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Would you be a heretic? @ 2010/12/13 16:40:02


Post by: Malice


Hey all, this thread is to ask would you be a heretic, and if yes why.

I would'nt, the risks are just too great, death spawnhood and failure all lead to eternal damnation, sure becoming an immortal daemon is nice and all but its no use if you are dead. And of course, there are the morals," now now, killing thousands to become immortal is not nice"


Would you be a heretic? @ 2010/12/13 16:47:23


Post by: Corax


I would not if I was an IG trooper. I probably would if I were a Space Marine. Especially for Tzeentch!


Would you be a heretic? @ 2010/12/13 16:48:52


Post by: blood reaper


If IG yes and if a Space marine HELL YEAH!


Would you be a heretic? @ 2010/12/13 17:04:24


Post by: LordWynne


Hell yeah to all the above, even if I was a low ranking Traitor Guardsman...I would still do my duty to Khorne my Lord.


Would you be a heretic? @ 2010/12/13 17:07:40


Post by: 1hadhq


Never, ever.

Imperator Gloriam.


Would you be a heretic? @ 2010/12/13 17:10:31


Post by: DeepBeige


Immortality is a terrible enough prospect in reality. In 40k that's basically the worst thing you could ever experience. Honestly, what is appealing about becoming a Chaos demon? That the crap is wrong with you people?


Would you be a heretic? @ 2010/12/13 17:25:27


Post by: Mr Nobody


I would stay loyal to the imperium. It might be a horrible life, but it's for the survival of our species. Heretics try to bring about the end of the imperium.


Would you be a heretic? @ 2010/12/13 17:35:58


Post by: TheLinguist


I would definitely be one of those people that simply fall to the promise of power and eternal life. And suddenly; Tzeentch. Ability to use magic and immortality. Damn. And I would probably strive for ascension to Daemonhood and be granted my own planet to rule over. WITH WARP MAGIC!


Would you be a heretic? @ 2010/12/13 17:46:43


Post by: Corax


TheLinguist wrote:I would definitely be one of those people that simply fall to the promise of power and eternal life. And suddenly; Tzeentch. Ability to use magic and immortality. Damn. And I would probably strive for ascension to Daemonhood and be granted my own planet to rule over. WITH WARP MAGIC!


For Tzeentch, I'll do anything. Provided I'm not a mere guardsman.


Would you be a heretic? @ 2010/12/13 17:49:46


Post by: Blackskullandy


I reckon i already am... Not in a 'Worshipping squelchy things from the immaterium' kinda way, more in the way of a general independence of thought, a problem with authorities kind of heresy... Technically heresy, but the Inquisition will take out the gnarly spikey heretics first and i'll sneak off.... Bwahahahahaha!


Would you be a heretic? @ 2010/12/13 18:07:27


Post by: DeepBeige


I doubt I'd stay loyal to the imperium, as it pretty much sucks. But Chaos is strictly a no-go. The "rewards" are pretty much all terrible. I haven't seen a situation where a Chaos Daemon seemed genuinely happy or content with life.

I'd probably try to go Rogue Trader or join the Tau or something like that. Pirates are always several degrees cooler than Daemons, and the Tau treat humans significantly better than humans treat humans.

If 40k literature has taught me anything, it's that Daemons have two primary emotions:
1. Fury and Rage
2. Being bored with Fury and Rage
Neither option is enjoyable.


Would you be a heretic? @ 2010/12/13 18:58:05


Post by: Lexx


TheLinguist wrote:I would definitely be one of those people that simply fall to the promise of power and eternal life. And suddenly; Tzeentch. Ability to use magic and immortality. Damn. And I would probably strive for ascension to Daemonhood and be granted my own planet to rule over. WITH WARP MAGIC!


But you speak of a tiny minority that get granted that. Your more likely to get too many "gifts" and become an immortal, unthinking spawn till you get shot to pieces as a shock troop on some battlefront than elevate yourself to owning a daemonworld.


Would you be a heretic? @ 2010/12/13 18:58:26


Post by: Grey Templar


Burn heritic

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Would you be a heretic? @ 2010/12/13 19:07:24


Post by: yeenoghu


I think a 40k 'heretic' is probably similar to a 'heretic' in medieval Europe, as in, anyone who disagrees with the church being in charge of everything. The church defines who is a heretic and who isn't, and it usually goes hand-in-hand with anyone who challenges their authority. I doubt if the Empreror would admonish heretics (first guy to say "no. Don't worship 'gods'), any more than Jesus would approve of witch burning, but you bet the ecclesiarchy would, just as the Spanish Inquisition would, in the name of the Jesus or the Emperor or whatever.

So HELL yeah I would be a heretic. Even my name is used nowadays as the Demon Lord of Gnolls from a blasphemous RPG that was accused of turning kids to satan worship in the early 80s. I am guessing that the fictional RPG Yeenoghu is probably a minion of Khorne if he were in 40k. Well, that RPG is actually based on ME. The real ME not the abyssal spawned avatar I represent myself with here. They got a few details wrong in the 1st ed. monster manual (I am slightly under 9' tall, and my flail has shorter chains) but yeah that's the real me they based it off of, in all my hyena-faced glory. That's why I have to use the internet to communicate with mortals (and seduce their kids to satanic interests - like the kid who's mug I use as my Avatar).

Go heresy go! Without heresy, there would be no Slayer, only Amy Grant.


Would you be a heretic? @ 2010/12/13 22:31:25


Post by: Mr Nobody


Does joining the Tau count as being a heretic? If so, then yes, I would join the Tau and be a heretic.

