In a time filled with giant genetically engineered super-warriors, alien monstrosities and extradimensional invaders conjured from your own nightmares the Imperial Guard are just men armed with rifles; armoured most heavily in the steel toes of their boots. That's why they're my favorite, they're the little guys in the big, bad galaxy. That being said some of these guys are pretty hardcore in their own right.
Whether it's because they were trained from birth to be a trooper in worldwide army, come from a planet where the tree-moss tries to eat your face, survived a 500 year atmoic war and want some more or just have really spiffy uniforms they're all pretty cool but who's your favorite?
KamikazeCanuck wrote:Cadians are cool. I would say everyone except Mordians and Praetorians. They're the guys with the spiffy uniforms I was talking about.
Cadians are the definition of generic and boring, they have no character
KamikazeCanuck wrote:Cadians are cool. I would say everyone except Mordians and Praetorians. They're the guys with the spiffy uniforms I was talking about.
Cadians are the definition of generic and boring, they have no character
I wouldn't say that. Cadia is an interesting Idea: an entire planet under arms at all times out of neccesity. I see them as a long suffering people. They have so many men killed in battle that there isn't enough land for all the tombstones.
KamikazeCanuck wrote:Cadians are cool. I would say everyone except Mordians and Praetorians. They're the guys with the spiffy uniforms I was talking about.
Cadians are the definition of generic and boring, they have no character
I wouldn't say that. Cadia is an interesting Idea: an entire planet under arms at all times out of neccesity. I see them as a long suffering people. They have so many men killed in battle that there isn't enough land for all the tombstones.
Zarake wrote:Gonna have to go with the Elysian Drop Troops. There is just something about jumping behind your enemy that gets my blood pumping.
Also agreeing about the Cadians, they're just....there.
Ya, Elysians are cool. They are the most modern Army. They look like actual special forces and fight like them too. They're like the rangers from Black Hawk Down. Also: Drop Sentinals!
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KamikazeCanuck wrote:
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KamikazeCanuck wrote:Cadians are cool. I would say everyone except Mordians and Praetorians. They're the guys with the spiffy uniforms I was talking about.
Cadians are the definition of generic and boring, they have no character
I wouldn't say that. Cadia is an interesting Idea: an entire planet under arms at all times out of neccesity. I see them as a long suffering people. They have so many men killed in battle that there isn't enough land for all the tombstones.
Zarake wrote:Gonna have to go with the Elysian Drop Troops. There is just something about jumping behind your enemy that gets my blood pumping.
Also agreeing about the Cadians, they're just....there.
Ya, Elysians are cool. They are the most modern Army. They look like actual special forces and fight like them too. They're like the rangers from Black Hawk Down. Also: Drop Sentinals!
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KamikazeCanuck wrote:
Retribution wrote:
KamikazeCanuck wrote:Cadians are cool. I would say everyone except Mordians and Praetorians. They're the guys with the spiffy uniforms I was talking about.
Cadians are the definition of generic and boring, they have no character
I wouldn't say that. Cadia is an interesting Idea: an entire planet under arms at all times out of neccesity. I see them as a long suffering people. They have so many men killed in battle that there isn't enough land for all the tombstones.
Just like every other imperial planet...
like?
Like 95% of Imperial Guard regiments? All of them lose enormous amounts of men...it's the fething IG after all. All of them suffer, it's just that with the Vostroyans, or the Death Korps, or the Mordians, they do it with actual character
I wonder if Praetorians will get a single vote? Zulu-fighters with grenade-launchers: any takers? No? ok, well they make me smile.
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Zarake wrote:Gonna have to go with the Elysian Drop Troops. There is just something about jumping behind your enemy that gets my blood pumping.
Also agreeing about the Cadians, they're just....there.
Ya, Elysians are cool. They are the most modern Army. They look like actual special forces and fight like them too. They're like the rangers from Black Hawk Down. Also: Drop Sentinals!
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KamikazeCanuck wrote:
Retribution wrote:
KamikazeCanuck wrote:Cadians are cool. I would say everyone except Mordians and Praetorians. They're the guys with the spiffy uniforms I was talking about.
Cadians are the definition of generic and boring, they have no character
I wouldn't say that. Cadia is an interesting Idea: an entire planet under arms at all times out of neccesity. I see them as a long suffering people. They have so many men killed in battle that there isn't enough land for all the tombstones.
Just like every other imperial planet...
like?
Like 95% of Imperial Guard regiments? All of them lose enormous amounts of men...it's the fething IG after all. All of them suffer, it's just that with the Vostroyans, or the Death Korps, or the Mordians, they do it with actual character
I ment the actual specific part. How the whole planet is one giant military and them not even having enough room for the graveyards?
Let's see:
Death Korps - entirely militarized
Catachans - entirely militarized
Steel Legion - practically entirely militarized
Mordian's - They're essentially Prussian's in space, so i'd say they're in the same vein as the Steel Legion
Valhallans - entirely militarized after the Ork Waaagh!!!
Retribution wrote:Let's see:
Death Korps - entirely militarized
Catachans - entirely militarized
Steel Legion - practically entirely militarized
Mordian's - They're essentially Prussian's in space, so i'd say they're in the same vein as the Steel Legion
Valhallans - entirely militarized after the Ork Waaagh!!!
I'll agree Cadians are the most 'normal" of all them. They're like the Ultramarines of the Guard. You need normal guys though. First plastic IG army was Catachans and they didn't sell so well I believe because people were looking for something more normal.
As for those other guys.
Catachan has many civilians. So does Armageddon, Mordia and Valhalla. Don't know about Krieg: most people there are dead....
Retribution wrote:Let's see:
Death Korps - entirely militarized
Catachans - entirely militarized
Steel Legion - practically entirely militarized
Mordian's - They're essentially Prussian's in space, so i'd say they're in the same vein as the Steel Legion
Valhallans - entirely militarized after the Ork Waaagh!!!
I'll agree Cadians are the most 'normal" of all them. They're like the Ultramarines of the Guard. You need normal guys though. First plastic IG army was Catachans and they didn't sell so well I believe because people were looking for something more normal.
As for those other guys.
Catachan has many civilians. So does Armageddon, Mordia and Valhalla. Don't know about Krieg: most people there are dead....
Sure, Catachan has civilians...until they're formally placed into the IG; Catachan is, arguably, the most dangerous Death World, remember? Armageddon has civilians, until they're all conscripted during an ork waaagh or a Chaos invasion; same with Mordia and Valhalla
Retribution wrote:Let's see:
Death Korps - entirely militarized
Catachans - entirely militarized
Steel Legion - practically entirely militarized
Mordian's - They're essentially Prussian's in space, so i'd say they're in the same vein as the Steel Legion
Valhallans - entirely militarized after the Ork Waaagh!!!
I'll agree Cadians are the most 'normal" of all them. They're like the Ultramarines of the Guard. You need normal guys though. First plastic IG army was Catachans and they didn't sell so well I believe because people were looking for something more normal.
As for those other guys.
Catachan has many civilians. So does Armageddon, Mordia and Valhalla. Don't know about Krieg: most people there are dead....
Sure, Catachan has civilians...until they're formally placed into the IG; Catachan is, arguably, the most dangerous Death World, remember? Armageddon has civilians, until they're all conscripted during an ork waaagh or a Chaos invasion; same with Mordia and Valhalla
Armageddon probably has more people in hive gang militia than in the actual Steel Legion. Everyone on that planet is fighting Orks but most are do-it-youselfing it. Also most Catachans are not in the Imperial Guard. Ditto with Mordia and Valhalla.
That's the thing about Cadia: Most people are actual Rifle carrying Imperial Guard. 71.75% of the population. The rest: work for the Imperial Guard.
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ComputerGeek01 wrote:I say Steel Legion, if you disagree take it up with Commisar Yarrick.
I used to think Steel Legion were hardcore but then The Krieg came along. They make the Steel Legion look like panseys. Actually, they make everyone look like panseys.
wow this thread is bunk...total bunk, seriously how could anyone vote anybody but catachans for most badass? seriously? they are like the most badass 'nam marines only ten times more badass! elysians, death korp, and tanith aint got sh@t on catachan
starhawks1 wrote:wow this thread is bunk...total bunk, seriously how could anyone vote anybody but catachans for most badass? seriously? they are like the most badass 'nam marines only ten times more badass! elysians, death korp, and tanith aint got sh@t on catachan
I am very surprised that Catachans don't have a single vote. They've certainly got the coolest planet. Not surprised about the Praetorians though......still waiting for them to get a vote.
starhawks1 wrote:wow this thread is bunk...total bunk, seriously how could anyone vote anybody but catachans for most badass? seriously? they are like the most badass 'nam marines only ten times more badass! elysians, death korp, and tanith aint got sh@t on catachan
Catachans are lame. They take steroids, are apparently special for coming from some super dangerous planet (Just like... Half the other guys?), and the models are ugly.
Go-go Elysians and Vostroyans for me. Death Korps of Krieg are pretty nice too.
Note: Just because I don't like Catachans does not mean I hate your painted Catachan army specifically, so please lower your torches and pitchforks.
catchan's seriously? i dont wanna play an army of badly sculpted baby ogryns!
Death Korps FTW they took way worse than the 13th black crusade and didnt have EVERYONE backing them up, sure 13th black crusade was tough but i mean chaos marines are still infantry on the ground you can fight, try fighting off a nuke
Krieg, all that atomic cleansing must have done something to their brains. Well and while I don't like the models that much you've gotta respect Catachans. Nothing like facing an Ork horde with nothing but boots, pants a knife and lasgun.
Steel Legion are my personal favorite costume wise. The mustard yellow is pretty stylish.
Sandman wrote:Krieg, all that atomic cleansing must have done something to their brains. Well and while I don't like the models that much you've gotta respect Catachans. Nothing like facing an Ork horde with nothing but boots, pants a knife and lasgun.
How is that any different from facing an Ork with armor made out of what is pretty much cardboard and a lasgun?
starhawks1 wrote:wow this thread is bunk...total bunk, seriously how could anyone vote anybody but catachans for most badass? seriously? they are like the most badass 'nam marines only ten times more badass! elysians, death korp, and tanith aint got sh@t on catachan
Catachans are lame. They take steroids, are apparently special for coming from some super dangerous planet (Just like... Half the other guys?), and the models are ugly.
Go-go Elysians and Vostroyans for me. Death Korps of Krieg are pretty nice too.
