+2 hours

Chaos
Black Legion ... 1--
Thousand Sons (MoT) ... 6
World Eaters (MoK) ... 7

ELDAR
Saim-Hann ... 7
Dark Eldar ... 7
Exodites ... 10
Harlequins ... 8

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Mordian ... 2
Tallarn ... 10
Tanith ... 10
Ad Mech ... 7

NECRONS
Deceiver ... 5
Nightbringer ... 6

ORK KLANZ
Blood Axes ... 2--
Snakebites ...7

TYRANID HIVE FLEETS
Behemoth ... 6

Chaos
Black Legion ... 2
Thousand Sons (MoT) ... 6
World Eaters (MoK) ... 7

ELDAR
Saim-Hann ... 7
Dark Eldar ... 7
Exodites ... 10
Harlequins ... 8

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Mordian ... 2
Tallarn ... 10
Tanith ... 9-
Ad Mech ... 6-

NECRONS
Deceiver ... 5
Nightbringer ... 6

ORK KLANZ
Blood Axes ... 3
Snakebites ...7

TYRANID HIVE FLEETS
Behemoth ... 6

@ferret: you missed some votes...

Black Legion ... 1

Blood Axes ... 2

Chaos
Black Legion ... 0 --- !!!
Thousand Sons (MoT) ... 6
World Eaters (MoK) ... 7

ELDAR
Saim-Hann ... 7
Dark Eldar ... 7
Exodites ... 10
Harlequins ... 8

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Mordian ... 2
Tallarn ... 10
Tanith ... 9
Ad Mech ... 6

NECRONS
Deceiver ... 5
Nightbringer ... 5 --

ORK KLANZ
Blood Axes ... 2
Snakebites ...7

TYRANID HIVE FLEETS
Behemoth ... 6

Chaos
Thousand Sons (MoT) ... 6
World Eaters (MoK) ... 7

ELDAR
Saim-Hann ... 7
Dark Eldar ... 7
Exodites ... 10
Harlequins ... 8

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Mordian ... 1---
Tallarn ... 10
Tanith ... 9
Ad Mech ... 6

NECRONS
Deceiver ... 5
Nightbringer ... 5

ORK KLANZ
Blood Axes ... 1---
Snakebites ...7

TYRANID HIVE FLEETS
Behemoth ... 6

....And yet again Eldar are going to win because noone hates them.

Chaos
Thousand Sons (MoT) ... 6
World Eaters (MoK) ... 7

ELDAR
Saim-Hann ... 7
Dark Eldar ... 6-
Exodites ... 10
Harlequins ... 8

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Mordian ... 1
Tallarn ... 10
Tanith ... 9
Ad Mech ... 6

NECRONS
Deceiver ... 5
Nightbringer ... 5

ORK KLANZ
Blood Axes ... 0-----
Snakebites ...7

TYRANID HIVE FLEETS
Behemoth ... 6

the_ferrett wrote:....And yet again Eldar are going to win because noone hates them.

LOL! With 6 races, game's not even close to done.

For all we know, Nids, Orks, Chaos, or Necrons could outlast the Eldar & IG.

All that's for sure is no repeat win for Black Templars!

Chaos
Thousand Sons (MoT) ... 6
World Eaters (MoK) ... 7

ELDAR
Saim-Hann ... 7
Dark Eldar ... 7+++
Exodites ... 10
Harlequins ... 8

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Mordian ... 0----
Tallarn ... 10
Tanith ... 9
Ad Mech ... 6

NECRONS
Deceiver ... 5
Nightbringer ... 5

ORK KLANZ
Snakebites ...7

TYRANID HIVE FLEETS
Behemoth ... 6

+2 Hrs

Chaos
Thousand Sons (MoT) ... 6
World Eaters (MoK) ... 7

ELDAR
Saim-Hann ... 7
Dark Eldar ... 6---
Exodites ... 9---
Harlequins ... 8

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Tallarn ... 10
Tanith ... 9
Ad Mech ... 6

NECRONS
Deceiver ... 5
Nightbringer ... 5

ORK KLANZ
Snakebites ...7

TYRANID HIVE FLEETS
Behemoth ... 6

+5 hours

Chaos
Thousand Sons (MoT) ... 6
World Eaters (MoK) ... 7

ELDAR
Saim-Hann ... 7
Dark Eldar ... 7+++
Exodites ... 9
Harlequins ... 8

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Tallarn ... 10
Tanith ... 9
Ad Mech ... 5----

NECRONS
Deceiver ... 5
Nightbringer ... 5

ORK KLANZ
Snakebites ...7

TYRANID HIVE FLEETS
Behemoth ... 6

Chaos
Thousand Sons (MoT) ... 6
World Eaters (MoK) ... 7

ELDAR
Saim-Hann ... 7
Dark Eldar ... 6--
Exodites ... 9
Harlequins ... 7--

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Tallarn ... 10
Tanith ... 9
Ad Mech ... 5

NECRONS
Deceiver ... 5
Nightbringer ... 5

ORK KLANZ
Snakebites ...7

TYRANID HIVE FLEETS
Behemoth ... 6

Chaos
Thousand Sons (MoT) ... 6
World Eaters (MoK) ... 7

ELDAR
Saim-Hann ... 7
Dark Eldar ... 6
Exodites ... 10+
Harlequins ... 8+

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Tallarn ... 10
Tanith ... 9
Ad Mech ... 5

NECRONS
Deceiver ... 5
Nightbringer ... 5

ORK KLANZ
Snakebites ...7

TYRANID HIVE FLEETS
Behemoth ... 6

OT: shall we imagine what happens to the "pointy eared in space" if we focus our efforts on them?
Lets guess there is 1-2 eldar players....

1hadhq wrote:OT: shall we imagine what happens to the "pointy eared in space" if we focus our efforts on them?

It's the same as any other army if you focus efforts on them...

Like, say, Imperial Guard, which you seem to be protecting...

Perhaps we should make Guard the case study for "focused efforts" instead???

Would that be better?

2h

Chaos
Thousand Sons (MoT) ... 6
World Eaters (MoK) ... 7

ELDAR
Saim-Hann ... 7
Dark Eldar ... 5--
Exodites ... 10
Harlequins ... 7--

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Tallarn ... 10
Tanith ... 9
Ad Mech ... 5

NECRONS
Deceiver ... 5
Nightbringer ... 5

ORK KLANZ
Snakebites ...7

TYRANID HIVE FLEETS
Behemoth ... 6

@ john: how many "we" can the space elfs gather? 90% ?
It seems I have some experience with pirated threads :(
but generally the men and women of the IG give their lives willingly to protect those in need.

