If two forces were to join in the warhammer 40k universe, who would they be?
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sorry, above

There is no "Other" option, so I decided not to vote. I would've voted space marines and Tau, seeing as they have allied in the past.

Well, I guess it would be all up to who they were fighting against in the first place. If the Marines and Orks were scrapping on a planet and the 'Nids arrived, they would probably join forces just to try and survive. *gives it some thought*......In that case my answer is Marines and Orks!

how many do i get to choose? cause there is historically more than one option in the fluff.

You left out Necrons and Blood Angels!

Their bromance means that in the extra Far distant Future only those 2 will survive and sit around for a nice spot of tea.

Eldar and tau are the most likely; but only if the tau empire were to willingly allow the Eldar to "do their thing", and the Eldar themselves realize that their best bet is to join the tau collective.

Eldar+Tau= A much more Far-ranging Tau Empire(gaining access to the webway) and an acceptance of most other races into the empire(Only Chaos, orks, and Nids would not even be asked to join; and if the Imperium would let go of it's xenophobia it could also ally).

Eldar, tau and IoM would make an excellent set of allies vs necrons, nids, and Chaos with the orks just becoming mercenaries in the Galactic War(after all orks is made fer fightin').

Necrons and Nids won't join anyone.
Orks may join temporary....
Demons, CSM and DE are the worst backstabbers...
The common joint forces may be Eldar, IoM, Tau. They could at least try to keep an agreement until the fight is over.

Eldar , Imperium Tau alliance

seems to be the ONLY possible lasting alliance(lasting means till the other side dies horribly, and with little hiccups from the alliance)

Eldar and Tau are the most manipulative species and each one is cockey enough to believe they are controlling the other in an aliance of any kind.

I voted eldar and space marines but I feel it would only last intill it became an inconvinance. Then the space marines would kill them and we all know thats how it would go.

eldar and tau! duh! i can see why some would say eldar and SM but the space marines and eldar have had some rocky relationships, whereas the tau are much more receptive to allies.

No other, but Inquisition and Eldar. Tyranids are never going to ally to anything. I like the SM and CSM option, basically more traitors or the Chaos Primarchs really are beginning to regret it!

I have read a few things where renegades turn good again in return for repentance etc but also i have read that the Blood axe orks are basically mercenaries who are willing to work for anyone in turn for weapons which they then use of their former employers.

I think tau and eldar because relatively speaking they are the least bat**** insane of all the factions.

Oh, no, Tau are also guano insane. If you think for an instant they're any less fanatic about "the greater good" than the Imperium is about the Imperial Creed, you don't know the faction very well

Also, why "Imperial Guard" and Eldar?

Why not just "Imperium" and Eldar? I mean Imperial Guard just do what they're told. It's the leaders of the Imperium that tell them what to do, and those are the governors, the heads of the Munitorum, the High Lords, and Inquisitors.

Perhaps you have a loose definition of sanity, because I'm sure as hell going to trust the guy preaching unity rather than, "BURN THE HERETIC! KILL THE MUTANT! PURGE THE UNCLEAN!"

Sure both are fanatical but at least the tau direct their zeal into less violent practices

Yeah Tau will let entire worlds die "For thegreater good" at least the Imperium has the decency not to pretend.

Well there's no heresy in the tau empire at least

Farsight?

That's treason

asimo77 wrote:That's treason

Still counts.
Anyway heresy is relative.

I'm not sure what that means, a religion describes X,Y, Z as heresy under its doctrine and there you go. Or conversely it tenets are A,B,C and defying them is heresy.

Because what's heresy to one section of the Imperium at one side of the galaxy may not be heresy to another at the other side. There are basic tenets, yes, but the specifics are often down to each individual world.

asimo77 wrote:I'm not sure what that means, a religion describes X,Y, Z as heresy under its doctrine and there you go. Or conversely it tenets are A,B,C and defying them is heresy.

Tau "Greater good" tenets:
Do what the Etherals tell you
Farsight betrayed that therefore according to your own definition of heresy he is a heretic although he wouldn't say so and neither would Eldar for instance but the rest of the Tau empire says he is. (that's what i meant about heresy being relative)

Fair enough, I guess my point is that it's easier to "do what the ethereals say" and not get murdered than do what the IoM wants. Even if you are an upstanding citizen/soldier of the IoM you'll probably end up dead anyway.

asimo77 wrote:Fair enough, I guess my point is that it's easier to "do what the ethereals say" and not get murdered than do what the IoM wants. Even if you are an upstanding citizen/soldier of the IoM you'll probably end up dead anyway.

Ahh well that's a fault of the general environment rather than the fault of the governing body... although it wouldn't hurt if the IoM wasn't so damn corrupt.

Tau and eldar are both races that will put differences aside to defeat a common enemy, so they would probably team up.

Tyranids and Daemons would be pretty hard, since the Shadow in the Warp effectively nullifies daemons in the physical plain.

What happens when a tyranid "eats" a daemon anyway? Also do daemons have souls to munch on when fighting nids?

Tyranid specifically avoid chaos taints

Tyranid is probably soulless, they have exactly one warp presence

Eldar and T'au.

the only Alliance that would last longer then a few weeks.



the IoM would never truly ally with any other faction. when they do cooperate it is usually nothing more then 2 forces ignoring 1 force to the exclusion of the other. once the bigger threat is gone they will begin to shoot again.

asimo77 wrote:What happens when a tyranid "eats" a daemon anyway? Also do daemons have souls to munch on when fighting nids?

The way I've always visualised it, is while they are solid, they aren't real. When they 'die', they disappear. Kind of like how demons disappeared in Doom 3. There wouldn't be anything for the Tyranids to 'eat'.

Personally I think Eldar and Tau would be the most likely. Whilst the Tau dont neccessarily approve of the Eldar and their 'empire'( if it can be eve called an empire anymore..), they do see the goodness in the race due to the different paths the eldar follow. Consequently there are alot elss questionable characters in the eldar than other races. Whilst some of their actions could be considered to be selfish, they are no worse than what others races would do. For instance the imperium would value the life of a man over that of any other race just as the eldar value their own races lives over that of others. The eldar dont appear to see the tau as bad either which is probably due to their purity as they are untainetd by the warp?

Eldar and Tau would seem more likely than most as they don't really have anything the other really wants or immediate hostile intent.

Then again, wouldn't take too long for some smug fish ead to tell the eldar to sign up to the new and glorious 'great leap outwards' tau expansion and how they could 'reinvigorate your ancient and dying culture, which has so unfortunately failed from what we have seen, by becoming a part of the Tau empire, all that has to happen is your 'far-seer' kneels in service to the Ethereal over there and puts on this 'communication helmet'...

At which point the thin veneer of politeness the pansy spaceelfs were affording this piteous, primitive and naive race disappears and out come the D cannons... You have to remember, the tau have evolved from cave dwelling troglodytes to a space faring race within eldar living memory!

Tau and Eldar for sure. As I recall Eldrad Ulthran actually kept an eye out for the tau cuz he figured they were some of the few decent folks left in the galaxy. Basically as long as the Tau are beneficial to have around, the Eldar will refrain from melting their brains.

Eldar and Tau, though I'd rather see Eldar and Imperium. Eldar becoming a protectorate species of the Imperium and the two joining forces to close the Eye of Terror. Would make for an epic story.

Imperial Guard and Eldar.

Then the Guardsmen leave the Eldar to their fate of doom!

Probably , they (IoM and Eldar) are two faction that have the same approximate response to chaos

"kill kill kill kill kill kill kill"

I reckon necrons and nids because neither have anything to gain from killing the other.

Sure they do. If 'nids eat all life, the C'tan won't have any life to feed off of.

Melissia wrote:Sure they do. If 'nids eat all life, the C'tan won't have any life to feed off of.

really? REALLY?? um...they would eat the nids!!! duh!

necrongod wrote:

Melissia wrote:Sure they do. If 'nids eat all life, the C'tan won't have any life to feed off of.

really? REALLY?? um...they would eat the nids!!! duh!

Firstly that's a bit rude
And secondly the C'tan need to eat souls and the 'nids don't have seperate souls but one big one (The Hive mind)

purplefood wrote:

necrongod wrote:

Melissia wrote:Sure they do. If 'nids eat all life, the C'tan won't have any life to feed off of.

really? REALLY?? um...they would eat the nids!!! duh!

Firstly that's a bit rude
And secondly the C'tan need to eat souls and the 'nids don't have seperate souls but one big one (The Hive mind)

firstly , sorry

secondly im pretty sure the c'tan dont. before they met the necrontyr they feasted on stars right?

necrongod wrote:

purplefood wrote:

necrongod wrote:

Melissia wrote:Sure they do. If 'nids eat all life, the C'tan won't have any life to feed off of.

really? REALLY?? um...they would eat the nids!!! duh!

Firstly that's a bit rude
And secondly the C'tan need to eat souls and the 'nids don't have seperate souls but one big one (The Hive mind)

firstly , sorry

secondly im pretty sure the c'tan dont. before they met the necrontyr they feasted on stars right?

Yeah apparently stars have souls...
I'm sorry i can't remember where i read it but there was something saying that everything has a soul which is why the 'nids were so freaky.

Oh feth all you guys. Chaos and imperial marines working grudgingly together to try and protect one thing they both need against overwhelming odds sounds like the most bad ass thing ever.

Eventually they start throwing each other bolter rounds, not checking over their back, and by the end they both sail off as allies working for humanity, or pulls apart at the seam and half heartedly fights a withdraw before flying off.

Orks and Chaos, assuming you mean a temporary sort of thing (joining forces for one battle, say). Eldar and Tau if we're talking a more permanent alliance (actually, that would almost certainly never work out; however, the chances of it working out are better than they are for pretty much any other match up).


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-Loki- wrote:The way I've always visualised it, is while they are solid, they aren't real. When they 'die', they disappear. Kind of like how demons disappeared in Doom 3. There wouldn't be anything for the Tyranids to 'eat'.

I would say this theory is supported by the old rules for Daemonic Instability.

purplefood wrote:

necrongod wrote:

purplefood wrote:

necrongod wrote:

Melissia wrote:Sure they do. If 'nids eat all life, the C'tan won't have any life to feed off of.

really? REALLY?? um...they would eat the nids!!! duh!

Firstly that's a bit rude
And secondly the C'tan need to eat souls and the 'nids don't have seperate souls but one big one (The Hive mind)

firstly , sorry

secondly im pretty sure the c'tan dont. before they met the necrontyr they feasted on stars right?

Yeah apparently stars have souls...
I'm sorry i can't remember where i read it but there was something saying that everything has a soul which is why the 'nids were so freaky.

I think they are only referenced as eating "lifeforce" which, like souls, is fairly ambigous; the latter is at least somewhat established in the lore. For all I know liforce could be bio-electrical signals which would explain why sentient beings are so yummy. Honestly though who knows what gives the C'tan energy :radiation, magnetic fields, other weird physics particles/fields/thingies, yogurt. The list goes on but I'd imagine whatever it is it wouldn't have much to do with the warp since the C'tan are so anti-warp, plus then they'd just be daemons.