Though they seem to have secret agendas, the life style isn't that bad. Join the earth caste and stay away from the fighting, or maybe the air caste.


Would you be a heretic? @ 2010/12/13 22:34:12


Post by: DA's Forever


Mr Nobody wrote: Heretics try to bring about the end of the imperium.


Unless, you kno your part of the, uhmmm *cough* alpha legion *cough*


Would you be a heretic? @ 2010/12/13 22:34:44


Post by: purplefood


I wouldn't be a heretic heretic but i wouldn't properly believe... probably die pretty quick.


Would you be a heretic? @ 2010/12/13 23:02:20


Post by: Lord Chiasson


I would not be a heretic, although my lifespan as a normal person would probably be 30 if im lucky I can see the whole purpose of the IoM and what they do and all so why would I go and betray my race for some God that's just going to cast me to some horrible torture if I fail, when the IoM will at least have the mercy to blow my head off or turn me into to an unthinking robot where I wont even be able comprehend my regret of failing . And I could be a Space Marine perhaps


Would you be a heretic? @ 2010/12/13 23:29:54


Post by: DEUS VULT


I'm not mad at daddy enough to be a heretic.
Imperium is the only way to fly.


Would you be a heretic? @ 2010/12/13 23:57:17


Post by: ChaosGalvatron


I could if it was a slippery slope situation, just doing things a little bit evil and slowly gets worse. I couldnt go straight to KILL! BATHE IN THEIR BLOOD! MURDER! TORTURE!
Im a bit old now for space marine conversion, so i would have to work my way up to daemon prince the hard (ie impossible) way.

Edited to avoid the rollover hint text.


Would you be a heretic? @ 2010/12/14 00:23:22


Post by: asimo77


I'd probably end up on chaos without realizing it before it's too late. I don't think I'd ever willingly do it or at least not from the get go, but maybe I'll learn to embrace my new path at some point and its many many tentacles.

Or maybe I'll live a tortured, regretful, hypocrisy-laden life constantly hating what I've become

grimdark 40k is grimdark


Would you be a heretic? @ 2010/12/14 00:33:53


Post by: Avatar 720


If I was able to do so and slaughter innocents for the Blood God without the fear of being sniped by a long las as soon as I draw my weapon, then hell yeah. But as long as I die without causing the deaths of many others... Not sure what i'd get for that...

I imagine it'd be like losing those gameshows like wheel of fortune and the price is right: "Ooooh so close there! Let's see what you could've won..."


Would you be a heretic? @ 2010/12/14 00:35:25


Post by: EmilCrane


Not in a Dan Abnett book I wouldn't...

But no, no matter how bad the imperium is chaos is always worse, at least in the imperium I have people who will fight to defend me.


Would you be a heretic? @ 2010/12/14 00:58:28


Post by: Khorne Flakes


Both boxes checked off!
KHORNE KILLMAIMBURNKILLMAIMBURKILLMAIMBURNKILLMAIMBURNKILLMAIMBURNKILLMAIMBURNKILLMAIMBURNKILLMAIMBURNKILLMAIMBURNKILLMAIMBURNKILLMAIMBURN


Would you be a heretic? @ 2010/12/14 04:34:15


Post by: shealyr


I could see myself becoming a Champion of Malal.

Fight everyone, Chaos and Loyalist alike. Be the one and only badass mofo for Malal until he's done with me.

And best of all, no eternal Daemonhood to bore me with a life of failing. Just going out in a blaze of glory for my patron god who ultimately turns on me just as I turned on humanity.


Would you be a heretic? @ 2010/12/14 04:35:52


Post by: A Black Ram


I already am one.


Would you be a heretic? @ 2010/12/14 10:53:07


Post by: Corax


EmilCrane wrote:But no, no matter how bad the imperium is chaos is always worse, at least in the imperium I have people who will fight to defend me.

Actually they fight for the Emperor. Most of them (Refering to the space marines) don't care if you die or not. Chaos, on the other hand.. Heh. You fight and kill for a greater purpose, plus you don't have uber strict laws to adhere to. Just be sure to watch your step.


Would you be a heretic? @ 2010/12/14 19:27:34


Post by: Brother Heinrich


In a Slaaneshi minute!


Would you be a heretic? @ 2010/12/15 08:32:06


Post by: Malice


Yeah, if i was an ig i would NEVER even consider becoming heretic as they have no chance, and unless a thunderhawk lands on earth to take me away before april then theres no chance of space marine for me.

But tau are a good idea.


Would you be a heretic? @ 2010/12/15 09:03:08


Post by: Emperors Faithful


The Chaos Gods and their goals are inimicial to the well being of humanity. So no.


Would you be a heretic? @ 2010/12/15 09:33:27


Post by: undivided


In a heartbeat.

Impurity shall be our armour.
Hate shall be our weapon.
Immortality shall be our reward.


Would you be a heretic? @ 2010/12/15 09:34:33


Post by: Ed_Bodger


Joining Chaos is kind of like this:



Would you be a heretic? @ 2010/12/16 08:37:45


Post by: gorkamork


I would be a RT.

Because I am not interested in:
A thousand poxes on my face.
Or an extra set of breasts on my face.
Or a set of brass horns with an axe attached on my face.
Or an extra flame-spewing winged arm attached to breasts on my face.


Would you be a heretic? @ 2010/12/16 16:22:02


Post by: Malice


The amount of heretics here, dont you get a clue from the fact that one in 3000 marines become a daemon prince, the rest being condemed to eternal torture/ spawnhood


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oh and what the guy above me said


Would you be a heretic? @ 2010/12/17 05:16:11


Post by: ChaosGalvatron


Well its not like been part of the imperium is all flowers and sunshine. Dont need to be a daemon prince, just enjoy a life of chaos and see how it goes.
Though im not sure i want a winged arm on my face breasts either.