Then, I guess you won't have a problem if the rest of the players focus on Guard, after all. Works for me.

JohnHwangDD wrote:Then, I guess you won't have a problem if the rest of the players focus on Guard, after all. Works for me.

This would change what exactly? Already, most here focus on IG.

Just to inform everyone: usually, eldar use your favorite army as a one-way tool. Think about it.

+2h

Chaos
Thousand Sons (MoT) ... 6
World Eaters (MoK) ... 7

ELDAR
Saim-Hann ... 7
Dark Eldar ... 5
Exodites ... 10
Harlequins ... 7

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Tallarn ... 10
Tanith ... 8 --
Ad Mech ... 4 --

NECRONS
Deceiver ... 5
Nightbringer ... 5

ORK KLANZ
Snakebites ...7

TYRANID HIVE FLEETS
Behemoth ... 6

Chaos
Thousand Sons (MoT) ... 6
World Eaters (MoK) ... 7

ELDAR
Saim-Hann ... 6 ----
Dark Eldar ... 5
Exodites ... 10
Harlequins ... 6 -----

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Tallarn ... 10
Tanith ... 8
Ad Mech ... 4

NECRONS
Deceiver ... 5
Nightbringer ... 5

ORK KLANZ
Snakebites ...7

TYRANID HIVE FLEETS
Behemoth ... 6

Chaos
Thousand Sons (MoT) ... 6
World Eaters (MoK) ... 7

ELDAR
Saim-Hann ... 6
Dark Eldar ... 5
Exodites ... 10
Harlequins ... 6

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Tallarn ... 9-
Tanith ... 8
Ad Mech ... 3-

NECRONS
Deceiver ... 5
Nightbringer ... 5

ORK KLANZ
Snakebites ...7

TYRANID HIVE FLEETS
Behemoth ... 6

Chaos
Thousand Sons (MoT) ... 5--
World Eaters (MoK) ... 6--

ELDAR
Saim-Hann ... 6
Dark Eldar ... 5
Exodites ... 10
Harlequins ... 6

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Tallarn ... 9
Tanith ... 8
Ad Mech ... 3

NECRONS
Deceiver ... 5
Nightbringer ... 5

ORK KLANZ
Snakebites ...7

TYRANID HIVE FLEETS
Behemoth ... 6

Chaos
Thousand Sons (MoT) ... 5
World Eaters (MoK) ... 6

ELDAR
Saim-Hann ... 6
Dark Eldar ... 4--
Exodites ... 10
Harlequins ... 5--

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Tallarn ... 9
Tanith ... 8
Ad Mech ... 3

NECRONS
Deceiver ... 5
Nightbringer ... 5

ORK KLANZ
Snakebites ...7

TYRANID HIVE FLEETS
Behemoth ... 6

Chaos
Thousand Sons (MoT) ... 5
World Eaters (MoK) ... 6

ELDAR
Saim-Hann ... 6
Dark Eldar ... 4
Exodites ... 11+
Harlequins ... 6+

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Tallarn ... 9
Tanith ... 8
Ad Mech ... 3

NECRONS
Deceiver ... 5
Nightbringer ... 5

ORK KLANZ
Snakebites ...7

TYRANID HIVE FLEETS
Behemoth ... 6

+2h

Chaos
Thousand Sons (MoT) ... 5
World Eaters (MoK) ... 6

ELDAR
Saim-Hann ... 6
Dark Eldar ... 4
Exodites ... 11
Harlequins ... 6

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Tallarn ... 9
Tanith ... 7 --
Ad Mech ... 2 --

NECRONS
Deceiver ... 5
Nightbringer ... 5

ORK KLANZ
Snakebites ...7

TYRANID HIVE FLEETS
Behemoth ... 6

+2h

Chaos
Thousand Sons (MoT) ... 5
World Eaters (MoK) ... 5-

ELDAR
Saim-Hann ... 6
Dark Eldar ... 4
Exodites ... 10-
Harlequins ... 6

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Tallarn ... 9
Tanith ... 7
Ad Mech ... 2

NECRONS
Deceiver ... 5
Nightbringer ... 5

ORK KLANZ
Snakebites ...7

TYRANID HIVE FLEETS
Behemoth ... 6

+2h

Chaos
Thousand Sons (MoT) ... 5
World Eaters (MoK) ... 6

ELDAR
Saim-Hann ... 6
Dark Eldar ... 4
Exodites ... 10
Harlequins ... 6

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Tallarn ... 9
Tanith ... 7
Ad Mech ... 1 --

NECRONS
Deceiver ... 5
Nightbringer ... 5

ORK KLANZ
Snakebites ... 6 --

TYRANID HIVE FLEETS
Behemoth ... 6

Chaos
Thousand Sons (MoT) ... 5
World Eaters (MoK) ... 6

ELDAR
Saim-Hann ... 6
Dark Eldar ... 4
Exodites ... 10
Harlequins ... 6

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Tallarn ... 8-
Tanith ... 7
Ad Mech ... 0 --

NECRONS
Deceiver ... 5
Nightbringer ... 5

ORK KLANZ
Snakebites ... 6

TYRANID HIVE FLEETS
Behemoth ... 6

Chaos
Thousand Sons (MoT) ... 5
World Eaters (MoK) ... 6

ELDAR
Saim-Hann ... 6
Dark Eldar ... 3--
Exodites ... 10
Harlequins ... 5--

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Tallarn ... 8
Tanith ... 7

NECRONS
Deceiver ... 5
Nightbringer ... 5

ORK KLANZ
Snakebites ... 6

TYRANID HIVE FLEETS
Behemoth ... 6

Chaos
Thousand Sons (MoT) ... 5
World Eaters (MoK) ... 6

ELDAR
Saim-Hann ... 6
Dark Eldar ... 4+++
Exodites ... 10
Harlequins ... 5

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Tallarn ... 8
Tanith ... 6---

NECRONS
Deceiver ... 5
Nightbringer ... 5

ORK KLANZ
Snakebites ... 6

TYRANID HIVE FLEETS
Behemoth ... 6

Chaos
Thousand Sons (MoT) ... 5
World Eaters (MoK) ... 6

ELDAR
Saim-Hann ... 6
Dark Eldar ... 5+++
Exodites ... 10
Harlequins ... 5

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Tallarn ... 8
Tanith ... 5---

NECRONS
Deceiver ... 5
Nightbringer ... 5

ORK KLANZ
Snakebites ... 6

TYRANID HIVE FLEETS
Behemoth ... 6

Wow, this is the third time I had to post a message because of this problem, in this thread.

