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GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/28 09:11:07


Post by: Eldarsif


I am surprised we didn't get any reveals what books are next for 40k and AoS.


GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/28 09:33:31


Post by: Dudeface


 Eldarsif wrote:
I am surprised we didn't get any reveals what books are next for 40k and AoS.


It's weird we don't know, by all accounts you'd assume it's eldar > chaos knights > chaos marines for 40k, then idoneth & fyreslayers > DoK & Nighthaunt for sigmar, but they're wonderfully none committal.


GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/28 09:36:08


Post by: The Phazer


This was definitely not very good. I'm even more surprised they burned the Avatar early now.

I assume things are going badly wrong behind the scenes again to only be showing off one model from the Kill Team box that was supposed to be out this week.


GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/28 09:37:53


Post by: Overread


Or perhaps this is just the teaser and if the Killteam box is that close they will release the rest of the info soon? Don't forget its not like the old Kirby days where a reveal was all we got for months upon months. We could well see brand new things this Sunday let alone any day of the week from GW.


GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/28 09:48:23


Post by: Dysartes


 The Phazer wrote:
This was definitely not very good. I'm even more surprised they burned the Avatar early now.

If you mean the early reveal on WHC, that'd be because of whichever... pillock decided that posting potato-cam pics was a good move, rather than waiting 24 hours for the official preview event. Once those lower-quality pics started circulating, getting good pics out there makes sense.

Now, whether it was some rando at LVO that got the pics during a rehearsal of the preview, or whether it was an attempt to do guerrilla marketing by GW, I'll leave that to you to decide...


GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/28 10:29:21


Post by: The Black Adder


Well I'm excited even if nobody else is. The avatar is brilliant, Maugan Ra is cool, shining spears look ace, i'm stoked for corsairs and even more excited for some vehicles in necromunda that I can cannibalize for GSC,

I'm tempted to try making the dark reapers look more like Maugan Ra when I can get my hands on a box.


GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/28 10:34:10


Post by: Overread


I'm also thinking that with the Autarch spare parts that will be floating around from the two plastic kits and the new Shining Spears, you won't even have to use the old Autarch on Jetbike model either. Though I'd be surprised if GW don't remove/replace that model with this wave of updates.


That said it feels like we are coming to the end of the Eldar update and previews. I think rumours have hinted at one more Aspect getting updated? Even if not I think we've exhausted all the reliable rumours of models coming.


GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/28 11:03:40


Post by: H.B.M.C.


 Overread wrote:
Or perhaps this is just the teaser and if the Killteam box is that close they will release the rest of the info soon?
There really is no excuse you won't make for them, is there?

It was (yet another) underwhelming preview, filled with things that we've either already seen before, things we already knew about (even if we hadn't seen the entire mini), and "teasers" for things they aren't revealing right now.


GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/28 11:08:09


Post by: tauist


Found my KT21 corsairs painting reference






GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/28 11:18:15


Post by: Overread


 H.B.M.C. wrote:
 Overread wrote:
Or perhaps this is just the teaser and if the Killteam box is that close they will release the rest of the info soon?
There really is no excuse you won't make for them, is there?

It was (yet another) underwhelming preview, filled with things that we've either already seen before, things we already knew about (even if we hadn't seen the entire mini), and "teasers" for things they aren't revealing right now.



It's not an excuse, its how reveals have been for a long while. The nature of a GW preview event has changed over the years. It's gone from a single event releasing huge amounts of stuff in isolation into a smaller number per event, but more through the year. And in the end we get what we get. Sure I'd like more, but I prefer reliable. I know that most of the models I'll see released in the next 3 months or so and that most of the hinted stuff (eg Necromunda) will be in the next 6 months or so. I'd rather that than seeing a years worth of releases. Heck I recall the old days of Spartan Games where previews and sneak peeks were sometimes closer to "IF" rather than when at times.


And yeah I accept that if I'm looking at rumour images, sneak peaks and interacting with GW media (direct and indirect) on a regular basis that a preview is going to have less totally fresh stuff.

Again its not an excuse, its how previews have been for a number of years. Even before Corona started messing things up the previews were often getting a little smaller and just spread out more between events


GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/28 11:26:10


Post by: tauist


This style of drip feed marketing has developed because Social Media algorithms favour posting often rather than posting every now and then, resulting in quantity over quality.

I'm kind of used to it already. Kinda sucks to be constantly checking the sites but what can you do..


GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/28 11:30:43


Post by: lord_blackfang


What if they're saving massive development costs by having Ash Waste Nomads in Kill Team Nachmund and in Necromunda 2022


GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/28 11:47:36


Post by: Crispy78


Yeah it's the usual vague disappointment despite some good stuff.

