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[Kickstarter] MYTH Journeyman - News, Rumors, Updates! @ 2016/11/16 01:15:16


Post by: yamato


One piece of neat news is that down the road (2018 I think) Myth: Battles campaign will kick off.

It is described as a table top war game utilizing these monster and human factions with added unit types (e.g. arm a unit of Orcs with heavy armor, or ranged weapons, etc.). Very little details so far; just a blurb in the latest news video; but it might eventually give you a reason to paint some of these


[Kickstarter] MYTH Journeyman - News, Rumors, Updates! @ 2016/11/16 01:21:54


Post by: Alpharius


As well as the hint of MYTH: Master (or whatever it was actually called) - can't wait for that one too!


[Kickstarter] MYTH Journeyman - News, Rumors, Updates! @ 2016/11/16 09:25:32


Post by: PsychoticStorm


Never heard of Myth: master what is that?


[Kickstarter] MYTH Journeyman - News, Rumors, Updates! @ 2016/11/16 09:58:39


Post by: MangoMadness


 Alpharius wrote:
I got my two expansions in as well but...I'm waiting for the rest of the stuff to arrive before diving into everything here.


There is more to come after this lot? I was hoping this would be it so i can walk away


[Kickstarter] MYTH Journeyman - News, Rumors, Updates! @ 2016/11/16 15:12:17


Post by: highlord tamburlaine


They showed off some of the artwork for the Acolyte class progression ages ago.

Think it went all the way to Legend if I recall correctly, but I believe they also said some of the later classes would be consolidated into one larger release of cards/ figures and less new monster types.

Considering how many monster races and bosses we'll have available by the end of Journeyman shipping, I'd say there's already a fair amount of variety in place then.


[Kickstarter] MYTH Journeyman - News, Rumors, Updates! @ 2016/11/16 15:15:42


Post by: Alpharius


PsychoticStorm wrote:Never heard of Myth: master what is that?


It will be the third game in the series: Myth (Novice?), Myth: Journeyman and then Myth: Master.

Bringing all the character types up to their Ultimate Forms.

All will eventually be, yes, over 9000.

MangoMadness wrote:
 Alpharius wrote:
I got my two expansions in as well but...I'm waiting for the rest of the stuff to arrive before diving into everything here.


There is more to come after this lot? I was hoping this would be it so i can walk away


There's all the modules and various stretch goals and add-ons...


[Kickstarter] MYTH Journeyman - News, Rumors, Updates! @ 2016/11/18 02:58:31


Post by: MangoMadness


received the 2 boxes today, so disappointed, i thought this KS was going to be over and now we have to wait for all the rest of the crap. I just want it to be over :(


[Kickstarter] MYTH Journeyman - News, Rumors, Updates! @ 2016/11/18 08:30:24


Post by: PsychoticStorm


I really hope the modules will not be in useless pizza boxes like the recon ones.


[Kickstarter] MYTH Journeyman - News, Rumors, Updates! @ 2016/11/18 13:33:10


Post by: Bioptic


 PsychoticStorm wrote:
I really hope the modules will not be in useless pizza boxes like the recon ones.


Too nice to just throw away, not nice enough to be happy about them, small enough that assembled models don't always fit nicely inside, large enough that they'll consume all of your shelf space!

Did anyone come up with a good solution for those?


[Kickstarter] MYTH Journeyman - News, Rumors, Updates! @ 2016/11/18 22:12:12


Post by: PsychoticStorm


Threw them on the recycle and threw everything on a spare standard sized boardgame box.

As with most of this campaign another wasted opportunity.

The modules could be a proper box with some fluff in the back making them an ideal box to carry the mercs of the boxes logo, it would also be something that would stand out on the self of a boardgame/ wargame store, instead they went for the cheap option of this pizza style box that is all the above you said and eats up too much space on the self of any store.

But what amazes me is they did not put any effort to write some fluff on the back to intrigue someone to buy it.


[Kickstarter] MYTH Journeyman - News, Rumors, Updates! @ 2017/04/24 14:39:29


Post by: Alpharius


Er...OK?

Update #155

Apr 24 2017

Not Fogotten

We understand it is getting bad out there in forumland and our silence isn't helping. We know you are frustrated by the lack of information coming from us, but I can't answer any questions you have at the moment. We are under an NDA on Myth and have been for many months.


Sounds like...maybe bad news?

Under an NDA?!?

WTF?!?

So, from the comments section:

MERCS Miniatures 7-time creator 43 minutes ago

@predator I meant, that I wouldn't have teased you with a bad-news appetizer. It makes no sense to kick a hornet's nest then share the bigger bad news in a few weeks.


So...maybe MEGACON has been or is about to be purchased?

Who knows...

I've always liked MYTH, but I've always wanted to like MYTH, and Megacon, more - but then they always manage to make that...not something that's easy to do?



[Kickstarter] MYTH Journeyman - News, Rumors, Updates! @ 2017/04/24 14:47:47


Post by: DaveC


How can you have an NDA like this when you own the game and it isn't a licensed product - makes no sense to me. No update would have been better than this! Unfortunately this is par for the course with Megacon. Forumland complaining I haven't seen anything of note and this thread is very quiet but they've just opened a can of worms


[Kickstarter] MYTH Journeyman - News, Rumors, Updates! @ 2017/04/24 15:14:59


Post by: highlord tamburlaine


I find it amusing how a handful of words out of their mouths lets the crazies out of the closet.

I'd been wondering about their radio silence too.