Would you be a heretic? @ 2010/12/17 05:18:35


Post by: EmilCrane


Corax wrote:
EmilCrane wrote:But no, no matter how bad the imperium is chaos is always worse, at least in the imperium I have people who will fight to defend me.

Actually they fight for the Emperor. Most of them (Refering to the space marines) don't care if you die or not. Chaos, on the other hand.. Heh. You fight and kill for a greater purpose, plus you don't have uber strict laws to adhere to. Just be sure to watch your step.


Was talking about the good space marines and the imperial guard.


Would you be a heretic? @ 2010/12/20 04:34:12


Post by: WARORK93


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Would you be a heretic? @ 2010/12/20 06:26:20


Post by: VictorVonTzeentch


WARORK93 wrote:No, To be aligned with chaos is to be a puppet plaything of the dark gods

The imperium is far from perfect but its our last best hope for humanity

Ave Imperator!




Yet to be aligned with the Emperor is to be a puppet plaything of a Corpse on a Chair. I will follow in the footsteps of the Night Haunter, to hell with the Corpse God and the same with the Dark Gods. Only reluctantly or with out my knowing would I begin that decent. So yes I would be a heretic.


Would you be a heretic? @ 2010/12/20 07:10:11


Post by: Happygrunt


Mr Nobody wrote:I would stay loyal to the imperium. It might be a horrible life, but it's for the survival of our species. Heretics try to bring about the end of the imperium.


This. And immortality kinda sucks. You cant love or have friends, as you will be forced to outlive them, and as this is 40k, probably watch them die.


Would you be a heretic? @ 2010/12/20 14:45:41


Post by: TheLinguist


bella lin wrote:hello friends,
I'm a new comer here.I'm bella. nice to meet you and join you.


But are you a heretic?


Would you be a heretic? @ 2010/12/20 15:32:15


Post by: Grey Templar


look out it's another of those Chinese Trolls.

look, there is a link unrelated to wargaming in its sig.


Would you be a heretic? @ 2010/12/20 16:45:05


Post by: WARORK93


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Would you be a heretic? @ 2010/12/20 17:08:32


Post by: DickBandit


Probably so because I have a high interest in art and philosophy and expression of individuality. The imperium would swear up and and down that I was possessed by Slaneesh.


Would you be a heretic? @ 2010/12/20 18:45:28


Post by: Warlord Gazghkull Thraka


I wouldn't. I'd be loyal to the emperor!


Would you be a heretic? @ 2010/12/20 19:21:41


Post by: Happygrunt


Grey Templar wrote:look out it's another of those Chinese Trolls.

look, there is a link unrelated to wargaming in its sig.


CONTACT! TAKE IT DOWN!

How do these trolls keep getting in. We have Gwar to do our trolling, we dont need anymore.


Would you be a heretic? @ 2010/12/22 18:49:42


Post by: Ronin-Sage


I would definitely not serve Chaos, but probably still be branded a heretic for my controversial viewpoints.

Personally, I would prefer to be a 'shadow Samaritan', of sorts, wandering the galaxy, attempting to do good, the system be damned.


Would you be a heretic? @ 2010/12/22 18:58:41


Post by: CommissarCandlestick


1hadhq wrote:Never, ever.

Imperator Gloriam.


I agree with this entirely! Pro Imperator Supremus Totus (though if I did worship Chaos, I'd follow Nurgle (I'd be immune to pain and the effects of disease!))!


Would you be a heretic? @ 2010/12/22 20:16:42


Post by: Klawz


TheLinguist wrote:
bella lin wrote:hello friends,
I'm a new comer here.I'm bella. nice to meet you and join you.


But are you a heretic?
Sigged.


Would you be a heretic? @ 2010/12/23 00:47:35


Post by: Rynsester


I would side with Chaos. Might be a little short life if I was a traitor guardsman but same can be said about the loyal ones. If I was a space marine I would try to join up with the Iron Warriors or the Black Legion. The thought of raiding imperial planets is just too appealing. Plus there's the chance of living for thousands of years or forever.


Would you be a heretic? @ 2010/12/23 01:03:31


Post by: camboyaz


It's the only way to be sure...

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Would you be a heretic? @ 2010/12/23 03:16:43


Post by: Luco


I would be. I'd end up being more loyal to the community than to offworlders and as more come I'd start down the same path as the Night Lords. Thugs/commissar/guardsman harrassing the market vendors? In the morning there will be nothing left but a blood stain and a pair of pants made of skin.


Would you be a heretic? @ 2010/12/23 04:02:41


Post by: AgeOfEgos


Of course, there is no path to immortality as a loyalist. Live forever, sleep with Daemonettes for eternity? Let me grab my pen.


Would you be a heretic? @ 2010/12/23 16:29:46


Post by: Mit Gas


Depends on what I'd be. A regular Imperial citizen probably has a good life, no all of them have to fight.

But if you were born in a zone of constant war like many are, I can imagine that I would pray to the Dark Gods for power. To defend myself and the ones I care about. A noble fall but a fall nonetheless and Daddy Tzeentch would laugh for having a new puppet.

If I were a Space Marine, hell yeah, I'd go renegade! I don't wanna die any minute on some random battlefield, I'd rather chill somewhere and be a huge coward who just plans evil missions or something. Only idiots are in the front lines!