Eldar stuff all looks great, no complaints there other than 'is that it now?'. Corsair looks very cool.

Slightly different bloodthirster? Even as a Khorne enthusiast I have to say MEH.

AoS - another starter box with ghosts in it? Ho hum. Book ghost is pretty cool. Not sure crossbows really gel as a ghostly weapon to me. Miss Whiplash is alright but will look rubbish when her whip breaks off the first time you try to take her anywhere.

MadmaxHammer could be good fun, but need to see more than a cartoon.

Don't yet subscribe to warhammer telly, and that extra show isn't going to tip me over the edge.

So yeah, some nice stuff but ultimately 'huh, is that it?'...


GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/28 11:54:43


Post by: Shadow Walker


Crispy78 wrote:

Slightly different bloodthirster? Even as a Khorne enthusiast I have to say MEH.

He is very important to HH and BA fluff.


GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/28 12:00:55


Post by: Platuan4th


 Shadow Walker wrote:
Crispy78 wrote:

Slightly different bloodthirster? Even as a Khorne enthusiast I have to say MEH.

He is very important to HH and BA fluff.


He also took part in the End Times for WHFB.


GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/28 12:08:00


Post by: Red Corsair


 Platuan4th wrote:
 Shadow Walker wrote:
Crispy78 wrote:

Slightly different bloodthirster? Even as a Khorne enthusiast I have to say MEH.

He is very important to HH and BA fluff.


He also took part in the End Times for WHFB.


Thats cute, the model also just looks like any other generic Blood Thirster lol.

I think this just reminds folks how much they would have enjoyed seeing cables and butchers nails winding from the back of that models skull...


GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/28 12:10:02


Post by: Gert


Man if only the last year of reveals weren't leaked ruining any real sense of mystery and excitement then maybe these previews would be more enjoyable.


GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/28 12:11:21


Post by: Red Corsair


Maugen Rah having that cloak kind of kills the new model for me.

GW digital design for these massive cloaks still looks really poor most of the time. It looks like plastic even after being painted. But even if that were not an issue for me, covering up the majority of his helmet and uniquely ornate armor is also frustrating.

He looks like the original primaris chaplains slightly edgier half brother.


GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/28 12:12:08


Post by: ImAGeek


 Gert wrote:
Man if only the last year of reveals weren't leaked ruining any real sense of mystery and excitement then maybe these previews would be more enjoyable.


It’s only 40k that’s been leaked, so that doesn’t excuse the previews for every other game being disappointing. Plus, knowing what’s coming and actually seeing it is very different.


GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/28 12:16:29


Post by: Red Corsair


 Gert wrote:
Man if only the last year of reveals weren't leaked ruining any real sense of mystery and excitement then maybe these previews would be more enjoyable.


Your going to actually believe these aren't conducted by GW themselves?

Imagine sending out playtest manuals for the rules only, but your such a numpty you format the file to completion, including fully developed and painted photos before you hit send... Either the playtesting isn't real, because there sending out "test" files that are clearly half way out the door, or these hilariously poor potato photos are intentional. It's not like GW haven't already embraced the potato cam meme...Oh wait.


GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/28 12:27:13


Post by: H.B.M.C.


 Gert wrote:
Man if only the last year of reveals weren't leaked ruining any real sense of mystery and excitement then maybe these previews would be more enjoyable.
Hey we didn't know about Crossbow Ghosts. They're pretty cool.


GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/28 12:27:39


Post by: chaos0xomega


Even when I expect nothing I am still disappointed.

40k - Aeldari reveal was cool, but the thing I was most excited about - Maugan Ra - is a letdown, 100% because of the hood. I am fine with the cloak, but the hood completely kills it, Maugan Ras helmet was one of the coolest parts of the original sculpt, and the chose to hide it under a hood. Never has a miniature resculpt come so close to achieving perfection only to be completely let down by a single artistic choice.

AoS - Battlebox is an unexpected boon (I'll take two!), but its not new Battletomes for the 2 oldest factions in the game. Nor is it battletomes for *any* faction. Going on 6+ months since the new edition launched and we still only have 3 new battletomes for the game. GW is moving dangerously close to the old WHFB army book schedule here with regards to the pacing of their rules updates (and White Dwarf patches are not, in my eyes, sufficient).

Horus Heresy - L-O-FETHING-L. Told you guys we would not be getting the big reveal on the plastic sets and 2nd edition rules. I don't know if GW is intentionally trolling us or just letting the community hype itself into excitement by continuing to announce Horus Heresy previews and then only show us one-off resin miniatures from forgworld, but its getting old and I hope it backfires on them. We're going on a year since those images leaked and they've yet to announce or acknowledge anythign at all about them or that a second edition is coming, etc.