Eldar and orks and marine...Watch the last stand of DoW trailers

Necron and Tau, they came togeather in Dark Crusade.

While I agree that necrons and tau did come together in dark crusade, I submit to you that tau and necrons also came together in dark crusade

Ennkay wrote:While I agree that necrons and tau did come together in dark crusade, I submit to you that tau and necrons also came together in dark crusade

And as such, another DARgument begins~!

How abo7ut thowse thexian elites and the barghesti then eh... EH?

Necrons and tyranids would lilely not ally. If the tyranids could have some purpose for the necrons then why is it that the necrons actually stopped killing blood angels and targetted tyranids instead? Theres also the little factor that whereever a tomb world seems to be the tendrils of the hive fleets mysterious navigate away from them? I reckon its because tyranids would devour the galaxy and even if the C'tan could feed on them, the tyranids would eventually leave the galaxy and go onto the next populated one. Its the whole reason why tyranids are in our galaxy.

Ork/Eldar and Orks/Guard HAVE allied in the past with the former being more a puppetmaster activity on the eldar side.

Tau and Necrons tried to team up in the Tyranid Codex. It didn't end well.

The correct answer is Tau and Necrons.

Put a period on that!

Monster Rain wrote:The correct answer is Tau and Necrons.

Put a period on that!

Tau and Necrons did indeed 'team up' against tyranids and would appear to be a 'correct' answer. The only problem with it is that after the Necrons helped the tau, they slaughtered them too. Just for good measure.

Eldar/Tau or Eldar/IOM or Tau/IOM duh!

Necrons, Eldar, and Imperium allied during the 13th Black Crusade.

Eldar and Dark Eldar ally to defend exodite worlds.

Eldar and Imperium allied during the 13th Black Crusade, Necrons just killed some stuff that happened to also be beneficial to the Imperium in doing so if the Imperium had tried to stop the Necrons they would have opened fire.

Dark Eldar and Chaos marines. I guess cause they like causing death and pain, but It depends on the Chaos legion and Dark Eldar Kabal/Wych cult.

Minaith1989 wrote:

Monster Rain wrote:The correct answer is Tau and Necrons.

Put a period on that!

Tau and Necrons did indeed 'team up' against tyranids and would appear to be a 'correct' answer. The only problem with it is that after the Necrons helped the tau, they slaughtered them too. Just for good measure.

Gotta break a few eggs to make an omelet, brother.

Daemons and Dark Eldar. Eldar and Tau good second best, but remember, the dark eldar CREATED Slaanesh. They could totally team up for old time's sake.

..... Why does everyone think that any eldar actually like slaneesh?
even dark eldars?
the prospect of your soul being eaten doesn't sound that good

Retrias wrote:..... Why does everyone think that any eldar actually like slaneesh?
even dark eldars?
the prospect of your soul being eaten doesn't sound that good

What if you spent a long time preparing your soul, and garnished it with the finest ingredients?

Then your feelings might be hurt if it doesn't get eaten!

Tau and Eldar. Perfect.

Monster Rain wrote:

Retrias wrote:..... Why does everyone think that any eldar actually like slaneesh?
even dark eldars?
the prospect of your soul being eaten doesn't sound that good

What if you spent a long time preparing your soul, and garnished it with the finest ingredients?

Then your feelings might be hurt if it doesn't get eaten!

hmm yes that is on the other matter entirely
but surely they know the benefit of giving slaneesh other people soul?

Honestly I can't believe Necrons and Tau don't have their own codex already.

I'm sorry but i really cant see daemons/chaos and dark eldar teaming up. Just because they both delight in pain doesnt mean they have a common cause. Eldar souls are supposed to be the most desirable souls for chaos to devour because they are usually the brightest in the warp. Dark eldar would do their best to avoid such a fate. Theres also the act that slaanesh destroyed the old eldar empire with its birth cries and therefore not only annihilated what would become the Eldar we know today but also what would become known as the dark eldar.

Guys, Imp Guard and Spacemarines join eachother all the tame,

Though technically Space Marines are often so autonomous and resistant to being given orders by Imperial authorities that they pretty much are separate, they're still considered Imperial.

Necrons and Tau seems waaaaay more likely than Eldar and Tau. They both share an anti warp powers outlook and like technology.

They even look similar as they don't have noses.

Yes, but the Necrons view all life as nothing more than food for the C'tan, while Tau think life is good as long as you live by the Greater Good (which does not involve being eaten by C'tan).

Good point. Opposites attract though......

So it's a nose thing then, or lack thereof.

I'm shocked that necrons and tau are only in 2nd place in the poll. It seems some sort of treachery is afoot boosting up the results of eldar and tau....

Either that or people actually know the fluff too well.

Whoever keeps saying necron and tau..... stop it.

You have on one side the Necron who hate ALL life and have no reason of really means to team up with anyone.

and on the other tau really the only bright happy race in the 41st millenium.

The 2 dont mix! What do they have in common? If anything the tau were engineered as the perfect food for the C'tan as they are very bright smart race BUT HAVE ALMOST NO WARP SIGNATURE!

Is it because they are both technologically advanced? Necron tech involves ancient physics bending weapons and technology, while tau technology looks like someone was trying to make gundams with legos.

idk I just disagree with with that team being so high on the poll, so many over aliences are far more likely.

Nightbringer shouldn't have spent his yearly two week break on the Tau Homeworld, poor fella's never been the same since.




Besides, Tau are introducing new front line troops in their next codex.



Thats something not even those steel hearted Necrons could fail to notice.



Fellas signed a peace treaty in five seconds flat.

Imperium and Tau. I know its not on there. but none of those factions are likely to join each other. Some of them (example eldar) are likely to fight with the same temporary purpose. but that isnt allying.


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Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:Nightbringer shouldn't have spent his yearly two week break on the Tau Homeworld, poor fella's never been the same since.




Besides, Tau are introducing new front line troops in their next codex.



Thats something not even those steel hearted Necrons could fail to notice.



Fellas signed a peace treaty in five seconds flat.

sexy tau ftw

Now a Necron warrior piloting a Crisis suit, that's badass. Almost as badass as a Tau Tomb Spider Rodeo.

As the famous Tau proverb goes: no nose is good news.

Laughing God wrote:
idk I just disagree with with that team being so high on the poll, so many over aliences are far more likely.

like Blood Angels and Necrons? lol

Melissia wrote:Either that or people actually know the fluff too well.

Memorizing the fluff by rote is one thing, reading it at a deeper level and making connections is quite another. The similarities between Tau and Necrons are philosophically similar if you compare their attitudes on certain issues, and even their appearance in some cases.

For example, if you knew your fluff as well as you're indicating, you'd remember the part about the C'Tan loving to manipulate the living and be worshiped by them.

Neither if the two races have head hair either.

Same build, noses , hairlessness and sheepish grin. Definite conection there as I'm sure the Darwinists out there would agree.

Let us examine the similarities between the tau and the necrons:

Necrons

Likes: shooting their guns, moving, being made out of metal, anime

dislikes: rain, space marines, and soap operas

Tau

Likes: shooting their guns, moving, being made out of fishes, anime

dislikes: space marines, dead ethereal, mondays, soap operas

I'd say that based on the fluff the tau and the necrons would come and fight on the same side, as they were both released in dark crusade

The mistake made here is that Necrons refute to ally with anyone......

Plus Necrons won't like anime.
As, they only serve. No recreation time granted.

Tau, may have some spare time for their own interests. Not unlikely to view a lot of soap operas ( with lots of greater good obviously )..

So Necrons fight 24/24 whilst Tau make a 'tactical withdrawal' rather often. Doesn't seem to be a compatible pair to me.

Necrons don't ally with anyone, they just prioritize certain targets over other certain targets depending on which one is more dangerous.


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Monster Rain wrote:Memorizing the fluff by rote is one thing, reading it at a deeper level and making connections is quite another.

I agree entirely, and that is why you are wrong in stating Necrons would ally with Tau.

The people in this thread are looking at the merely superficial when they compare the two factions. Understanding Necrons on a deeper level would lead you to flat out dismiss the alliance between Tau and Necrons.

The idea that the Necrons/C'tan might subdue the tau and force them into servitude is an entirely different idea. That one is possible. But ALLY? Hell no.

Monster Rain wrote: The similarities between Tau and Necrons are philosophically similar if you compare their attitudes on certain issues,

I wasn't aware Tau had a policy of "destroy all life" policy. Since that's the only bullet on the Necrons agenda, I'd think the any allies of theirs would have to get on board with it.

I think the Tau would destroy all life apart from them from the greater good if they couldn't find another way or had more powerful rail guns (gauze rail?).

Clearly Tau are Necrons wearing blue latex body gloves and masks anyway. A 40k Scooby Doo in many respects.

Melissia wrote:Necrons don't ally with anyone, they just prioritize certain targets over other certain targets depending on which one is more dangerous.


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Monster Rain wrote:Memorizing the fluff by rote is one thing, reading it at a deeper level and making connections is quite another.

I agree entirely, and that is why you are wrong in stating Necrons would ally with Tau.

The people in this thread are looking at the merely superficial when they compare the two factions. Understanding Necrons on a deeper level would lead you to flat out dismiss the alliance between Tau and Necrons.

The idea that the Necrons/C'tan might subdue the tau and force them into servitude is an entirely different idea. That one is possible. But ALLY? Hell no.

Semantics. Fighting on the same side is what we're talking about, not the political undertones of such a situation. Then there's the possibility they aren't subdued so much as... wait for it... Deceived?

DarknessEternal wrote:

Monster Rain wrote: The similarities between Tau and Necrons are philosophically similar if you compare their attitudes on certain issues,

I wasn't aware Tau had a policy of "destroy all life" policy. Since that's the only bullet on the Necrons agenda, I'd think the any allies of theirs would have to get on board with it.

It's not the only bullet on the Necrons' agenda, thank you kindly. And try disagreeing with the Greater Good and see how friendly those Tau are.

"Fighting on the same side" does not equal to allying. Nor does forced slavery equal to an alliance.

Melissia wrote:"Fighting on the same side" does not equal to allying. Nor does forced slavery equal to an alliance.

Not according to this.


al·li·ance
   /əˈlaɪəns/ Show Spelled[uh-lahy-uhns] Show IPA
–noun
1.
the act of allying or state of being allied.
2.
a formal agreement or treaty between two or more nations to cooperate for specific purposes.
3.
a merging of efforts or interests by persons, families, states, or organizations: an alliance between church and state.
4.
the persons or entities so allied.
5.
marriage or the relationship created by marriage between the families of the bride and bridegroom.
6.
correspondence in basic characteristics; affinity: the alliance between logic and metaphysics.

And boom goes the dynamite.

Melissia wrote:"Fighting on the same side" does not equal to allying. Nor does forced slavery equal to an alliance.

Agreed. However I still think there's something to the similarities they share.

I can picture them sitting in a bar after many years of campaigning together against the rest if the galaxy. It would be reminisent of Jay and Silent Bob 'chatting'. The Necron being Silent Bob obviously.