My guess is if they have an NDA that they're looking into getting bought out.

Wonder if they'll stay on as develops. Question is, who would buy the IP?

For some reason my mind is leaning towards a company like Cryptozoic or IDW.

Or I could be totally wrong and reading too deep into things.


[Kickstarter] MYTH Journeyman - News, Rumors, Updates! @ 2017/04/24 16:00:10


Post by: Alpharius


We're still owed a LOT of stuff here.

I hope it all still delivers...


[Kickstarter] MYTH Journeyman - News, Rumors, Updates! @ 2017/04/26 05:16:49


Post by: JoshInJapan


Is there more stuff? I ended up just dropping to the two expansions with no add ons. I haven't opened them. In fact, apart from one session under the v1 rules, I haven't done anything with the game. It's a shame, I'm sure there are some good times hidden in there, but it would take a regular commitment with a regular gaming group to dig it out.


[Kickstarter] MYTH Journeyman - News, Rumors, Updates! @ 2017/04/26 14:38:34


Post by: Alpharius


 JoshInJapan wrote:
Is there more stuff? I ended up just dropping to the two expansions with no add ons. I haven't opened them. In fact, apart from one session under the v1 rules, I haven't done anything with the game. It's a shame, I'm sure there are some good times hidden in there, but it would take a regular commitment with a regular gaming group to dig it out.


You're maybe missing out of some stretch goals too, but other than that, maybe nothing major?

I, of course, went 'all in' on the modules and as such am owed...quite a bit.

It was a very odd announcement to make, and without a follow up, not good.

You know how it is - in the absence of information, you will get speculation...


[Kickstarter] MYTH Journeyman - News, Rumors, Updates! @ 2017/04/26 17:56:42


Post by: BobtheInquisitor


 DaveC wrote:
How can you have an NDA like this when you own the game and it isn't a licensed product - makes no sense to me. No update would have been better than this! Unfortunately this is par for the course with Megacon. Forumland complaining I haven't seen anything of note and this thread is very quiet but they've just opened a can of worms


If I have learned anything from reading hard-boiled detective fiction, it is that this most likely indicates one of the co-owners was sleeping with the other co-owner's wife, who was planning to frame him for a murder made to look like a suicide. This update was likely an attempt to shake up the players and see who moves on the investigators with goons and car bombs.


[Kickstarter] MYTH Journeyman - News, Rumors, Updates! @ 2017/04/26 18:57:44


Post by: Siygess


Yeah, a partnership / acquisition was my first thought too, and perhaps the terms are such that they will help turn around the rest of the pledge items and ensure the future of Myth related games.. a deal that will keep the Empire out of here forever.

Asmodee perhaps?


[Kickstarter] MYTH Journeyman - News, Rumors, Updates! @ 2017/04/26 23:59:54


Post by: Ahtman


 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
If I have learned anything from reading hard-boiled detective fiction, it is that this most likely indicates one of the co-owners was sleeping with the other co-owner's wife, who was planning to frame him for a murder made to look like a suicide. This update was likely an attempt to shake up the players and see who moves on the investigators with goons and car bombs.


This is the only reasonable possibility.

I thought these were released a bit ago so why are people still waiting on things? I'm pretty sure they had them at GenCon last year. I backed the original Myth and Recon but spaced out about the Journeyman KS and missed it but it kind of sounds like that might not be a bad thing atm.


[Kickstarter] MYTH Journeyman - News, Rumors, Updates! @ 2017/04/28 06:11:19


Post by: ced1106


 DaveC wrote:
How can you have an NDA like this when you own the game and it isn't a licensed product - makes no sense to me.


If it's a bigger company licensing, buying out, or whatever MCG, then it's MCG following the terms of the NDA that the bigger company set for them. In this case, ownership of the IP has nothing to do with it.

This is not (likely to be) something like, say, MCG having a playtester sign an NDA to test some alpha rules.

As for silence, that's your preference. Some backers were upset that they haven't heard from MCG for quite awhile. https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/1768613/mcg-silence-what-practically-can-we-do-now


[Kickstarter] MYTH Journeyman - News, Rumors, Updates! @ 2017/05/12 01:53:19


Post by: Siygess


So.. with my X Wing campaign wrapping up at my club and an interest in a coop dungeon crawler at an all time high, I thought I would dig out my Myth stuff and try to get some use out of it. The 2.0 rulebook is definitely an improvement, enough that I finally grasped what all of the components were for. Unfortunately I realised two things;

1) I don't have the updated hero cards for the Spriggan, Trickster or Skald. Were these supposed to be in the 2.0 printed materials shipment? Similarly were the other unlocked mini bosses etc supposed to be getting new cards too?
2) I didn't pledge for the Journeyman versions of the three characters above (Though if we never see a second wave that could be irrelevant). Doh :(

..also, what were MCG thinking when they updated 95% of their cards but declined to add a "2.0" in the corner so the new ones were easily distinguishable from the old? Madness!



[Kickstarter] MYTH Journeyman - News, Rumors, Updates! @ 2017/05/22 14:54:53


Post by: Alpharius


Hmmm...

Update #156

May 22 2017

Myth Update

26 Comments

We can pull back the curtain a little more.

The Myth property is being purchased. When the contracts are finalized we will answer all your questions (including replacement questions). This has been an extremely long process. It still isn't finished, but it is very close. We still have to be careful with the NDA because the whole thing could collapse. When the contracts are all signed, expect an extremely long update. I'll tell you the whole story.

