality.... they aren't even in the same kingdoms.
I like to keep people from exercising wholesale ignorance whenever possible, more out of wanting to cull the "Hurr"d than anything else.
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Post by: Gwar!
Cryonicleech wrote:2. Why Plasma Cannons don't explode whilst plasma guns can
I just noticed this and thought " WTF?"
You do realise Plasma Cannons have to roll to Gets Hot! just like EVERY OTHER weapon with the rule? Read the bit about how Gets Hot! interacts with Blast weapons.
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Post by: Lord Kaesar II
Yeah... Just because the plasma cannon is larger doesn't mean it can't lose its magnetic stream and severely burn the user, except for vehicles, but that's just a given
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Post by: freefire13
the quick way the end that plant fungus thing is daz orks and daz mean and daz green waaaaagh!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: Garuda
erm...Why doesn't the Imperium use fungicide on the Orks?
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Post by: Gwar!
Why don't you use weed killer against weed who have built up a resistance to them?
Why don't you use Antibiotics against Bacteria Resistant to them?
Simple innit?
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Post by: Cheese Elemental
If Abbadon is so imcompetent that he can't get past Cadia with 13 Black crusades over 10,000 years, why is he still in charge?
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Post by: Napalm
Because everyone else in Chaos is even less competent?
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Post by: Carlovonsexron
:lol!
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Post by: Che-Vito
Cheese Elemental wrote:If Abbadon is so imcompetent that he can't get past Cadia with 13 Black crusades over 10,000 years, why is he still in charge?
Meh, being the genetic-son of a Prim. has to count for something...
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Post by: Gwar!
Che-Vito wrote:Cheese Elemental wrote:If Abbadon is so imcompetent that he can't get past Cadia with 13 Black crusades over 10,000 years, why is he still in charge?
Meh, being the genetic-son of a Prim. has to count for something...
Oh bawwww! All SPESS MAHREENS are technically that too, what with the Primarchs Genetic code in them and all.
What I want to know is why have the Chaos Gods not gifted Abadon with the power of METAL BAWKES. Surely if they had Cadia would be overrun by now.
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Post by: Cheese Elemental
Why does everyone important in the Imperium have pipes going into their head?
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Post by: namegoeshere
Because pipes, chains, rivets, wires, skulls and spikes, are really easy to draw
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Post by: halonachos
Che-Vito wrote:Cheese Elemental wrote:If Abbadon is so imcompetent that he can't get past Cadia with 13 Black crusades over 10,000 years, why is he still in charge?
Meh, being the genetic-son of a Prim. has to count for something...
Chaos: An Affirmitive Action Institution.
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Post by: Che-Vito
Gwar! wrote:Che-Vito wrote:Cheese Elemental wrote:If Abbadon is so imcompetent that he can't get past Cadia with 13 Black crusades over 10,000 years, why is he still in charge?
Meh, being the genetic-son of a Prim. has to count for something...
Oh bawwww! All SPESS MAHREENS are technically that too, what with the Primarchs Genetic code in them and all.
What I want to know is why have the Chaos Gods not gifted Abadon with the power of METAL BAWKES. Surely if they had Cadia would be overrun by now.
Maybe it's cause he has the coolest Space Marine (or CSM) name besides "Marneus Calgar"...
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