Note: Just because I don't like Catachans does not mean I hate your painted Catachan army specifically, so please lower your torches and pitchforks.
that wasn't real anger, I was just really surprised that other regiments got so many votes, then I realized that people were basing this primarily on what the models look like...death korp and elysians and whatnot are cool and have very good models, but it would be pretty difficult to argue that they are more badass fluffwise than catachans, seriously no regiment's average soldier is tougher or a better fighter than a catachan...don't believe me, read the catachan novel in the imperial guard omnibus and truly ask yourself if an average grunt from any other regiment could go through what the main character did to be inducted into the regiment
also, I agree the models aren't great, but it doesn't stop me from collecting them...and yes, I am incredibly bias
starhawks1 wrote:wow this thread is bunk...total bunk, seriously how could anyone vote anybody but catachans for most badass? seriously? they are like the most badass 'nam marines only ten times more badass! elysians, death korp, and tanith aint got sh@t on catachan
Catachans are lame. They take steroids, are apparently special for coming from some super dangerous planet (Just like... Half the other guys?), and the models are ugly.
Go-go Elysians and Vostroyans for me. Death Korps of Krieg are pretty nice too.
Note: Just because I don't like Catachans does not mean I hate your painted Catachan army specifically, so please lower your torches and pitchforks.
that wasn't real anger, I was just really surprised that other regiments got so many votes, then I realized that people were basing this primarily on what the models look like...death korp and elysians and whatnot are cool and have very good models, but it would be pretty difficult to argue that they are more badass fluffwise than catachans, seriously no regiment's average soldier is tougher or a better fighter than a catachan...don't believe me, read the catachan novel in the imperial guard omnibus and truly ask yourself if an average grunt from any other regiment could go through what the main character did to be inducted into the regiment
also, I agree the models aren't great, but it doesn't stop me from collecting them...and yes, I am incredibly bias
Catachan the novel making catachans look awesome? Shocking; i'm sure a Death Korps book wouldn't make them look uber
starhawks1 wrote:wow this thread is bunk...total bunk, seriously how could anyone vote anybody but catachans for most badass? seriously? they are like the most badass 'nam marines only ten times more badass! elysians, death korp, and tanith aint got sh@t on catachan
Catachans are lame. They take steroids, are apparently special for coming from some super dangerous planet (Just like... Half the other guys?), and the models are ugly.
Go-go Elysians and Vostroyans for me. Death Korps of Krieg are pretty nice too.
Note: Just because I don't like Catachans does not mean I hate your painted Catachan army specifically, so please lower your torches and pitchforks.
that wasn't real anger, I was just really surprised that other regiments got so many votes, then I realized that people were basing this primarily on what the models look like...death korp and elysians and whatnot are cool and have very good models, but it would be pretty difficult to argue that they are more badass fluffwise than catachans, seriously no regiment's average soldier is tougher or a better fighter than a catachan...don't believe me, read the catachan novel in the imperial guard omnibus and truly ask yourself if an average grunt from any other regiment could go through what the main character did to be inducted into the regiment
also, I agree the models aren't great, but it doesn't stop me from collecting them...and yes, I am incredibly bias
Catachan the novel making catachans look awesome? Shocking; i'm sure a Death Korps book wouldn't make them look uber
well, I have read many imperial guard novels, and the only one that made the character appear more skilled/badass than the catachan is kage from the last chancers, and that doesn't really count
Retribution wrote:The Catachans are way too 80's Rambo for me
You're kidding, right? The Catachan aren't 80's Rambo/Predator/Platoon/every action movie ever enough for me!
I think I may have to create an IG killteam based on The Expendables once I've seen it in cinema forty or fifty times, whether or not I end up doing an entire Catachan special forces army.
I have to agree catachan is the most bad ass. I mean living in a jungle where every plant or animal can hurt or kill you, they walk through it with a tank top and trousers, plus they're extremely buff. These guys are probably so manly that
they drink hot sauce as a beverage, shave with machetes, grocery shop at Home Depot and stitch there own arm up while under fire (and not necessarily in that order too)!
starhawks1 wrote:wow this thread is bunk...total bunk, seriously how could anyone vote anybody but catachans for most badass? seriously? they are like the most badass 'nam marines only ten times more badass! elysians, death korp, and tanith aint got sh@t on catachan
Catachans are lame. They take steroids, are apparently special for coming from some super dangerous planet (Just like... Half the other guys?), and the models are ugly.
Go-go Elysians and Vostroyans for me. Death Korps of Krieg are pretty nice too.
Note: Just because I don't like Catachans does not mean I hate your painted Catachan army specifically, so please lower your torches and pitchforks.
that wasn't real anger, I was just really surprised that other regiments got so many votes, then I realized that people were basing this primarily on what the models look like...death korp and elysians and whatnot are cool and have very good models, but it would be pretty difficult to argue that they are more badass fluffwise than catachans, seriously no regiment's average soldier is tougher or a better fighter than a catachan...don't believe me, read the catachan novel in the imperial guard omnibus and truly ask yourself if an average grunt from any other regiment could go through what the main character did to be inducted into the regiment
also, I agree the models aren't great, but it doesn't stop me from collecting them...and yes, I am incredibly bias
Catachan the novel making catachans look awesome? Shocking; i'm sure a Death Korps book wouldn't make them look uber
well, I have read many imperial guard novels, and the only one that made the character appear more skilled/badass than the catachan is kage from the last chancers, and that
doesn't really count
Krieg got 3 IA books. Thats pretty badass on its own, plus if you read the fluff in said books it makes Catachans look like emo rambos. Krieg for the win fluffwise.
Don't care for the models, but have to go with Catachans for all-around bad-assery. Sure other regiments may look cooler / have cooler vehicles and gear. But Catachans ambush orks 1-on-1 on a regular basis.
I can't stand the idea of catachans. First of all, the planet doesn't make any sense - is there any evolutionary reason for all this? If all the animals eat people, why are the plants dangerous? Second, if you live your whole life in a constant state of peril, fighting to survive every day, you don't end up a bronzed, muscly superman, you become a scrawny, super-sharp paranoid animal. Thirdly, how does a planet with these issues (only the best survive through puberty apparently) provide enough people to send so many regiments to war, and at the same time maintain a viable gene-pool?
Bit tongue in cheek there, I know it's a game where men cross the galaxy in 5km-long ships to fight with swords, but hey - IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE!
Tanith First and Only. You think the Krieg had it tough! At least they have a planet to go back to. Same with Cadia, same with Catachan. Tanith is one regiment that keeps getting thrown into the nastiest fights.
Plus, Colonel Commissar Gaunt will own you and your baby ogryns
EDIT: Additionally, they didn't have to be born on a giant death world, or a fortress world or some hive world. They are simply well trained, disciplined guardsmen with an abundance of common sense (severely lacking in the Valhallans for example). It's the story of the ordinary man doing extraordinary things in the defense of his homeland/empire/galactic civilization. That appeals to me.
Barring them, I'd vote Tallarn. Why you ask? Largest tank battle in Imperial history. Virus bombed from orbit, masters of hit and run warfare, and because T.E. Lawrence is a badass.
I-bounty-hunt-the-elderly wrote:I can't stand the idea of catachans. First of all, the planet doesn't make any sense - is there any evolutionary reason for all this? If all the animals eat people, why are the plants dangerous? Second, if you live your whole life in a constant state of peril, fighting to survive every day, you don't end up a bronzed, muscly superman, you become a scrawny, super-sharp paranoid animal. Thirdly, how does a planet with these issues (only the best survive through puberty apparently) provide enough people to send so many regiments to war, and at the same time maintain a viable gene-pool?
Bit tongue in cheek there, I know it's a game where men cross the galaxy in 5km-long ships to fight with swords, but hey - IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE!
ok, and you know all this how? don't just make up some wild explination with nothing to back it up, just because they live in constant danger certainly does not mean they would be scrawny, that doesn't make any sense
starhawks1 wrote:wow this thread is bunk...total bunk, seriously how could anyone vote anybody but catachans for most badass? seriously? they are like the most badass 'nam marines only ten times more badass! elysians, death korp, and tanith aint got sh@t on catachan
Catachans are lame. They take steroids, are apparently special for coming from some super dangerous planet (Just like... Half the other guys?), and the models are ugly.
Go-go Elysians and Vostroyans for me. Death Korps of Krieg are pretty nice too.
Note: Just because I don't like Catachans does not mean I hate your painted Catachan army specifically, so please lower your torches and pitchforks.
that wasn't real anger, I was just really surprised that other regiments got so many votes, then I realized that people were basing this primarily on what the models look like...death korp and elysians and whatnot are cool and have very good models, but it would be pretty difficult to argue that they are more badass fluffwise than catachans, seriously no regiment's average soldier is tougher or a better fighter than a catachan...don't believe me, read the catachan novel in the imperial guard omnibus and truly ask yourself if an average grunt from any other regiment could go through what the main character did to be inducted into the regiment
also, I agree the models aren't great, but it doesn't stop me from collecting them...and yes, I am incredibly bias
I read Death World and quite frankly i didn't like it. It made the Catachans look like dickheads. They start a fight with an allied regiment fo no reason. Then they lost their coolness when they didn't kill their commisar which supposedly Catachans do all the time.
I see Death Korps has taken the lead! I can't argue with that. Death Korps fight the way guard are supposed to fight: they send wave after wave of their own men at the enemy until every last bacteria on the planet has been crushed by the body of a falling guardsmen. After the planet is a corspe-strewn, unusable, lifeless wasteland they declare victory and move on to the next one.
ELYSIANS FTW.
they are so awesome as they look and feel like the true future special forces. and their kit looks awesome too. bullpup lasguns, webbing bags on their back, UGLs, and their heavy weopons rock.
kriegers look good too but (i know its only there for variety) they are too ww1 for my liking of a future battlefield
Mordia doesn't rotate, so half is too hot to live on, other half is black as night...Then they have a Chaos deamon invasion to fight off, which they do with style.
Seems like a worthy bunch to me.
Course it might just be that I have an army of Mordians.
Gotta say Catachans. All the fluff i've read about them has them fighting in the worst kind of jungles and forests and loving it. They love their planet for the same reason everyone else hates it.
I-bounty-hunt-the-elderly wrote:I can't stand the idea of catachans. First of all, the planet doesn't make any sense - is there any evolutionary reason for all this? If all the animals eat people, why are the plants dangerous? Second, if you live your whole life in a constant state of peril, fighting to survive every day, you don't end up a bronzed, muscly superman, you become a scrawny, super-sharp paranoid animal. Thirdly, how does a planet with these issues (only the best survive through puberty apparently) provide enough people to send so many regiments to war, and at the same time maintain a viable gene-pool?
Bit tongue in cheek there, I know it's a game where men cross the galaxy in 5km-long ships to fight with swords, but hey - IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE!