Warhammer + - Meh. I'm a day 1 sub, but mainly for those sweet sweet exclusive minis. These low budget animated shorts don't do anything for me.

Kill Team - Just one mini? Thats it? Thats all we get? Its a cool mini, granted, but it would be nice to have at least seen the rest of the Corsairs unit, or have any mention at all as to who their opponent is (evidently *NOT* Vostroyans - once again, as I've told you guys in other threads, a lot of these preview things that you guys get hyped up about and try to spin into hints and teases for what will be shown off are red herrings, what does *any* of what was shown in the preview have to do with Nimbosa??), or what kind of terrain comes in the box, etc.

Necromunda - This could have been cool if they showed off any minis at all. I suspect we'll find out that some of the rumor engines we've been assuming are guard vehicles are actually Necromunda vehicles. But I have to wonder, is this expansion something Necromunda wanted or needed, or would it have been better for this to be a separate game?


GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/28 12:43:01


Post by: xttz


 Overread wrote:
Or perhaps this is just the teaser and if the Killteam box is that close they will release the rest of the info soon? Don't forget its not like the old Kirby days where a reveal was all we got for months upon months. We could well see brand new things this Sunday let alone any day of the week from GW.


I suspect that - based on rumours that have so far been accurate - there's a ton of 40k releases delayed from 2021 ready to go. GW are trying to catch up and preserve originally planned dates like a summer release for whatever big 40k boxed set is coming, and as a result that stuff is being prioritised.

Therefore things like Kill Team & Necromunda are being shuffled back from their original release dates and now we get sneak peaks instead of real previews.

 Red Corsair wrote:
 Gert wrote:
Man if only the last year of reveals weren't leaked ruining any real sense of mystery and excitement then maybe these previews would be more enjoyable.


Your going to actually believe these aren't conducted by GW themselves?

Imagine sending out playtest manuals for the rules only, but your such a numpty you format the file to completion, including fully developed and painted photos before you hit send... Either the playtesting isn't real, because there sending out "test" files that are clearly half way out the door, or these hilariously poor potato photos are intentional. It's not like GW haven't already embraced the potato cam meme...Oh wait.


There are two 'levels' of playtesters. The Mournival & Infinity Circuit groups who are credited in each book deal with work-in-progress rules prior to codex printing and production. Often they only test changes using incomplete codexes - for example one playtester has stated that the Ork codex they used didn't include any of the new Beastsnagga models.

Then there is another (possibly larger) group who receive finalised copies of codexes well before official release. They provide a lot of the initial feedback to GW for the first FAQs & errata (like when they had to publish Space Wolf warlord traits on WarCom for release day) and others produce the usual social media review content. It's from this group that we're seeing all the recent rules leaks for Custodes, Tau, Eldar, etc.


GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/28 13:02:52


Post by: JWBS


Barely 6 months since the initial plastic HH potato pics.


GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/28 13:03:44


Post by: ImAGeek


JWBS wrote:
Barely 6 months since the initial plastic HH potato pics.


6 months is a long time for a big leak to go unacknowledged.


GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/28 13:07:23


Post by: JWBS


Yeah but calling that almost a year is a stretch too far.


GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/28 13:14:29


Post by: tneva82


 ImAGeek wrote:
JWBS wrote:
Barely 6 months since the initial plastic HH potato pics.


6 months is a long time for a big leak to go unacknowledged.


Expecting gw to bend over and mess their schedule for every leak is unrealistic and unreasonable


GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/28 13:20:40


Post by: ImAGeek


tneva82 wrote:
 ImAGeek wrote:
JWBS wrote:
Barely 6 months since the initial plastic HH potato pics.


6 months is a long time for a big leak to go unacknowledged.


Expecting gw to bend over and mess their schedule for every leak is unrealistic and unreasonable


Yes, that’s exactly what I said they should do, well done!


GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/28 13:23:59


Post by: Gert


 ImAGeek wrote:
It’s only 40k that’s been leaked, so that doesn’t excuse the previews for every other game being disappointing. Plus, knowing what’s coming and actually seeing it is very different.

Only the Corsair was unseen from the Aeldari reveals, which is pretty gakky IMO especially when the full Avatar was leaked literally the day before the preview. The fact that nothing has been said about the Heresy leak from months ago just makes every Heresy reveal that much more bitter in a community that's already got an axe to grind against GW.
I don't mind a vague leak that gets people chatting about possible releases or upcoming changes but this last year has just been irritating. I don't think GW should be changing their schedule to suit the leaks btw, that's unreasonable. I would just expect people to have some decency and let people be excited about things instead of ruining it.

 Red Corsair wrote:
Your going to actually believe these aren't conducted by GW themselves?