All the remaining material in JM will be delivered in one more wave. Please hear my sincerity. It is extremely important to us to get you the rest of your product. When everything is finalized, we can go back to show and tell updates. We've been wanting to show you all the stuff we've got done and soon we will be able to.

Last Friday, Keith submitted the most recent batch of Myth JM from the PM to the shippers. This will be the last one downloaded and submitted until the final wave is shipped.


I wonder who it is?

I hope they 'continue the line' and use the same or a similar art and miniature style too...



[Kickstarter] MYTH Journeyman - News, Rumors, Updates! @ 2017/05/22 15:50:24


Post by: BobtheInquisitor


But MERCS is still Megacon's property, right?


[Kickstarter] MYTH Journeyman - News, Rumors, Updates! @ 2017/05/22 15:58:35


Post by: Alpharius


No idea.

Maybe?

They kinda f'd that one up with the RECON KS, so maybe it is 'damaged goods'/not included in the sale/who knows...?


[Kickstarter] MYTH Journeyman - News, Rumors, Updates! @ 2017/05/22 16:09:06


Post by: BobtheInquisitor


Hmmm..... On the one hand, I don't want the MERCS 2 plastics to disappear from sales before I get a chance to buy the ones I want. On the other hand, Miniature Market Black Friday Clearance Blowout. Hmmm....


[Kickstarter] MYTH Journeyman - News, Rumors, Updates! @ 2017/07/31 19:53:46


Post by: Alpharius


Some...interesting news here:

Update #157

Jul 31 2017

NDA News and Production Samples

We appreciate the patience most of you have shown. I can say more now, so I will.

We started this process almost a year ago. I sent emails out to those people in the industry that we respected, could afford our properties, and we would fit into as a studio. In the email, I explained we didn't want to be publishers any more:

We started MegaCon Games 8 years ago under the name MERCS Miniatures. There are three of us. In that time, we’ve had our share of successes and setbacks. We are reaching the completion of our active and last Kickstarters. We have plans for several more games, including expansions to existing properties, but we've decided we don’t want to be a game publisher any more. We're pretty far from what we truly wanted to do, which was design games. Publishing has made us smarter game designers, but there are things we don't have the bandwidth or the skill to do effectively: marketing, community, logistics.

We are looking to become a design group for a larger game publisher and/or sell off some of our IPs. The pressure of performing all the jobs is too much. You know what is required to run a hobby game business. We cover all the jobs: warehousing, distribution, finance, marketing, logistics, customer support, art, game design, and game testing. We cannot continue as we are; we are dying a slow death.

There is more to the email, but it is focused on each of the potential publishers so I cannot share any more details.

One of the reasons we can be so patient is we do not intend to ever publish another game again. So this option is the only option for fans of the Myth property. You would never see another Myth game if we didn't get this right. No Myth Master. No Myth Battles. No more modules. No Myth 2.0 box in retail. No rpg. No Myth Legendary. No Myth Adventurers toolkit. It would stop. So we can take some heat in the comments and a bad Facebook review or 10, because we understand this is the only way forward. If the deal fails, we are done.

We agree with you. We design cool games. We suck at the business part. The communication part. We see the changes in what a backer expects out of Kickstarter. We are not CMON. We do not have half the game produced before we even launch the KS campaign. We have to do 90% of the work required after the KS closes. As much as our games look like they come from a team of 20, they come from a team of 3.

So, I sent that email out and we had a lot of interest. I went out to GAMA in March and met with everyone. All of those meetings required an NDA. I can't talk about the who and what we spoke about. But, I left those meetings with real offers.

Over the course of the next few months, we reduced the three or four real offers down to one. Since that time we've been working to get this thing taken care of. At times during the negotiation, it appeared as though it might fall apart. Even now we don't have a final, definitive yes. Both of us, we the seller and they the buyer, are waiting on a third party to give us the go ahead. We are waiting for a yes or a no. It could come this week or next.

In the meantime, we've continued to finalize all the elements of the Journeyman KS. Some of you have expressed resentment toward the Emergence Event and Dark Frontier KS, because they are being completed before the JM stuff. We can appreciate this perception. They were easier to finalize and get off our plates in terms of production and shipping.

For some perspective, the EE expansion is the equivalent of 1 JM module. In design. In production prep. In cost. It took 6-8 months to produce. Journeyman has 11 modules. It takes a lot of time to finalize and produce these elements.

While this was going on, we were in negotiation to sell Myth and become a design studio. We are still under an NDA, but there is a mutual understanding of trying soothe the JM backers because you see some of our other KSers finishing.

Some of the events that have happened are under NDA and may never be revealed. Other information you are looking for I simply don't have yet. I do not have a shipment date for the last wave. We aren't even finished with production. So much of what you all our asking I can't answer because of the NDA or because of we don't have that information yet. With all that said, I can address some questions:

-Replacements? We are not sending out any replacements until we have produced and paid for all the production and fulfillment shipping. Shipping replacements is expensive and we cannot afford to dip into the production money until we have paid all that is due.

Some might push back and say it should come out of our salary. First off, we don't make a salary. We take draws based off of profit. And we haven't had any form of payment from game publishing for 14 months now. We saw the writing on the wall coming last summer. It is one of the reasons we made so many changes to overhead. It also spurred the conversations about our future.

Not only have we poured our heart and soul into our games, we have poured our own financial security and that of our families into this business. We are invested and the only way that investment will ever pay out is if we deliver the last wave of this KS to you and can sell the property. If we don't deliver the last wave, the property has little to no real value and as I said, we are done with publishing and KSers.