Catachan is a high gravity world. So they've evolved to be more muscular. That's why they're called baby-ogryns. One of their only exports is Imperial Guard and a highly sought after brand at that. In exchange they get alot of material and supplies that allow them to maintain a normal population level.
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Rangerrob wrote:Mordians.
Mordia doesn't rotate, so half is too hot to live on, other half is black as night...Then they have a Chaos deamon invasion to fight off, which they do with style.
Seems like a worthy bunch to me.
Course it might just be that I have an army of Mordians.
Their uniforms are impeccably pressed. They really have no peer when it comes to ironing ability.
Welcome recruits to the last and final stage of basic training. here you will learn the skill which will keep you alive and put fear into the hearts of the enemy.
step 1! pick up iron with right hand!
Step 2! place iron on crease of trousers with the point facing in the direction you are going!
step 3! move iron at a constant rate over the trousers in a fashion like so!
repeat step 2 and 3 until your creases are so sharp you can slice the throat of the enemy with them!
Their uniforms are impeccably pressed. They really have no peer when it comes to ironing ability.
Welcome recruits to the last and final stage of basic training. here you will learn the skill which will keep you alive and put fear into the hearts of the enemy.
step 1! pick up iron with right hand!
Step 2! place iron on crease of trousers with the point facing in the direction you are going!
step 3! move iron at a constant rate over the trousers in a fashion like so!
repeat step 2 and 3 until your creases are so sharp you can slice the throat of the enemy with them!
Sgt_Scruffy wrote:Tanith First and Only. You think the Krieg had it tough! At least they have a planet to go back to. Same with Cadia, same with Catachan. Tanith is one regiment that keeps getting thrown into the nastiest fights.
Plus, Colonel Commissar Gaunt will own you and your baby ogryns
EDIT: Additionally, they didn't have to be born on a giant death world, or a fortress world or some hive world. They are simply well trained, disciplined guardsmen with an abundance of common sense (severely lacking in the Valhallans for example). It's the story of the ordinary man doing extraordinary things in the defense of his homeland/empire/galactic civilization. That appeals to me.
Barring them, I'd vote Tallarn. Why you ask? Largest tank battle in Imperial history. Virus bombed from orbit, masters of hit and run warfare, and because T.E. Lawrence is a badass.
I was thinking of leaving out the Tanith because if actually count count the amount of material written about them they have 10 times as much as the other regiments put together (but like 5 models). Nonetheless, the are coming in merely second. For the record they got my vote: for 10 years the most advance weapon they had was one, count 'em ONE, bolt pistol. (now they have a plasma pistol.)
Tanith Because of no home, scout sergeant Mkoll, his knife is perpetually lodged in someones brain and....
MCVENNER. The definition of badass. Yeah gaunt took a demon, with a powersword. Ven took on at least 2, a Life Gaurd with an empty lasrifle and a wirewolf, with a stick!!! And he is just as badass as Mkoll in the sneek and creep department he was the prize student he became better than the teacher! He's Nalsheen
KamikazeCanuck wrote:And yes, Mkoll is even more badass than Sly Marbo!
Blasphemy good sir. Total, utter, complete blasphemy. Everyone knows that all Sly Marbo has to do is sweat, thus creating a nuclear explosion. This ultimately kills Mkoll along with planet.
KamikazeCanuck wrote:And yes, Mkoll is even more badass than Sly Marbo!
Blasphemy good sir. Total, utter, complete blasphemy. Everyone knows that all Sly Marbo has to do is sweat, thus creating a nuclear explosion. This ultimately kills Mkoll along with planet.
lol, fortunately nothing ever causes Sly Marbo to sweat.
Should've done a Sly Marbo, Mkoll, Chuck Norris poll too.
KamikazeCanuck wrote:And yes, Mkoll is even more badass than Sly Marbo!
Blasphemy good sir. Total, utter, complete blasphemy. Everyone knows that all Sly Marbo has to do is sweat, thus creating a nuclear explosion. This ultimately kills Mkoll along with planet.
lol, fortunately nothing ever causes Sly Marbo to sweat.
Should've done a Sly Marbo, Mkoll, Chuck Norris poll too.
if you put a catachan in almost any environment and an average trooper from almost any other regiment in the same environment, you know the catachan would survive longer...if you pit a catachan against an average trooper from almost any regiment in almost any kind of combat, you know the catachan would win handily...man by man, catachans are just more badass it baffles me that people are arguing this
Tanith first-and-only. Because nobody else can pull off their level of successful recruiting into the IG, with their victories, into a unit with -no- gear.
I don't remember if it was Steel or Death Corps who looked the coolest, but I voted Steel. My brothers and I are going to be getting a good 90,000 points in guardsmen to play Appocolypse battles, the other two are going Cadian, I'm one of those two, don't remember which. Of course, I'm artillary, so it all works out.
Happygrunt wrote:Savlar Chem-Dogs
"Welcome to prison. Here is your lasgun."
Penal Legion run by commissars. Win.
Ya, seems like no ones campaigning for them. Something about fighting all of the horrors of the galaxy while totally high appeals to me. Pretty sure the only way I could fight a carnifex is if I was totally out of my mind stoned.
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Shas'O Dorian wrote:None of the above, Vitrian dragoons all the way
I thought of putting them in. They are the most advanced regular guard infantry I've heard of: reversible glass armour! However, they've never had models and are really just a footnote in the history of the much more famous Tanith First & Only.
Poor Valhallans, no one loves them. I think their spot has been taken by the Vostoyans for the Ruskie fans. I kinda like how Vostroyans aren't neccesarily Imperial either. They're mechanicum.
If anything this just proves people love the Death Guard models and GW needs to release them as normal plastic kits in store.
Any soldier who's willing to fight in a deathworld with out sleeves, is an absolute BadAss. No competition.
Picture 1 looks like a soldier, picture 2 looks like an add for "sexymilitaryboyz.com"
you know you need to take into acount when these pictures were drawn, newer catachan pictures are just as cool such as the command squad picture in the newest codex, and this one:
I thought of putting them in. They are the most advanced regular guard infantry I've heard of: reversible glass armour! However, they've never had models and are really just a footnote in the history of the much more famous Tanith First & Only.
Yea I know, wish they developed them further. If I had time & money to run guard I'd paint them vitrian.
I have to go with DKoK. IIRC, there has been no style of fighting more proportionally killy/shity than Trench warfare, which the Death Korps SPECIALIZES in. Now, I'll grant you that jungle fighting takes a lot of cajones, but specializing in Trench Warfare is so badass as to approach mass insanity.
The Tanith started off with around 3000 men, and after a whole lot of and new recruits, they still number 3000, and they have gone through worse things then most other regiments. Tanith have no tanks, no special weapons. They have like 10 sniper rifles and 10 flamers. Perhaps 10% of the regiment can use a rocket launcher An of course 2 bolt pistols, a plasma pistol and a power sword...oh and we can't forget those single shot auto pistols. Other regiments have a reason to fight, they fight to keep their home world alive and give it glory. The Tanith have no home world, just war. They have gone through worse battles then any other regiment, I mean almost every time they have been outnumbered 3:1. They allways survive the storms and thats why there badass. And of course they have Mkvenner and mkoll the most badass ninjas in the galaxy...and of course don't forget the best sniper in the galaxy, Larkin. Tanith forever!
If by badass you mean best, then it has to be the Cadians. They are the best. boring maybe, but still the best. If you disagree you have not read "Cadian Blood". Of course you can't trust everything the BL publishes, but A-D-B has proven to be true to the fluff so far.
As a military history nut, and particularly British history, got to throw my vote in with the Praetorians. And I loved the Massacre at Big Toof river diorama from years ago.
=I= White-Wolf wrote:The Tanith started off with around 3000 men, and after a whole lot of and new recruits, they still number 3000, and they have gone through worse things then most other regiments. Tanith have no tanks, no special weapons. They have like 10 sniper rifles and 10 flamers. Perhaps 10% of the regiment can use a rocket launcher An of course 2 bolt pistols, a plasma pistol and a power sword...oh and we can't forget those single shot auto pistols. Other regiments have a reason to fight, they fight to keep their home world alive and give it glory. The Tanith have no home world, just war. They have gone through worse battles then any other regiment, I mean almost every time they have been outnumbered 3:1. They allways survive the storms and thats why there badass. And of course they have Mkvenner and mkoll the most badass ninjas in the galaxy...and of course don't forget the best sniper in the galaxy, Larkin. Tanith forever!
Whoa there, they've had their regiment shredded and taken 50% causalties at least 3 times. They maintain a decent troop strength because of replacements just like any other regiment and even then I think they're far below 3000 as of the last book. There's maybe 500 of the actual Tanith from poor Tanith left.
That being said it is total BS that the Catachans have now passed the Tanith!
kizzdougs wrote:If by badass you mean best, then it has to be the Cadians. They are the best. boring maybe, but still the best. If you disagree you have not read "Cadian Blood".
Black Corsair wrote:Tanith First and only! no doubt.....
also, Mkoll kills chaos dreadnoughts usin overloaded LASRIFLE as a bomb!
and pure scottish ninja stealthyness. That's my favorite Ghost short story.
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DarkTraveler777 wrote:Put me firmly in the Praetorian camp. Praetorians make fighting and dying look good.
daedalus wrote:Mordian Iron Guard. Why fight Grimdark Future battles when you could be fighting Grimdark Future battles IN SERGEANT PEPPER'S UNIFORMS!!!!
Total Win.
DarkTraveler777 wrote:Put me firmly in the Praetorian camp. Praetorians make fighting and dying look good.
How so few for the Tallarn Desert Raiders?! These guys always appealed to me. Hit and run in the desert, sandbags and dugouts... (And the models looked pretty good in my opinion). It was actually seeing the old 'Eavy Metal Tallarn basilisk model that got me into 40k I recall. If only forge world complimented their Tallarn heavy weapon crews with some standard infantry models (the design difference between the FW and GW infantry is very different).
The infantry is great enough, but Tallarn was the site of the largest tank battle in history. Tallarn battle tank crews are seriously hardcore- theres some great video clips from the classic Final Liberation game, including a good one of a Leman Russ rolling over a dune, and a windswept commander opening the hatch and scanning the sandstorm with optics. Also, there's something unexplainably awesome about a Tallarn Baneblade... I must have one...
Not to mention Captain Al'rahem and his ornate Instant Death smiticar (glad to see he kept that monster from 2nd ed), he's harder than he looks. What a badass! He makes for some interesting games.