Would you be a heretic? @ 2010/12/23 19:16:47


Post by: WARORK93


Mit Gas wrote:Depends on what I'd be. A regular Imperial citizen probably has a good life, no all of them have to fight.

But if you were born in a zone of constant war like many are, I can imagine that I would pray to the Dark Gods for power. To defend myself and the ones I care about. A noble fall but a fall nonetheless and Daddy Tzeentch would laugh for having a new puppet.

If I were a Space Marine, hell yeah, I'd go renegade! I don't wanna die any minute on some random battlefield, I'd rather chill somewhere and be a huge coward who just plans evil missions or something. Only idiots are in the front lines!


wow, that was..................noble.


Would you be a heretic? @ 2010/12/27 08:04:49


Post by: ChronoCupcake


I'd probably be inadvertently corrupted regardless of if i was a guardsmen or a marine Id be intensely loyal to the imperium and the emperor but when push comes to shove Id end up doing something that sets me on the path of corruption i.e Draw on more psychic power then i can consciously handle to smite a foe, use a daemon weapon to kill a otherwise unstoppable enemy or practise some kind of illicit method of increasing my own psychic power. Id basically be that isador guy from Dawn of war, until eventually Id end up so confused and mismatched by warp influence id end up serving one of the chaos gods or others.


Would you be a heretic? @ 2010/12/27 09:01:47


Post by: Mukkin'About


I would probably be one of those radical inquisitor types
You know, instead of black or white.. Go grey!
Not bound to the restrictions of dogma and superstition.. Instead able to fight fire with fire so to speak


Would you be a heretic? @ 2010/12/29 13:29:40


Post by: Gent the Mad Cap


I think the time frame changes the answer to that question. If we focused right before the HH I would go in the same direction as my Primarch. The Primarch seems to be referred to as a father figure to the Marines he leads. Most of them would listen to his guidance and views. Being a former infantryman I have had a huge amount of respect for some of my leaders which could have lead me to question a figurehead that left in the middle of the job. Frankly I feel that the mutiny was justified in the Emperor’s leaving to play bureaucrat back home when his men would have fought without weapons at his command.

Post Heresy seems kind of silly at times looking at the religious moments in the books. One side has a figure that is strapped to a wheel chair like a super psychic Stephen Hawking that nobody sees. Ok I will admit that people the 40k universe believe that they heard his voice but we have had people that experienced similar situations in the past century and we call them cult leaders. The other, Chaos, has the ability to deliver a raw power that many people would have a hard time to looking at and denying as it is summoned around you. Religion alone can have a huge impact on the society not just in its roots and laws but the mindset of the followers both practicing or not.

Just using real life as the example to show that many people today would be considered heretics by the Imperium standards; how many of the people that use this forum have served in their own countries protecting the ideals and the society shouting battle cries that ring with loyalty till death for their political leaders or worship that country’s dominant religion?

Personally, being a fan of the rock and roll orgy train know as the Emperor's Children, I would in a heartbeat sport some pink shoulder pads and a Doom Siren to walk around like Ozzy stumbling in a film shoot with Chasey Lain. Or looking at the religious fanatical Word Bearers I know a chaplains job that would equal the cats pajamas. (I love a good zealot; they always seem to be so passionate and crazy) Which side of the fence is this nerd on? Hmm... What has two thumbs and would serve the Dark Gods? This guy.


Would you be a heretic? @ 2010/12/29 13:45:42


Post by: Laughing God


Yes.

Morality means little to me in a galaxy were I know I will be rewarded for doing the will of thirsting gods. Thou its a gamble and I might just be a damned soul for all eternity or transformed into spawn I'd rather risk that than dieing a inglorious death of a guardsman and having my soul eaten anyway by some horrifying monster on some far off world...


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bella lin wrote:hello friends,
I'm a new comer here.I'm bella. nice to meet you and join you.


WELCOME!....odd place to make ur first post? lol


Would you be a heretic? @ 2010/12/29 14:31:06


Post by: mrwhoop


Nope, all heretics get is madness and sorrow. Been to proposed rules, plenty of sorrow already thanks.


Would you be a heretic? @ 2010/12/30 14:10:48


Post by: Brother Heinrich


mrwhoop wrote:Nope, all heretics get is madness and sorrow. Been to proposed rules, plenty of sorrow already thanks.

not if you're smart about it, think corrupt planetary governor or guard general, and besides even if you are a run of the mill cultist what does it matter, you're having the time of your life!


Would you be a heretic? @ 2010/12/30 15:05:07


Post by: ArtfcllyFlvrd


Mr Nobody wrote:I would stay loyal to the imperium. It might be a horrible life, but it's for the survival of our species. Heretics try to bring about the end of the imperium.


Because the imperium is holding humanity back. The species is experiencing a psychic awakening, and the only way to defeat the ever more numerous enemies of man is to embrace the powers of chaos and use them to complete the conquest of the galaxy.


Would you be a heretic? @ 2010/12/30 15:53:26


Post by: xxmatt85


HERESY!


Would you be a heretic? @ 2010/12/30 19:22:45


Post by: Shrouger


You are all aware that serving Chaos is typically extremely painful, right? To ascend to Daemonhood, you must endure an agonizing realignment of your various limbs and body parts, and to get to that point you need to suffer unimaginable pain (especially if you serve Khorne/Slaneesh).

Additionally, you would be just as expendable as under the Imperium, with sadistic commanders to boot. In their depravity, they would likely send you uphill directly into a heavy support team simply for the fun of it; very, very, few heretics ever achieve a role of power. Your best hope is to be killed quickly by a boltgun, lest you attract the attention of the Sisters of Battle and roast slowly on a pyre.