Laughing God wrote:Whoever keeps saying necron and tau..... stop it.

You have on one side the Necron who hate ALL life and have no reason of really means to team up with anyone.

and on the other tau really the only bright happy race in the 41st millenium.

The 2 dont mix! What do they have in common? If anything the tau were engineered as the perfect food for the C'tan as they are very bright smart race BUT HAVE ALMOST NO WARP SIGNATURE!

Who's to say the Ethereal Class couldn't come up with a way of 'controlling' them similar to Vespids (who are considered allies of the Tau) or that the Tau could not develop a technology to free the Necrontyr from the C'tan. Both races hate psychic powers, maybe they've joined together to make a "Muggle-Alliance"

Either way, there's gotta be some justification for why they would join forces, if not then it makes no sense that they came together in Dawn of War...

It seems to me that Eldar and T'au (as they would both probably honour such an alliance, unlike the other factions) are the most likely occurrence, given the fluff and character of the two races. there might be some friction there, though, due to their conflicting ideologies.

Gorskar.da.Lost wrote:It seems to me that Eldar and T'au (as they would both probably honour such an alliance, unlike the other factions) are the most likely occurrence, given the fluff and character of the two races. there might be some friction there, though, due to their conflicting ideologies.

Sorry , but I have to strongly disagree. If the Eldar think that humans are a young upstart race then Tau are below them. At least humans have a similar connection to the warp in terms of the whole psychic thingy.

And being an Eldar fanboy you might as well have spat on my gem stone if your going to spread that Mon'keigh silliness.

Also Eldar aren't muggles

Vet Sgt Ezekiel wrote:

Gorskar.da.Lost wrote:It seems to me that Eldar and T'au (as they would both probably honour such an alliance, unlike the other factions) are the most likely occurrence, given the fluff and character of the two races. there might be some friction there, though, due to their conflicting ideologies.

Sorry , but I have to strongly disagree. If the Eldar think that humans are a young upstart race then Tau are below them. At least humans have a similar connection to the warp in terms of the whole psychic thingy.

And being an Eldar fanboy you might as well have spat on my gem stone if your going to spread that Mon'keigh silliness.

Well, compared to say, Orks and the Imperium, I thought that Eldar/T'au would be most likely. I didn't say they'd be the best of friends; I don't expect to see Eldrad popping round for a quick chat and a cup of tea with Commander Farsight. They'd probably mistrust each other a great deal, it's just that both sides are pragmatic and therefore more likely to honour an alliance when necessary than the other factions.

Monster Rain wrote:

DarknessEternal wrote:

Monster Rain wrote: The similarities between Tau and Necrons are philosophically similar if you compare their attitudes on certain issues,

I wasn't aware Tau had a policy of "destroy all life" policy. Since that's the only bullet on the Necrons agenda, I'd think the any allies of theirs would have to get on board with it.

It's not the only bullet on the Necrons' agenda, thank you kindly. And try disagreeing with the Greater Good and see how friendly those Tau are.

Yes, it is. The Necrons want all life burned away. It is their only goal. It is why they went to sleep after subjugating the galaxy the first time; to wait for all current life to die out so it would start over without the warp.

No one said Tau were friendly, but "For the Greater Good or else" is a damn sight friendlier than the unflinching advance of cold murder that is the Necrons.

DarknessEternal wrote:

Monster Rain wrote:

DarknessEternal wrote:

Monster Rain wrote: The similarities between Tau and Necrons are philosophically similar if you compare their attitudes on certain issues,

I wasn't aware Tau had a policy of "destroy all life" policy. Since that's the only bullet on the Necrons agenda, I'd think the any allies of theirs would have to get on board with it.

It's not the only bullet on the Necrons' agenda, thank you kindly. And try disagreeing with the Greater Good and see how friendly those Tau are.

Yes, it is. The Necrons want all life burned away. It is their only goal.

Nope.

The Farseer's vision at the end of the Necron Codex is what the C'Tan actually have in mind. The Necrons are just a means to that end.

DarknessEternal wrote:No one said Tau were friendly, but "For the Greater Good or else" is a damn sight friendlier than the unflinching advance of cold murder that is the Necrons.

Have you actually read the Necron Codex?

Specifically, the part about the C'Tan not always wanting everyone to be killed, but leaving some to worship them?

DarknessEternal wrote:
No one said Tau were friendly, but "For the Greater Good or else" is a damn sight friendlier than the unflinching advance of cold murder that is the Necrons.

What about this?

Daemon-Archon Ren wrote:

DarknessEternal wrote:
No one said Tau were friendly, but "For the Greater Good or else" is a damn sight friendlier than the unflinching advance of cold murder that is the Necrons.

What about this?

I think that pretty much sums it up for me.

Gorskar.da.Lost wrote:

Vet Sgt Ezekiel wrote:

Gorskar.da.Lost wrote:It seems to me that Eldar and T'au (as they would both probably honour such an alliance, unlike the other factions) are the most likely occurrence, given the fluff and character of the two races. there might be some friction there, though, due to their conflicting ideologies.

Sorry , but I have to strongly disagree. If the Eldar think that humans are a young upstart race then Tau are below them. At least humans have a similar connection to the warp in terms of the whole psychic thingy.

And being an Eldar fanboy you might as well have spat on my gem stone if your going to spread that Mon'keigh silliness.

Well, compared to say, Orks and the Imperium, I thought that Eldar/T'au would be most likely. I didn't say they'd be the best of friends; I don't expect to see Eldrad popping round for a quick chat and a cup of tea with Commander Farsight. They'd probably mistrust each other a great deal, it's just that both sides are pragmatic and therefore more likely to honour an alliance when necessary than the other factions.

The Orks and Imperium are known to get on a bit through trading etc.

The Eldar are so aloof it's crazy. There's no way they'd ally with any other race in any meaningful way. Manipulate?, yes definitely. Jeez, the Tau are advanced for their racial age sure but Eldrad and the rest of his homies are having a wee smoke of the funny stuff (see the book Farseer) and having a wee snigger about how mediocre they'll always be at space travel, understanding the warp and building titans. Hell, they can't even turn their dead into war machines or make a decent looking sword.

Thus the alliance with Necrons. Fast space travel without the need for the warp, dead robot dudes and globe things to dampen the effect of the warp just in case. The Necrons being the older race will be able to supply all these things the Tau lack as well as an eternal supply of Werthers Originals.

Except the Necrons hate all life. They'd never ally with anyone, full stop (and no, I don't care what the BA codex says) if they were alive.

At least the Eldar would, if the need arose, acknowledge the necessity for temporary co-operation and then bugger off at the end of it.

Melissia wrote:Necrons don't ally with anyone, they just prioritize certain targets over other certain targets depending on which one is more dangerous.


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Monster Rain wrote:Memorizing the fluff by rote is one thing, reading it at a deeper level and making connections is quite another.

I agree entirely, and that is why you are wrong in stating Necrons would ally with Tau.

The people in this thread are looking at the merely superficial when they compare the two factions. Understanding Necrons on a deeper level would lead you to flat out dismiss the alliance between Tau and Necrons.

The idea that the Necrons/C'tan might subdue the tau and force them into servitude is an entirely different idea. That one is possible. But ALLY? Hell no.

this is not understanding at a deeper level, you are merely skimming at the surface of the Necrons theological outlook.

You see a race of metal zombies and view them as mindless zombies.
The necron i know is not one of cold malice and hate, but one of compassion and good.
You know not of how they long to frolic through a field of flowers, or kiss the girl they love on the vagina.
Or the great works of art hidden deep within the tomb worlds of the Necronotyr.
You obviously not yet recounted the ballad of BleepBloopious, who wandered the void for 4 millennia in search of his home, and his queen.
You see a race who goes to war when they are disturbed from their eternal slumber by jackass imperial miners every 5 fething minutes and despise it.

I see something more, i see something beautiful and good

The difference is simple to see between Necron and Tau. On one hand you have a grumpy, just wakened old man of a race and the other a naive young upstart fumbling it's way around the galaxy.

A perfect combo really a bit like Herbert the Pervert and Chris Griffin from Family Guy.

Necrons are not as nasty as folk make them out. Think about it, if they went to sleep to wait for everyone else (and therefore the warp) to die out they clearly didn't want to kill anyone.

Actually, not so.
They went into stasis so as to wait for life to recover. As you know, the C'Tan, who control the 'crons, feed on the energy of life, and so they need a good stock of it to survive. They are not so much grumpy old men as tools for gathering life that is suitable to their master's needs and harvesting it. The whole point of them is that they don't bargain, they don't reason and they certainly don't listen to noseless blue aliens. They just exist to act out their Star-God's demands, and those Star-Gods have no respect or need for allies.

Gorskar.da.Lost wrote:Except the Necrons hate all life. They'd never ally with anyone, full stop (and no, I don't care what the BA codex says) if they were alive.

Well the BA Codex is fluff Canon so you can disregard it all you want but it's still the way it happened. To say "I don't care what the people who write the fluff say, my opinion on this overrides theirs" is a little silly, don't you think?

Necrons do team up with other races on occasion, when circumstances dictate.

Gorskar.da.Lost wrote:Actually, not so.
They went into stasis so as to wait for life to recover. As you know, the C'Tan, who control the 'crons, feed on the energy of life, and so they need a good stock of it to survive. They are not so much grumpy old men as tools for gathering life that is suitable to their master's needs and harvesting it. The whole point of them is that they don't bargain, they don't reason and they certainly don't listen to noseless blue aliens. They just exist to act out their Star-God's demands, and those Star-Gods have no respect or need for allies.

And if the Star Gods dictate that the Necrons are friends with the Tau, they would be.

Point, but I don't think it would be an alliance of any kind. maybe the Deceiver would manipulate the T'au for his own needs, but never for theirs and in the log run they'd probably end up the worse for it.
Fair point about the codex thing too, I'm still a little sore about that. You'll have to ignore me if I take a snipe at it now and again.

Besides, look how happy that necron warrior is with his new alliance!

Gorskar.da.Lost wrote:Point, but I don't think it would be an alliance of any kind. maybe the Deceiver would manipulate the T'au for his own needs, but never for theirs and in the log run they'd probably end up the worse for it.
Fair point about the codex thing too, I'm still a little sore about that. You'll have to ignore me if I take a snipe at it now and again.

The word "alliance" has a few different meanings.

Working toward the same goal is an alliance, which isn't necessarily to say that they'll be having barbecues and going to each other's weddings.

Daemon-Archon Ren wrote:Besides, look how happy that necron warrior is with his new alliance!

That is so funny I can't bear it.

Or maybe Tau aren't the type of life that the star gods want to harvest? Maybe they had a bad experience with sushi in the past?

Besides my bulletproof theory were the Necrons not accidentally woken up? If not I'm sure the Tau had something to do with it. When was it the first Ethereals appeared?

Hmmmmmmmmmmm..........

Maybe the C'tan are alergic to seafood...

