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Barack Obama... what do you think? @ 2009/08/25 20:03:02


Post by: Frazzled


Have you not seen YMDC lately?



Barack Obama... what do you think? @ 2009/08/25 20:03:20


Post by: JohnHwangDD


sebster wrote:
JohnHwangDD wrote:http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=98589

Heh. I mean, I think most of us had figured out your interest in reality was loose at best, but that's quite something.

My interest in OT is tied entirely to how funny or amusing something is. WND is very entertaining, but they raise a good point.

And without the certificate, how are we supposed to ascertain reality? It's not like we can take his word for it.

He's a goddamm Librul for crissakes...

You know what'd be more fun... pretending that Obama was ineligible because he was really only 32 years old. It wouldn't be any dumber and it would be at least a little original.

You know what'd be even better than that? You not being an ass.


Barack Obama... what do you think? @ 2009/08/25 20:07:16


Post by: jp400




Change we can believe in!


Barack Obama... what do you think? @ 2009/08/25 20:16:27


Post by: Frazzled


Modquisition on:

Gentlemen, politeness, even in the terror dome that is the OT, is occasionally required.

Let us get back to politeness or at least bare tolerance else this thread wil be closed and I get to use THE STICK. I have faith we can get it back together here, yes I do.






Barack Obama... what do you think? @ 2009/08/25 20:50:12


Post by: Cairnius


LOL Frazzled, you stir the pot almost more than anyone, especially for a Moderator. They should get someone in here who doesn't give a damn about any of this such that he can maintain utter neutrality.

I found this editorial about Obama's Presidency so far which I really liked, outside of trying to equate the town hall wingnuts as in any way, shape, or form representing a sizeable chunk of the voting populace and not being Republican-organized disruptors...

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203706604574370301468452872.html?mod=djemEditorialPage

This is the part I liked the most, because I think it is the most true:

The Obama devotees were the victims of their own belief in political magic. The devotees could not make up their minds. In a newly minted U.S. senator from Illinois, they saw the embodiment of Abraham Lincoln, Franklin Delano Roosevelt and John F. Kennedy. Like Lincoln, Mr. Obama was tall and thin and from Illinois, and the historic campaign was launched out of Springfield. The oath of office was taken on the Lincoln Bible. Like FDR, he had a huge economic challenge, and he better get it done, repair and streamline the economy in his "first hundred days." Like JFK, he was young and stylish, with a young family.

All this hero-worship before Mr. Obama met his first test of leadership. In reality, he was who he was, a Chicago politician who had done well by his opposition to the Iraq war. He had run a skillful campaign, and had met a Clinton machine that had run out of tricks and a McCain campaign that never understood the nature of the contest of 2008.

He was no FDR, and besides the history of the depression—the real history—bears little resemblance to the received narrative of the nation instantly rescued, in the course of 100 days or 200 days, by an interventionist state. The economic distress had been so deep and relentless that FDR began his second term, in 1937, with the economy still in the grip of recession.

Nor was JFK about style. He had known military service and combat, and familial loss; he had run in 1960 as a hawk committed to the nation's victory in the Cold War. He and his rival, Richard Nixon, shared a fundamental outlook on American power and its burdens.

Now that realism about Mr. Obama has begun to sink in, these iconic figures of history had best be left alone. They can't rescue the Obama presidency. Their magic can't be his. Mr. Obama isn't Lincoln with a BlackBerry. Those great personages are made by history, in the course of history, and not by the spinners or the smitten talking heads.


Barack Obama... what do you think? @ 2009/08/25 20:53:28


Post by: jp400


Cairnius wrote:LOL Frazzled, you stir the pot almost more than anyone, especially for a Moderator. They should get someone in here who doesn't give a damn about any of this such that he can maintain utter neutrality.....




Barack Obama... what do you think? @ 2009/08/25 20:54:01


Post by: dogma


Frazzled wrote:Have you not seen YMDC lately?



I don't even go in there. I don't really play 40k anymore, and even if I did I would never take it so seriously as to actively dispute the meaning of a rule. If I want that kind of competition I'll just start submitting to philosophy journals again, or start playing more Rugby.


Barack Obama... what do you think? @ 2009/08/25 21:02:05


Post by: jp400


Or you could be like Gwar! and spam that thread into submission....
Been here 5 months and has 7k post count.... And thats with a ban in that time frame


Barack Obama... what do you think? @ 2009/08/25 22:04:25


Post by: Frazzled


dogma wrote:
Frazzled wrote:Have you not seen YMDC lately?