For all it's failings, I think I would serve the IoM.

+This Message Approved By The Emperor's Holy Inquisition+


Would you be a heretic? @ 2011/01/02 03:52:47


Post by: The Ghoma


I would become a heretic and chill with Kharn, he's a heck of a guy


Would you be a heretic? @ 2011/01/02 04:44:02


Post by: grayspark


The Ghoma wrote:I would become a heretic and chill with Kharn, he's a heck of a guy


And then Kharn would kill you. . .

I would probably be an Inquisitor trying to gain power over chaos rather than be chaos.
There are plenty of times where it is mentioned that using chaos safely can make you powerful, like in the DaemonHunters codex.


Would you be a heretic? @ 2011/01/02 07:48:59


Post by: Bwolf999


Totally serve the Emperor! or.... be green and hit stuff


Would you be a heretic? @ 2011/01/02 21:43:24


Post by: Alex Lee


Not right away. But due to my nature, I'd probably start a slippery slope down towards Slaanesh, and not even realize it before it's too late, if I realized it at all.

As it has been stated previously, being a citizen in the Imperium of Man sucks ass, but think about this: The heretics are the scum and lowlives of the Imperium, they're alone. + they have sucky lives. Unless they were high ranking Slaanesh, then their lives would suck, but they'd love it and thank the Lord of Excess for it.


Would you be a heretic? @ 2011/01/02 23:15:59


Post by: ChronoCupcake


grayspark wrote:
The Ghoma wrote:I would become a heretic and chill with Kharn, he's a heck of a guy


And then Kharn would kill you. . .

I would probably be an Inquisitor trying to gain power over chaos rather than be chaos.
There are plenty of times where it is mentioned that using chaos safely can make you powerful, like in the DaemonHunters codex.


You can never use chaos "safely" its a slippery slope in the codex it talks about how some extremist inquisitors attempt to use chaos weapons or chaos knowledge against chaos, but your simply just exposing yourself to the taint I like to think of it as radiation, after a certain amount of exposure ANY human will be corrupted / killed we just all have different thresholds.


Would you be a heretic? @ 2011/01/02 23:17:57


Post by: Asherian Command


I am Chaos Killer. I kill chaos. I hate chaos.


Would you be a heretic? @ 2011/01/02 23:19:06


Post by: Eldrad


i would be part of the purge


Would you be a heretic? @ 2011/01/02 23:52:15


Post by: samwellfrm


If the circumstances allowed, I would either become a rogue trader or join the Tau.

As a common Imperial citizen, I'd most likely drink the cool-aid and bask in ignorance. Just like the Ecclesiarchy says, "Ignorance is power."

Hopefully I wouldn't end up working for the Administratum. A job like that is the worst thing imaginable. I'd probably try to run away and become an underhive vigilante bounty hunter.

As far as chaos, I would never consider it. It's just too grotesque. I am content having the amount of limbs I have now, and I don't want to burn runes into my skin.



Would you be a heretic? @ 2011/01/02 23:52:44


Post by: Asherian Command


Rouge Trader for me


Would you be a heretic? @ 2011/01/03 00:00:23


Post by: Bloodfrenzy187


I would stay loyal to the imperium of man.


Would you be a heretic? @ 2011/01/03 00:36:08


Post by: Warboss Imbad Ironskull


DeepBeige wrote:Immortality is a terrible enough prospect in reality. In 40k that's basically the worst thing you could ever experience. Honestly, what is appealing about becoming a Chaos
demon? That the crap is wrong with you people?


But this isn't reality and I'm unsure how it's the worst thing you could ever experience in 40k?

For me it depends on what type of heretic because there is more then just following chaos. There is deffecting to the Tau Empire or even just going off on your own seperate from everyone which the Imperium sees as being a heretic all the same.

If we're just talking Chaos the if I was a Space Marine then yes I would since Space Marines tend to have a better foot hold on the process and aren't so much cannon fodder as mortals. If I wasen't a Space Marine then no I woulden't unless I came into chaos by being turned into a chaos marine and if that happened I would already be a up, son of a in order to join them .


Would you be a heretic? @ 2011/01/03 05:11:38


Post by: theduncan


BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!!!


Would you be a heretic? @ 2011/01/03 05:22:05


Post by: Doctor Optimal


Mukkin'About wrote:I would probably be one of those radical inquisitor types
You know, instead of black or white.. Go grey!
Not bound to the restrictions of dogma and superstition.. Instead able to fight fire with fire so to speak


The choice in 40k isn't "black and white", it's "really really dark grey and ultimate, stygian blackness". Hth.

And my answer is no. Because even between grey and black, there's a choice. Amalathian supremacy. Imperator defendit.


Would you be a heretic? @ 2011/01/27 10:55:53


Post by: Malice


What exactly is a rogue trader?


Would you be a heretic? @ 2011/01/27 11:14:59


Post by: KaraDavut


Such Blasphemy...May the Emperor Protects i am his humble angel of death how can I be a Heretic?
I fear no evil, I fear no Death...

Vinco Redemptor ave nu Dominus Imperator Rex


Would you be a heretic? @ 2011/01/27 13:27:15


Post by: Ashryu


Malice wrote:What exactly is a rogue trader?


http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Rogue_trader




I would join the IG and die gloriously in the service of the Immortal God-Emperor!

Or just get shot by a commissar for soiling myself the first time I saw a real life orc.