I spy race manipulation!
To be fair, there's been similar instances of that sort of thing with other "new" races, such as humans, who may have developed the "Pariah" gene as a result of Necron manipulation.


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Monster Rain wrote:

Gorskar.da.Lost wrote:Point, but I don't think it would be an alliance of any kind. maybe the Deceiver would manipulate the T'au for his own needs, but never for theirs and in the log run they'd probably end up the worse for it.
Fair point about the codex thing too, I'm still a little sore about that. You'll have to ignore me if I take a snipe at it now and again.

The word "alliance" has a few different meanings.

Working toward the same goal is an alliance, which isn't necessarily to say that they'll be having barbecues and going to each other's weddings.

Daemon-Archon Ren wrote:Besides, look how happy that necron warrior is with his new alliance!

That is so funny I can't bear it.

Waitaminute, didn't I use the same argument for Tau and Eldar being allies?...
Either way, I'm going to chuckle at the warrior now.

Gorskar.da.Lost wrote:
Waitaminute, didn't I use the same argument for Tau and Eldar being allies?...
Either way, I'm going to chuckle at the warrior now.

No, Eldar aren't muggles remember.

Besides, the Eldar gods Hate lesser races, and we all know how the C'tan feel about Tau!

Daemon-Archon Ren wrote:Maybe the C'tan are alergic to seafood...

Yeah, 'Don't eat the fat round Tau with the spiky skin!'

Maybe that's why the Necrons have the flayer guys. Maybe they were the chefs who knew how to prepare the dodgy seafood?

Lets also not forget...

Orks were created by the old ones to kill Necrons

Tau desperately hate orks

The enemy of my enemy is my fishy-friend!


(A 'Cron in need is a friend indeed!)

Excellent point.

Neither race were interfered with by the Old Ones.


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I also can't see Eldar working with the Tau as they always look miserable.

All of this talk about fish is making me hungry.
I wonder if Tau taste like cod?

So the point of Necron/Tau consists wholly of misunderstood background and crappy pics?
Why am I not surprised?

If this isn't a "most likely to join" thread anymore, let me vote for SM and CSM just because both have "marine" in their names.

Hmmm either that or haddock.

I reckon Kroot taste like chicken though.


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No, wait. They'll taste like Puffin.

1hadhq wrote:So the point of Necron/Tau consists wholly of misunderstood background and crappy pics?
Why am I not surprised?

If this isn't a "most likely to join" thread anymore, let me vote for SM and CSM just because both have "marine" in their names.

Chill, dude. Those pics are meant to be ironic.
In any case, I've stated why i don't think it's a likely pairing. Now I'm hungry because these jokers keep bringing up salmon.

1hadhq wrote:So the point of Necron/Tau consists wholly of misunderstood background and crappy pics?
Why am I not surprised?

If this isn't a "most likely to join" thread anymore, let me vote for SM and CSM just because both have "marine" in their names.

That's certainly feasible as all the loyalists would have to is turn traitor. Unfortunatley they would still be no match for the Necrau Alliance.

1hadhq wrote:So the point of Necron/Tau consists wholly of an indisputable mastery of fluff knowledge and awesome pics?
Why am I not surprised?

Fixed that for you.

Monster Rain wrote:[snip]definition spam[/snip]

No. I'm not buyin' that argument. Nor is anyone else apparently.

Ennkay wrote:You see a race of metal zombies and view them as mindless zombies.

No. I see an oppressed race of alien beings which had been forced into servitude by powerful deity-like beings after being doomed by the galactic community at the time to live on a planet that was dangerously harmful to life. Used by these beings to harvest souls for food, the Necrontyr likely have some level of hatred for the C'tan, and the rest of the galaxy in general, probably existing in a mental state of extreme spite whenever they aren't under the direct control of a C'tan (And with most of the C'tan dead and the living ones greatly weakened by so much time spent slumbering, there could be a relatively large number of them free of said control). From what I can tell, the Necrontyr whom have free will probably want to force the C'tan to starve and greatly weaken if at all possible, so that they can kill them and be free to exact their revenge out on the galaxy at large, after hatred built up from aeons of servitude.

What do you see?

This discussion on an alliance between Tau and Necrons is... Interesting.

While we're at it, I'm sure we can all agree that the Grey Knights would totally ally with Chaos Daemons.

Necroman wrote:This discussion on an alliance between Tau and Necrons is... Interesting.

While we're at it, I'm sure we can all agree that the Grey Knights would totally ally with Chaos Daemons.

And orks are just big softies, really. They totally believe in flower power.

Gorskar.da.Lost wrote:And orks are just big softies, really. They totally believe in flower power.

Someone needs to paint this army.

NOW.

Monster Rain wrote:

Fixed that for you.

No, you didn't fix those badly modified and ( maybe thats just my browser ) only partially loading pics.

In fluff, there are 2 most unlikely allies, and one of them is a undead themed horde of metallic painted green glowing space robots....

Seems youre right and its irrefutable that necrons may conquer but never ally as you surely wanted to point out with your gracious explanation of
40k background which I am looking forward to.

I just changed the size and color of a few words, it shouldn't be too hard for your browser... ah well.

And leave it to Melissa to argue with a dictionary.

I'm not arguing with a dictionary.... and I'm not completing that thought.

Necroman wrote:Someone needs to paint this army.

NOW.

Does Hello Kitty Orks count? I've seen that army before.

Melissia wrote:

Necroman wrote:Someone needs to paint this army.

NOW.

Does Hello Kitty Orks count? I've seen that army before.

IN THE GRIM DARKNESS OF THE FUTURE, THERE IS ONLY HELLO KITTY!


Whoops, wrong army.

Melissia wrote:I'm not arguing with a dictionary.... and I'm not completing that thought.

Necroman wrote:Someone needs to paint this army.

NOW.

Does Hello Kitty Orks count? I've seen that army before.

OHGOD.

Melissia wrote:I'm not arguing with a dictionary....snip

You're arguing with a dictionary definition of a word. My how you love semantics.

Wings of Light wrote:Eldar and orks and marine...Watch the last stand of DoW trailers

orks would never stay in an alliance. i cant even imagine an ork not fighting for more than a month.

You could take advantage of that though.

"ok if you join the greater Good, We will give you hundreds of thousands of drones to 'krump' as you say. All we ask is for you to hurt any 'Big Armor Humies' that threaten us."

Gorskar.da.Lost wrote:

Chill, dude. Those pics are meant to be ironic.
In any case, I've stated why i don't think it's a likely pairing. Now I'm hungry because these jokers keep bringing up salmon.

They are not ironic pics. They are prophetic.

1hadhq wrote:So the point of Necron/Tau consists wholly of misunderstood background and crappy pics?
Why am I not surprised?

If this isn't a "most likely to join" thread anymore, let me vote for SM and CSM just because both have "marine" in their names.

No, chaos space mans and space mans are fighting.

The fish and the zombie team is best.

Remember, Necrons and Tau came in dark crusade together.

Daemon-Archon Ren wrote:Remember, Necrons and Tau came in dark crusade together.

I really don't think it gets more airtight than that.

I vote other for Eldar and Space Marines, since it's been done before.

Daemon-Archon Ren wrote:
They are not ironic pics. They are prophetic.

Seems your prophetic skills aren't that good...

Daemon-Archon Ren wrote:
No, chaos space mans and space mans are fighting.

The fish and the zombie team is best.

Remember, Necrons and Tau came in dark crusade together.

The the fishy cow-people are too annoying to ally with, even for undead.
Sadly, there is no ancient zombie team where you look, but zombies in space powered by chaos. So youre saying Tau and Nurgle will be close friends.

Remember : Necron = Tomb Kings in space ( skeletons, NOT zombies ).

Monster Rain wrote:

Daemon-Archon Ren wrote:Remember, Necrons and Tau came in dark crusade together.

I really don't think it gets more airtight than that.

Tell that those Tau fans when their 'end-sequence' is mentioned...

To add someting supporting MY case:

Space Mans and Spiky Space Mans were best friends for centurys and followed the same creed.
There are dozens of canon sources of their glorious past as undivided force when they conquered the galaxy.
Nothing comes close to the brotherhood they shared.

Care to provide anything as valid as this for your claim?


Actually ( M41-42 ) the Eldar would be the way to vote in this thread if you deem their manipulative works as 'alliances'.

Necroman wrote:This discussion on an alliance between Tau and Necrons is... Interesting.

While we're at it, I'm sure we can all agree that the Grey Knights would totally ally with Chaos Daemons.

Maybe not by choice. The four powers are very crafty and if they trapped enough of them on a daemon world and turned them it's certainly possible.

Is there any fluff evidence of the Tau fighting the Necrons by the way?

No? I didn't think so.


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There just no way Eldar would ally with any race. Maybe squats but unlikely. Eldar are too proud to accept help from such a fledgling race as the Tau.

Necroman wrote:

Gorskar.da.Lost wrote:And orks are just big softies, really. They totally believe in flower power.

Someone needs to paint this army.

NOW.

just go look at Dash of Pepper's army. "the Pink Waaagh"

Vet Sgt Ezekiel wrote:Is there any fluff evidence of the Tau fighting the Necrons by the way?

I don't know of any BL books, but then Tau and Necrons are both very new as far as fluff goes.

Still, allow me to repeat a timeless, beloved phrase: "Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence". Just because there have been few (I would hesitate to say no, depending on the canon-icity of the various DoW games amongst other pieces of fluff) examples of such happening doesn't prove a thing. Especially since most of the time when Necrons attack usually nothing is left alive to report back afterwards anyway.

Melissia wrote:

Vet Sgt Ezekiel wrote:Is there any fluff evidence of the Tau fighting the Necrons by the way?

I don't know of any BL books, but then Tau and Necrons are both very new as far as fluff goes.

Still, allow me to repeat a timeless, beloved phrase: "Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence". Just because there have been few (I would hesitate to say no, depending on the canon-icity of the various DoW games amongst other pieces of fluff) examples of such happening doesn't prove a thing. Especially since most of the time when Necrons attack usually nothing is left alive to report back afterwards anyway.

Tau + Necrons= Antichrist
Seriously? Necrons hATE ALL LIFE!
They don't care who the you are if your organic bye bye.
If your an iduiot bye bye.
If you are tau uhh they are organic. Necrons strive to destory all life NO EXCEPTIONS!
Your dog! Blown to hell
Your Wife! Thrown into a fusion core
Your entire planet! Blown up by a World Engine.
The Tau! Blown up 50 x over.
AI! Lets be friends! (then kills them all)
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Anyway it is wrong to believe that Necrons would ally anyone.
The only two races I could see working together are the Eldar and the Tau.
But the Eldar would most likely just use the Tau and exterminate them later. As the Tau have no warp capabilities.

Melissia wrote:

Vet Sgt Ezekiel wrote:Is there any fluff evidence of the Tau fighting the Necrons by the way?

I don't know of any BL books, but then Tau and Necrons are both very new as far as fluff goes.