Imagine sending out playtest manuals for the rules only, but your such a numpty you format the file to completion, including fully developed and painted photos before you hit send... Either the playtesting isn't real, because there sending out "test" files that are clearly half way out the door, or these hilariously poor potato photos are intentional. It's not like GW haven't already embraced the potato cam meme...Oh wait.

Yes, I believe that GW leaked the entire Avatar model the day before the preview, a detailed itinerary of every release from the past 6 months, the entire T'au Codex, and most of the Craftworlds Codex but not anything from AoS, Necromunda, Warcry, HH or any of their other systems. Makes perfect sense.


GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/28 13:26:40


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


As an aside, it seems GW have some new exclusive models at the LVO.

One is a Swamp Called Shaman for AOS, and there’s murmuring of a 40K one, but I can find piccies of the 40K one.

Any help?


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 ImAGeek wrote:
tneva82 wrote:
 ImAGeek wrote:
JWBS wrote:
Barely 6 months since the initial plastic HH potato pics.


6 months is a long time for a big leak to go unacknowledged.


Expecting gw to bend over and mess their schedule for every leak is unrealistic and unreasonable


Yes, that’s exactly what I said they should do, well done!


I refer you to the well fuzzy photo of the latest SM update. That was in the wild a long time.


GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/28 13:29:31


Post by: ImAGeek


 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
As an aside, it seems GW have some new exclusive models at the LVO.

One is a Swamp Called Shaman for AOS, and there’s murmuring of a 40K one, but I can find piccies of the 40K one.

Any help?


Automatically Appended Next Post:
 ImAGeek wrote:
tneva82 wrote:
 ImAGeek wrote:
JWBS wrote:
Barely 6 months since the initial plastic HH potato pics.


6 months is a long time for a big leak to go unacknowledged.


Expecting gw to bend over and mess their schedule for every leak is unrealistic and unreasonable


Yes, that’s exactly what I said they should do, well done!


I refer you to the well fuzzy photo of the latest SM update. That was in the wild a long time.


I think there’s a bit of a difference between a super fuzzy photo of one model for a faction that gets a release every other week, to pretty clear photos of a huge box for a system that is honestly crying out for some better support, but yeah. And it’s not that I really expect them to do anything about it, but it’s understandable that HH fans are gonna get worked up for every preview and be disappointed by each one until they acknowledge it.

I think I saw someone mention that the 40k model would be available today at LVO.


GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/28 14:03:41


Post by: Voss


 H.B.M.C. wrote:
 Overread wrote:
Or perhaps this is just the teaser and if the Killteam box is that close they will release the rest of the info soon?
There really is no excuse you won't make for them, is there?

It was (yet another) underwhelming preview, filled with things that we've either already seen before, things we already knew about (even if we hadn't seen the entire mini), and "teasers" for things they aren't revealing right now.


They managed to sneak underneath my low expectations. Well done, I guess.


I think the animations get me the most. Those cost more money than just showing pics of the models, so they're a pure expense whose only purpose is to be inherently disappointing.


GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/28 14:06:24


Post by: silverstu


Well the Corsair looks amazing- guessing the full squad will be revealed on Monday as the last Path of the Preview. If there are loads of heads and accessories could be a very fun kit, especially for bashing with the other new kits like the guardians and bikers. A new Yriel/HQ would be cool I the future.
The Shining Spear kit looks gorgeous too- very impressive.
A bit gutted that the rumour engine wheel pi is likely for the Ash Wastes rather than squats - but it does leave the door open for some interesting Squat vehicles in the future.
Not really surprised at the volume of reveals - there will be another in March no doubt.


GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/28 14:10:44


Post by: No wolves on Fenris


 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
As an aside, it seems GW have some new exclusive models at the LVO.

One is a Swamp Called Shaman for AOS, and there’s murmuring of a 40K one, but I can find piccies of the 40K one.

Any help?


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 ImAGeek wrote:
tneva82 wrote:
 ImAGeek wrote:
JWBS wrote:
Barely 6 months since the initial plastic HH potato pics.


6 months is a long time for a big leak to go unacknowledged.


Expecting gw to bend over and mess their schedule for every leak is unrealistic and unreasonable


Yes, that’s exactly what I said they should do, well done!


I refer you to the well fuzzy photo of the latest SM update. That was in the wild a long time.


Where was this picture. I haven’t seen it and fuzzy as it might be I’d like a look if anyone can post the link


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Post by: Voss


No wolves on Fenris wrote:


Where was this picture. I haven’t seen it and fuzzy as it might be I’d like a look if anyone can post the link

Think that's about an old pic with the primaris bikes and speeders. It was out a long time before GW copped to it.