-Pledge Manager? The pledge manager will open again so you can update shipping addresses, but it is a waste of time to open it up without a final production and shipping date.

There is a lot more to say and address when the NDA goes away.

Production Samples

With all that said, we do have picture of some production samples. I've been holding on to a lot of update content so we have plenty of stuff to show if and when this deal finishes. These pictures are a bit old, but represent things you have never seen.

The final wave will look something like this.



There will be some elements that are different if you only got a few modules or didn't get the JM LE hard cover, but the vast majority of you will be getting something like this. The larger box houses all the stretch goals. The smaller box houses the add-on modules. I'll give you a look at the contents in a minute. The hard cover LE book is accurate in terms of size and type of treatments. The color is slightly different (the front is a bit too yellow).

These are the final, approved samples. It has taken months of back and forth to get to these.

The LE book will have a de-emboss that looks like this.



The cover is made from a faux-leather with a replicated burned de-emboss. The pages have gilding. Here is an image of the actual material color and what the de-emboss treatment looks like on that material.



We are very proud of this final book. It contains a lot of history and lore. All the rules in one place, restructured to be together, single-player rules, a single-player module, and bestiary. I'll talk more and show more from this after the deal is done.



The module box contains the 8 module all-in pack with space for miniatures. These boxes are very large and are made of sturdy materials. They will hold up well. These modules are amazing. There is an over-arching theme within them that takes the heroes from Novice to JM and sets up larger campaigns for the future. We are pretty proud of the stories told here. The game play is compelling and each has unique items and game play elements. By the end of these modules, you'll be on the cusp of a legendary hero and you'll feel like it. I'll talk more and show more from this after the deal is done.




The SG box contains all the SGs including the 3 modules unlocked there. All SG minis will be housed in this box. There are so many goodies in this box. We are hoping, when you finally open up this box and see all that you have received, you'll forgive the delays required to make these elements the best. In Keith's own words, "If this is our swan song... what a song."




Finally, a sample of the colored FD.



Hopefully you see these very real production elements and it gives you confidence. Dark Frontier pledge manager/pre-order ends tomorrow morning (you can still pre-order the game if you desire). It will be out of production and on a boat in August. Then there is only the giant complicated JM KS to finish.

We are almost done. We are a bit worse for wear but approach the end of this KS with great anticipation. In the next few weeks, we'll know if we'll continue on this grand adventure or go our separate ways onto other things. It is our hope to keep bringing you exciting new Myth stuff through another publisher for a long time.


The admission that they're not good 'business men' is...obvious, but good to see?

I hope that they finalize this deal with (X) and that the Myth property continues on - at least through the completion of this one, and for a future MYTH MASTER!


[Kickstarter] MYTH Journeyman - News, Rumors, Updates! @ 2017/07/31 23:04:49


Post by: highlord tamburlaine


I'll be happy if they can get this deal signed and we all get our stuff.

Despite all the drama, I'm still wishing I had ordered the book. Having looked at some of the game guides they worked on, they were really nice.
If we get it, I'm sure this one will be a big labor of love as well.


[Kickstarter] MYTH Journeyman - News, Rumors, Updates! @ 2017/07/31 23:36:55


Post by: JoshInJapan


Well, this is probably for the best. We played the game pre-revision, and enjoyed it despite the James Joyce-like writing in the rules. Hopefully being part of a larger organization will give them access to editing and proofreading for future releases.


[Kickstarter] MYTH Journeyman - News, Rumors, Updates! @ 2018/04/15 16:19:52


Post by: yamato


A little thread necromancy here; but there has been a bit of news:

While the sale of the Myth IP is reported to have been completed; the new owners have yet to announce (my total speculation is Warcradle - they could marry the Myth IP with what little lore there was for Uncharted Seas to great a true fantasy line). The latest update mentions April - or - August,.... to me it sounds like perhaps GenCon before things get relaunched,.... until then, there were some actual pictures!

The production of the next waves is underway with printed materials coming first,.... modules should really ratchet up the replay value of the game!!!

Proof review pics:











Just the printed stuff is a huge amount of stuff!

- 2 boxes
- 11 modules (330 pages of text)
- 1 LE hardcover book (208 pages of text)
- 550+ cards
- 24 realm tiles
- 13 punch boards

Over 550 cards! And the modules each have their own punch boards for tokens, etc,... they've taken the opportunity to add new lair tokens to each in the new JM format (so it looks like even the modules that call out original KS1 expansion monsters like the Rats and Elementals will be forward compatible with the eventual new base set once the new owners take over).

The Miniatures will be a different production workflow and may be in several waves (especially if you ordered the Over the Top pledge):

We haven't spoken about the minis much because the relationship with the factory has changed and we've wanted to be sure everything is how it was. Right now you are saying to yourself, "What!?" and maybe getting a bit nervous. Bear with me.

We worked with ZIBO in the past for Myth minis. However, ZIBO is really a broker that works with the production factory JX. They are the factory that did the production for Myth, Myth: Journeyman, and Banner Saga, so we've been able to see full production runs already. When we are in China we visit the JX plant with the owner of ZIBO, Benjamin, and we got to see Banner Saga in-progress first hand.

Benjamin is a French born citizen who lived in China. He spoke the language and helped ease the communication barrier that can sometimes happen with Chinese factories.