Still, allow me to repeat a timeless, beloved phrase: "Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence". Just because there have been few (I would hesitate to say no, depending on the canon-icity of the various DoW games amongst other pieces of fluff) examples of such happening doesn't prove a thing. Especially since most of the time when Necrons attack usually nothing is left alive to report back afterwards anyway.

Yes, i see. Maybe the Necrau Alliance got rid of the evidence. Any BL authors missing?

Seriously though, i think the fact they are the only 2 non-old ones derived (Nids don't count as they're from another galaxy) races is evidence enough.

As far as phrases go, check this one out: "Presence of the abnormal, absence of the normal". A saying that is apt for the unsuspecting galaxy not aware of the birth of the Necrau Alliance.

I hope the Necrons kill the Kroot first though and those wingy things named after an Italian moped.

My good friend plays tau so I always try to come up with ways to justify our tabletop allainces. I was thinking maybe they trade tech or something. My lord wants to restore the necrontyr and recover his buddies' memories and such so the tau might help there. He also enjoys raiding forgeworlds and messing up eldar.

Vet Sgt Ezekiel: Seriously? THAT is the reasoning you're going with.

Whelp, this thread's jumped the shark.

Again.

asimo77 wrote:My good friend plays tau so I always try to come up with ways to justify our tabletop allainces. I was thinking maybe they trade tech or something. My lord wants to restore the necrontyr and recover his buddies' memories and such so the tau might help there. He also enjoys raiding forgeworlds and messing up eldar.

Sound reasoning there. Trade is a def motive. Even the orks trade with the Imperium so why not the Necrau?




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Melissia wrote:Vet Sgt Ezekiel: Seriously? THAT is the reasoning you're going with.

Whelp, this thread's jumped the shark.

Again.

Why not?

Whelp indeed. Not very nice and outdated by about 100 years. i may be close to middle age but I'm not that old. Rapscallion would be fine though.

Jumped the shark? Lost the plot maybe but why sharks?

Vet Sgt Ezekiel wrote:

asimo77 wrote:My good friend plays tau so I always try to come up with ways to justify our tabletop allainces. I was thinking maybe they trade tech or something. My lord wants to restore the necrontyr and recover his buddies' memories and such so the tau might help there. He also enjoys raiding forgeworlds and messing up eldar.

Even the orks trade with the Imperium

..............................no.......... What hersey is this?
*Pulls out hersey stamp*
HERSEY!




Jumping the shark is an idiom used to describe the moment of downturn for a previously successful enterprise. The phrase was originally used to denote the point in a television program's history where the plot spins off into absurd storylines or unlikely characterizations. These changes were often the result of efforts to revive interest in a show whose audience had begun to decline, usually through the employment of different actors, writers or producers.

Asherian Command wrote:

Vet Sgt Ezekiel wrote:

asimo77 wrote:My good friend plays tau so I always try to come up with ways to justify our tabletop allainces. I was thinking maybe they trade tech or something. My lord wants to restore the necrontyr and recover his buddies' memories and such so the tau might help there. He also enjoys raiding forgeworlds and messing up eldar.

Even the orks trade with the Imperium

..............................no.......... What hersey is this?
*Pulls out hersey stamp*
HERSEY!




Jumping the shark is an idiom used to describe the moment of downturn for a previously successful enterprise. The phrase was originally used to denote the point in a television program's history where the plot spins off into absurd storylines or unlikely characterizations. These changes were often the result of efforts to revive interest in a show whose audience had begun to decline, usually through the employment of different actors, writers or producers.

And i quote:


"The Blood Axes are an Ork clan and were the first to encounter the Imperium. During their exposure and battles they picked up many human tactics, such as using camouflage (although often it is too bright to actually disguise the Ork) and retreating when they're losing. They trade with humans for equipment and vehicles, and have even worked as mercenaries for the Imperium at times (such as the Battle at Big Toof River). All of these things lead followers of other clans to brand them as dangerously treacherous, cowardly, and downright un-Orky. Most Blood Axes are back-stabbing Kommandos. Their clan symbol is two crossed axes".


Never heard of that shark phrase before so thanks for the info. Flogging a dead horse would be my analogy of that fine idiom.

the reason the Phrase works is because of this.


When you jump a shark, Where are you?

in front of its mouth.


it works to represent a show, or person, who has done something so absurd and is about to pay for it.

I realised why, after reading the definition in Wiki, that I'd never heard of it. It originates in the USA. Now I understand why i'd never heard it before.

If one wants to jump a shark one might not be in front of it. I might jump it from the side. if I'm underwater I won't bother as the drag created by the water won't constitute what i would define as a 'jump'. More like a star fish impression.

Another omnidirectional animal pestering would be the art of cow toppling. But this is best done at night.

Vet Sgt Ezekiel wrote:
Another omnidirectional animal pestering would be the art of cow toppling. But this is best done at night.

So true XD

Cow tipping is difficult as it involves moving a half ton of beef in a lateral direction when the animals legs are locked.


i reccomend T'au tipping.

you get the same satisfaction of them being unable to move and it's far easier as T'au rarely excede 80 pounds in weight.

and the funny sounds the T'au makes as it atempts to right itself is hilarious as well.

Hopefully there's my Eldar chum on all fours behind the Tau to assist me in said venture.

Team work rocks.

Melissia wrote:

Monster Rain wrote:[snip]definition spam[/snip]

No. I'm not buyin' that argument. Nor is anyone else apparently.

Ennkay wrote:You see a race of metal zombies and view them as mindless zombies.

No. I see an oppressed race of alien beings which had been forced into servitude by powerful deity-like beings after being doomed by the galactic community at the time to live on a planet that was dangerously harmful to life. Used by these beings to harvest souls for food, the Necrontyr likely have some level of hatred for the C'tan, and the rest of the galaxy in general, probably existing in a mental state of extreme spite whenever they aren't under the direct control of a C'tan (And with most of the C'tan dead and the living ones greatly weakened by so much time spent slumbering, there could be a relatively large number of them free of said control). From what I can tell, the Necrontyr whom have free will probably want to force the C'tan to starve and greatly weaken if at all possible, so that they can kill them and be free to exact their revenge out on the galaxy at large, after hatred built up from aeons of servitude.

What do you see?

"We next put in at the planet of Aeolus. The Deciever had made him Keeper of the Warp Winds. So when I'd entertained Aeolus for a month with tales of Necron Troy,
he was kind enough to provide a steady breeze to blow us home. He even gave me an assortment of storm winds to stow on board, tied up in a leather bag.

Nine days later we were just off Necron Ithaca, so close that people could be seen ashore going about their work. I had dozed off, exhausted by manning the warp sail myself the whole way.
Now my fellow Necrons noticed the bag that Aeolus had given me.
'Why does  BleepBloopious get all the booty?' the other Necrons wanted to know. 'What have we got to show for our space roving?'
So they opened it and let loose a hurricane that blew us all the way back to Aeolus's island. Hangdog, I appeared once more before him and asked if he would send us home again. He kicked me right out of there.

Back in space, six days and nights we were becalmed. Then we fetched up in the planet of the Laestrygonians. There it's daylight around the clock. A shore patrol was dispatched to scout the countryside.
They came upon a husky young girl who directed them to her mother, the queen of those people. She proved to be hideous and huge as a mountain, and her husband was hot for blood. He grabbed the first Necron, tore him in half and chomped him down. The others made a break for it.

They came screaming back to the shore, followed by the entire clan of Laestrygonians. As the Necrons scrambled to cast off, they were bombarded by boulders pelted from the heights. It was like shooting eldar in a craftworld. The Laestrygonians smashed ships and Necrons and gorged on lumps of Necrons.

I'd had the presence of mind to cut away the hawser with my warscythe, and I urged my Necrons to row for their lives. We made it, the only ship to escape. Our relief was overwhelmed in grief for the comrades left behind.
When we came to Circe's island, no one was eager to go exploring, but I divided the company in two and we drew lots. My group stayed behind while the other set out under my kinsman Beeprilochus to reconnoiter.
Before long they came to a stone house in the middle of a tangled wood. Strange to tell, it was surrounded by lions and wolves of extraordinary meekness. Hearing singing from within, the Necrons saw no harm in making their presence known.
Circe came out and welcomed them inside. All but Beeprilochus accepted the invitation. He had a premonition. And sure enough, after she had given them food and honeyed wine mixed with a pinch of something, she waved her wand and turned them into swine.

Beeprilochus came running back to the ship and spread the alarm. I now shouldered the burden of command and set out to investigate.
Fortunately I met Bloopmes along the way. The Deciever's herald warned me that I too would be transformed by Circe's witchery unless I followed his instructions. I was to accept the potion that she gave me, knowing that I would be protected by a godly charm -- a sprig of herb called moly that mortals dare not harvest. Then when she raised her wand I was to draw my warscythe.

Bloopmes gave me the moly, then departed. I made my way to the house in the clearing and Circe bade me enter. I downed the potion. Then just as she showed her wand, I unsheathed my Warscythe and held it to her throat.
She fainted to the ground and clutched my knees. 'You can only be Bleepbloopious. Bloopmes warned me that this day would come. Let me be your friend and lover.'
First I made her swear an oath.

Later we feasted splendidly and her servants danced attendance. But she could see that I was in no mood for levity. Divining the cause, she waved her wand once more and restored my shipmates to human form. She even sent me to summon the Necrons from the ship, who never thought they'd see me again alive.

When many months had passed, the crew reminded me of home. Now it was my turn to take Circe's knees in supplication. The goddess was willing to let me go, but it was not as simple as that.
'You will never see your home again,' she said, 'by sailing there directly. You must detour to the land of Death, there to consult the blind prophet Tiresias. He alone can chart your course.'

Now THAT'S fluff.

Amusing. But I very much imagine that the Necrontyr might have, at one point, had a mythology not based around the C'tan.

Most likely would have had a Greater Good theme.

Shall we try and stick to the topic?

Personally I play Eldar and Tau can a .

Kilkrazy wrote:

I literally stared at this as it was very amusing.....

Anyway the Necrons + Tau = bad idea.

Asherian Command wrote:

Kilkrazy wrote:

I literally stared at this as it was very amusing.....

Anyway the Necrons + Tau = bad idea.

This from the guy with a 6,000 Marine Chapter.

My own council will I keep on what is fluffy.

And yes, quoting that video was intentional. It's my new favorite thing.

Download a copy to "enjoy privately" at home.

If you repeat it across the forum too much it will eat up all the server capacity.

Kilkrazy wrote:Download a copy to "enjoy privately" at home.

If you repeat it across the forum too much it will eat up all the server capacity.

I was talking about her facial expressions dude. Not that.....
I am profiler And i love facial expressions they seem hilarious to me. Even though some people don't see it.

Facial expressions, sure, whatever you say man. Also everyone seems to forget the awesome party the tau threw for the necrons when they killed the nids. They only zapped the tau because they were criminally bad dancers.

That's what happens when you have two left hooves.

Can we get back on topic, or is this topic spent already?

Tau are good dancers.





Now get back on topic!

Cyberwarfare

I admit that my vote was not based entirely on well-reasoned arguments. However, the fact that I played tau, and if I were to pick up 40k again would start necrons, is enough reason for me .