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Post by: ImAGeek


No wolves on Fenris wrote:
 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
As an aside, it seems GW have some new exclusive models at the LVO.

One is a Swamp Called Shaman for AOS, and there’s murmuring of a 40K one, but I can find piccies of the 40K one.

Any help?


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 ImAGeek wrote:
tneva82 wrote:
 ImAGeek wrote:
JWBS wrote:
Barely 6 months since the initial plastic HH potato pics.


6 months is a long time for a big leak to go unacknowledged.


Expecting gw to bend over and mess their schedule for every leak is unrealistic and unreasonable


Yes, that’s exactly what I said they should do, well done!


I refer you to the well fuzzy photo of the latest SM update. That was in the wild a long time.


Where was this picture. I haven’t seen it and fuzzy as it might be I’d like a look if anyone can post the link


It was a really blurry pic of the Storm Speeder, nothing new.


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Post by: JWBS


So we're mostly agreed, not too Epic after all.


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Post by: GaroRobe


How long did we have to wait before we got confirmation of primaris? We had an intercessor leak and people debated for weeks whether it was a conversion or legit.


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Post by: tneva82


 ImAGeek wrote:
 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
As an aside, it seems GW have some new exclusive models at the LVO.

One is a Swamp Called Shaman for AOS, and there’s murmuring of a 40K one, but I can find piccies of the 40K one.

Any help?


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 ImAGeek wrote:
tneva82 wrote:
 ImAGeek wrote:
JWBS wrote:
Barely 6 months since the initial plastic HH potato pics.


6 months is a long time for a big leak to go unacknowledged.


So

Expecting gw to bend over and mess their schedule for every leak is unrealistic and unreasonable


Yes, that’s exactly what I said they should do, well done!


I refer you to the well fuzzy photo of the latest SM update. That was in the wild a long time.


I think there’s a bit of a difference between a super fuzzy photo of one model for a faction that gets a release every other week, to pretty clear photos of a huge box for a system that is honestly crying out for some better support, but yeah. And it’s not that I really expect them to do anything about it, but it’s understandable that HH fans are gonna get worked up for every preview and be disappointed by each one until they acknowledge it.

I think I saw someone mention that the 40k model would be available today at LVO.


So because of leak they should put news out and then for a year total silence? If you don't think they shouldn't be silent after then you expect them to hasten product release due to leak and back to unrealistic and unreasonable.

Putting news out year ahead due to leak ruining surprise for majority that ahead leaving year wait makes zero sense. Only me-me-everything-now-to-me people and noobs can expect that

As it is when they start hyping and previewing in may for july release for edition they run out of steam midway. Entire year hype on not going to work.


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Post by: chaos0xomega


JWBS wrote:
Yeah but calling that almost a year is a stretch too far.


I said "going on a year" not that its been "almost a year". "Going on a year" is an accurate statement (in that if its been 6 months and things continue this way, it will eventually reach a full year) and my go to for "it hasn't been a year yet but I know its been a really long time though I'm not quite sure how many months exactly".

So because of leak they should put news out and then for a year total silence?

Did you ever hear the tragedy of The Old World development updates? I thought not. Its not a tale the WarCom team would tell you.


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Post by: Chikout


So, do we have any idea who the corsairs are going to be up against in the next Kill team box?


GW LVO Preview Show. 27 Jan 10pm US, 28 Jan U.K. 6am @ 2022/01/28 16:02:22


Post by: The Power Cosmic


That corsair is pretty. I'll probably have to buy those.


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Post by: Theophony


Chikout wrote:
So, do we have any idea who the corsairs are going to be up against in the next Kill team box?


Hopefully it's against Necrons and called Corsairs of the Carabnebula or something. I'm sure theres no issue with any sort of Mickey Mouse organization that would take offense to that


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Post by: ImAGeek


tneva82 wrote:
Spoiler:
 ImAGeek wrote:
 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
As an aside, it seems GW have some new exclusive models at the LVO.

One is a Swamp Called Shaman for AOS, and there’s murmuring of a 40K one, but I can find piccies of the 40K one.

Any help?


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 ImAGeek wrote:
tneva82 wrote:
 ImAGeek wrote:
JWBS wrote:
Barely 6 months since the initial plastic HH potato pics.


6 months is a long time for a big leak to go unacknowledged.


So

Expecting gw to bend over and mess their schedule for every leak is unrealistic and unreasonable


Yes, that’s exactly what I said they should do, well done!


I refer you to the well fuzzy photo of the latest SM update. That was in the wild a long time.