In any case, Imperium all the way


Would you be a heretic? @ 2011/01/27 13:45:08


Post by: Mr Hyena


Suffer not the Heretic to live. In His name, I, Nyx Haarn as an Inquisitor of our God-Emperor, will strike down ALL FILTH WHO STANDS BEFORE ME!.

The Emperor Protects. I sentence those who submit to the Daemon to death.

The Emperor Protects.


Would you be a heretic? @ 2011/01/27 13:55:21


Post by: yevix


"I shall suck the marrow from your bones, work it most cunningly into musical instruments, and every time I play upon them, your soul shall scream in formless agony!"



Would you be a heretic? @ 2011/01/27 15:14:09


Post by: Mustela


I would be a Grey Knight who turns to Malal - makes becomming a Daemon Prince MUCH easier.


Would you be a heretic? @ 2011/01/27 15:22:13


Post by: Red Comet


I would never turn from the Imperium of Man it'd be like turning against your own kind and no one likes traitors.

Also why would you want to be a Daemon? Do you really want to look like that for the rest of your life?


Would you be a heretic? @ 2011/01/27 15:25:25


Post by: Mustela


Red Comet wrote:I would never turn from the Imperium of Man it'd be like turning against your own kind and no one likes traitors.

Also why would you want to be a Daemon? Do you really want to look like that for the rest of your life?


1) My fellow traitors would like me... I think... maybe... if I killed lots of daemons...

2) People have wnated stranger things...


Would you be a heretic? @ 2011/01/27 15:26:47


Post by: Sir Pseudonymous


I've got to go with the radical inquisitor line of thinking, either Xanthite or Istvaanian.

Worshiping the ruinous powers is just outright foolish, not least of which because they care even less about their followers than the Imperium, and the "rewards" they grant come in the form of mutation and daemons to slaughter you.


Would you be a heretic? @ 2011/01/27 15:48:59


Post by: KingDeath


I would probably serve Tzeentch, because: "The only good is knowledge, the only evil is ignorance".


Would you be a heretic? @ 2011/01/27 17:07:02


Post by: Red Comet


Mustela wrote:
Red Comet wrote:I would never turn from the Imperium of Man it'd be like turning against your own kind and no one likes traitors.

Also why would you want to be a Daemon? Do you really want to look like that for the rest of your life?


1) My fellow traitors would like me... I think... maybe... if I killed lots of daemons...

2) People have wnated stranger things...
Your fellow traitors would loathe you the more powerful you became and would most likely attempt to betray you to get closer to daemonhood rather than help you.

I honestly can't think of anything that might be weirder than wanting to look like that.


Would you be a heretic? @ 2011/01/27 17:10:19


Post by: Wardragoon


I'd probably be more of the Renegade inquisitor lol using daemons on daemons just sounds fun


Would you be a heretic? @ 2011/01/27 17:12:43


Post by: Mordoskul


The Great Conspiritor has already chosen me...


Would you be a heretic? @ 2011/01/27 17:18:20


Post by: Mustela


Red Comet wrote:
Mustela wrote:
Red Comet wrote:I would never turn from the Imperium of Man it'd be like turning against your own kind and no one likes traitors.

Also why would you want to be a Daemon? Do you really want to look like that for the rest of your life?


1) My fellow traitors would like me... I think... maybe... if I killed lots of daemons...

2) People have wnated stranger things...
Your fellow traitors would loathe you the more powerful you became and would most likely attempt to betray you to get closer to daemonhood rather than help you.

I honestly can't think of anything that might be weirder than wanting to look like that.


Alright then, crush my dreams.

I can think of many stranger things.


Would you be a heretic? @ 2011/01/27 19:05:55


Post by: Mr Hyena


Do not believe the lies of the Daemon; for the Daemon is fickle and only seeks to work for the Ruinous Powers. To listen to the Daemon is a heresy in itself. Heresies which are an affront to our God-Emperor. Put your faith in the God Emperor and his Imperium and work hard in His name; so that we may stand against the wretched tide of filth and evil that threatens our very existance.

It may take a day, a year, or forever; but eventually the Ordo Malleus will defeat Chaos. When that happens; we; Ordo Hereticus will have expunged every filthy degenerate heretic and will execute him in the name of the Glorious God-Emperors will. The Emperor Protects. ALWAYS. Have faith.


Would you be a heretic? @ 2011/01/27 22:12:18


Post by: Daykinator


I have to say... i have no morals so killing billions of people for godhood... thats gd (does that make me a bad person?) I ='d also worship slannesh as he is the coolest god ^^


Would you be a heretic? @ 2011/01/27 22:31:19


Post by: yevix


Red Comet wrote:I would never turn from the Imperium of Man it'd be like turning against your own kind and no one likes traitors.

Also why would you want to be a Daemon? Do you really want to look like that for the rest of your life?


you do realise daemon are basically immortal, when you kill them they simply return too the warp and get reborn again (if there gods wants too let them return).


Would you be a heretic? @ 2011/01/28 00:52:33


Post by: Mustela


yevix wrote:
Red Comet wrote:I would never turn from the Imperium of Man it'd be like turning against your own kind and no one likes traitors.

Also why would you want to be a Daemon? Do you really want to look like that for the rest of your life?


you do realise daemon are basically immortal, when you kill them they simply return too the warp and get reborn again (if there gods wants too let them return).


yes, and the GD model is pretty cool.


Would you be a heretic? @ 2011/01/28 01:17:55


Post by: NamTaey


Never
These are the things I'd strive to be instead of heresy:
-Space Wolves- Don't really follow Imperial rule and they are
-Rouge Trader- Better than anything chaos can offer

I mean come on people! Look at chaos!!!