Drk_Oblitr8r wrote:Wow, this is the third time I had to post a message because of this problem, in this thread.

So we all suffer from this?

Can't see your last vote until your latest post.



Asked Lego :

later this day.... ( 2h + )

Chaos
Thousand Sons (MoT) ... 5
World Eaters (MoK) ... 5 ( FF )

ELDAR
Saim-Hann ... 5--
Dark Eldar ... 5
Exodites ... 10
Harlequins ... 4--

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Tallarn ... 8
Tanith ... 5

NECRONS
Deceiver ... 5
Nightbringer ... 5

ORK KLANZ
Snakebites ... 6

TYRANID HIVE FLEETS
Behemoth ... 6

Chaos
Thousand Sons (MoT) ... 5
World Eaters (MoK) ... (4-)

ELDAR
Saim-Hann ... 6+
Dark Eldar ... 5
Exodites ... 10
Harlequins ... 4

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Tallarn ... 8
Tanith ... 5

NECRONS
Deceiver ... 5
Nightbringer ... 5

ORK KLANZ
Snakebites ... 6

TYRANID HIVE FLEETS
Behemoth ... 6

edit for my mistake up thread

Chaos
Thousand Sons (MoT) ... 5
World Eaters (MoK) ... (4)

ELDAR
Saim-Hann ... 6
Dark Eldar ... 5
Exodites ... 10
Harlequins ... 4

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Tallarn ... 7-
Tanith ... 4-

NECRONS
Deceiver ... 5
Nightbringer ... 5

ORK KLANZ
Snakebites ... 6

TYRANID HIVE FLEETS
Behemoth ... 6

Chaos
Thousand Sons (MoT) ... 4-
World Eaters (MoK) ... (4)

ELDAR
Saim-Hann ... 5-
Dark Eldar ... 5
Exodites ... 10
Harlequins ... 4

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Tallarn ... 7
Tanith ... 4

NECRONS
Deceiver ... 5
Nightbringer ... 5

ORK KLANZ
Snakebites ... 6

TYRANID HIVE FLEETS
Behemoth ... 6

Chaos
Thousand Sons (MoT) ... 4
World Eaters (MoK) ... 4

ELDAR
Saim-Hann ... 5
Dark Eldar ... 5
Exodites ... 10
Harlequins ... 4

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Tallarn ... 7
Tanith ... 4

NECRONS
Deceiver ... 4 --
Nightbringer ... 4 --

ORK KLANZ
Snakebites ... 6

TYRANID HIVE FLEETS
Behemoth ... 6

Tallies are correct as of Hawkeye, yes?

Chaos
Thousand Sons (MoT) ... 4
World Eaters (MoK) ... 4

ELDAR
Saim-Hann ... 4--
Dark Eldar ... 5
Exodites ... 10
Harlequins ... 3--

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Tallarn ... 7
Tanith ... 4

NECRONS
Deceiver ... 4
Nightbringer ... 4

ORK KLANZ
Snakebites ... 6

TYRANID HIVE FLEETS
Behemoth ... 6


IICC were back on track.

Chaos
Thousand Sons (MoT) ... 4
World Eaters (MoK) ... 4

ELDAR
Saim-Hann ... 5+
Dark Eldar ... 5
Exodites ... 10
Harlequins ... 3

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Tallarn ... 6-
Tanith ... 4

NECRONS
Deceiver ... 4
Nightbringer ... 4

ORK KLANZ
Snakebites ... 6

TYRANID HIVE FLEETS
Behemoth ... 6

+2h

Chaos
Thousand Sons (MoT) ... 4
World Eaters (MoK) ... 4

ELDAR
Saim-Hann ... 5
Dark Eldar ... 4--
Exodites ... 10
Harlequins ... 2--

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Tallarn ... 6
Tanith ... 4

NECRONS
Deceiver ... 4
Nightbringer ... 4

ORK KLANZ
Snakebites ... 6

TYRANID HIVE FLEETS
Behemoth ... 6

Chaos
Thousand Sons (MoT) ... 4
World Eaters (MoK) ... 4

ELDAR
Saim-Hann ... 5
Dark Eldar ... 4
Exodites ... 9---
Harlequins ... 2

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Tallarn ... 6
Tanith ... 4

NECRONS
Deceiver ... 4
Nightbringer ... 4

ORK KLANZ
Snakebites ... 7+++

TYRANID HIVE FLEETS
Behemoth ... 6

Chaos
Thousand Sons (MoT) ... 4
World Eaters (MoK) ... 4

ELDAR
Saim-Hann ... 5
Dark Eldar ... 4
Exodites ... 9
Harlequins ... 3 +

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Tallarn ... 6
Tanith ... 4

NECRONS
Deceiver ... 4
Nightbringer ... 4

ORK KLANZ
Snakebites ... 7

TYRANID HIVE FLEETS
Behemoth ... 5 --

and the usual guard barrage every 2 hours...

Chaos
Thousand Sons (MoT) ... 4
World Eaters (MoK) ... 4

ELDAR
Saim-Hann ... 5
Dark Eldar ... 3--
Exodites ... 9
Harlequins ... 2--

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Tallarn ... 6
Tanith ... 4

NECRONS
Deceiver ... 4
Nightbringer ... 4

ORK KLANZ
Snakebites ... 7

TYRANID HIVE FLEETS
Behemoth ... 5

+2h

Chaos
Thousand Sons (MoT) ... 4
World Eaters (MoK) ... 4

ELDAR
Saim-Hann ... 5
Dark Eldar ... 3
Exodites ... 9
Harlequins ... 3 +

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Tallarn ... 6
Tanith ... 4

NECRONS
Deceiver ... 4
Nightbringer ... 4

ORK KLANZ
Snakebites ... 6 --

TYRANID HIVE FLEETS
Behemoth ... 5

@1had: every 2 hours, indeed...