I think there’s a bit of a difference between a super fuzzy photo of one model for a faction that gets a release every other week, to pretty clear photos of a huge box for a system that is honestly crying out for some better support, but yeah. And it’s not that I really expect them to do anything about it, but it’s understandable that HH fans are gonna get worked up for every preview and be disappointed by each one until they acknowledge it.

I think I saw someone mention that the 40k model would be available today at LVO.


So because of leak they should put news out and then for a year total silence? If you don't think they shouldn't be silent after then you expect them to hasten product release due to leak and back to unrealistic and unreasonable.

Putting news out year ahead due to leak ruining surprise for majority that ahead leaving year wait makes zero sense. Only me-me-everything-now-to-me people and noobs can expect that

As it is when they start hyping and previewing in may for july release for edition they run out of steam midway. Entire year hype on not going to work.


God you really are one of the most condescending people on this bloody forum.


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Post by: Chopstick


It's ironic these ghosts have stirrup on their crossbow, which help them reload using their foot, oops.

Maybe give them a goat foot instead, like the Bolt boy. Or a cranequin.


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Post by: NAVARRO


Chopstick wrote:
It's ironic these ghosts have stirrup on their crossbow, which help them reload using their foot, oops.

Maybe give them a goat foot instead, like the Bolt boy. Or a cranequin.




Details details its magical cool model right?
Too funny.


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Post by: Dysartes


...any sign of what the 40k event model is yet, btw?


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Post by: Lord Damocles


What have they done to my beautiful boy Ra?

I'd give him a hug to make him feel better, but I'm afraid that I'll cut myself on all that edge.


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Post by: Wha-Mu-077


Chopstick wrote:
It's ironic these ghosts have stirrup on their crossbow, which help them reload using their foot, oops.

Maybe give them a goat foot instead, like the Bolt boy. Or a cranequin.


Clearly they use their little... whispy... soul-ly tail thingies instead of feet


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Post by: ZergSmasher


Bunch of product reveals, but nothing at all for Middle-Earth.


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Post by: Voss


 ZergSmasher wrote:
Bunch of product reveals, but nothing at all for Middle-Earth.

A handful of product reveals, a couple teasers, and a list of systems they were going to preview ahead of time.


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Post by: Togusa


Dudeface wrote:
 Eldarsif wrote:
I am surprised we didn't get any reveals what books are next for 40k and AoS.


It's weird we don't know, by all accounts you'd assume it's eldar > chaos knights > chaos marines for 40k, then idoneth & fyreslayers > DoK & Nighthaunt for sigmar, but they're wonderfully none committal.


Hmmm. I wonder if there is an issue affecting shipping and production worldwide that has already historically affected releases, which in turn might make them hesitant to make any solid announcements on future products that could be delayed again???

It really is a mystery!


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Post by: gungo


 Lord Damocles wrote:
What have they done to my beautiful boy Ra?

I'd give him a hug to make him feel better, but I'm afraid that I'll cut myself on all that edge.

Maybe dual head option


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Post by: Crimson


I find it hilarious that people complain about Maugan Ra becoming too edgy... He wasn't exactly subtle before...


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Post by: Platuan4th


 Dysartes wrote:
...any sign of what the 40k event model is yet, btw?


This. Did it not pop up after all or are people there suddenly shy with taking pictures?


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Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured


folk mentioning it seem to be saying tomorrow (as it wasn't on sale today)


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Post by: NinthMusketeer


tneva82 wrote:
Aaand it began. Absolutely the BEST part of previews. The post-preview whining. Keep it up guys! You are hilarious Best comedy in the world.
I dunno, the whining about for things have too much magic in TOW/Total War Warhammer is pretty good...


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Post by: GaroRobe


 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
folk mentioning it seem to be saying tomorrow (as it wasn't on sale today)


If there is a 40k model, I imagine at the very least they'll show off both on the warcom site for New Model Monday.

Unrelated, it's weird they mention Ka'Bandha is also in AOS, since the model is clearly 30k inspired, since it has a mk iv marine on the base and a helmet on his crotch chain. It's not like you could plop him down in AOS easily


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Post by: Geifer


 Crimson wrote:
I find it hilarious that people complain about Maugan Ra becoming too edgy... He wasn't exactly subtle before...


The model isn't without problems even if you leave aside that it's a significantly different silhouette from something people have looked at for the better part of three decades.

For an Eldar his cloak is heavily tattered, whereas the old one managed to keep his tabard pristine. Similarly, the scythe has GW's new holey bone sculpting style. While not actually damaged, it simply looks shabbier than the old, smoothly crafted scythe.