He is moving back to France. He had possession of our molds because we worked through him, but was going to leave it up to us on how we wanted to proceed. He suggested we maintain our relationship with the JX plant. He was very confident nothing would change in terms of quality or output. He put us in direct contact with the person who is the plant owner.

After a good bit of dialogue with the JX plant and Benjamin, we decided to keep our mini production at the same plant. We were worried what this was going to mean but any worries we have had have been satisfied. Benjamin will still maintain a relationship with the factory and maintain the sculpting studio that created most of the first Myth minis.

As a way to ease into direct work with the factory, we've moved forward with a couple of test molds and a smaller production run of the old minis (the "Over the Top" add on) . We wanted to take it a bit slower to make sure the work is the same.

We're confident nothing much will change but the slower pace is to make sure the quality stays the same. We'll have pictures and an update when we have initial pressings of the minis.


[Kickstarter] MYTH Journeyman - News, Rumors, Updates! @ 2018/07/05 16:21:28


Post by: DaveC


Well this is going to drag on for another year

TL: DR

New owners to be announced at Gencon
Shipping now is for printed materials only no miniatures this time they are due May 2019.
You can pay now to have the printed materials shipped and then pay for shipping for the miniatures next year or do nothing now and wait for it all to ship together next year.

Jul 5 2018

Ships and Shipping...and a bit more
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Shipping

As some of you have discovered, the PM is open and shipping can be paid. We've been testing it and it appears to be working as intended, so now we are making it official. There are several things to note about this round of shipping:

Link to PM: https://signin.pledgemanager.com/

The main two boxes are very heavy (all dense paper and cardboard) . The shipping cost is based off weight. Each product has the real weight assigned to it.
The cost varies based on location. More importantly, how much and what the customer ordered impacts the price more so now, ie. two packages going to California can be much different in price.
Non-subsidized pricing. The price tag for shipping for some of you will be very high. We've always helped offset the costs previously, but are not able to do so now.
If you have multiple pledges, the shipping should reflect this.
You can choose to wait and receive it all at once with the last shipment (see details below). Shipping prices are going up every six months and I don't expect that trend to change. If you wait, expect the shipping cost to go up.
Please verify your address. If you need to change your address, you should be able to do so in the PM now.
If for some reason you find you can order something, please don't. We cannot honor any new item purchases at this time. The print runs/injection numbers are locked. The printing limits and prices negotiated have been set across the board.
If you waited to have your Journeyman expansion shipped until now, you will see shipping in two places. There is an area that says reward shipping (Shores and Blackwall) and an area that says weight shipping (the current wave). In the example below, this backer has already paid for his base Shores and Blackwall games. He only needs to pay for the current shipping.

The first bracket has to do with the shipping of this base game expansions and the weight shipping has to do with the current shipping.
The first bracket has to do with the shipping of this base game expansions and the weight shipping has to do with the current shipping.
The PM will be open until August 1st to pay for shipping. Afterwards, it will be locked and the addresses of the backers who paid organized for shipping. We may be able to open up the PM again for a batch for people who missed this opportunity, but it isn't a guarantee and won't be this year.

What's coming in this shipment?

Stretch Goal materials ( modules / cards / punchboards / tavern mode)
All-in Modules (modules / cards / punchboards)
LE Book
Item Expansions 1, 2 & 3
Question Expansions 1, 2 & 3
2.0 Monster Cards (any add-on purchased mini will have their cards in this as well)
Realm Tile Expansion 1
Realm Tile Supplement 1 & 2
Spriggan, Trickster, and Skald (Novice 2.0) as well as Journeyman cards
2.0 starting gear for Spriggan, Trickster, and Skald
Slaughterfield Expansion (Journeyman) items and cards
Journeyman Hunter Cards
Colored Fate Dice
Treasure Bag
Tuck Boxes
Over-the-Top Printed materials (some of which are already listed above)
Ships

Australia

Boat: XIN QING DAO V.177S
ETA Port: 30 Jun
United States

Boat: OOCL TAIPEI V.025E
ETA Port: 5 Jul
EU

Boat: MARSEILLE MAERSK V.824W
ETA Port: 24 Jul
Miniatures

We are looking at final wave delivery of the miniatures in the summer of 2019 but it is still very much a moving target. We should have test injections to show you in forth quarter. As I mentioned several updates ago, we are going slower at the beginning to ensure quality.

Translations

Translated materials will be shipped out with the final wave.

Buyer Announcement

We understand the buyer will be talking about the purchase at Gencon. Expect a bit of news to filter out during the convention and we'll have a larger update afterwards.


[Kickstarter] MYTH Journeyman - News, Rumors, Updates! @ 2018/07/07 09:22:02


Post by: PsychoticStorm


I hope they do not mess up the miniatures like they did with Mercs, I also hope the new owner manages to right the ship despite everything megacon did, Myth had and still has a lot of potential.

In contrast mercs had potential but they burned it so thoroughly to the ground it is not salvageable by anyone.


[Kickstarter] MYTH Journeyman - News, Rumors, Updates! @ 2018/07/07 17:41:25


Post by: yamato


I'd imagine the miniatures delay is also to coordinate with the new publisher and how they will move forward.

The game may not need a reboot,.... but for sure a new base set to bring in new players; and a clear view of how progression and retail strategy will work.

reprinting the base game as well as original KS1 minis was required by MCG anyway to fulfill people who did the Over The Top pledge,... added KS1 stuff,... or pledged for monster sets in the Dark Frontier campaign. It only makes sense to coop that mini production with the new publisher.