+2h

Chaos
Thousand Sons (MoT) ... 4
World Eaters (MoK) ... 4

ELDAR
Saim-Hann ... 5
Dark Eldar ... 3
Exodites ... 9
Harlequins ... 4 +

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Tallarn ... 6
Tanith ... 4

NECRONS
Deceiver ... 4
Nightbringer ... 4

ORK KLANZ
Snakebites ... 5 --

TYRANID HIVE FLEETS
Behemoth ... 5

Chaos
Thousand Sons (MoT) ... 4
World Eaters (MoK) ... 4

ELDAR
Saim-Hann ... 5
Dark Eldar ... 4+++
Exodites ... 9
Harlequins ... 4

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Tallarn ... 6
Tanith ... 3---

NECRONS
Deceiver ... 4
Nightbringer ... 4

ORK KLANZ
Snakebites ... 5

TYRANID HIVE FLEETS
Behemoth ... 5

Chaos
Thousand Sons (MoT) ... 4
World Eaters (MoK) ... 4

ELDAR
Saim-Hann ... 4---
Dark Eldar ... 4
Exodites ... 8---
Harlequins ... 4

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Tallarn ... 6
Tanith ... 3

NECRONS
Deceiver ... 4
Nightbringer ... 4

ORK KLANZ
Snakebites ... 5

TYRANID HIVE FLEETS
Behemoth ... 5

Chaos
Thousand Sons (MoT) ... 4
World Eaters (MoK) ... 4

ELDAR
Saim-Hann ... 3--
Dark Eldar ... 4
Exodites ... 8
Harlequins ... 3--

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Tallarn ... 6
Tanith ... 3

NECRONS
Deceiver ... 4
Nightbringer ... 4

ORK KLANZ
Snakebites ... 5

TYRANID HIVE FLEETS
Behemoth ... 5

2+hr

Chaos
Thousand Sons (MoT) ... 4
World Eaters (MoK) ... 4

ELDAR
Saim-Hann ... 2----
Dark Eldar ... 5++++
Exodites ... 8
Harlequins ... 3

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Tallarn ... 6
Tanith ... 3

NECRONS
Deceiver ... 4
Nightbringer ... 4

ORK KLANZ
Snakebites ... 5

TYRANID HIVE FLEETS
Behemoth ... 5

+2h

Chaos
Thousand Sons (MoT) ... 4
World Eaters (MoK) ... 4

ELDAR
Saim-Hann ... 1----
Dark Eldar ... 4---
Exodites ... 8
Harlequins ... 3

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Tallarn ... 6
Tanith ... 3

NECRONS
Deceiver ... 4
Nightbringer ... 4

ORK KLANZ
Snakebites ... 5

TYRANID HIVE FLEETS
Behemoth ... 5

Chaos
Thousand Sons (MoT) ... 4
World Eaters (MoK) ... 4

ELDAR
Saim-Hann ... 1
Dark Eldar ... 4
Exodites ... 8
Harlequins ... 3

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Tallarn ... 5-
Tanith ... 2-

NECRONS
Deceiver ... 4
Nightbringer ... 4

ORK KLANZ
Snakebites ... 5

TYRANID HIVE FLEETS
Behemoth ... 5

Chaos
Thousand Sons (MoT) ... 4
World Eaters (MoK) ... 4

ELDAR
Saim-Hann ... 0 ---
Dark Eldar ... 4
Exodites ... 8
Harlequins ... 3

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Tallarn ... 5
Tanith ... 2

NECRONS
Deceiver ... 4
Nightbringer ... 4

ORK KLANZ
Snakebites ... 6 +++

TYRANID HIVE FLEETS
Behemoth ... 5

@Boogie.

Super Survivor Voting Rules

1. You may vote +/-1 for each of 2 *different* choices

2. You may *not* vote again until:
- four (4) other valid votes have been cast, -or-
- two (2) hours have passed without *any* valid votes from anyone (not any posts, any votes).



So:

+2h =>

Chaos
Thousand Sons (MoT) ... 4
World Eaters (MoK) ... 4

ELDAR
Saim-Hann ... 0-- (have to agree here)
Dark Eldar ... 4
Exodites ... 8
Harlequins ... 2--

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Tallarn ... 5
Tanith ... 2

NECRONS
Deceiver ... 4
Nightbringer ... 4

ORK KLANZ
Snakebites ... 5

TYRANID HIVE FLEETS
Behemoth ... 5

@John:
Nice attempt to distract us with "guns"

1hadhq wrote:@Boogie.

Super Survivor Voting Rules
- two (2) hours have passed without *any* valid votes from anyone (not any posts, any votes).

Sorry :( Timezone difference got me confused

+2h

Chaos
Thousand Sons (MoT) ... 4
World Eaters (MoK) ... 4

ELDAR
Dark Eldar ... 4
Exodites ... 8
Harlequins ... 1--

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Tallarn ... 6+
Tanith ... 2

NECRONS
Deceiver ... 4
Nightbringer ... 4

ORK KLANZ
Snakebites ... 5

TYRANID HIVE FLEETS
Behemoth ... 5

Seems John rather motivated the imperial guncrews instead of confusing them...

Chaos
Thousand Sons (MoT) ... 4
World Eaters (MoK) ... 4

ELDAR
Dark Eldar ... 4
Exodites ... 8
Harlequins ... 2 +

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Tallarn ... 6
Tanith ... 1 --

NECRONS
Deceiver ... 4
Nightbringer ... 4

ORK KLANZ
Snakebites ... 5

TYRANID HIVE FLEETS
Behemoth ... 5

we'll see...

Regular 2+ hour attention to prayers

Chaos
Thousand Sons (MoT) ... 4
World Eaters (MoK) ... 4

ELDAR
Dark Eldar ... 3--
Exodites ... 8
Harlequins ... 1---

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Tallarn ... 6
Tanith ... 1

NECRONS
Deceiver ... 4
Nightbringer ... 4

ORK KLANZ
Snakebites ... 5

TYRANID HIVE FLEETS
Behemoth ... 5

2+h

Chaos
Thousand Sons (MoT) ... 4
World Eaters (MoK) ... 4

ELDAR
Dark Eldar ... 3
Exodites ... 8
Harlequins ... 0---

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Tallarn ... 7+
Tanith ... 1

NECRONS
Deceiver ... 4
Nightbringer ... 4

ORK KLANZ
Snakebites ... 5

TYRANID HIVE FLEETS
Behemoth ... 5

+2h

Chaos
Thousand Sons (MoT) ... 4
World Eaters (MoK) ... 4

ELDAR
Dark Eldar ... 3
Exodites ... 9 +

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Tallarn ... 7
Tanith ... 0 --- !!!

NECRONS
Deceiver ... 4
Nightbringer ... 4

ORK KLANZ
Snakebites ... 5

TYRANID HIVE FLEETS
Behemoth ... 5

Now, you wanna call a truce, to deal with the bugs & robots & fungi?

+2h

Chaos
Thousand Sons (MoT) ... 4
World Eaters (MoK) ... 4

ELDAR
Dark Eldar ... 3
Exodites ... 10 +

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Tallarn ... 7

NECRONS
Deceiver ... 4
Nightbringer ... 4

ORK KLANZ
Snakebites ... 5

TYRANID HIVE FLEETS
Behemoth ... 4 --

previous vote lost?
____

Nope, apparently not...