Tyranids would be tempting, too... but I don't see them allying with anybody

To my mind necrons (being a very ancient race) hooking up with tau (being a very young race) is as wrong as a 101 year old woman hooking up with an 18 year old bloke... disturbing...

Ma55ter_fett wrote:To my mind necrons (being a very ancient race) hooking up with tau (being a very young race) is as wrong as a 101 year old woman hooking up with an 18 year old bloke... disturbing...

Thats a bit ageist.

As long as two races are happy together who are we to judge them. If a fish wanted to marry a robot i wouldn't stop them. in Europe its against the law to even try.

Ma55ter_fett wrote:To my mind necrons (being a very ancient race) hooking up with tau (being a very young race) is as wrong as a 101 year old woman hooking up with an 18 year old bloke... disturbing...

I imagine it being more of a synergistic relationship where Necron forceably enslave the Tau and the Tau accept through ignorance/having no choice. If thats not a great alliance I don't know what is!

Hmmm? Impressing tau into working towards a different race's agenda. Talk about irony.

Ma55ter_fett wrote:To my mind necrons (being a very ancient race) hooking up with tau (being a very young race) is as wrong as a 101 year old woman hooking up with an 18 year old bloke... disturbing...

Clearly someone hasn't seen the movie "The Karate Kid"

Tau equipment would look amazing in bare metal too. Chrome Hammerheads etc.

The Tau would paint themselves silver and jump about like they're in a Red Hot Chilli Peppers video. It would be ace.

Man, the ideas for a Necrau Alliance army pop into my head in waves right now.

It works on so many levels. Modelling, painting(easy), both races have great rules and above all they have allied before which gives it total legitimacy.

If, by total legitimacy, you mean zero legitimacy, yes.

I prefer the idea of a Necron/Ork alliance, a new race of hyperviolent but always fun robot killing machine thug beings...

I call them NORKS!!

I bet if there were more NORKS in 40k, there'd be more fun.

Do you like the idea of NORKS?

I think we must seriously consider Sisters and Chaos...

Opposites do attract.

The Harvey Dent of the 40k universe.

Who picked the Necron stuff? Seriously? They want to kill all living life, so why would they ally again?



I said Orks and Choas. It seemed much more likely that Chaos would ask/use the Orks then any other races, and live to tell about it

It's not even opposites really.

SOBs aren't given the training and hundreds of years lifespan of marines, so they could easily find themselves drawn to allying with chaos, especially slaanesh. SOBs are, after all, really only just humans with human failings, at the end of the day.

Their striving for excellence, perfection and so on can easily drift into pride. Pride in personal excellence, superiority etc would be a great incentive for them to join to slaanesh. Their drive to remonstrate and punish and flagellate themselves in the name of proving themselves holy, how easy it might be to drift from taking on such things as punishments to perversely seeking to be punished, to take a warped pride in their flagellations and tortures...

That and they both have bewbs.

KingCracker wrote:Who picked the Necron stuff? Seriously? They want to kill all living life, so why would they ally again?



I said Orks and Choas. It seemed much more likely that Chaos would ask/use the Orks then any other races, and live to tell about it

Orks want to kill everything. Yet they ally.

I like NORKS though. Mmmmmmmmm, NORKS

KingCracker wrote:Who picked the Necron stuff? Seriously? They want to kill all living life, so why would they ally again?

Well, the Emprah has made it pretty clear that all of Mankind is to purge all other races out there (to prevent from being enslaved) yet there are still plenty of instances where Imperial forces ally temporarily with Xenos scum.

Also, Khorne and Slaanesh are bitter rivals in the great game, yet I have seen many a list which includes Skulltaker and The Masque.

All things considered, the idea of Taucrons is not all that foreign, besides, they did come together in DoW Dark Crusade...

The Emperor worked with, or at least tolerated, the Eldar.

Orks are naturally resistant ot Chaos, because Chaos tainted Orks are un-orky.

Melissia wrote:The Emperor worked with, or at least tolerated, the Eldar.

Orks are naturally resistant ot Chaos, because Chaos tainted Orks are un-orky.

Norks, possessing the natural spiritual buoyancy of the ork and the firming, deadly resolve of the necrons, can be said to be resistant to choas, being both buoyant and yet firm, the ideal NORK!!

Also, the tau are very non-warpy, being not in the least bit psychic, so also they'd be just like the necrons if the necrons wanted a new type of pariah but smaller, perhaps for a scouting pariah! If you combined them all, you'd get Norks Nau!!

Norks Nau!

Norks Nau!

That is the second or third dumbest thing I have ever heard.

It was almost funny . NEeds a something more though... hrm... dunno what.


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Oh right. Gotta figure out a way to have Taudar in there.

Melissia wrote:That is the second or third dumbest thing I have ever heard.

It was almost funny . NEeds a something more though... hrm... dunno what.

Howaboutthat?

Melissia wrote:That is the second or third dumbest thing I have ever heard.

It was almost funny . NEeds a something more though... hrm... dunno what.


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Oh right. Gotta figure out a way to have Taudar in there.

No... If they ally with the firm but buoyant NORKS, they'd be Neldar! .... or Elrons.... or Lrons...

Norkdar sounds good?

Well have to see what flawless unargueable and totally legit fluff the next DoW brings.

Tau and Eldar is still crazy talk as far as I'm concerned and has no place on this Necrau thread.

Somehow I think this thread has just about run its course....

MeanGreenStompa wrote:

AAAGH!

*makes the handsign of the Aquila*

The power of the Emperor compels you! The power of the Emperor compels you! The power of the Emperor compels you! The power of the Emperor compels you!

If I hadn't been so convinced about tau and necrons, I would have voted for NORKS in a heartbeat <3

RiTides, who in their right mind wouldnt have. But the evidance supporting Tau and Necrons is just to concrete.

Catyrpelius wrote:RiTides, who in their right mind wouldnt have. But the evidance supporting Tau and Necrons is just to concrete.

I couldn't agree more, whilst Norks are totally fething balls to the wall awesome

The bridge is nearly complete

How about chaonorkdarnidig templar-wolves?

Squats and Chaos. It only makes sense that there would be Chaos Squats with gigantic hats. They would, of course, have the assistance of Grotlars and Bull-Zoats. Being master engineers, they would naturally be entrusted with all manner of gigantic daemonic cannons.

So is Inspector Gadget a Flayed-One?

asimo77 wrote:How about chaonorkdarnidig templar-wolves?

Arctik_Firangi wrote:Squats and Chaos. It only makes sense that there would be Chaos Squats with gigantic hats. They would, of course, have the assistance of Grotlars and Bull-Zoats. Being master engineers, they would naturally be entrusted with all manner of gigantic daemonic cannons.

So is Inspector Gadget a Flayed-One?

You guys are getting out of hand. Norks and Nau are viable and realistic choices, this is just shenanigans. Lets try to keep on topics.

Yeah, taking it a bit far now.

Remember concrete evidence is required that an alliance is possible like the Necrons and Tau as mentioned already.

Personally I'm a Necrau / Taucron man myself but I am partial to the idea of Norks. Real men like Norks.

Vet Sgt Ezekiel wrote:

Remember concrete evidence is required that an alliance is possible...

Maybe let some of this 'evidence' grace this thread ?

Something NOT self made but available from GW would be welcome.

We da Norks, MANLY Norks, da Norks in tights.
Yar!
We roam around space looking for fights.
We da Norks, da Norks in tights.
We rob from da Emperor and give to da Tau, that's right!
We may look like Orks, but don get us wrong or else we put out your lights!
We da Norks, da Norks in tights
TIGHT Tights
Always on guard defendin da Necron's wrights.
When yous in a fix just call for da Norks in tights!
WE BUTCH!

1hadhq wrote:
Maybe let some of this 'evidence' grace this thread ?

Something NOT self made but available from GW would be welcome.

GW Made Dawn of War Cannon

Necrons and Tau came together in Dark Crusade.

1hadhq wrote:

Vet Sgt Ezekiel wrote:

Remember concrete evidence is required that an alliance is possible...

Maybe let some of this 'evidence' grace this thread ?

The similarities between the cheekbones of Tau Ethereals and Necrons is unmistakable.

Perhaps the space pope is the outsider...

I'd like to point to the ally chart ( apoc rulebook, page 198): where Necrons may ally with chaos, DE and orks, plus necrons, but should not with Eldar, nids, the IoM
and surely not with Tau.

Daemon-Archon Ren wrote:

GW Made Dawn of War Cannon

Necrons and Tau came together in Dark Crusade.

Cool, there is a cannon in Dawn of War
Must be like the rouge traders people post of regularly.

Could you specify where? As the WH40.000: Dawn of War - Dark Crusade I own, seems to lack this Necron+Tau=BF ......
Or was it directed at multiplayer games?

Monster Rain wrote:

The similarities between the cheekbones of Tau Ethereals and Necrons is unmistakable.

Really?
Lets have a look at some Models.
I don't think those fish faced , standing at hooves and having 3 fingers are close related to those skull faced, humanoid skeleton robots.

(xenos thread was controlled and cleansed afterwards by our always present security team.)

Double post.

I think Space Marines and IG should be combined for the imperium, as well as the others imperial factions...

Since its happened alot before, I say IoM and Eldar. Or IoM and Tau.

1hadhq wrote:I'd like to point to the ally chart ( apoc rulebook, page 198): where Necrons may ally with chaos, DE and orks, plus necrons, but should not with Eldar, nids, the IoM
and surely not with Tau.

Thats merely a suggestive tool and not a concrete "none shall pass!"

I feel that this picture says what I cannot.

Haha, Actually Necrons and Tau would be awesome...

@ Aretak: No one?

Correct Answer:




Sounds like a last comment from a xenos unaware of imperial firepower

1hadhq wrote:I'd like to point to the ally chart ( apoc rulebook, page 198): where Necrons may ally with chaos, DE and orks, plus necrons, but should not with Eldar, nids, the IoM
and surely not with Tau.

That ally chart is for games of apocalypse, we are talking about normal 40k. The list does not apply... (To me, all that says is that it would not be game balancing to have Pylons and Mantas on the same team)

1hadhq wrote:
Could you specify where? As the WH40.000: Dawn of War - Dark Crusade I own, seems to lack this Necron+Tau=BF ......
Or was it directed at multiplayer games?

Look on the back of your CD case. It should have a star that says: "Two new races: The Tau empire and the Necrons "

This should be proof enough.

Don't forget Blood Angels and Necrons...

1hadhq wrote:I'd like to point to the ally chart ( apoc rulebook, page 198): where Necrons may ally with chaos, DE and orks, plus necrons, but should not with Eldar, nids, the IoM
and surely not with Tau.

Daemon-Archon Ren wrote:

GW Made Dawn of War Cannon

Necrons and Tau came together in Dark Crusade.

Cool, there is a cannon in Dawn of War
Must be like the rouge traders people post of regularly.

Could you specify where? As the WH40.000: Dawn of War - Dark Crusade I own, seems to lack this Necron+Tau=BF ......
Or was it directed at multiplayer games?