I guess I will find out at GenCon what the plan is. What little information out there says that there are three main projects that the new publisher will produce first (new base set, adventurer's tool-kit, and potentially the Master level expansion have been mentioned). A two year release schedule was also discussed,.......

I would think that if they did the new base set right and had the correct promotion/support,.... they could then release boxed expansions of the module content that is already designed during that time; and would have built up a good audience for a Master expansion,....... (I'm hoping the new publisher stays away from KS and just polishes the game and makes it viable on the shelf)



[Kickstarter] MYTH Journeyman - News, Rumors, Updates! @ 2018/07/09 02:22:51


Post by: Mysterio


I'm a little annoyed that we have to pay shipping by July 31, no minis until 2019, and the big announcement from the new owners of the brand will be made at Gencon...August 2nd, or thereabouts.

I mean, yeah, I want my stuff, so I'll pay the shipping, but this is yet another 'bad look' from the Mercs crew.


[Kickstarter] MYTH Journeyman - News, Rumors, Updates! @ 2018/08/01 21:23:01


Post by: yamato


The new publisher should be revealed as GenCon kicks off; not sure how much news we will get,.... but things are moving forward.


[Kickstarter] MYTH Journeyman - News, Rumors, Updates! @ 2018/08/01 23:42:21


Post by: Mysterio


It will be good to finally learn who it is, what their plans are, and WHEN ARE WE FINALLY GOING TO GET ALL THE STUFF WE ALREADY BOUGHT!!!!


[Kickstarter] MYTH Journeyman - News, Rumors, Updates! @ 2018/08/08 02:26:41


Post by: yamato


I got to meet with the designers over the weekend and was able to do some sneak peaks,.... this stuff is shipping out right now.

Limited Edition Book




Stretch Goals Box




I also shot video of the All-in Modules box and will add that here once I edit and process it.

enjoy!


[Kickstarter] MYTH Journeyman - News, Rumors, Updates! @ 2018/08/08 11:51:13


Post by: Mysterio


Any word on who the new buyer is?

That was supposed to come out at Gencon?

And...when will the remaining miniatures ship?


[Kickstarter] MYTH Journeyman - News, Rumors, Updates! @ 2018/08/08 18:16:37


Post by: yamato


- Speculation by many led to someone asking at the Ulisses North America booth; to which they replied that they could not talk about it yet, but offered some sort of confirmation. So while there has been no official confirmation or press release; it seems to be them.

- as far as we know; one last wave of all minis for next summer (2019). At that point; people who waited to pay shipping should get everything in one shipment.




Automatically Appended Next Post:
Here is the next video showing the All-In Modules box, tuck boxes, and Tile Supplement #2.






[Kickstarter] MYTH Journeyman - News, Rumors, Updates! @ 2018/08/22 18:21:05


Post by: yamato


 Mysterio wrote:
Any word on who the new buyer is?

That was supposed to come out at Gencon?

And...when will the remaining miniatures ship?


They announced that Ulisses North America is the buyer; and that they (UNA) should be making a press release very soon. At that point; news about the future plans for the game will start to be released.


[Kickstarter] MYTH Journeyman - News, Rumors, Updates! @ 2018/09/05 13:42:04


Post by: PsychoticStorm


I got mine delivered today, unannounced, hope Ulisses will do a good work salvaging this, it may have been vastly mishandled by megacon, but at its core it is really good.


[Kickstarter] MYTH Journeyman - News, Rumors, Updates! @ 2018/09/05 15:13:31


Post by: yamato


yeah - so much potential,..... the visions have been pretty grand. Let's see where it goes,.... for anyone interested; I have a FB group now where it's all Myth all the time,.. it's a fun place to show pics, discuss stuff etc.

http://www.facebook.com/groups/330952740725127


[Kickstarter] MYTH Journeyman - News, Rumors, Updates! @ 2018/11/05 16:02:48


Post by: yamato


The most recent update by Ian from Ulisses NA stated that they still had some legal hoops to jump through. Hopefully things are wrapping up. This game has some much yet to reveal. There was some info from one of the Ulisses folks that they will be doing the fulfillment of the "plastic" parts of the SG for the campaign after the deal is completely finalized and that they hope to do it faster than the original proposal of MCG!

We are looking at sending out the plastic after the sale is complete, I don't think it will be a full year like MegaCon Games had planned to send them out. But I don't have a time frame or date yet from the manager who will be in charge of the project so I won't give you an estimate today. I would hate to say it will be 3 months then it turns out to be 5 or 6 months.

We are intending to reopen the PM after the sale is complete and all Myth product is transferred and we audit the product. This will give the backers who have not paid for shipping one last chance to pay.


[Kickstarter] MYTH Journeyman - News, Rumors, Updates! @ 2018/11/05 19:11:27


Post by: Mysterio


Where was that 'update' posted?


[Kickstarter] MYTH Journeyman - News, Rumors, Updates! @ 2018/11/25 19:49:43


Post by: yamato


 Mysterio wrote:
Where was that 'update' posted?


Sorry; it was not an "official update",... it was an e-mail response, so take it for what it's worth.

UNA had said in their first update that they had some legal things to tie up before they could proceed.

Earlier this week James (from Ulisses North America) did post on the KS page (as an official collaborator on the project):

we just finalized the sale late last week we will be putting out an update very shortly.

James for Ulisses North America


we all still wait; I hope they get out information this week,......





[Kickstarter] MYTH Journeyman - News, Rumors, Updates! @ 2018/11/25 20:27:12


Post by: Mysterio


No worries - I was just curious!