Would you be a heretic? @ 2011/01/28 01:21:36


Post by: Wardragoon


NamTaey wrote: Never
These are the things I'd strive to be instead of heresy:
-Space Wolves- Don't really follow Imperial rule and they are
-Rouge Trader- Better than anything chaos can offer

I mean come on people! Look at chaos!!!



Why not Radical Inquisitor, a psyker that is pretty much independent


Would you be a heretic? @ 2011/01/28 01:26:56


Post by: NamTaey


Wardragoon wrote:
NamTaey wrote: Never
These are the things I'd strive to be instead of heresy:
-Space Wolves- Don't really follow Imperial rule and they are
-Rouge Trader- Better than anything chaos can offer

I mean come on people! Look at chaos!!!



Why not Radical Inquisitor, a psyker that is pretty much independent


I don't know, they seem kind of... you know insan* AHHHH!!!! I DIDN"T MEAN IT I"M SORRY I'M AHH!!!!!!!!

*Insane. They don't really float my boat


Would you be a heretic? @ 2011/01/28 01:33:57


Post by: xXSir MontyXx


NamTaey wrote:
Wardragoon wrote:
NamTaey wrote: Never
These are the things I'd strive to be instead of heresy:
-Space Wolves- Don't really follow Imperial rule and they are
-Rouge Trader- Better than anything chaos can offer

I mean come on people! Look at chaos!!!



Why not Radical Inquisitor, a psyker that is pretty much independent


I don't know, they seem kind of... you know insan* AHHHH!!!! I DIDN"T MEAN IT I"M SORRY I'M AHH!!!!!!!!

*Insane. They don't really float my boat


How do you kill Nurgle deamons? they always seem to have some huge gaping grievous wound already that would overkill anyone else.


Would you be a heretic? @ 2011/01/28 01:45:42


Post by: NamTaey


xXSir MontyXx wrote:
NamTaey wrote:
Wardragoon wrote:
NamTaey wrote: Never
These are the things I'd strive to be instead of heresy:
-Space Wolves- Don't really follow Imperial rule and they are
-Rouge Trader- Better than anything chaos can offer

I mean come on people! Look at chaos!!!



Why not Radical Inquisitor, a psyker that is pretty much independent


I don't know, they seem kind of... you know insan* AHHHH!!!! I DIDN"T MEAN IT I"M SORRY I'M AHH!!!!!!!!

*Insane. They don't really float my boat


How do you kill Nurgle deamons? they always seem to have some huge gaping grievous wound already that would overkill anyone else.


I guess you'd have to...

PURIFY IT!


Would you be a heretic? @ 2011/01/28 02:13:24


Post by: Wardragoon


xXSir MontyXx wrote:
NamTaey wrote:
Wardragoon wrote:
NamTaey wrote: Never
These are the things I'd strive to be instead of heresy:
-Space Wolves- Don't really follow Imperial rule and they are
-Rouge Trader- Better than anything chaos can offer

I mean come on people! Look at chaos!!!



Why not Radical Inquisitor, a psyker that is pretty much independent


I don't know, they seem kind of... you know insan* AHHHH!!!! I DIDN"T MEAN IT I"M SORRY I'M AHH!!!!!!!!

*Insane. They don't really float my boat


How do you kill Nurgle deamons? they always seem to have some huge gaping grievous wound already that would overkill anyone else.


I'm thinking you can always do this to them, IG would just use baneblades

[Thumb - 1170234348152qb5.jpg]


Would you be a heretic? @ 2011/01/28 02:19:51


Post by: ZacktheChaosChild


I like to play Chaos, but if 40k were reality, I would reamin loyal to the Imperium.


Would you be a heretic? @ 2011/01/28 03:19:38


Post by: Red Comet


Mustela wrote:
Red Comet wrote:
Mustela wrote:
Red Comet wrote:I would never turn from the Imperium of Man it'd be like turning against your own kind and no one likes traitors.

Also why would you want to be a Daemon? Do you really want to look like that for the rest of your life?


1) My fellow traitors would like me... I think... maybe... if I killed lots of daemons...

2) People have wnated stranger things...
Your fellow traitors would loathe you the more powerful you became and would most likely attempt to betray you to get closer to daemonhood rather than help you.

I honestly can't think of anything that might be weirder than wanting to look like that.


Alright then, crush my dreams.

I can think of many stranger things.
I apologize. I don't mean to crush dreams. Merely put them into perspective.

I'm glad I can't.

yevix wrote:
Red Comet wrote:I would never turn from the Imperium of Man it'd be like turning against your own kind and no one likes traitors.

Also why would you want to be a Daemon? Do you really want to look like that for the rest of your life?


you do realise daemon are basically immortal, when you kill them they simply return too the warp and get reborn again (if there gods wants too let them return).
Yeah I know that, but immortality isn't all that great in my opinion. I view it as a curse not a blessing.


Would you be a heretic? @ 2011/01/28 15:52:14


Post by: Malice


someone explain what a rogue trader actually is please



Automatically Appended Next Post:
Oops allready asked srry


Would you be a heretic? @ 2011/01/28 15:55:09


Post by: Wardragoon


Malice wrote:someone explain what a rogue trader actually is please



Automatically Appended Next Post:
Oops allready asked srry

space explorer pretty much


Would you be a heretic? @ 2011/01/28 16:03:23


Post by: Ashryu


You have to wonder how much the inquisition actually helps if you subtract all the megalomaniac flying rodent gak insane inquisitors from the ones that actually mean well.