Monster Rain wrote:

The similarities between the cheekbones of Tau Ethereals and Necrons is unmistakable.

Really?
Lets have a look at some Models.
I don't think those fish faced , standing at hooves and having 3 fingers are close related to those skull faced, humanoid skeleton robots.

(xenos thread was controlled and cleansed afterwards by our always present security team.)

Ye look but do not see. Look whithin thine self and seeketh not yee untruth for ye shall find it thus.


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Daemon-Archon Ren wrote:

1hadhq wrote:I'd like to point to the ally chart ( apoc rulebook, page 198): where Necrons may ally with chaos, DE and orks, plus necrons, but should not with Eldar, nids, the IoM
and surely not with Tau.

That ally chart is for games of apocalypse, we are talking about normal 40k. The list does not apply... (To me, all that says is that it would not be game balancing to have Pylons and Mantas on the same team)

1hadhq wrote:
Could you specify where? As the WH40.000: Dawn of War - Dark Crusade I own, seems to lack this Necron+Tau=BF ......
Or was it directed at multiplayer games?

Look on the back of your CD case. It should have a star that says: "Two new races: The Tau empire and the Necrons "

This should be proof enough.




WORD

Daemon-Archon Ren wrote:

That ally chart is for games of apocalypse, we are talking about normal 40k. The list does not apply...

1hadhq wrote:
Could you specify where? As the WH40.000: Dawn of War - Dark Crusade I own, seems to lack this Necron + Tau = BF ......
Or was it directed at multiplayer games?

Look on the back of your CD case. It should have a star that says: "Two new races: The Tau empire and the Necrons "

This should be proof enough.

So a GW expansion does not apply when its content ruins your argument.

Fine, shall we look for the Tau and Necrons = bestest friends/allies point youre trying to make?
-Tau and Necrons are separate armies and you can't play them at once.
-The back of the case shows Necrons killing Tau. Somehow unlikely for allies?
-Obviously human players are free to ally in multiplayer games, but this really should not count as proof.
-The campaign is focused at one of seven armies to field, but you can't ally with necrons nor Tau there....
I am sadly still waiting for proof of your point.

Vet Sgt Ezekiel wrote:
WORD

MS-WORD ?

Would prefer a common post in this thread. You don't need to use WORD or any other similar product. Just basic 'hit reply button' / type in without dialects /
'hit submit' and I'll try to read without getting confused.

1hadhq:

I'm sorry, were you disagreeing with me?

It seems like the pics you posted pretty much made my case.

1hadhq wrote:

So a GW expansion does not apply when its content ruins your argument.

It never applied...

1hadhq wrote:
Fine, shall we look for the Tau and Necrons = bestest friends/allies point youre trying to make?
-Tau and Necrons are separate armies and you can't play them at once.

You can't play IG and Spes mans at once, are you saying they aren't allies?

1hadhq wrote:
-The back of the case shows Necrons killing Tau. Somehow unlikely for allies?

Have you ever heard of the =I=

1hadhq wrote:
-Obviously human players are free to ally in multiplayer games, but this really should not count as proof.

Agreed, thus it isn't.

1hadhq wrote:
-The campaign is focused at one of seven armies to field, but you can't ally with necrons nor Tau there....
I am sadly still waiting for proof of your point.

You can't ally Spes mans and IG in campaign either. Again, are the IG and the Spes mans not friends?

Monster Rain wrote:1hadhq:

I'm sorry, were you disagreeing with me?

It seems like the pics you posted pretty much made my case.

Yes the pics closed the case, as they provided examples of Human skeletons as robots in space.
Humans aren't Tau. Different skeleton.

Daemon-Archon Ren wrote:

a)You can't play IG and Spes mans at once, are you saying they aren't allies?


b)Have you ever heard of the =I=


c)You can't ally Spes mans and IG in campaign either. Again, are the IG and the Spes mans not friends?

A) Spes mans are modified humans, Guardsmen are their little brethren....
Basically the ImperialGuard and the AdeptusAstartes are two parts of the same body: The Imperium.

Necrons are former Necrontyr and T'au are just T'au.
Since necrons aren't T'au ( and never were) and T'au aren't necrons ( and never will be ), it should go undisputed that an Empire of humans does not need to ally
to be friends and obviously the xenos scum won't ever have a friendship like that of the IG and the spase mens.

B) No?

C) I'll have to remind you that DoW does not care about friends or not.
My point still stands, there is NO example of a friendship between Necrons and Tau in dark crusade.

Hope I'm not derailing the thread to much from its current course but I thought I'd throw in my two cents.

Most likely allies IMO will always be the Eladar and the Imperium.

1. They both possess influential but pragmatic individuals with the power to make deals on the factions behalf, Inquisitors and Farseers.

2. Somewhat overlapping on the first point, they both have zealots and fanatics in their ranks, however these are, in most cases, not the decision makers. (unlike the Tau)

3. Theirs goal could possibly overlap, the Imperium wants hegemony while ultimately all the Eladar want, despite all their posturing, is survival.

An improbable but possible scenario IMO would be the Eldar out of desperation becoming a kind of protectorate of the Imperium. Craftworlds could travel through imperial space, exodite worlds and Craftworlds could call upon the imperial navy for assistance etc in exchange the Imperium gets access to the webway and other technological goodies.
of course the Imperium would probably have to call their new vassals something less humiliating to allow the sharp ears to save face.

DE and CSM. Both have worked together in fluff. They aim for similar objectives, and I see no reason why they wouldn't work together...As long as the CSM aren't slaaneshi... I think the CSM lost their morbid fear of xenos when they left the imperium..But I could wrong. I just haven't noticed any 'xenos-hating' in any CSM fluff I've read. Quite the opposite, actually. They seem to appreciate the DE and eldar for the numerous psychic relics they possess, and they seem to enjoy using the orks for their stuff.


Eldar and Tau does make sense...to an extent...I think everyone voted for them just because it was the first option

Samus_aran115 wrote:DE and CSM. Both have worked together in fluff. They aim for similar objectives, and I see no reason why they wouldn't work together...As long as the CSM aren't slaaneshi... I think the CSM lost their morbid fear of xenos when they left the imperium..But I could wrong. I just haven't noticed any 'xenos-hating' in any CSM fluff I've read. Quite the opposite, actually. They seem to appreciate the DE and eldar for the numerous psychic relics they possess, and they seem to enjoy using the orks for their stuff.


Eldar and Tau does make sense...to an extent...I think everyone voted for them just because it was the first option

To the contrary, most of the CSM are still rabidly xenophobic human supremacists, they just believe in a human run galaxy united under chaos rather than the emperor. For an example of the DE and CSM at each others throats read Dark Disciple by Anthony Reynolds.

1hadhq wrote:

Monster Rain wrote:1hadhq:

I'm sorry, were you disagreeing with me?

It seems like the pics you posted pretty much made my case.

Yes the pics closed the case, as they provided examples of Human skeletons as robots in space.
Humans aren't Tau. Different skeleton.

The cheekbones though...

Either I've been dosed with LSD or those pics show some distinct similarities between the two races.

I would say the Necron has the skull ( head ) to look like a human if you put some flesh on.
At the necron "head" ,There would be a nose ( Tau = reproductive facial slit ) and the eye sockets are closer. Plus necrons have a chin.

You could say a Tau head with some flesh on would look like a human too. Doesnt mean either concept is correct though.

A Necrons chin could be false. Maybe they're big fans of the famous chins we take for granted. Like Jimmy Hill for instance.

There's one defining similarity with the two races and that's the non warp aspect. Yes it's slightly different between the races but it's still common enough ground for an alliance against chaos itself.

Makng up xenobiology that hasn't been published in fluff is a but silly if you ask me. Let's stick to facts.

Vet Sgt Ezekiel wrote:
You could say a Tau head with some flesh on would look like a human too.

Vet Sgt Ezekiel wrote:
Let's stick to facts.

Stick to facts would prevent a Necron alliance, thus I welcome your return to a common ground : the published material of GW ( and maybe their sub-companies too ).

How do you know the Tau weren't the C'Tan response to Orks?

An entire multi-species empire of races in which ALL are "blanks"...

Coincidence? Or "Just as Planned" for the Taucrons?

Daemon-Archon Ren wrote:How do you know the Tau weren't the C'Tan response to Orks?

An entire multi-species empire of races in which ALL are "blanks"...

Coincidence? Or "Just as Planned" for the Taucrons?

Because the old ones didn't create them, duh.

Samus_aran115 wrote:

Daemon-Archon Ren wrote:How do you know the Tau weren't the C'Tan response to Orks?

An entire multi-species empire of races in which ALL are "blanks"...

Coincidence? Or "Just as Planned" for the Taucrons?

Because the old ones didn't create them, duh.

And how, exactly, do you know that?

In fact, since the Old Ones are most likely Void Whales, the fact that the Fish 'Eads might be their true offspring race isn't so far-fetched.

Dark Eldar and CSM pretty much seem to be in the same boat, I'm surprised they haven't joined already.

I vote that we lobby for the adding of the acronym "TC" to the Dakka Dictionary, as an abbreviation for that most perfect union of races- "Taucrons"

Why vote? Make it happen!

its got to be the feared amalgam of daemon and orks

DORKS!

Fluff wise Space Marines and Imperials have both became allies with Eldar as can be seen in DOW and Winter Assault. But i chose imperial and Eldar because Space Marines are less trusting and less tolerant of xenos then Imperials.

And P.S. who chose Marines and Chaos Marines? I mean really?

1hadhq wrote:T'au are just T'au.

Ah, but what about T'Pau?

Carol Decker had great cheekbones.

BloodQuest wrote:

1hadhq wrote:T'au are just T'au.

Ah, but what about T'Pau?

What about T Pain?

T'pol? a space elf?
T'Pain wears the RED flag so yes possible blue-grey in disguise....

For cheekbones:
A T'Kar


A G'Kar



Narn = Necrontyr.

Chaos Space marines rig shootas with bombs
Orks become mercenaries
Orks are seen to be Mukkin About
CSM proceeds to detonate, problem solved

Melissia wrote:Oh, no, Tau are also guano insane. If you think for an instant they're any less fanatic about "the greater good" than the Imperium is about the Imperial Creed, you don't know the faction very well

Also, why "Imperial Guard" and Eldar?

Why not just "Imperium" and Eldar? I mean Imperial Guard just do what they're told. It's the leaders of the Imperium that tell them what to do, and those are the governors, the heads of the Munitorum, the High Lords, and Inquisitors.

Space marines tend more to xenophobia I think. Ulthwe Eldar and the Tallarn have some history of cooperation together

Armies such as the imerium, eldar and tau have allied in the past but would probably never ally for a long time

Dark eldar and orks

I'm amazed the compelling evidence that supports the Tau and Necrons hasn't resulted in a landslide voting victory of said same chums.

Come on folks, you know it makes sense.

GKs, Sisters and Chaos. They're secretly all the bestest of friends ¬.¬

I'd probably say Tau/Eldar are the most likely the ally with someone. The Imperium will at some points, but unless it's with itself, they won't like it, and will probably turn on them the second they no longer need them.