As a backer, I hadn't seen any 'official; updates via Kickstarter, so I was just wondering.

I am, of course, grateful for any info whatsoever - so thank you!


[Kickstarter] MYTH Journeyman - News, Rumors, Updates! @ 2019/03/04 21:38:56


Post by: yamato


Returning from the dead once again:

Ulisses North America has confirmed again that they have taken over the Myth IP. They seem to be wanting to funnel their communication through Facebook for their games now,... and have just posted this news on their page:

(TLDR: they will produce the missing miniatures from the Journeyman campaign for backers; but will also be launching new Myth products via KS)

Hello friends,

Myth is in our hands, and its next chapter starts now!

As you might have heard, Ulisses Spiele acquired the Myth IP and board game from MegaCon Games last year. Unfortunately, since we did that, it has been too quiet around Myth and that silence understandably annoyed some of you. We are terribly sorry about that, not only because we never wanted to upset our customers, but also because that's not good for the awesome boardgame that is Myth.

But let's explain how it happened. In buying Myth, we did not only acquire a great game, but also a lot of problems caused previously. To give you one example, in the past Kickstarter, some orders were fulfilled incompletely or not at all. Obviously, this is unacceptable, and we want to make things better. Luckily, we inherited the rest of the existing product, and that's good news. As long as this stock lasts, we will keep all the promises MegaCon has made to you and deliver the parts you are missing. If we do not have these parts in individual cases, we will give you an equivalent voucher for our online store to buy other Ulisses products, but we will not be able to refund the items you are missing. MegaCon Games used all the money from the previous purchases to produce the products you already have and Ulisses is using funds beyond the Kickstarters to produce those miniatures still missing.

We will fulfill Journeyman.

This situation is even more dramatic for Journeyman. Every penny you paid for Journeyman landed at MegaCon. However, it wasn’t enough to produce everything for Journeyman at the time we took over the game, especially the miniatures. Purely legally speaking, Journeyman should be dead, but that's something we cannot and will not live with here at Ulisses. We decided to finish producing Journeyman. For us, this is a long-term decision and even though we already know that we must make a significant investment to do so, we will do just that.

Since we are starting production of the miniatures from the beginning with Journeyman, the release will unfortunately not go as fast as we all wish. Our goal is to finish Journeyman within the next 12 months. Still we will be launching another Kickstarter for Myth in the coming year. We pledge to honor the promises made, the game’s legacy, and you, the fans. At the same time, we want to develop more cool stuff to tie things up, keep Myth running and growing, and finally get it back into local game stores and distribution. This is why we will do a new campaign with new content, as we continue fulfilling the promises made by MegaCon Games.

This also means we will regularly post news and updates on one of our favorite games as the project proceeds.

We will publish weekly news on new characters, work in progress, and new designs here on our Facebook page. We hope that you are as excited and passionate about Myth as we are and will help us keep Myth alive.




[Kickstarter] MYTH Journeyman - News, Rumors, Updates! @ 2019/03/05 02:14:25


Post by: Alpharius


We want to believe!

(fingers crossed)

Myth is...kinda dead for me now.

But a well run "Master" campaign might get me interested again!

I do feel like their KS campaign might be a re-boot of the overall game though, cleaning up the rules, etc.


[Kickstarter] MYTH Journeyman - News, Rumors, Updates! @ 2019/12/23 18:31:51


Post by: DaveC


Important news reply by 31st January 2020 or you'll potentially lose out.

The PM is locked and unavailable I had to dig out an old receipt email to see what I'm still owed.

THE MAILS SHOULD BE IN YOUR INBOX NOW !!!

UPDATE FOR THE MYTH CROWDFUNDING

It took us a long time, but finally it will go on with the shipping for the Myth crowdfunding. Some of you are still missing essential products and this is something we want to change.

First of all: The miniatures are still in production. We expect them to be ready in mid of 2020.

For the other physical products: We have a limited stock of 59 different products. Every Backer will receive an eMail (by tomorrow) with all relevant data and stocks. Please reply to this mail with the following info:

1. Your updated shipping address and name
2. A list of the products you are still missing.

You have time for this until the 31st of January 2020. After that we will check the orders and prepare everything for shipping.

We will ship everything for free, so there will be no additional shipping costs for you.

IMPORTANT: We can only send missing products to the backers who reply to the eMail and we only have a limited stock. We do not have any more products.

If you did not get the eMail or if you have any questions, please contact us via myth@ulisses-spiele.de

We also want to apologize for the whole process behind the Myth crowdfunding. Thank you for your understanding!


Please check your order and let us know, what exactly you are missing. Let us know until the 31st of January 2020.

After you provided the missing products we have to check your order. This is necessary, as we have a limited stock.