Aside from Tallarn, you've gotta respect the Mordian Iron Guard. Spit, polish, chaos spawn and xenos blood. Steady at the back there.. First Rank, Fire!
Arclaw wrote:How so few for the Tallarn Desert Raiders?! These guys always appealed to me. Hit and run in the desert, sandbags and dugouts... (And the models looked pretty good in my opinion). It was actually seeing the old 'Eavy Metal Tallarn basilisk model that got me into 40k I recall. If only forge world complimented their Tallarn heavy weapon crews with some standard infantry models (the design difference between the FW and GW infantry is very different).
The infantry is great enough, but Tallarn was the site of the largest tank battle in history. Tallarn battle tank crews are seriously hardcore- theres some great video clips from the classic Final Liberation game, including a good one of a Leman Russ rolling over a dune, and a windswept commander opening the hatch and scanning the sandstorm with optics. Also, there's something unexplainably awesome about a Tallarn Baneblade... I must have one...
Not to mention Captain Al'rahem and his ornate Instant Death smiticar (glad to see he kept that monster from 2nd ed), he's harder than he looks. What a badass! He makes for some interesting games.
Aside from Tallarn, you've gotta respect the Mordian Iron Guard. Spit, polish, chaos spawn and xenos blood. Steady at the back there.. First Rank, Fire!
Arclaw wrote:How so few for the Tallarn Desert Raiders?! These guys always appealed to me. Hit and run in the desert, sandbags and dugouts... (And the models looked pretty good in my opinion). It was actually seeing the old 'Eavy Metal Tallarn basilisk model that got me into 40k I recall. If only forge world complimented their Tallarn heavy weapon crews with some standard infantry models (the design difference between the FW and GW infantry is very different).
The infantry is great enough, but Tallarn was the site of the largest tank battle in history. Tallarn battle tank crews are seriously hardcore- theres some great video clips from the classic Final Liberation game, including a good one of a Leman Russ rolling over a dune, and a windswept commander opening the hatch and scanning the sandstorm with optics. Also, there's something unexplainably awesome about a Tallarn Baneblade... I must have one...
Not to mention Captain Al'rahem and his ornate Instant Death smiticar (glad to see he kept that monster from 2nd ed), he's harder than he looks. What a badass! He makes for some interesting games.
Aside from Tallarn, you've gotta respect the Mordian Iron Guard. Spit, polish, chaos spawn and xenos blood. Steady at the back there.. First Rank, Fire!
didnt GW have an article on someones tallarn baneblade, which had loads of kit on it. i cannot find it on the GW website though... tbf tallarn are pretty badass too. if they had a plastic range i would probabely buy them. you cannot mess with an army of T.E Lawrences...
The soldiers don't even get medals and are expected to die horribly in trench warfare.. From the IA books Krieg is essentially a soldier factory which produces soldiers who expect to die. They request the worst theatres of war.
DarkTraveler777 wrote:Put me firmly in the Praetorian camp. Praetorians make fighting and dying look good.
daedalus wrote:Mordian Iron Guard. Why fight Grimdark Future battles when you could be fighting Grimdark Future battles IN SERGEANT PEPPER'S UNIFORMS!!!!
Total Win.
Yes, but who's uniforms are spiffiest?
That is a tough one. Since the Praetorians came from Mordian miniatures originally I guess I'd have to side with the Mordians if for no other reason than they were the first kids on the block to have dress uniforms. But on second thought red would be harder to keep clean than dark blue, so perhaps the Praetorians would win the spiffiest uniform award for sheer effort of keeping Ork gak off their red coats.
The soldiers don't even get medals and are expected to die horribly in trench warfare.. From the IA books Krieg is essentially a soldier factory which produces soldiers who expect to die. They request the worst theatres of war.
They are the most badass.
Krieg is the only planet, currently in the fluff at least, that's authorized to utilize cloning technology on a massive scale.
Make of that what you will.
Automatically Appended Next Post: As for my vote...it's really hard to choose between the Elysians and Cadians, but I have to pick the Cadians.
Screw all these Praetorians, Mordians, etc. Cadia is a planet that does one thing and one thing only:
War.
If they're not mounting a defense of Cadia itself, they're shipping troops offworld to the most intense combat zones in the Imperium so that they can keep their skills honed.
The Cadian Shock is also the most widely emulated regiment out there, in terms of equipment and training.
They've got their own bloody Stormtrooper equivalents for feth's sake!
No, a lot of regiments have Stormtrooper support that's attached to them.
Cadians and the Death Korps are the only ones who can theoretically field entire Stormtrooper equivalent regiments without having to ask the Schola Progenium or the Administratum for Stormtrooper detachments(the Cadians' Kasrkin and the Death Korps' Grenadiers, respectively).
Kanluwen wrote:"Grenadiers" are just veterans with standard lasguns and heavier armor.
They don't have the training or specialist equipment that makes Stormtroopers, Kasrkin, and Krieg Grenadiers unique.
You can apply that same statement to Kasrkin and Krieg Grenadiers, they are simply veterans given better training and equipment after all. Arguably the only equipment difference between stormtroopers and grenadiers is the hotshot lasguns (or hellguns, whatever they're calling them now).
Kanluwen wrote:"Grenadiers" are just veterans with standard lasguns and heavier armor.
They don't have the training or specialist equipment that makes Stormtroopers, Kasrkin, and Krieg Grenadiers unique.
You can apply that same statement to Kasrkin and Krieg Grenadiers, they are simply veterans given better training and equipment after all. Arguably the only equipment difference between stormtroopers and grenadiers is the hotshot lasguns (or hellguns, whatever they're calling them now).
Yes and no.
Kasrkin are mostly brought up from the White Shields and then given specialized training that is as intense, if not more, than the standard Schola Progenium regimen for Stormtroopers. The catch is that just like Stormtroopers, sometimes they bring up veterans from standard infantry Regiments and give them the same training.
Krieg's Grenadiers are a bit of a different bit, as it tends to be a mandatory tour given to troopers who've really been proven in battle.
Why aren't the last chancers not in the list?
(I probably quote it wrong anyway)
''If a prisoner is allowed to choose between death or serving in Starken's last chancers, they often choose death.''
To me, it seems like they rather want to die then serve for him and die.
Besides Catachans, there is one more incredibly badass Imperial Guard group in the grimdarkness of the grimdark future;
*cough*Drookian Fen Guard*cough, cough*
Now I challenge anyone to doubt this logic; It takes massive balls of steel to fight all manner of enemies and weapons while the only "protection" you get "down there" is a simple, wool kilt. Drookian Fen badass? Of course. As badass as Catachans? No way.
loner wrote:Why aren't the last chancers not in the list?
(I probably quote it wrong anyway)
''If a prisoner is allowed to choose between death or serving in Starken's last chancers, they often choose death.''
To me, it seems like they rather want to die then serve for him and die.
Last chancer's aren't a regiment. It's like 12 guys.
Watched Dirty Dozen on the weekend: it was ok. Those old action scenes don't stand up to today's stuff.
Automatically Appended Next Post: It's not even close anymore! Death Korps with a resounding win. Tanith are barely holding off Catachans.
Release plastic minitures for these guys GW!
(also Praetorians somehow trounced Valhallans and Tallarn combined! My god, how did that happen?)
To be fair to the Last Chancers, they start off as a regiment of thousands, then as the campaigns go along, those numbers are whittled down until you get the half-or-so dozen final survivors, for the final mission.
Freakin' come on, Schaeffer has been rebuilt 6 times! They grew him a new arm!
Space_Potato wrote:To be fair to the Last Chancers, they start off as a regiment of thousands, then as the campaigns go along, those numbers are whittled down until you get the half-or-so dozen final survivors, for the final mission.
Freakin' come on, Schaeffer has been rebuilt 6 times! They grew him a new arm!
S_P
I guess I was thinking of that old IG codex of last chancers (or maybe it was White Dwarf) were there was 12 characters in one squad. The had guys like "Hero", "Animal" and "Shiv". Those guys were cool. Lexicanum states they has 4,000 troops in 993M41 but got whittled down to 250 guys after 2.5 years. I guess they are a legitimate regiment. Nonetheless, I prefer the Savlar anyway.
Has to be the Catachans.
You know why? they get a 5+ save, the same as other guardsmen, from their muscles alone. That, gentlemen and ladies, is hardcore.
Gorskar.da.Lost wrote:Has to be the Catachans.
You know why? they get a 5+ save, the same as other guardsmen, from their muscles alone. That, gentlemen and ladies, is hardcore.
Yes, they get a 5+ save based on pure manlines but a Tanith could still sneak up behind him and hit him on the back of the head with a shovel.
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DarkTraveler777 wrote:Put me firmly in the Praetorian camp. Praetorians make fighting and dying look good.
omg you have 2498 points of Praetorians!!! Is that even possible? They must have like 12 models. That's dedication.
Reading The Taros campaign right now. Elysians have bullpup lasguns which is pretty awesome but they don't have a rapid fire setting which is not as awesome. It's so they don't waste ammo which they know will be in short supply behind enemy lines. Comes complete with a 50 round clip that has photocells. Overall pretty badass.
Death Korps or Steel Legion for me 'cos they look the coolest.
Im surprised the cadians have been slated so badly, I really like the Cadians. I was so pleased when the new Cadians were released, cos I always liked the concept but thought the models were pants.
I would pick my army. But that is not listed so Catachan Jungle Fighters. guys with knives and could kick a chaos space marine from Terra to the eye of terror.
Catachans, definitely. Capturing a Lictor to set a trap for a tyranid swarm with its own pheromones, and bathing themselves in ichor to keep from being noticed . . . The novels are grade A bada$$ as well. And they have 3 entries in the new codex right? straken, harker, and marbo. Those guys alone make catachans worth it.
KamikazeCanuck wrote:Cadians are cool. I would say everyone except Mordians and Praetorians. They're the guys with the spiffy uniforms I was talking about.
Cadians are the definition of generic and boring, they have no character
I wouldn't say that. Cadia is an interesting Idea: an entire planet under arms at all times out of neccesity. I see them as a long suffering people. They have so many men killed in battle that there isn't enough land for all the tombstones.
Melissia wrote:I don't like the traditional Valhallans, but I DO like Cain's Valhallans.
naturally, there are female soldiers in the Regiment, that's all the reason you need to cheer them on over everyone else
now, for my choice, it has to be the Cadians. even the Ultramarines would be unable to hold the Cadian Gate. they are have managed to hold off everything the Chaos Gods have thrown at them. these men and women fight immortals and triumph. these soldiers were literally born for war and every citizen is capable of aiding in the defense of thier land. thier cities, transports and even casual clothing are all capable of influencing battles in thier favor. what other planets call militia the Cadians call the new kids, what other planets call civilians the Cadians call reserves and what othe planets call a fortress the Cadians call home.