I don't even go in there. I don't really play 40k anymore, and even if I did I would never take it so seriously as to actively dispute the meaning of a rule. If I want that kind of competition I'll just start submitting to philosophy journals again, or start playing more Rugby.


Nah my point being, the placement of a comma will cause knifefights not seen since the Islamic jihads of the last millenium.


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Frazzled wrote:
dogma wrote:
Frazzled wrote:Have you not seen YMDC lately?



I don't even go in there. I don't really play 40k anymore, and even if I did I would never take it so seriously as to actively dispute the meaning of a rule. If I want that kind of competition I'll just start submitting to philosophy journals again, or start playing more Rugby.


Nah my point being, the placement of a comma will cause knifefights not seen since the Islamic jihads of the last millenium.



Cairnius wrote:
LOL Frazzled, you stir the pot almost more than anyone, especially for a Moderator. They should get someone in here who doesn't give a damn about any of this such that he can maintain utter neutrality.....


Nah. It takes someone interested to dare the OT. After all, only Nixon could go to China.


Barack Obama... what do you think? @ 2009/08/25 22:10:19


Post by: dogma


Frazzled wrote:
Nah my point being, the placement of a comma will cause knifefights not seen since the Islamic jihads of the last millenium.


Oh, the placement of a comma, that's serious business. I was objecting to treating one comma as a rigid means of segregating one element of a sentence from the rest of it, while treating another as if it didn't exist.


Barack Obama... what do you think? @ 2009/08/26 01:50:03


Post by: Wrexasaur


Dogma plays rugby like this... teamwork is key everyone, just remember that.



GO CAL!!! WOOT!


Barack Obama... what do you think? @ 2009/08/26 06:49:23


Post by: sebster


JohnHwangDD wrote:My interest in OT is tied entirely to how funny or amusing something is. WND is very entertaining, but they raise a good point.


You've said that before, it's always an explanation for repeating a dubious right wing talking point. You have an odd sense of humour. 'Trickle up' :giggle giggle:

And without the certificate, how are we supposed to ascertain reality? It's not like we can take his word for it.


It has been provided, both physically and on-line. If you're going to play with a conspiracy theory at least keep up with what your side is claiming (hint - now they claim it's fake, and the birth announcements in Hawaiin papers were planted).

There is zero plausibility to the claims.

You know what'd be even better than that? You not being an ass.


Nothing personal, but as long as you raise issues as dumb as Obama's citizenship I'm going to keep calling them dumb.


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Cairnius wrote:LOL Frazzled, you stir the pot almost more than anyone, especially for a Moderator. They should get someone in here who doesn't give a damn about any of this such that he can maintain utter neutrality.....




I hope that penguin has a decent frequent flyer program.


Barack Obama... what do you think? @ 2009/08/30 08:22:57


Post by: Fateweaver


i don't vote dem because I like having the ability to own guns; think welfare is a crutch for people to breed and have crap loads of kids and not have to work. I also think that we should close our borders and say feth the rest of the world.

Bush did lots of stupid gak but slick willy was no better. Obama will fail just as bad.


Barack Obama... what do you think? @ 2009/08/30 08:25:46


Post by: Kilkrazy


halonachos wrote:Don't put yourself in the same boat of ignorance as those who said that about bush. He's your president but you didn't vote for him because you dislike/hate the guy or his politics.

Obama is our president but he sucks at the job and we want a new one.


Fortunately you will get the chance in three years and two months.


Barack Obama... what do you think? @ 2009/08/30 08:35:15


Post by: focusedfire


Gee, You are awfully optimistic there Killkrazy.

I've learned to never view tomorrow as a guaranteed thing. It may be probable or even highly likely but not a sure thing.

That is why you act today.



Barack Obama... what do you think? @ 2009/08/30 08:53:48


Post by: Wrexasaur





Barack Obama... what do you think? @ 2009/08/30 10:07:44


Post by: dogma


Cairnius wrote:
I found this editorial about Obama's Presidency so far which I really liked, outside of trying to equate the town hall wingnuts as in any way, shape, or form representing a sizeable chunk of the voting populace and not being Republican-organized disruptors...


Those are distinct groups?