The model may have lost much of its bulk (I want to wait for 360s before I make up my mind on this, but the picture in the reveal article hints at it). This may be an improvement in principle, given proportions tend to be better these days than they were back then and a result of that is that models are slimmer than the ones they replace. But in case of Maugan Ra who has been defined by his uncharacteristic bulk, which is to say uncharacteristic for an Eldar rather than the widespread bulkier appearance models from the time experienced, you have to take great care that the improved sculpting and casting technology doesn't lose this aspect of the model. Which, I think, may have happened to the new one.

The coat is not a good addition. Before you had Maugan Ra as the as you rightly say very obvious aspect of death, that was still visibly built around normal Eldar armor. With the cloak hiding way more of the Eldar underneath it, it loses much of the appearance of an aspect warrior and thus something characteristically Eldar in favor of becoming a much more generic grim reaper.

The pose of the new one manages to spread his legs even wider than the old one, which is quite a feat given the old one is from a time when that pose was elevated to an art form. The new stance is so wide that it moves away even further from what we'd consider a natural look and relies on tactical debris so as not to look completely ridiculous.

I think with how far up the Maugetar is raised, in combination with the pose and the cloak the new model looks like a cosplayer posing for a photo. If you looked at the less exaggerated old model and got from it that Maugan Ra means business, in the sense that he's a serious warrior who adopted the aspect of death to terrify his enemies, in my opinion it's not unjustified to attribute undue edginess to the new model based on the changes listed above.

Also the paintjob doesn't help, but that's not a fault of the model.


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Post by: Dudeface


 Togusa wrote:
Dudeface wrote:
 Eldarsif wrote:
I am surprised we didn't get any reveals what books are next for 40k and AoS.


It's weird we don't know, by all accounts you'd assume it's eldar > chaos knights > chaos marines for 40k, then idoneth & fyreslayers > DoK & Nighthaunt for sigmar, but they're wonderfully none committal.


Hmmm. I wonder if there is an issue affecting shipping and production worldwide that has already historically affected releases, which in turn might make them hesitant to make any solid announcements on future products that could be delayed again???

It really is a mystery!


Oh noes I'm being made out to look stupid because of global pandemics and shipping problems whilst ignoring that unless they release books, those new models they have ready and preview simple can't be sold due to not having rules!

Almost like their entire business model requires them to get the books out and to tell us when. But of course, covid and suez canal related dramas are to blame rather than a reliance on an outdated roadmap and release process.

But don't let that stop you trying to belittle me.


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Post by: Dysartes


 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
folk mentioning it seem to be saying tomorrow (as it wasn't on sale today)

I thought they'd initially said it wasn't available on the Thursday, but was going to be on the Friday?

Might have the wrong days there, though - flaming timezones...


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Post by: Platuan4th


 Dysartes wrote:
 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
folk mentioning it seem to be saying tomorrow (as it wasn't on sale today)

I thought they'd initially said it wasn't available on the Thursday, but was going to be on the Friday?

Might have the wrong days there, though - flaming timezones...


Reports from today say there is no new 40K model.


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Post by: Dysartes


Huh - good to see communication is as good as ever there, then, if people had been told there was going to be one and there isn't.


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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


I only heard speculation, no better than third hand, there was to be a 40K one.


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Post by: Irbis


 Geifer wrote:
The coat is not a good addition. Before you had Maugan Ra as the as you rightly say very obvious aspect of death, that was still visibly built around normal Eldar armor. With the cloak hiding way more of the Eldar underneath it, it loses much of the appearance of an aspect warrior and thus something characteristically Eldar in favor of becoming a much more generic grim reaper.

He wasn't 'obvious aspect of death' before. He looked like elf cosplaying SM chaplain. He actually looks like grim reaper now thanks to robe.

As for him being more 'generic', isn't that actually supported by fluff? From Lexicanum: During the War in Heaven, Khaine fought and defeated the Nightbringer, shattering his necrodermis, although the resulting metal shards pierced his flesh, tainting his form with "the Aspect of the Reaper." So, yeah, Aspect warrior trying to evoke Khaine's reaper look would necessarily partially look like Nightbringer, who has hood and tattered robes.


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Post by: JSG


I think the main problem is that people were about twelve when they first saw the original. Nothing's ever going to be that cool again.


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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


I really like the new Maugan Ra. I get what people are saying about the legs being a bit too akimbo, but I find the cloak adds a sinister air to the whole thing.


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Post by: jojo_monkey_boy


 Irbis wrote:
 Geifer wrote:
Spoiler:
The coat is not a good addition. Before you had Maugan Ra as the as you rightly say very obvious aspect of death, that was still visibly built around normal Eldar armor. With the cloak hiding way more of the Eldar underneath it, it loses much of the appearance of an aspect warrior and thus something characteristically Eldar in favor of becoming a much more generic grim reaper.

He wasn't 'obvious aspect of death' before. He looked like elf cosplaying SM chaplain. He actually looks like grim reaper now thanks to robe.