+2h

Chaos
Thousand Sons (MoT) ... 4
World Eaters (MoK) ... 4

ELDAR
Dark Eldar ... 3
Exodites ... 10

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Tallarn ... 7

NECRONS
Deceiver ... 3 --
Nightbringer ... 3 --

ORK KLANZ
Snakebites ... 5

TYRANID HIVE FLEETS
Behemoth ... 4

Chaos
Thousand Sons (MoT) ... 4
World Eaters (MoK) ... 4

ELDAR
Dark Eldar ... 3
Exodites ... 9-

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Tallarn ... 6-

NECRONS
Deceiver ... 3
Nightbringer ... 3

ORK KLANZ
Snakebites ... 5

TYRANID HIVE FLEETS
Behemoth ... 4

+2h

Chaos
Thousand Sons (MoT) ... 4
World Eaters (MoK) ... 4

ELDAR
Dark Eldar ... 3
Exodites ... 9

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Tallarn ... 6

NECRONS
Deceiver ... 2 --
Nightbringer ... 2 --

ORK KLANZ
Snakebites ... 5

TYRANID HIVE FLEETS
Behemoth ... 4

+2h

Chaos
Thousand Sons (MoT) ... 4
World Eaters (MoK) ... 4

ELDAR
Dark Eldar ... 3
Exodites ... 9

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Tallarn ... 6

NECRONS
Deceiver ... 2
Nightbringer ... 2

ORK KLANZ
Snakebites ... 4--

TYRANID HIVE FLEETS
Behemoth ... 3--

isn't it to easy to shoot sleeping Robots,John?
I prefer moving targets...

Chaos
Thousand Sons (MoT) ... 4
World Eaters (MoK) ... 4

ELDAR
Dark Eldar ... 3
Exodites ... 9

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Tallarn ... 5-

NECRONS
Deceiver ... 2
Nightbringer ... 2

ORK KLANZ
Snakebites ... 5+

TYRANID HIVE FLEETS
Behemoth ... 3

Chaos
Thousand Sons (MoT) ... 4
World Eaters (MoK) ... 4

ELDAR
Dark Eldar ... 3
Exodites ... 8---

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Tallarn ... 6+++

NECRONS
Deceiver ... 2
Nightbringer ... 2

ORK KLANZ
Snakebites ... 5

TYRANID HIVE FLEETS
Behemoth ... 3

Chaos
Thousand Sons (MoT) ... 4
World Eaters (MoK) ... 4

ELDAR
Dark Eldar ... 4++++
Exodites ... 8

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Tallarn ... 5---

NECRONS
Deceiver ... 2
Nightbringer ... 2

ORK KLANZ
Snakebites ... 5

TYRANID HIVE FLEETS
Behemoth ... 3

+2h

Chaos
Thousand Sons (MoT) ... 4
World Eaters (MoK) ... 4

ELDAR
Dark Eldar ... 4
Exodites ... 8

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Tallarn ... 6++

NECRONS
Deceiver ... 2
Nightbringer ... 2

ORK KLANZ
Snakebites ... 5

TYRANID HIVE FLEETS
Behemoth ... 2--

Chaos
Thousand Sons (MoT) ... 4
World Eaters (MoK) ... 4

ELDAR
Dark Eldar ... 4
Exodites ... 7 ---

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Tallarn ... 6

NECRONS
Deceiver ... 2
Nightbringer ... 2

ORK KLANZ
Snakebites ... 6 +++

TYRANID HIVE FLEETS
Behemoth ... 2

Chaos
Thousand Sons (MoT) ... 4
World Eaters (MoK) ... 4

ELDAR
Dark Eldar ... 3 ---
Exodites ... 6 ---

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Tallarn ... 6

NECRONS
Deceiver ... 2
Nightbringer ... 2

ORK KLANZ
Snakebites ... 6

TYRANID HIVE FLEETS
Behemoth ... 2

Chaos
Thousand Sons (MoT) ... 4
World Eaters (MoK) ... 4

ELDAR
Dark Eldar ... 3
Exodites ... 5-

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Tallarn ... 5-

NECRONS
Deceiver ... 2
Nightbringer ... 2

ORK KLANZ
Snakebites ... 6

TYRANID HIVE FLEETS
Behemoth ... 2

+2h

and guard reinforcements...

Chaos
Thousand Sons (MoT) ... 4
World Eaters (MoK) ... 4

ELDAR
Dark Eldar ... 3
Exodites ... 5

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Tallarn ... 6+

NECRONS
Deceiver ... 2
Nightbringer ... 2

ORK KLANZ
Snakebites ... 6

TYRANID HIVE FLEETS
Behemoth ... 1--

Chaos
Thousand Sons (MoT) ... 4
World Eaters (MoK) ... 4

ELDAR
Dark Eldar ... 3
Exodites ... 6 +

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Tallarn ... 6

NECRONS
Deceiver ... 2
Nightbringer ... 2

ORK KLANZ
Snakebites ... 6

TYRANID HIVE FLEETS
Behemoth ... 0 --- !!!

Bugkiller!

+2h

Chaos
Thousand Sons (MoT) ... 3--
World Eaters (MoK) ... 4

ELDAR
Dark Eldar ... 3
Exodites ... 6

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Tallarn ... 7+

NECRONS
Deceiver ... 2
Nightbringer ... 2

ORK KLANZ
Snakebites ... 6

Chaos
Thousand Sons (MoT) ... 3
World Eaters (MoK) ... 4

ELDAR
Dark Eldar ... 3
Exodites ... 6

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Tallarn ... 7

NECRONS
Deceiver ... 1 ----
Nightbringer ... 1 ----

ORK KLANZ
Snakebites ... 6

Chaos
Thousand Sons (MoT) ... 3
World Eaters (MoK) ... 4

ELDAR
Dark Eldar ... 3
Exodites ... 6

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Tallarn ... 6 ---

NECRONS
Deceiver ... 2
Nightbringer ... 2

ORK KLANZ
Snakebites ... 7 +++

+2h

Chaos
Thousand Sons (MoT) ... 2--
World Eaters (MoK) ... 4

ELDAR
Dark Eldar ... 3
Exodites ... 6

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Tallarn ... 7++

NECRONS
Deceiver ... 2
Nightbringer ... 2

ORK KLANZ
Snakebites ... 7

Chaos
Thousand Sons (MoT) ... 2
World Eaters (MoK) ... 4

ELDAR
Dark Eldar ... 3
Exodites ... 6

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Tallarn ... 7

NECRONS
Deceiver ... [0] --- !!!
Nightbringer ... [0] --- !!!