Cadian Shock Troops Pretty badass seeming they face the horrors of chaos, but are like the ultramarines made vanilla
Catachan Jungle Fighters THEY GET A 5+ SAVE FOR WEARING SOME PLAIN CLOTHES AND TATTOOS! they are the definition of badass their home world, characters and fighting style
Death Korps of Krieg suicidal psycho's and expensive models
Elysian Drop Troops Can never EVER win a dam campaign. they are cool but always loose in the long run *expensive models too*
Mordian Iron Guard badass with night vision like cadians face some scary horrors, but are like robots with there discipline. not much character.
Praetorian Guard LOL never liked their style.
Savlar Chem-Dogs druggies! no models, cool story but no BADASS cannon and characters
Steel Legion short people? look at their size. cool story yarriks pretty badass too but they are just meat for the grinder. are pretty badass though
Tallarn Desert Raiders COOL but i think tie with steal legion with their badass levels probly more because they pwnd DAEMONS!.
Tanith First & Only not much i know about them other than being really sneaky
Valhallan Ice Warriors are exactly like Russians in WW2
Vostroyan Firstborn don't like them very much. got pretty thrashed in Medusa V so there's no real baddassity to them
Melissia wrote:I don't like the traditional Valhallans, but I DO like Cain's Valhallans.
naturally, there are female soldiers in the Regiment, that's all the reason you need to cheer them on over everyone else
now, for my choice, it has to be the Cadians. even the Ultramarines would be unable to hold the Cadian Gate. they are have managed to hold off everything the Chaos Gods have thrown at them. these men and women fight immortals and triumph. these soldiers were literally born for war and every citizen is capable of aiding in the defense of thier land. thier cities, transports and even casual clothing are all capable of influencing battles in thier favor. what other planets call militia the Cadians call the new kids, what other planets call civilians the Cadians call reserves and what othe planets call a fortress the Cadians call home.
Melissia wrote:I don't like the traditional Valhallans, but I DO like Cain's Valhallans.
naturally, there are female soldiers in the Regiment, that's all the reason you need to cheer them on over everyone else
now, for my choice, it has to be the Cadians. even the Ultramarines would be unable to hold the Cadian Gate. they are have managed to hold off everything the Chaos Gods have thrown at them. these men and women fight immortals and triumph. these soldiers were literally born for war and every citizen is capable of aiding in the defense of thier land. thier cities, transports and even casual clothing are all capable of influencing battles in thier favor. what other planets call militia the Cadians call the new kids, what other planets call civilians the Cadians call reserves and what othe planets call a fortress the Cadians call home.
That describes around 85% of imperial worlds
not even buddy, a Hive City is a Hive City, a Cadian Hive City is a bulwark with force fields, anti-space craft cannons, weaving streets with no large open fire lanes that force enemies into thier death as they advance. the Cadians fight a constant war that if it were ever lost could spell the doom of an entire segmentum and more, if they ever lost then even all the reinforcments that could even fit on the planet couldn't fight the enemy back to the gate. every citizen, EVERY citizen that follows the Emperor knows how to fight by the age of 15, there are no helpless screeming masses, unlike 85% of Imperial Worlds
really, the only people who can compare are the Catachans with a world that is thier enemy and asset. a world that can kill them but can more easily kill unwary invaders. a world where it is they that keep the enemy spooked, all worried that a bunch of commandos are gonna start blasting from the forest. it's a place where enemies feel more helpless than a band of heritics on Tallarn, Valhalla or any other place because if the Catachans don't get you then the indigenous life forms will, every time
"any cadian who can't field strip a lasgun by age 10 was born on the wrong planet"
i dont really like the cadians, they certainly arent the most badass, but that pretty much sums it up.
plus have you read cadian blood! they didnt just survive a zombie appocalypse they beat it!
and one of the sergeants was only fifteen iirc
Melissia wrote:I don't like the traditional Valhallans, but I DO like Cain's Valhallans.
naturally, there are female soldiers in the Regiment, that's all the reason you need to cheer them on over everyone else
now, for my choice, it has to be the Cadians. even the Ultramarines would be unable to hold the Cadian Gate. they are have managed to hold off everything the Chaos Gods have thrown at them. these men and women fight immortals and triumph. these soldiers were literally born for war and every citizen is capable of aiding in the defense of thier land. thier cities, transports and even casual clothing are all capable of influencing battles in thier favor. what other planets call militia the Cadians call the new kids, what other planets call civilians the Cadians call reserves and what othe planets call a fortress the Cadians call home.
That describes around 85% of imperial worlds
not even buddy, a Hive City is a Hive City, a Cadian Hive City is a bulwark with force fields, anti-space craft cannons, weaving streets with no large open fire lanes that force enemies into thier death as they advance. the Cadians fight a constant war that if it were ever lost could spell the doom of an entire segmentum and more, if they ever lost then even all the reinforcments that could even fit on the planet couldn't fight the enemy back to the gate. every citizen, EVERY citizen that follows the Emperor knows how to fight by the age of 15, there are no helpless screeming masses, unlike 85% of Imperial Worlds
really, the only people who can compare are the Catachans with a world that is thier enemy and asset. a world that can kill them but can more easily kill unwary invaders. a world where it is they that keep the enemy spooked, all worried that a bunch of commandos are gonna start blasting from the forest. it's a place where enemies feel more helpless than a band of heritics on Tallarn, Valhalla or any other place because if the Catachans don't get you then the indigenous life forms will, every time
All the big regiments are constantly fighting, this is 40k after all. Mordians fought off a full daemon invasion. Tallarn fought the largest tank battles in the fluff and beat a Chaos Marine legion after they virus bombed the planet and turned it into a wasteland. Kriegers nuked their entire world...and then fought a trenchwar over it...for 500 years. Armageddon...self-explanatory
Retribution wrote:Let's see:
Death Korps - entirely militarized
Catachans - entirely militarized
Steel Legion - practically entirely militarized
Mordian's - They're essentially Prussian's in space, so i'd say they're in the same vein as the Steel Legion
Valhallans - entirely militarized after the Ork Waaagh!!!
I'll agree Cadians are the most 'normal" of all them. They're like the Ultramarines of the Guard. You need normal guys though. First plastic IG army was Catachans and they didn't sell so well I believe because people were looking for something more normal.
As for those other guys.
Catachan has many civilians. So does Armageddon, Mordia and Valhalla. Don't know about Krieg: most people there are dead....
Sure, Catachan has civilians...until they're formally placed into the IG; Catachan is, arguably, the most dangerous Death World, remember? Armageddon has civilians, until they're all conscripted during an ork waaagh or a Chaos invasion; same with Mordia and Valhalla
Armageddon probably has more people in hive gang militia than in the actual Steel Legion. Everyone on that planet is fighting Orks but most are do-it-youselfing it. Also most Catachans are not in the Imperial Guard. Ditto with Mordia and Valhalla.
That's the thing about Cadia: Most people are actual Rifle carrying Imperial Guard. 71.75% of the population. The rest: work for the Imperial Guard.
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Sorry, to quote myself on the Cadian issue but its just easier....
most imperial planets are relatively peaceful their troops are usualy fighting halfway across the galaxy somewher they've neve heard of.
its just planets o the eastern galactic border, near the eye of terror and those that share a border with someone nasty that become these well known 'badass' regiments.
Tallarn is in the South. Mordia is in the North. Krieg is in the South. Tanith was in West. Armaggedon is near Terra. Vostroya is in the North. Praetoria is in the South. So actually most of the regiments are not in the East.
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Lotet wrote:
not even buddy, a Hive City is a Hive City, a Cadian Hive City is a bulwark with force fields, anti-space craft cannons, weaving streets with no large open fire lanes that force enemies into thier death as they advance. the Cadians fight a constant war that if it were ever lost could spell the doom of an entire segmentum and more, if they ever lost then even all the reinforcments that could even fit on the planet couldn't fight the enemy back to the gate. every citizen, EVERY citizen that follows the Emperor knows how to fight by the age of 15, there are no helpless screeming masses, unlike 85% of Imperial Worlds
really, the only people who can compare are the Catachans with a world that is thier enemy and asset. a world that can kill them but can more easily kill unwary invaders. a world where it is they that keep the enemy spooked, all worried that a bunch of commandos are gonna start blasting from the forest. it's a place where enemies feel more helpless than a band of heritics on Tallarn, Valhalla or any other place because if the Catachans don't get you then the indigenous life forms will, every time
Well, you only need to look at the BRB to see that Cadia isn't the ONLY Fortress/Garrison World out there. The planet itself is not unique, the fact that it is particularily vital (due to close proximity to the EoT) is.
Lotet wrote:
not even buddy, a Hive City is a Hive City, a Cadian Hive City is a bulwark with force fields, anti-space craft cannons, weaving streets with no large open fire lanes that force enemies into thier death as they advance. the Cadians fight a constant war that if it were ever lost could spell the doom of an entire segmentum and more, if they ever lost then even all the reinforcments that could even fit on the planet couldn't fight the enemy back to the gate. every citizen, EVERY citizen that follows the Emperor knows how to fight by the age of 15, there are no helpless screeming masses, unlike 85% of Imperial Worlds
really, the only people who can compare are the Catachans with a world that is thier enemy and asset. a world that can kill them but can more easily kill unwary invaders. a world where it is they that keep the enemy spooked, all worried that a bunch of commandos are gonna start blasting from the forest. it's a place where enemies feel more helpless than a band of heritics on Tallarn, Valhalla or any other place because if the Catachans don't get you then the indigenous life forms will, every time
Well, you only need to look at the BRB to see that Cadia isn't the ONLY Fortress/Garrison World out there. The planet itself is not unique, the fact that it is particularily vital (due to close proximity to the EoT) is.
cadia is unique for 1)necron pylons, 2)imperiums most fortifiyed /largest fortress world.unlike some otheworlds the loss of cadia means doom to the imperium. if you look in the BRB adia sends advisors to other fortress worlds to support them
i like the vostoyan i mean come on it takes balls to goo out there with that flamable hat and also i like the look of the guns and i like the fluff
Automatically Appended Next Post: i like the vostoyan i mean come on it takes balls to goo out there with that flamable hat and also i like the look of the guns and i like the fluff
Serisously though, my army uses the Cadian models. Though my backstory for them is that they are a regiment from a different planet, I still think Cadians are really interesting and have plenty of character. I think sometimes when people say that a army isn't interesting or doesn't have character, they really mean it isn't obscure enough!
raptor8 wrote:cadia is unique for 1)necron pylons,
So you're telling me that there are no other Imperial Planets with Necron Pylons?