As for him being more 'generic', isn't that actually supported by fluff? From Lexicanum: During the War in Heaven, Khaine fought and defeated the Nightbringer, shattering his necrodermis, although the resulting metal shards pierced his flesh, tainting his form with "the Aspect of the Reaper." So, yeah, Aspect warrior trying to evoke Khaine's reaper look would necessarily partially look like Nightbringer, who has hood and tattered robes.


The guy was dressed head to toe in skulls and wielding a giant scythe. I think he was adequately forboding as an spect of death. All they've done is added a frayed robe with hood.

And frankly, I wouldn't even mind the addition of a robe if it wasn't frayed. It clashes so heavily with the rest of the army. Everything else is clean and defined. The frayed edge of his robe clashes with the aethetic and looks out of place. As I eluded to earlier in the thread, it's like he is trying to stand out from the army as "not like those other guys, a true rebel."

It's dumb.



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Post by: NAVARRO


 jojo_monkey_boy wrote:
 Irbis wrote:
 Geifer wrote:
Spoiler:
The coat is not a good addition. Before you had Maugan Ra as the as you rightly say very obvious aspect of death, that was still visibly built around normal Eldar armor. With the cloak hiding way more of the Eldar underneath it, it loses much of the appearance of an aspect warrior and thus something characteristically Eldar in favor of becoming a much more generic grim reaper.

He wasn't 'obvious aspect of death' before. He looked like elf cosplaying SM chaplain. He actually looks like grim reaper now thanks to robe.

As for him being more 'generic', isn't that actually supported by fluff? From Lexicanum: During the War in Heaven, Khaine fought and defeated the Nightbringer, shattering his necrodermis, although the resulting metal shards pierced his flesh, tainting his form with "the Aspect of the Reaper." So, yeah, Aspect warrior trying to evoke Khaine's reaper look would necessarily partially look like Nightbringer, who has hood and tattered robes.


The guy was dressed head to toe in skulls and wielding a giant scythe. I think he was adequately forboding as an spect of death. All they've done is added a frayed robe with hood.

And frankly, I wouldn't even mind the addition of a robe if it wasn't frayed. It clashes so heavily with the rest of the army. Everything else is clean and defined. The frayed edge of his robe clashes with the aethetic and looks out of place. As I eluded to earlier in the thread, it's like he is trying to stand out from the army as "not like those other guys, a true rebel."

It's dumb.



I wonder how the legs are sculpted beneath the robe. If they are independently sculpted then taking of the cape and sculpting a new not frayed version would be easier.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
At this point now we are talking about extensive sculpting to make this one work.

Reposing, new clothes, new head, smaller weapon and another base.


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Post by: jojo_monkey_boy


I'm sure a third party 3D scuptor will make something suitable.


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Post by: JSG


 jojo_monkey_boy wrote:
 Irbis wrote:
 Geifer wrote:
Spoiler:
The coat is not a good addition. Before you had Maugan Ra as the as you rightly say very obvious aspect of death, that was still visibly built around normal Eldar armor. With the cloak hiding way more of the Eldar underneath it, it loses much of the appearance of an aspect warrior and thus something characteristically Eldar in favor of becoming a much more generic grim reaper.

He wasn't 'obvious aspect of death' before. He looked like elf cosplaying SM chaplain. He actually looks like grim reaper now thanks to robe.

As for him being more 'generic', isn't that actually supported by fluff? From Lexicanum: During the War in Heaven, Khaine fought and defeated the Nightbringer, shattering his necrodermis, although the resulting metal shards pierced his flesh, tainting his form with "the Aspect of the Reaper." So, yeah, Aspect warrior trying to evoke Khaine's reaper look would necessarily partially look like Nightbringer, who has hood and tattered robes.


The guy was dressed head to toe in skulls and wielding a giant scythe. I think he was adequately forboding as an spect of death. All they've done is added a frayed robe with hood.

And frankly, I wouldn't even mind the addition of a robe if it wasn't frayed. It clashes so heavily with the rest of the army. Everything else is clean and defined. The frayed edge of his robe clashes with the aethetic and looks out of place. As I eluded to earlier in the thread, it's like he is trying to stand out from the army as "not like those other guys, a true rebel."

It's dumb.



It fits with his lore as they explained on the stream.


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Post by: jojo_monkey_boy


JSG wrote:
It fits with his lore as they explained on the stream.


I avoid watching their streams as they are so drawn out and generally vapid. What did they say?

I'm going to guess that it's because he's been in the eye for so long fighting chaos that he can't get a new robe? If so, that's a pretty weak explanation when he can now randomly show up at any craftworld to join in battles.