Orks will ally for a fight, and when that fight is over, you want to be as far away from them as possible, because they'll turn on you.

Chaos will ally for their own means, and will backstab you afterwards.

Tyranids and Necrons will not ally with anyone. The Nids will throw bugs at you, and the Necrons will calculate the greatest threat, wipe it out, and then turn on the second greatest threat. They won't 'ally' with you per se, they'll just see you as a lesser threat, and it would be in their best interests not to have to fight on two front, but to focus on killing off the main threat first.

Dark Eldar may ally with pirate fleets or mercenaries, using them as distractions or cannon fodder. But that allegiance will not last.

Vet Sgt Ezekiel wrote:I'm amazed the compelling evidence that supports the Tau and Necrons hasn't resulted in a landslide voting victory of said same chums.

Come on folks, you know it makes sense.

I voted eldar and Tau as the eldar need an alliance and they have nothing against them and the Tau would welcome anybody with open arms (except orks, too many negotiators lost on them).

1hadhq wrote:

Vet Sgt Ezekiel wrote:I'm amazed the compelling evidence that supports the Tau and Necrons hasn't resulted in a landslide voting victory of said same chums.

Come on folks, you know it makes sense.

They're in 2nd place on the poll Mr Facepalm.

Vet Sgt Ezekiel wrote:I'm amazed the compelling evidence that supports the Tau and Necrons hasn't resulted in a landslide voting victory of said same chums.

It all started when the Necrons popped in to see if they could borrow a can of WD40....

@ VSE:
So how many times did someone not logged in vote?

Its sadly no surprise to see a poll driven down the road of no return to usefulness.
Poor OP....

BloodQuest wrote:

Vet Sgt Ezekiel wrote:I'm amazed the compelling evidence that supports the Tau and Necrons hasn't resulted in a landslide voting victory of said same chums.

It all started when the Necrons popped in to see if they could borrow a can of WD40....

Do the Tau drink tea? I wonder if they have inbuilt inverters that would power a kettle.........

Mind you a lot of the tau stuff looks like it was made by Russell Hobbs. Curious.

Imperial Guard and Space Marines.

I can has cookie?

1hadhq wrote:@ VSE:
So how many times did someone not logged in vote?

Its sadly no surprise to see a poll driven down the road of no return to usefulness.
Poor OP....

I did try this tactic but it doesn't work. You have to use different computers and different work terminals don't thingy either. Probably an IP address thingy or some other quasi Necrau tech.

I am pretty sure you can vote once per day if not logged in from a mobile phone with web access...


And a Cookie for Henners91. Please choose 1:

( and 0 cookies for the Necrau/taucron faction )

1hadhq wrote:I am pretty sure you can vote once per day if not logged in from a mobile phone with web access...

Nice one. Tau/Necron for the win.

Of the ones you listed the only ones I could ever see happen "knowingly by both parties on a somewhat regular basis" would be: Eldar and Tau; Dark Eldar and Chaos Marines; Daemons and Dark Eldar. The Dakr Eldar will team with anyone if pain and torture were involved. The Tau would team with Eldar or Imperium if the end result would be for the greater good.

Of the others I could see these occuring only in a truely desperate situation: Orks and Chaos Space Marines; Imperial Guard and Eldar (Only if no Commisars or Inquisition forces were anywhere nearby); Eldar and Space Marines. The Orks hate/want to fight everyone and the Imperium trusts nobody, even other Imperial Troops. However, based on some fluff these have, on a limited scale, appeared to have occured on occassion.

The others I cannot see happening under any circumstances, unless one side is unaware of the actual identity and nature of who they are allying with.

Orks will ally with anyone if the promise is of a better fight than they'd have otherwise; you just have to make yourself scarce before they eventually run out of fighting and turn on you.

I said Eldar and Space marines,een how it happens alot not for long but it still an alliance no matter how short lived.

People actually voted for Tau and Necrons? That hilarious.

There are only 3 forces that would ever consider allying themselves (temporeraly) in very desperate times.
Eldar.
Imperium .
Tau .

Mordoskul wrote:People actually voted for Tau and Necrons? That hilarious.

I should think that anything so glaringly obvious as the Tau/Necron alliance would have garnered at least 75% of the vote. Frankly, I'm concerned about Dakka Dakka's grasp of the 40k fluff.

Monster Rain wrote:

Mordoskul wrote:People actually voted for Tau and Necrons? That hilarious.

I should think that anything so glaringly obvious as the Tau/Necron alliance would have garnered at least 75% of the vote. Frankly, I'm concerned about Dakka Dakka's grasp of the 40k fluff.

Dark Eldar and Daemons is a bit farfetched too.

Tau+eldar all the way.

nickmund wrote:There are only 3 forces that would ever consider allying themselves (temporeraly) in very desperate times.

You should re-read Codex: Dark Eldar then, especially the part where DE and Tau ally...

I think the alliance with the "(seriously? WTF)" thing next to it should be the Space marines and Chaos space marines. That will just never happen...... EVER

No reunion then?

Daemon-Archon Ren wrote:

nickmund wrote:There are only 3 forces that would ever consider allying themselves (temporeraly) in very desperate times.

You should re-read Codex: Dark Eldar then, especially the part where DE and Tau ally...

That sounds like some of the most rediculous fluff written. Why would the Tau and Dark Eldar ally with each other? The Tau for the greater good and Dark Eldar for pain and suffering, the two just dont mix. The Dark Eldar dont have any interest in allying themsleves with anyone, they would rather enslave than form an alliance.
And the Tau would'nt ally themselves with the Dark Eldar because they would be so horrifide at what the dark eldar do, it goes against everything they stand for.

nickmund wrote:

Daemon-Archon Ren wrote:

nickmund wrote:There are only 3 forces that would ever consider allying themselves (temporeraly) in very desperate times.

You should re-read Codex: Dark Eldar then, especially the part where DE and Tau ally...

That sounds like some of the most rediculous fluff written. Why would the Tau and Dark Eldar ally with each other? The Tau for the greater good and Dark Eldar for pain and suffering, the two just dont mix. The Dark Eldar dont have any interest in allying themsleves with anyone, they would rather enslave than form an alliance.
And the Tau would'nt ally themselves with the Dark Eldar because they would be so horrifide at what the dark eldar do, it goes against everything they stand for.

The Dark Eldar offered to help the Tau out of a tight spot, and all they asked for in return was a contingent of Tau to come and live with the Dark Eldar in a sort of cultural exchange. Of course, the Tau that went were never heard from again... though the Dark Eldar force was seen sporting a lot of off-coour blue Grotesques not long afterwards...

You see, the problem with over-simplifying the racial motivations of an entire species spread over multiple worlds is that you forget that the proverbial devil is in the detail. In this particular instance, the Tau likely had no idea just how horrific the Dark Eldar are, and were really in need of a saviour.

So its more of a ruse rather than an alliance.

nickmund wrote:So its more of a ruse rather than an alliance.

Depends how you define "alliance", who's perspective these things are looked at from etc. As I say, boiling races down to a few stereo-typical attributes and governing every dealing they have with the universe from that little island is only going to upset you. You can *always* rationalise the fluff if you are willing to do a little imaginative legwork.

Im just amazed the Tau could be so stupid.

Oooh look at that sinister looking spikey armoured psycopath
he seems like a nice enough chap.

I still think that chaos space marines would ally with basically anyone, if the opportunity came up. Unfortunately, most chaos space marines are disturbingly efficent killers, and the mere sight of their slaughter and power would scare most inferior soldiers to death.

Eldar would be petrified
Tau would be petrified
Imperial guard would just die at the sight of them
Loyalist Space Marines would probably just try their best to kill them, even though it's hopeless. Chaos is immortal
Inquisition would probably do very little to hinder them
Dark eldar....Hmm......It's possible that the DE might not actually be bothered too much by them...But that would bother the CSM, and they would kill the little ers.


You guys should seriously read Dark Apostle....Best 40k book I've ever read. Anthony Reynolds is a wonderful writer, and I hope he writes more word bearers stuff.

nickmund wrote:Im just amazed the Tau could be so stupid.

They were stupid in that they weren't with their #1 ally, the Necrons!

TAUCRON!

Daemon-Archon Ren wrote:

nickmund wrote:Im just amazed the Tau could be so stupid.

They were stupid in that they weren't with their #1 ally, the Necrons!

TAUCRON!

Who writes this crap?!

BloodQuest wrote:It all started when the Necrons popped in to see if they could borrow a can of WD40....

The Tau came to the door wearing a tiny negligee...

BloodQuest wrote:

BloodQuest wrote:It all started when the Necrons popped in to see if they could borrow a can of WD40....

The Tau came to the door wearing a tiny negligee...

....and fishnet tights.

BloodQuest wrote:

BloodQuest wrote:It all started when the Necrons popped in to see if they could borrow a can of WD40....

The Tau came to the door wearing a tiny negligee...

"Is that a Warscythe you're holding... or are you just pleased to see me?"

You want to hear a joke?

Necrons allieing with anyone.

Mordoskul wrote:You want to hear a joke?

Necrons allieing with anyone.

That's true as much as it is amusing. As we all know Necrons wouldn't ally with ANYONE.

Apart from Tau.

As in the fluff.

Besides which, you people who refuse to see the truth of the Taucrons are using an extremely narrow definition of the term "allied".

Has anyone mentioned tauquest yet? That's some definitive proof right there

Mordoskul wrote:You want to hear a joke?

Necrons allieing with anyone.

Actually that depends how you define "alliance", what the situation is, what else is happening etc.

In the Cadian Campaign during the 13th Black Crusade for instance small forces of Necrons repeatedly appeared and helped Imperial Guard forces fight off the Chaos hordes when they were attacking the Cadian Pylons.

Looking at these things in a vacuum and stating "no, nevah!" is just as silly as saying "and the the Emperor and Khorne sat down for tea".

Tau and Eldar

Im not saying it would last very long though. they would team up to fight something that threatened them. ie tyranids.
the tau would just be trying to convert the eldar to the greater good and then the eldar would just disappear, coz thats what they do

I said Eldar and Tau becuse they both might agree upon the greater good, Eldar are like that ya know

Xyptc wrote:

Mordoskul wrote:You want to hear a joke?

Necrons allieing with anyone.

Actually that depends how you define "alliance", what the situation is, what else is happening etc.

In the Cadian Campaign during the 13th Black Crusade for instance small forces of Necrons repeatedly appeared and helped Imperial Guard forces fight off the Chaos hordes when they were attacking the Cadian Pylons.

Looking at these things in a vacuum and stating "no, nevah!" is just as silly as saying "and the the Emperor and Khorne sat down for tea".

I think you'll find that the Emperor did in fact have a natter with Khorne and the other Chaos gods He had to in order to create the primarchs and end the warp storms that happened prior to the great crusade.

Much like the Ethereals must have done with the CTan to secure an alliance with the Taucrons/Necrau.

Long live fluff!