2)imperiums most fortifiyed /largest fortress world.unlike some otheworlds the loss of cadia means doom to the imperium. if you look in the BRB adia sends advisors to other fortress worlds to support them
As a world itself Cadia is much like any other Fortress/Garrison world. What IS unique is that the entire system/nearby sector have been fortified entirely (Kasr Lyrona ect?). Few, if any, systems are fortifed anywhere near to this extent. The actual worldly basis of Cadia is far from unique.
Wow. That makes incredible sense. Obviously all this talk of Tomb Worlds and Necron Ruins located on other planets are just baseless lie. Thank you Kamikaze for the wonderful revelation.
Simple... Cadians.
I don't care if your flower bed can eat you or not.
If you're a ten year old kid fighting freaking Chaos Space Marines with a flashlight, YOU'VE GOT BALLS OF STEEL
Emperors Faithful wrote:Wow. That makes incredible sense. Obviously all this talk of Tomb Worlds and Necron Ruins located on other planets are just baseless lie. Thank you Kamikaze for the wonderful revelation.
im not sure if you noticed but there is a slight diference between pylons annd tombs...
Emperors Faithful wrote:Wow. That makes incredible sense. Obviously all this talk of Tomb Worlds and Necron Ruins located on other planets are just baseless lie. Thank you Kamikaze for the wonderful revelation.
im not sure if you noticed but there is a slight diference between pylons annd tombs...
Obviously he did not. Necron Pylons allow Cadia to not be consumed by The Eye of Terror. It's the only route in and out of The Eye of Terror. That's why its called 'The Cadian gate". It's the only planet that needs pylons. Can't believe I'm even explaining this. It must be GWs most repeated story besides "Ultramarines killed a whole lot of Tyranids".
Emperors Faithful wrote:Wow. That makes incredible sense. Obviously all this talk of Tomb Worlds and Necron Ruins located on other planets are just baseless lie. Thank you Kamikaze for the wonderful revelation.
im not sure if you noticed but there is a slight diference between pylons annd tombs...
Obviously he did not. Necron Pylons allow Cadia to not be consumed by The Eye of Terror. It's the only route in and out of The Eye of Terror. That's why its called 'The Cadian gate". It's the only planet that needs pylons. Can't believe I'm even explaining this. It must be GWs most repeated story besides "Ultramarines killed a whole lot of Tyranids".
Yeah. Cadians are definitely tops. Literally raised from birth. They spend their lives waiting for a chaos invasion. These guys are hardcore. Especially the shock troops.They are literally the best of the best.
General Fuzzum wrote:Yeah. Cadians are definitely tops. Literally raised from birth. They spend their lives waiting for a chaos invasion. These guys are hardcore. Especially the shock troops/Karskin.They are literally the best of the best.
KamikazeCanuck wrote:[Necron Pylons allow Cadia to not be consumed by The Eye of Terror. It's the only route in and out of The Eye of Terror.
You do realise that the EoT came into being after the Fall of the Eldar Empire, right? The Fall occurred after the Necrons (were defeated and) went into Slumber. They were sleeping, for millenium. Not buliding anything or Exterminating, just sleeping. So...how could the Necron Pylons possibly have been built after the Fall?
Automatically Appended Next Post: BTW, the only mention of Necron Pylons on Cadia that I can recall was Eisenhorn: Ordo Malleus. That and a short excerpt elsewhere, the source escapes me. Maybe Leximechanum can offer more?
They are sent to the worst places, to fight the LONG battles, they take countless losses (they have to use cloning to keep up), their comrades are faceless, taking away what little humanity they had left.
Not to mention they NUKED THEIR OWN PLANET TO KILL THE INFIDELS, now that's being a total baller.
I-bounty-hunt-the-elderly wrote:I can't stand the idea of catachans. First of all, the planet doesn't make any sense - is there any evolutionary reason for all this? If all the animals eat people, why are the plants dangerous? Second, if you live your whole life in a constant state of peril, fighting to survive every day, you don't end up a bronzed, muscly superman, you become a scrawny, super-sharp paranoid animal. Thirdly, how does a planet with these issues (only the best survive through puberty apparently) provide enough people to send so many regiments to war, and at the same time maintain a viable gene-pool?
Bit tongue in cheek there, I know it's a game where men cross the galaxy in 5km-long ships to fight with swords, but hey - IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE!
David Drake wrote a book about mercenaries fighting on Venus. Every frigging plant there would try to eat you because the soil was poor, so everything on the planet evolved like Venus fly-traps to eat other things. I assume the same applies on Catachan
Automatically Appended Next Post: by the way, I voted Catachans over my beloved Tallarns as all around guys you wouldn't wanna piss off. The Tallarns do the more sophisticated tactical stuff and we send in the meatshie- ,er Catachans like mini-Ogryns
KamikazeCanuck wrote:[Necron Pylons allow Cadia to not be consumed by The Eye of Terror. It's the only route in and out of The Eye of Terror.
You do realise that the EoT came into being after the Fall of the Eldar Empire, right? The Fall occurred after the Necrons (were defeated and) went into Slumber. They were sleeping, for millenium. Not buliding anything or Exterminating, just sleeping. So...how could the Necron Pylons possibly have been built after the Fall?
Automatically Appended Next Post: BTW, the only mention of Necron Pylons on Cadia that I can recall was Eisenhorn: Ordo Malleus. That and a short excerpt elsewhere, the source escapes me. Maybe Leximechanum can offer more?
I can't prove a negative. You must show were there are other Necron Pylons that diffuse warp energy.
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Kanluwen wrote:Death Korps of Krieg lose a lot of badass points in regards to their "countless losses" and "lack of fear" simply because they are clones.
KamikazeCanuck wrote:Cadians are cool. I would say everyone except Mordians and Praetorians. They're the guys with the spiffy uniforms I was talking about.
Cadians are the definition of generic and boring, they have no character
True. Nuff said.
Anyway- i voted steel legion- I would go death korps, but the steelies have Yarrick. He owns.
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Zarake wrote:Gonna have to go with the Elysian Drop Troops. There is just something about jumping behind your enemy that gets my blood pumping.
Also agreeing about the Cadians, they're just....there.
Ya, Elysians are cool. They are the most modern Army. They look like actual special forces and fight like them too. They're like the rangers from Black Hawk Down. Also: Drop Sentinals!
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KamikazeCanuck wrote:Cadians are cool. I would say everyone except Mordians and Praetorians. They're the guys with the spiffy uniforms I was talking about.
Cadians are the definition of generic and boring, they have no character
I wouldn't say that. Cadia is an interesting Idea: an entire planet under arms at all times out of neccesity. I see them as a long suffering people. They have so many men killed in battle that there isn't enough land for all the tombstones.
Just like every other imperial planet...
like?
Like 95% of Imperial Guard regiments? All of them lose enormous amounts of men...it's the fething IG after all. All of them suffer, it's just that with the Vostroyans, or the Death Korps, or the Mordians, they do it with actual character
they do it with character- lololololololololololololololololololololol
Zarake wrote:Gonna have to go with the Elysian Drop Troops. There is just something about jumping behind your enemy that gets my blood pumping.
Also agreeing about the Cadians, they're just....there.
Ya, Elysians are cool. They are the most modern Army. They look like actual special forces and fight like them too. They're like the rangers from Black Hawk Down. Also: Drop Sentinals!
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KamikazeCanuck wrote:Cadians are cool. I would say everyone except Mordians and Praetorians. They're the guys with the spiffy uniforms I was talking about.
Cadians are the definition of generic and boring, they have no character
I wouldn't say that. Cadia is an interesting Idea: an entire planet under arms at all times out of neccesity. I see them as a long suffering people. They have so many men killed in battle that there isn't enough land for all the tombstones.
Just like every other imperial planet...
like?
Like 3% of Imperial worlds? All of them lose enormous amounts of men...it's the fething IG after all. All of them suffer, it's just that with the Vostroyans, or the Death Korps, or the Mordians, they do it with actual character
they do it with character- lololololololololololololololololololololol
I'm quite surprised with the Catachan poll numbers. It implies that GW was right to release plastic Catachans before Cadian...which they weren't. Pretty sure Cadians sell better than Catachans. Of course that could just be a reflection on the actual models rather than the "fluff".
I'd say Cadians. I don't know why but they seem the most relatble and far more "everyman-esque" than the other guys. Also the coolest individual guardsman has to be Olanius Pius, no contest.
KamikazeCanuck wrote:I'm quite surprised with the Catachan poll numbers. It implies that GW was right to release plastic Catachans before Cadian...which they weren't. Pretty sure Cadians sell better than Catachans. Of course that could just be a reflection on the actual models rather than the "fluff".
The poll is about which regiment has the most badass fluff, not which regiment you'd like to play or which models look the best. The plastic Catachans were a questionable decision because Catachans are too distinctive to represent any more than a small slice of the full diversity of the Imperial Guard, so much so that they even had their own codex for a while. It's like releasing plastic Space Wolves but not regular Space Marines. They might have really great background material but it makes more sense to have tons of people buying plastic Cadians and painting them up in their custom regimental colors. A more common objection to the plastic Catachan models is that they're ugly.
I can't prove a negative. You must show were there are other Necron Pylons that diffuse warp energy.
Aren't necrons in general completely at odds with the working of the warp? Your line of arguement is just ignoring my point. The Necron pylons cannot have been built for the purpose of containing the EoT, as the EoT only came into existence after the Necrons entered their slumber.
I can't prove a negative. You must show were there are other Necron Pylons that diffuse warp energy.
Aren't necrons in general completely at odds with the working of the warp? Your line of arguement is just ignoring my point. The Necron pylons cannot have been built for the purpose of containing the EoT, as the EoT only came into existence after the Necrons entered their slumber.
I'm saying Necrons actively persue Anti-warp technology. Pariahs for example. They are one of the only species that has never used anything warp related. For example, they may be the only species to not use "warp engines". If it were up to them they would just destroy the warp completely.
I'm not ignoring your arguement. You were saying Cadia wasn't the only Imperial world with Necron Pylons. I'm just saying which other one has it then?
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KamikazeCanuck wrote:I'm quite surprised with the Catachan poll numbers. It implies that GW was right to release plastic Catachans before Cadian...which they weren't. Pretty sure Cadians sell better than Catachans. Of course that could just be a reflection on the actual models rather than the "fluff".