ORK KLANZ
Snakebites ... 7

[ you guys skipped the Necron votes... I fix and finish off robots ]

Chaos
Thousand Sons (MoT) ... 1-
World Eaters (MoK) ... 4

ELDAR
Dark Eldar ... 3
Exodites ... 5-

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Tallarn ... 7

ORK KLANZ
Snakebites ... 7

Chaos
Thousand Sons (MoT) ... 0-
World Eaters (MoK) ... 4

ELDAR
Dark Eldar ... 3
Exodites ... 5

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Tallarn ... 6-

ORK KLANZ
Snakebites ... 7

Chaos
World Eaters (MoK) ... 3--

ELDAR
Dark Eldar ... 3
Exodites ... 5

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Tallarn ... 5--

ORK KLANZ
Snakebites ... 7

Chaos
World Eaters (MoK) ... 4 ++++

ELDAR
Dark Eldar ... 2 ----
Exodites ... 5

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Tallarn ... 5

ORK KLANZ
Snakebites ... 7

CHAOS
World Eaters (MoK) ... 3-

ELDAR
Dark Eldar ... 3 +
Exodites ... 5

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Tallarn ... 5

ORK KLANZ
Snakebites ... 7

CHAOS
World Eaters (MoK) ... 3

ELDAR
Dark Eldar ... 3
Exodites ... 5

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Tallarn ... 6++

ORK KLANZ
Snakebites ... 6--

CHAOS
World Eaters (MoK) ... 3

ELDAR
Dark Eldar ... 3
Exodites ... 6 ++

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Tallarn ... 6

ORK KLANZ
Snakebites ... 5 --

CHAOS
World Eaters (MoK) ... 2--

ELDAR
Dark Eldar ... 3
Exodites ... 6

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Tallarn ... 5--

ORK KLANZ
Snakebites ... 5

CHAOS
World Eaters (MoK) ... 1---

ELDAR
Dark Eldar ... 3
Exodites ... 6

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Tallarn ... 6+++

ORK KLANZ
Snakebites ... 5

CHAOS
World Eaters (MoK) ... 0---

ELDAR
Dark Eldar ... 4+++
Exodites ... 6

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Tallarn ... 6

ORK KLANZ
Snakebites ... 5

ELDAR
Dark Eldar ... 4
Exodites ... 6

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Tallarn ... 7++

ORK KLANZ
Snakebites ... 4--

Aaand chaos is out!

ELDAR
Dark Eldar ... 4
Exodites ... 6

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Tallarn ... 6 ---

ORK KLANZ
Snakebites ... 5 +++

ELDAR
Dark Eldar ... 4
Exodites ... 6

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Tallarn ... 5 ---

ORK KLANZ
Snakebites ... 4--

ELDAR
Dark Eldar ... 4
Exodites ... 5-

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Tallarn ... 4-

ORK KLANZ
Snakebites ... 4

If any team is meant to fall, let them fall equally

ELDAR
Dark Eldar ... 4
Exodites ... 6 +

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Tallarn ... 4

ORK KLANZ
Snakebites ... 3 --

ELDAR
Dark Eldar ... 4
Exodites ... 6

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Tallarn ... 5++

ORK KLANZ
Snakebites ... 2 --


@the_ferret: yep, death is the great equalizer.

ELDAR
Dark Eldar ... 4
Exodites ... 5---

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Tallarn ... 6++

ORK KLANZ
Snakebites ... 2

@the_ferret: yep, death is the great equalizer.

I beg to differ, good sir! A loyalist is clearly more superior to an filthy xenos, even in death.

Emperors Faithful wrote:


I beg to differ, good sir! A loyalist is clearly more superior to an filthy xenos, even in death.

I think heaps of death xenos scum equalize some guardsmen?

Is the actual pile too low?

We may change this then...

after a +2hours speech of commissar EF:

*in His name, charge!*

ELDAR
Dark Eldar ... 4
Exodites ... 5

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Tallarn ... 7++

ORK KLANZ
Snakebites ... 1--

ELDAR
Dark Eldar ... 4
Exodites ... 4-

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Tallarn ... 6-

ORK KLANZ
Snakebites ... 1

Not on your life Bubsy!

ELDAR
Dark Eldar ... 4
Exodites ... 4

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Tallarn ... 5--

ORK KLANZ
Snakebites ... 0---

ELDAR
Dark Eldar ... 3 ----
Exodites ... 3 ----

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Tallarn ... 5

after
+2hours
of flight...
brace for impact.

ELDAR
Dark Eldar ... 2 ----
Exodites ... 2 ----

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Tallarn ... 5

ELDAR
Dark Eldar ... 2
Exodites ... 3 +

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Tallarn ... 4 --

ELDAR
Dark Eldar ... 2
Exodites ... 4+

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Tallarn ... 3--

+2 Hrs

ELDAR
Dark Eldar ... 2
Exodites ... 5+

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Tallarn ... 2--

Hi there, I'm focusedfire, nice to meet you.

focusedfire wrote:Hi there, I'm focusedfire, nice to meet you.

Hi there, i do believe you're able to figure out my name, and I see your still a puppet on the strings of your Eldar master.

ELDAR
Dark Eldar ... 1 ----
Exodites ... 5

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Tallarn ... 3 +++

ELDAR
Dark Eldar ... 2+
Exodites ... 5

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Tallarn ..2-

+2hrs

ELDAR
Dark Eldar ... 1 ----
Exodites ... 5

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Tallarn ... 3 +++

ELDAR
Dark Eldar ... 1
Exodites ... 6 ++

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Tallarn ... 2 --

ELDAR
Dark Eldar ... 0--
Exodites ... 6

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Tallarn ... 3+

ELDAR
Exodites ... 7+

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Tallarn ... 2--

+2hrs

ELDAR
Exodites ... 6 ---

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Tallarn ... 3 ++

ELDAR
Exodites ... 6 +++

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Tallarn ... 2 ---

ELDAR
Exodites ... 5-

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Tallarn ... 1 -

+2 Hrs

ELDAR
Exodites ... 6+

IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS
Tallarn ... 0--


Game, Set, Match........Eldar

We, the people of the United Anti-Xenos Party, demand a recount! lol

edit: delayed double post

And we, the members of the united anti-xenos party also expect said xenos to admit:

1) there are 3 options for the inhabitants of GW's WH 40k universe:

A) you're a Black Templar space marine , therefore awesome, therefore able to hack and slay your way to victory, undisputed and final.
(as provided by supersurvivor part 1 )
Conclusion = the Holy god-emperor protects and mankinds fate as rightful rulers of the Galaxy cant be denied!