Some info about the subsequence distribution:

If you do not reply until the 31st of January, we cannot send out any products anymore
You will only get your products if you reply to this mail, we have no option to automate this process. So we rely on you. We are sorry about that!
We will update you about the stock of the products
There will be no shipping costs for you!


https://www.facebook.com/UlissesINT/?__tn__=kC-R&eid=ARCbNGhq1jYPyyfIDcO8eLAsQCriWGdBnzJ9N_zey6JwUK4PbKhJNH6RhO6blhHdk7fg58RVbrzVUWjf&hc_ref=ARQBf0_mUtPCk24qhOQKihCMIieQ8L_d4zt-CB8h_jJKQSRwU_nLLOMV78pB3t0fmpQ&fref=nf&__xts__%5B0%5D=68.ARBBG7w7_CtN1J08od8Rdop2CP9qB08W9Kb3RIXSYDbVW2fxpqvwKvH8pGXRoOuyI0Q2LVVg7LtWQQq1XWtqJnX7CeP0QeLjrxWMCnIByX-Du4NiS5q_-loPmehhZef9OK5xfKKFmF0rmemZnL07iqS-7-6LQISdDZ6Dl3tNbE4NrtVWmVkR_wbxqg6DrEQ94icuzXmaHu5pNiA78m2sjE_iaYwlj7vVZzy9xLqcqPaajrgEEhYwgWxnBZ3lFNUEad62X6h2HN_r-ZSM5PJ5GihONL1zT7E0IRYnR4uMLtgERAsZxcDzMldMCE7tpNnMsQoPm7TTvzyBxVb12vn049OG1A


[Kickstarter] MYTH Journeyman - News, Rumors, Updates! @ 2019/12/26 15:06:55


Post by: Alpharius


It will be really hard to figure out what I don't have if they were supposed to have already shipped it to me and they didn't.

I...don't know what I don't know?

Do we have to reply back and say "Er, you definitely owe me all the miniatures!" ?


[Kickstarter] MYTH Journeyman - News, Rumors, Updates! @ 2019/12/26 16:16:36


Post by: DaveC


I just sent back a PM receipt I had from when I changed address after the Shores of Kanis and Blackwall Warrens had already shipped. I found that email from May 2017 and I was surprised how far back it actually was. The receipt shows these as shipped and rest as due. To best of my knowledge that's all I've got so far as I opted to wait for everything else until the minis are done.

So basically my email back said here's my receipt, to the best of my knowledge all I got is the expansions and everything else is due and I can wait for the all in modules until the mins are done next year. It's up to them to sort it out from there.

At this point I'd just settle for the All in Modules and hope I can sell them on and recover the $130 they cost. The main game is stored away on high shelf and isn't coming back down.


[Kickstarter] MYTH Journeyman - News, Rumors, Updates! @ 2019/12/27 19:54:20


Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured


One of the folk on the reaper forums say your pledge manager should still be visible here

https://my.pledgemanager.com/


[Kickstarter] MYTH Journeyman - News, Rumors, Updates! @ 2019/12/27 23:08:51


Post by: Alpharius


Thank you for that!

It certainly seems to indicate what was shipped and what’s left - very helpful!

Again, thanks!


[Kickstarter] MYTH Journeyman - News, Rumors, Updates! @ 2019/12/28 01:57:22


Post by: DaveC


 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
One of the folk on the reaper forums say your pledge manager should still be visible here

https://my.pledgemanager.com/


IT works for some and not for others I just get an order locked but incomplete screen with no details and a message to contact the project creator for further details.


[Kickstarter] MYTH Journeyman - News, Rumors, Updates! @ 2020/02/17 14:42:59


Post by: yamato


More thread necromancy here,.... but This thing still has blood left in it. Lots going on with the new owner (Uisses International). We had some sneak peaks at new testing for the game,... (what looks like new player boards):



Starting tomorrow is a small Kickstarter for just a new version of the book that so many loved in the Journeyman campaign. Not too much has be said yet; but it is clear that this will have less rules and more art and lore,....

It sounds like the most of the bestiary, hero spreads, etc would still be there; and perhaps some of the special alternate rules (solo mode, bar fight, slaughterfield) may remain; but that the core rule book will be removed in favor of more lore and more art.

The KS starts at 10am East tomorrow: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ulissesspiele/myth-world-of-myth And it is supposed to have a digital option as well!!!

Here are some teaser shots of new pages:













Automatically Appended Next Post:
I should also add; more importantly to all of this for us backers: is that at least some of the Journeyman miniatures that we are all due should be well into production. We were told that we'd see these this summer; so I really hope that they will use this book campaign as an opportunity to talk and show more about what we should expect to get this year.

Fingers crossed! I really love this game - not just the gameplay but also the theme and art - and the new owner is using the talent of the previous designer and artist - hopefully their execution of the business side of things will finally get us all those wonderful models and more and more content to enjoy.


[Kickstarter] MYTH Journeyman - News, Rumors, Updates! @ 2020/02/18 15:32:28


Post by: yamato


The book KS is up: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ulissesspiele/myth-world-of-myth

The Bestiary will now include the Lucanines:



A new monster type for Myth (perhaps in the upcoming Dawn of Heroes relaunch?)





[Kickstarter] MYTH Journeyman - News, Rumors, Updates! @ 2020/02/18 22:11:57


Post by: Alpharius


I already bought this book...

And now, for some extra pages of content, if I want an actual book (again), it will cost me €63 + €15 shipping, for a total of €78?

For a game which...has been a bit of a letdown in many ways so far to date?

I can't do it.

Not sure what this means for the future of the game as a whole...


[Kickstarter] MYTH Journeyman - News, Rumors, Updates! @ 2020/02/21 05:02:51


Post by: yamato


Yeah - I'm still waiting to see their direction,.... this is expensive,... and mostly directed at buyers who have been asking for a reprint of the book.

Ulisses still need to prove themselves as the new owners. And it does sound like they have many plans underway. Also let out today that they are building a separate team to develop a stand alone RPG in the Myth world in addition to the board game. That is their wheelhouse after all.

I think if they can deliver this book and the JM minis that thye keep talking about; that the game could come back. (thant's my hoope anyway - as I am a big fan of the unique mechanics and the art).