The poll is about which regiment has the most badass fluff, not which regiment you'd like to play or which models look the best. The plastic Catachans were a questionable decision because Catachans are too distinctive to represent any more than a small slice of the full diversity of the Imperial Guard, so much so that they even had their own codex for a while. It's like releasing plastic Space Wolves but not regular Space Marines. They might have really great background material but it makes more sense to have tons of people buying plastic Cadians and painting them up in their custom regimental colors. A more common objection to the plastic Catachan models is that they're ugly.
Have to add my thoughts on the original topic. Cadians.
From a modeling perspective, they look like the IG have ever since there was an IG. I've always felt that the myriad of other IG factions (and attendant models) were a blatant (and lame) attempt by GW to create another revenue stream. It's absolutely ridiculous to watch fur-cloaked Vahallans fighting their way across a table with desert or jungle terrain. And it's hard to take the spit and polish of Mordians seriously, they look like the USMC Drill Team. Catachans... well, all I have to say about them is Rambo- First Blood II. Tallarans look like they could be part of the mujahideen. Cadians are in battle dress uniforms with their helmets strapped down (i.e. real soldiers). The newest incarnation isn't as awesome as the 2nd ed. metal ones, but the fact that they are multi-part plastic offers nearly limitless possibilities for dynamic poses, conversions, etc.
And from a 40K lore perspective, they live near a rift in the fabric of reality and are faced with the very real possibility of being consumed by Chaos every day. Death worlds? Feh. A little Roundup will take care of that problem. Gaping hole that leads into the yawning abyss of eternal madness? Yeah.
Catachans. Having a in your army Rambo is one thing, but when being Rambo is an entrance requirement is a whole other world of badass! These guys could probaly put Navy SEALs to shame.
I'm not ignoring your arguement. You were saying Cadia wasn't the only Imperial world with Necron Pylons. I'm just saying which other one has it then?
The ones with Necrons on them.
Nope. There's a big difference between Necron defense pylons which are really just Gauss AA guns and Cadian Pylons. Cadian pylons form a worldwide network that protects the planet from warpstorms. They're pretty nifty btw.
I'm not ignoring your arguement. You were saying Cadia wasn't the only Imperial world with Necron Pylons. I'm just saying which other one has it then?
The ones with Necrons on them.
Nope. There's a big difference between Necron defense pylons which are really just Gauss AA guns and Cadian Pylons. Cadian pylons form a worldwide network that protects the planet from warpstorms. They're pretty nifty btw.
Warpstorms didn't EXIST before Necrons went to sleep after their war with the Eldar. How can they have been built with the express purpose of defending the planet from the warp?
I'm not ignoring your arguement. You were saying Cadia wasn't the only Imperial world with Necron Pylons. I'm just saying which other one has it then?
The ones with Necrons on them.
Nope. There's a big difference between Necron defense pylons which are really just Gauss AA guns and Cadian Pylons. Cadian pylons form a worldwide network that protects the planet from warpstorms. They're pretty nifty btw.
Warpstorms didn't EXIST before Necrons went to sleep after their war with the Eldar. How can they have been built with the express purpose of defending the planet from the warp?
Lets see... old ones using the warp as their tool.....yes these pylons could be useful in a war.
I love the cadians (just because they look generic doesn't mean they are generic, they're the best of the best, other generic regiments mimic them) but the DKoK win it
Lets see... old ones using the warp as their tool.....yes these pylons could be useful in a war.
Primarily as a system of travel and transport. Remember, before the Fall of the Eldar (when the Necrons were already asleep) the warp was a gentle thing that allowed Eldar souls to flit through and reincarnate.
Even if you were to assume that pylons were meant to nullify or defend from the warp, why would Cadia be the only planet to have such pylons?
Lets see... old ones using the warp as their tool.....yes these pylons could be useful in a war.
Primarily as a system of travel and transport. Remember, before the Fall of the Eldar (when the Necrons were already asleep) the warp was a gentle thing that allowed Eldar souls to flit through and reincarnate.
Even if you were to assume that pylons were meant to nullify or defend from the warp, why would Cadia be the only planet to have such pylons?
I am sure the campaign codex of this EoT "success" of GW said explicit those pylons at cadia were of unknown age but predate the first
human settlements and are assumed to counter the warp. Another planet ( hydra cordatus ) was also mentioned which had pylons like the cadian ones. So a single source has 2 worlds with this type of pylons.
Codex necrons blames the old ones to turn the native inhabitants into the creatures we now know as "gods" and "demons".
1) old ones fight Ctan and aim at the weakness of the Ctan -> only powerful in the material realm.
2) a plague of mind controlling aliens drives the Ctan back.But again, these creatures relied upon the warp.
3) Ctan erect anti-warp tech (pylons, cadian type) and bioengineer the pariah/untouchables. Enough intent to assume from IMO.
4) most relics of the era of the "war 60.000 millenia ago", wouldn't exist "today in M41", but some do.
5) The pylons are only described from imperial sources who do not know the functions or intend of them.
6) the effect at the warp could be secondary, and its primary function something else we don't know.
7) Cadia gets some spotlight as it is the gate to the hideout of the traitors. Millions of worlds give us a good chance that cadia isn't the only one with pylons of that sort.
8) Cadia is in front of a former Realm of space elfs, but wasn't swallowed by the warp like other worlds. Maybe Cadia was important before
Humans settled there and the knowledge was lost?
Most badass Guard will be:
- doesn't fear the Nightbringer ( grim reaper in person ), to overcome an inbreed fear and face off a 'stargod' just with a markerlight->
extra badass
I've always liked Cadians because there isn't anything completely over the top about them.
Catachans - We live on a death planet! We choose not to wear armor! We get shot out of the womb ripped from the get go! We're bad ass!
Krieg - Our planet is a death planet! We wear gas masks and our leaders have gas masks that look like skulls! We fight orks and nearly die, but still win! We're bad ass!
Cadian - Our planet is normal. We are constantly assaulted by just about everything, but that's normal. We learn to use weapons early on because it's a necessity, and we go to war because we have to. We die en mass, but that's just how war is, and besides there's always more of us to take our places.
I'm not ignoring your arguement. You were saying Cadia wasn't the only Imperial world with Necron Pylons. I'm just saying which other one has it then?
The ones with Necrons on them.
Nope. There's a big difference between Necron defense pylons which are really just Gauss AA guns and Cadian Pylons. Cadian pylons form a worldwide network that protects the planet from warpstorms. They're pretty nifty btw.
Sector-wide, actually. They're all over the Cadian sector, it's just in a large amount of areas the pylons are damaged beyond functionality.
Lets see... old ones using the warp as their tool.....yes these pylons could be useful in a war.
Primarily as a system of travel and transport. Remember, before the Fall of the Eldar (when the Necrons were already asleep) the warp was a gentle thing that allowed Eldar souls to flit through and reincarnate.
Even if you were to assume that pylons were meant to nullify or defend from the warp, why would Cadia be the only planet to have such pylons?
Its not. It's the only Imperial Planet. Anyways we're getting sidetracked; it is definately The only Imperial Planet in The Cadian Gate. The only stable, permanent pathway between The Materium and Immaterium. Cadians are literally the gatekeepers of hell.
Tanith first and only.. only. The most badass because even though they aren't fully tanith anymore, ibram gaunt is pro as any other fething imperial commander (and more so than most) and because they do what they do with no one on their side xP and who doesn't want super pro troopers that can do just about anything? Vervunhive tank destruction tactics ftw.. give a man a bomb, he blows it up. How many tanks have we killed? about 60. how many men have we lost? about 60.
Cadians are by far the most genuinely badass. No planet is under more military pressure; you say that other regiments are just as burdened, but the Cadians are in fact right next door to the very origin of Chaos incursions into Imperial territory. Almost every man born on that planet is destined to die in battle and no one, no matter how heroic, is promised a permanent grave.
Owain wrote:Cadians are by far the most genuinely badass. No planet is under more military pressure; you say that other regiments are just as burdened, but the Cadians are in fact right next door to the very origin of Chaos incursions into Imperial territory. Almost every man born on that planet is destined to die in battle and no one, no matter how heroic, is promised a permanent grave.
Exactly, there isn't even enough land on the planet for all the Cadians who have died in battle.
Continuing reading The seige of Vraks and it gets quite in depth on hell-guns. Which I though was interesting. They are the Kreig Grenieder variant of course but I imagine Kasirkin ones are pretty similiar.
Hell-guns and "Hotshot" lasguns are the same thing but Hellgun is the prefered term for most troopers. That backpack-powerpack only provides 200 shots. They are very high maintentance and the barrels often warp under the intense heat especially when rapid firing. So the barrels are actually refrigerated! The foregrip is actually there to protect the guardsman's hand from freezing. Between firing the barrel can sometimes frost over.
They are actually not well liked by most guardsmen who actually prefer the more reliable lasgun! However use of them is mandatory for stormtroopers.
Basically live underground because they nuked their planet. Siege corps, who live in some of the worst conditions and are resigned to death. Come on, thats fething hardcore.
Never liked Cadians, because they are so generic. Even thought their whole planet is one giant military zone, and their cities are designed with urban warfare in mind.
Also, a planet the size of Kreig typically produces about 1 regiment per 10 years but Kreig produces 10 regiments per 1 year. In fact the only tithe they pay at all is Imperial Guard regiments.
Commissars are assigned to the Death Korps not to urge them onwards but to pull them back. DKoK commanders will often march his army forwards into complete anihilation when its not strategically prudent and the commissariant is there to be the voice of reason.
And those are your why The Death Korps is leading this poll facts of the day.
Barring the DKoK, i would have to say the Redemption Corps (which is not on your list).. basically these guys are marines without the upgrades..or so the book is written about that way.
Retribution wrote:Let's see:
Death Korps - entirely militarized
Catachans - entirely militarized
Steel Legion - practically entirely militarized
Mordian's - They're essentially Prussian's in space, so i'd say they're in the same vein as the Steel Legion
Valhallans - entirely militarized after the Ork Waaagh!!!
None of this planets have Eye of Terror and Chaos Legions at their front door.
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KamikazeCanuck wrote:I see Death Korps has taken the lead! I can't argue with that. Death Korps fight the way guard are supposed to fight: they send wave after wave of their own men at the enemy until every last bacteria on the planet has been crushed by the body of a falling guardsmen. After the planet is a corspe-strewn, unusable, lifeless wasteland they declare victory and move on to the next one.
I thought that Krieg IG send waves upon waves of tanks to, artillery and man. And they are specialist for siege attacks. SO they actually lose less man than other regiments.
As for my vote : Cadians all the way. Got to love how that Gurdsman stand against Chaos and Tau.