B) you're a cowardly space elf and hide on a backwater world until everyone else is dead.
( as provided by supersurvivor part 2 )
Conclusion = too many xenos are easily betrayed and sold off by the tricky eldar, don't fall for their lies and purge them all!

c) you're an filthy xenos scum and should not soil the emperor's Galaxy. Stop with that futile resistance and accept your doom.
( as provided by supersurvivor part 1 and 2 )
Conclusion = No matter how hard they try, no-one escapes the IoM's wrath.

2) thanks for playing. But next time bring your friends too.

3) Since youre not an exiled eldar or a awesome black space marine, you don't need a new codex anywhere before 2020..
cause black space marines just need some spotlight on a cover/a campaign/a codex and the exiled eldar not even that and still
win against your bunch of filthy xenos scum

A non-Codex army wins Super Survivor 2!



Top 3 placing:
1. Eldar Exodites
2. Tallarn Imperial Guard
3. Dark Eldar

I approve of this result!

Clearly, the Eldar are mysterious types.

In a few days, I'm thinking to kick off Super Survivor 3.

We got down to an endgame of 1s & 2s with:
- 2 Chaos
- 2 Eldar
- 2 Guard
- 2 Necrons
- 1 Orks
- 1 Nids
That's a pretty nice result.

I'm thinking that there's not a lot of change needed to the entries, but wonder what others think.

JohnHwangDD wrote:In a few days, I'm thinking to kick off Super Survivor 3.



I'm thinking that there's not a lot of change needed to the entries, but wonder what others think.

Maybe we should have a balanced set of entries?

N°2 got a lot of xenos attention. Could hint on the pre-set intended outcome.....

I'll go with a happy OP once , but do not assume I'll singlehandedly face off against the xenos menace everytime.
Would welcome raised interest, and thus a 3rd SS thread may benefit from: either different theme or simply more common choices.
Most voters seem to stick with 1-2 armies and the lack of one or both may keep them uninterested, which is bad as a survivorthread
needs a lot of +4voters posts instead of dozens of +2hours posts.

Define "balanced".

If you go back to pg.1, SS2 had:
- 7 Chaos
- 8 Eldar
- 10 Guard
- 4 Inquisition
- 2 Necrons
- 6 Orks
- 5 Marines
- 3 Tau
- 3 Tyranid

Imperials (IG, Inq, SM) are 19 total against 22 Xenos (Eldar, Nec, Ork, Tau, Nid), excluding Chaos.

"40k armies" had 11 Imperials (mostly SM) vs 6 Xenos and 4 Chaos. Xenos were vastly underrepresented there.


Super Survivor simply adds well-known Xenos to balance against the sheer volume of Imperials in previous large Survivor games. And, given that Guard pulled 2nd place, that's not so bad.


Interest isn't something I can control, tho I'd like to see more players, too. My choices date back to 2E, when GW pushed more variety out. Certainly, not having any Survivor games at all for months kinda pulled interest and activity down... Anyhow, I'll kick off SS3, and see if that helps breathe some life back in.

JohnHwangDD wrote:Define "balanced".

Imperials (IG, Inq, SM) are 19 total against 22 Xenos (Eldar, Nec, Ork, Tau, Nid), excluding Chaos.

"40k armies" had 11 Imperials (mostly SM) vs 6 Xenos and 4 Chaos. Xenos were vastly underrepresented there.

Super Survivor simply adds well-known Xenos to balance against the sheer volume of Imperials in previous large Survivor games. And, given that Guard pulled 2nd place, that's not so bad.

1) SM and CSM should balance well, you know 9 vs 9
2) 4 inq ordos? a bit overrepresented. rather inq vs demons, so 1-2 =I= max.
3) IG doesnt need so many entires, but maybe their role as 'tarpit' to catch the anti-imperial hate worked well in SS2.
4) its 19 vs 26 in SS2. Don't exclude chaos.
5) necrons and nids were just fillers in SS2. Really 'fighting' were only DE,orks,Tau,eldar. Inq hid until it was too late.
6) IIRC, the OP of SS2 did vote down several entries to 9 before anyone deemed it worth posting. Maybe 45 are too much?
7) was a bit lonely in SS2. Now imagine your thread without the few Imperials. Still claiming balance?

Having a codexless winner was fun.

I'll wait to see the entries of SS3, can't guarantee I am in.

1. Super Survivor isn't SM-centric. If you want to do a SM vs CSM Horus Heresy Survivor, go for it!

2. I disagree.

3. IG should, by Fluff, be the largest Imperial force of all. This did well.

4. Chaos aren't Xenos. From a Xenos perspective it's 26 humans vs 22 Xenos. No change warranted here. If anything, you're showing I need to add more Xenos...

5. I can add Dragon and another HF, along with Pesh (Kroot)

6. If you check the first post, you'll see that the OP took his initial vote as part of the first post, which is standard practice for Survivor, as it saves a post.

7. If you don't want to play, you'll just have to watch your precious Imperials get slaughtered by merciless Xenos.

And based on outcomes, yeah, I think this was reasonably balanced, aside from being short on Tau, Nids, & Necrons.

Maybe next time, you can recruit some more players?

Can't wait for the next game. I think you should triple each of the Tyranid fleets to give a bit more realism to the list.

Tau were fine

Necron armies could have been doubled, quadrupled if you included a phase out rule when they drop to 2

Will see you next game.

@FF: thanks for comments.

Maybe I'll just add a couple more Hive Fleets, or "splinters". Have to check on this a bit.

For Necrons, they merely Feel No Pain in Super Survivor.

JohnHwangDD wrote:1. Super Survivor isn't SM-centric. If you want to do a SM vs CSM Horus Heresy Survivor, go for it!

2. I disagree.

3. IG should, by Fluff, be the largest Imperial force of all. This did well.

4. Chaos aren't Xenos. From a Xenos perspective it's 26 humans vs 22 Xenos. No change warranted here. If anything, you're showing I need to add more Xenos...

5. I can add Dragon and another HF, along with Pesh (Kroot)

6. If you check the first post, you'll see that the OP took his initial vote as part of the first post, which is standard practice for Survivor, as it saves a post.

7. If you don't want to play, you'll just have to watch your precious Imperials get slaughtered by merciless Xenos.

And based on outcomes, yeah, I think this was reasonably balanced, aside from being short on Tau, Nids, & Necrons.

Maybe next time, you can recruit some more players?

1) Didn't suggest SM centric. But I have to insist to accept SM / CSM as commonly known opposites. Youre not escaping so cheaply.
If you feel there is too much Imperials, why not add more chaos?

2) Why?

3) this we can agree.

4) So chaos is now Imperium, as per JWDD ??
Necrons could be robots, not xenos, too...
As stated before: add as many xenos you as need to have the desired outcome. We, the loyal righteous forces of the IoM, know
our fluff and have to just wait cause the BRB is on our side, as per page 116.

5) Necron won't need more entries, if mr JWDD could refrain from killing them....
Maybe 4 C'tan and 4 hivefleets.

6) First post? IIRC our beloved OP did vote nearly alone at the first days of SS2. Again, please keep the SS threads under 50 entries.

7) My precious Imperials? Only mine? Just ask and I keep silence.
May also ask any other Imperialist to stay out, so those merciless evil xenos can slaughter
poor unarmed weak undefended civilians, as this is their only chance of victory. /
Try again John.

8) May I suggest to ensure victory with a simple change? xenos entries, only.
You know, orks and nids should outnumber almost everything, so this needs dozens of orkses and bugs. And the unknown size
of the sleeping necrons forces, maybe also a dozen? Plus the endless swarm of demons.....

1. 5 SM v 5 CSM is "balance", as you define it. I guess if you need this kind of balance, I can add more Chaos stuff to balance off the Guard & Inqusition.

2. I like more Ordos, and at a minimum we have Malleus & Hereticus. Assassins play a major role since 2E, while Xenos is well-known. 4 Inquisition entries.

4. Chaos isn't Xenos.

6. If a SS thread needs post-bumping, I'm happy to do it. No complains. No worse that ff's movie SS, which you aren't playing, BTW. Go ahead and count the movies. I won't worry it.

7. I don't know what your whining about. Imperials had a very fair shot, and took second place. If you don't want to play, that's your business.

8. If you want to resurrect Codices or the SM-centric "40k armies", go ahead and do so.

Thanks for your input. At this point, I think I'm done with feedback for SS3, and will launch it today or tomorrow. Keep your eyes open...

@1hadhq- Why the hate on John. He created a very fair list so don't blame him that your precious SM's got boned. He wasn't the primary cause of the Five codex chapters being destroyed.

That's because I was the one that worked to make sure that they didn't survive. So if your going to blame anyone then Blame Me and blame yourself.

It is the prevailing SM-centrist attitude of many within this hobby that has given me a burning need to tease/annoy SM's players that, most probably, rivals your distaste for the Xenos armies. Maybe if some of these individuals weren't so emotionally invested in their SM's I wouldn't feel the need to needle them. There would be no point if I can't a reaction.

I can also say that by the current reaction that John could double the number of SM's and I will make it my mission to make sure that the SM's don't place in the Top 3.

focusedfire wrote:@1hadhq- Why the hate on John. He created a very fair list so don't blame him that your precious SM's got boned. He wasn't the primary cause of the Five codex chapters being destroyed.

That's because I was the one that worked to make sure that they didn't survive. So if your going to blame anyone then Blame Me and blame yourself.

It is the prevailing SM-centrist attitude of many within this hobby that has given me a burning need to tease/annoy SM's players that, most probably, rivals your distaste for the Xenos armies. Maybe if some of these individuals weren't so emotionally invested in their SM's I wouldn't feel the need to needle them. There would be no point if I can't a reaction.

I can also say that by the current reaction that John could double the number of SM's and I will make it my mission to make sure that the SM's don't place in the Top 3.

I dont hate John.
May attempt to put constructive critics in ( failed there? , I dont know ), so enlighten me where it was too harsh and I
try to improve it.


But the entries of ss2 were on their course of an Eldar win from the start. Tell me otherwise, but remember I am not blind to
the favourite choices of my fellow posters.

Should i "hate" FF? I blame you to grab the thread and attempt to steer it down the drain with "timed" 2 hours votes.
Maybe I dont get my point across? Let me try again. Multiple voters and +4 votes add a lot of variety and personal difference to the
outcome. Multiple +2 h votes from a few voters had moved the outcome to a trap shooting event, where some armys suffered
without any hope ( examples: necrons, tyranids, ..) of survival. Would imagine some armies gone down too fast, so any possible
supporter missed his personal choice and didn't enter.

As john seems willing to throw in craptons of xenos, 0 SM entry's could reduce the amount of choices to a managable number.
I couldn't offer more than to stay out ( but then you could also put none of the IoM's armies in ) so feel free to make sure
no unbeliever of your precious 'greater food' is in the top 5.

It seems youre overestimating my interest in 'winning' a Supersurvivor thread. I'll support a faction of the 40kverse I prefer,
and I may retaliate if one is failing to resist his unfounded SM hate. I am all for fluffy comments. So keep them coming.

And for the record: did agree midgame to sacrifice the guard to keep his space elfs alive. Worked. So the evil SM player isn't
unhappy with a xenos choice

PS: Still waiting for the xenos fanbase to admit the awesomeness of SM ( lots of codices ) and hidden exiled eldar ( no codex ).

Guys:

I think it's clear that no survivor is going to please everybody completely. I'm OK with that. I don't think that 1had is a bad person for wanting the deck heavily-stacked in favor of his SMs so that it becomes a formality that they win.

I do think that a wider variety is nice. I think the balance isn't unreasonable, and will tweak by a little for SS3.

I think the "core" balance is OK:
5 SM + DH
5 CSM + Daemons
5 CWE + DE
6 Orks

9+1 IG & 3 Inq are a huge bump against Exos, LatD, & Harlies...

Yes, the deck was stacked a little against Tau, Necrons, & Nids. Tau are a small empire. Necrons are still awakening. Nids simply shouldn't win.


The accusation that this was stacked toward an Eldar win is patently false, given that IG alone outnumber all Eldar combined.

How people voted, that's completely separate from the game structure. FF wanted to kill MEQs, and I wasn't going to protect them, as I was far too busy steering things to a "flatter" endgame, with IG & Eldar in the Top 3. As far as I'm concerned, I succeeded. If I could have also gotten CSM to 3rd, it would have a perfect Trifecta for my gameplay.

The +2h thing is a carryover from other Survivor games, and will not be faulted. It wasn't a problem before, and it won't be a problem here. If you want to create another Survivor game with a different set of voting rules, go for it!

The accusation that Necrons & Nids had no hope is also patently false. Necrons and Nids *both* made it to the endgame when things got to 1s and 2s. If there were active Necron or Nid players, they'd have had a strong chance. As far as endgame goes, I think this was quite good.

And I think I said it was awesome that Exodites won. Not having a Codex makes it more awesome than a DE win. Of course, SS3 will add Squats, so we'll see how that shakes things up...

@1had: I really think that you ought to resurrect "40k armies" , as that's what you appear to want.