Elysisans are also bad-ass. What is more awesome than to be dropped from the 2000 feet right into enemy head *BLAM* .
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KamikazeCanuck wrote:Also, a planet the size of Kreig typically produces about 1 regiment per 10 years but Kreig produces 10 regiments per 1 year. In fact the only tithe they pay at all is Imperial Guard regiments.
Commissars are assigned to the Death Korps not to urge them onwards but to pull them back. DKoK commanders will often march his army forwards into complete anihilation when its not strategically prudent and the commissariant is there to be the voice of reason.
And those are your why The Death Korps is leading this poll facts of the day.
Retribution wrote:Let's see:
Death Korps - entirely militarized
Catachans - entirely militarized
Steel Legion - practically entirely militarized
Mordian's - They're essentially Prussian's in space, so i'd say they're in the same vein as the Steel Legion
Valhallans - entirely militarized after the Ork Waaagh!!!
None of this planets have Eye of Terror and Chaos Legions at their front door.
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KamikazeCanuck wrote:I see Death Korps has taken the lead! I can't argue with that. Death Korps fight the way guard are supposed to fight: they send wave after wave of their own men at the enemy until every last bacteria on the planet has been crushed by the body of a falling guardsmen. After the planet is a corspe-strewn, unusable, lifeless wasteland they declare victory and move on to the next one.
I thought that Krieg IG send waves upon waves of tanks to, artillery and man. And they are specialist for siege attacks. SO they actually lose less man than other regiments.
As for my vote : Cadians all the way. Got to love how that Gurdsman stand against Chaos and Tau.
Elysisans are also bad-ass. What is more awesome than to be dropped from the 2000 feet right into enemy head *BLAM* .
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KamikazeCanuck wrote:Also, a planet the size of Kreig typically produces about 1 regiment per 10 years but Kreig produces 10 regiments per 1 year. In fact the only tithe they pay at all is Imperial Guard regiments.
Commissars are assigned to the Death Korps not to urge them onwards but to pull them back. DKoK commanders will often march his army forwards into complete anihilation when its not strategically prudent and the commissariant is there to be the voice of reason.
And those are your why The Death Korps is leading this poll facts of the day.
And is it true that they are all clones?
They do a lot of (A LOT!) of preliminary bombardment but they're still very much a infantry in first regiment even if it is in a Gorgon.
They're not clones I think but grown en masse in vitro.
Death Korps of Krieg! Something about thier suicidal mindset and fanaticism just appeals, plus they have badass looking uniforms.
Followed closely by the little Tanith boys, they are just so sad, a sad bunch of highly skilled guys. I reckon they could teach the space marines a thing or two about stealth.
demented_gamer wrote:the elysian drop troops are the best... their here when you need them
yet they've lost in EVERY single imperial armor about them... first tau then the nids ate them and then they lost to Orks.... they have such horrible luck.... (personally i'd have voted for the Armageddon Ork Hunters but they weren't on the list)
Conservationist wrote:Death Korps of Krieg! Something about thier suicidal mindset and fanaticism just appeals, plus they have badass looking uniforms.
Followed closely by the little Tanith boys, they are just so sad, a sad bunch of highly skilled guys. I reckon they could teach the space marines a thing or two about stealth.
I voted DKoK as well.... but stealth? They're specialty is bombarding the hell out of you for a few weeks then charging your lines while still bombarding you with artillery.
Conservationist wrote:Death Korps of Krieg! Something about thier suicidal mindset and fanaticism just appeals, plus they have badass looking uniforms.
Followed closely by the little Tanith boys, they are just so sad, a sad bunch of highly skilled guys. I reckon they could teach the space marines a thing or two about stealth.
I voted DKoK as well.... but stealth? They're specialty is bombarding the hell out of you for a few weeks then charging your lines while still bombarding you with artillery.
You probably should relax and read through the post again, but anyways to save you that time, I meant Tanith may give space marines a run for thier money, until the auspex start up.
Conservationist wrote:Death Korps of Krieg! Something about thier suicidal mindset and fanaticism just appeals, plus they have badass looking uniforms.
Followed closely by the little Tanith boys, they are just so sad, a sad bunch of highly skilled guys. I reckon they could teach the space marines a thing or two about stealth.
I voted DKoK as well.... but stealth? They're specialty is bombarding the hell out of you for a few weeks then charging your lines while still bombarding you with artillery.
You probably should relax and read through the post again, but anyways to save you that time, I meant Tanith may give space marines a run for thier money, until the auspex start up.
Yes, cuz you know im so mad about a post you put up..... lol I'm just so worked up i could throw my PC across the room! WWWWAAAAAGGGGHHHH!!!!
ANYWAYS, I would say that the Cadian's are a close second for me. Constant planetary invasions by chaos has to get hard on your sanity after a while.
I'm gonna have to go with the Catachans on this one, though the Death Korps and the Tanith are both badass in their own way, the Catachans are just so hardcore they take the cake. The fact that a regiment spent year hunting tyranid lictors in a swamp is enough to win my vote.
mrsmith wrote:Cadians are weak? they live on a planet that is the last stop before the entance of hell and the first stop for every demonic horde! i think they win.
Yes, but for Catachans and DKoK, they join the army to escape their home. That's pretty tough compared to Cadians and other imperial guard.
What about the ork hunters? Oh well, guss I will say death korps, catachans, then savlar chem-dogs in that order. Drop troops are cool to, I guss they are all cool, in there own way!
Jack42494 wrote:What about the ork hunters? Oh well, guss I will say death korps, catachans, then savlar chem-dogs in that order. Drop troops are cool to, I guss they are all cool, in there own way!
they're amazing? cus what other imperial guard army type STEALS ork weapons and uses them? what other imperial guard army has twin linked assault cannon sentinels with loud speaker on them? none other then the ork hunters
Jack42494 wrote:What about the ork hunters? Oh well, guss I will say death korps, catachans, then savlar chem-dogs in that order. Drop troops are cool to, I guss they are all cool, in there own way!
they're amazing? cus what other imperial guard army type STEALS ork weapons and uses them? what other imperial guard army has twin linked assault cannon sentinels with loud speaker on them? none other then the ork hunters
I was asking why they are not on the poll. I was saying that they were the coolest, with the others coming after. Sorry about the miscommunication!
I voted Krieg, for the reason of fighting with a re-breather? Thats dangg difficult, just try to be efficiently fighting with a combat mask in front of you and youre not only worried about getting shot but youre worried your air supply runs out and you get killed by the toxic air or your gas tank gets shot in which case you also die.
mindfield wrote:I voted Krieg, for the reason of fighting with a re-breather? Thats dangg difficult, just try to be efficiently fighting with a combat mask in front of you and youre not only worried about getting shot but youre worried your air supply runs out and you get killed by the toxic air or your gas tank gets shot in which case you also die.
Well the DKoK arent ALWAYS on toxic dead world's. They are probably posted at them a lot but the mask is mainly for looks now. However you are right, imagine your mask slipping off for any amount of time on a world that is to toxic to breath regularly even at Imperium standards. Living on a forge world is probably like breathing inside of a smokestack nowadays
I have also heard they wear the masks as part of their shame and guilt. Noone see's their faces and none of them have names..... very grimdark.
mindfield wrote:I voted Krieg, for the reason of fighting with a re-breather? Thats dangg difficult, just try to be efficiently fighting with a combat mask in front of you and youre not only worried about getting shot but youre worried your air supply runs out and you get killed by the toxic air or your gas tank gets shot in which case you also die.
Well the DKoK arent ALWAYS on toxic dead world's. They are probably posted at them a lot but the mask is mainly for looks now. However you are right, imagine your mask slipping off for any amount of time on a world that is to toxic to breath regularly even at Imperium standards. Living on a forge world is probably like breathing inside of a smokestack nowadays
I have also heard they wear the masks as part of their shame and guilt. Noone see's their faces and none of them have names..... very grimdark.
It's out o habit; Krieg was decimated with nukes, so now everyone has to wear gas masks. The gas mask just becomes a second skin to them.
Conservationist wrote:Rather uncomfortable second skin. Its like dealing with a pair of spectacles, except a pair that probably worsens yur eyesight.
having to qualify with a gas mask currently is no joke. However, i would probably suggest that the Kriegers, and other IG units that are "always" in rebreathers or other masks, have probably modified their sights on their weapons, or had optics developed to allow them to be more accurate.
telion -> raven guard->night lords->alpha legion ->Tanith Scout corp -> Mandrakes -> Oan Mkoll -> Mkvenner
that's how the stealth totem pole works.
There ya go. NOW its fixed.
fething straight, but I beg to differ, NOW its fixed.
That's a tough one. Maybe on a good day Mkvenner could outsneak Mkoll but I still give the edge to Mkoll. Mkvenner could definately beat Mkoll in a Karate match though. Guys an actual fething ninja.
Anyways, Finishing of the Vraks trilogy and I feel I should mention some IG who are even more badass than the Death Korps of Kieg: The Death Korps of Krieg Engineers! By The Emperor, The DKoK are the grimmest, darkest IG of all but the Engineering Korps is to regular DKoK what DKoK are to normal Guard. Tunnel rat extraordinaires!
That's a tough one. Maybe on a good day Mkvenner could outsneak Mkoll but I still give the edge to Mkoll. Mkvenner could definitely beat Mkoll in a Karate match though. Guys an actual fething ninja.
Mkoll admits that only one man had ever surpassed him in the art of stealth and scout and he was referring to Mkvenner at the time.
That and the fact that if you rip out your year 40,000 edition of the oxford gothic dictionary and look up the phrase "fething badass" it displays a picture of an inquisitor, his retinue, and a team of stormtroopers looking around and gaping at the ninja Houdini that they just had pulled on them.
DKoK get my vote.
Shell a hive for 10 years, the hive surrendered after 2
thats why the Dkok get my second place vote with the Catachans coming in at third
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and new recruits, they still number 3000, and they have gone through worse things then most other regiments. Tanith have no tanks, no special weapons. They have like 10 sniper rifles and 10 flamers. Perhaps 10% of the regiment can use a rocket launcher An of course 2 bolt pistols, a plasma pistol and a power sword...oh and we can't forget those single shot auto pistols. Other regiments have a reason to fight, they fight to keep their home world alive and give it glory. The Tanith have no home world, just war. They have gone through worse battles then any other regiment, I mean almost every time they have been outnumbered 3:1. They allways survive the 
tbf tallarn are pretty badass too. if they had a plastic range i would probabely buy them. you cannot mess with an army of T.E Lawrences... 
Don't tell me Tanith aren't badass 