BTW if anyone asks I never said this. *runs away*


Would you be a heretic? @ 2011/01/28 16:18:29


Post by: Mr Hyena


You have to wonder how much the inquisition actually helps if you subtract all the megalomaniac flying rodent gak insane inquisitors from the ones that actually mean well.


"The weak will always be led by
the strong. Where the strong cry
out against fate, the weak bow
their heads and succumb. There
are many who are weak and
many are their temptations.
Despise the weak for they flock to
the call of the Daemon and the
Renegade. Pity them not and
scorn their cries of innocence - it
is better that one hundred
innocents fall before the wrath of
the Emperor than one kneels
before the Daemon."

- First Book of Indoctrinations

Wisest words I've ever heard. Suffer not the heretic to live. Glory to the God-Emperor and His Inquisition!


Would you be a heretic? @ 2011/01/28 16:27:54


Post by: Sir Pseudonymous


It's the insane ones that help the most!

That's the funny thing, the Radical's Handbook ostensibly portrays certain factions, particularly the Xanthites and Istvaanians, as sort of gray villains. Except when it goes into detail about their beliefs, and the projects they've enacted, their beliefs are revealed as right. An Inquisitor can use heretical knowledge and devices safely, and strife (on a small scale) does produce stronger, more competent fighters for the Imperium.


Would you be a heretic? @ 2011/01/28 20:25:18


Post by: Melkhiordarkblade


I'd be a heretic.

I rather die living a life,rather than being a slave to the Emperor.

Besides if I become a Daemon Prince I can go have fun waging war for all eternity.


Would you be a heretic? @ 2011/01/28 20:40:29


Post by: Wardragoon


something I do want to note is that the odds of becoming a daemon prince are probably less than becoming the next Alexander the Great, just saying


Would you be a heretic? @ 2011/01/28 20:45:48


Post by: gloomygrim



Chaos nah wtf the point, id hire some ork freebooters and say cock it lets go nuts lol

Orks kick arse chaos licks it lol


Would you be a heretic? @ 2011/01/28 21:58:58


Post by: NamTaey


gloomygrim wrote:
Chaos nah wtf the point, id hire some ork freebooters and say cock it lets go nuts lol

Orks kick arse chaos licks it lol


Well said


Would you be a heretic? @ 2011/01/31 13:11:30


Post by: Malice


This is becoming quite a tread... anybody know the longest dakka tread ever written?

And wisely said, if you serve chaos you lick ass ( o please my lord, may I pretty please have another mutation). If ur ork you give it. If ur emperial you take it in the ass.


Would you be a heretic? @ 2011/01/31 15:17:29


Post by: DarthLakey


I could never be a heretic... because the Emperor IS the one true master of mankind, and is holding back the warp from destroying the universe, so all the other races should worship him as well:
BUT THEY ARE NOT WORTHY!!!!

Imperator Gloriam


Would you be a heretic? @ 2011/01/31 16:10:43


Post by: Lord_Of_Morthan


Of course! I'd rather live with mutations and being ANGRY ALL THE TIME, rather than be sacrificed to some old dead corpse just to keep him 'alive'.
Death to the false Emperor!
... wait.




Would you be a heretic? @ 2011/01/31 16:21:13


Post by: Wardragoon


Lord_Of_Morthan wrote:Of course! I'd rather live with mutations and being ANGRY ALL THE TIME, rather than be sacrificed to some old dead corpse just to keep him 'alive'.
Death to the false Emperor!
... wait.




Someone sounds like a Tau Sympathist......

[Thumb - HeresyStamp.png]


Would you be a heretic? @ 2011/01/31 17:22:01


Post by: Psychosaur


Mr Nobody wrote:Does joining the Tau count as being a heretic? If so, then yes, I would join the Tau and be a heretic.

Though they seem to have secret agendas, the life style isn't that bad. Join the earth caste and stay away from the fighting, or maybe the air caste.


I'm pretty sure even consorting with alien races is considered heretical, let alone joining them.

If I had the choice I would turn heretic and join the Greater Good. I doubt the Ethereal Caste would let a person chose what caste they became apart of, but they would likely put you in a place where you aid the Greater Good the most.


Would you be a heretic? @ 2011/02/01 03:28:49


Post by: PresidentOfAsia


Never!

My take on the Chaos gods
Khorne: some insecure tough guy who likes to try to make himself look all buff by wearing a million different skulls; same goes for his followers

Nurgle: Terminally ill Tim Burton's take on Jabba the Hutt with a million different STD's; whats the point of feeling no pain if a las cannon blew off your legs and you are unable to walk? A dreadnought(metal bawks) perhaps?

Slaneesh: Some Horny Hedonist that is the noob of the chaos gods and ripped open a hole in the fabric of space by being born

Tzeentch: some donkey-cave who can't make up his mind on anything



Would you be a heretic? @ 2011/02/01 08:26:34


Post by: Malice


Yep, thats the general idea

All I have to say is that slaneesh, apart from being a noob cant make up his mind on anything either, mainly his/her/it's gender.


Would you be a heretic? @ 2011/02/01 09:04:23


Post by: Big Mek Dattrukk


Rogue Trader all the way.


Would you be a heretic? @ 2011/03/30 13:46:01


Post by: jelisi


I won't be ...... i guess.
But actually doubting about it will make us heretics so, we all are heretics


Would you be a heretic? @ 2011/03/30 14:34:07


Post by: black templar


yes if i was a SM i would let nurgle have my soul so i could fight even if im badly wounded.


Would you be a heretic? @ 2011/03/31 21:58:59


Post by: tantan628


I know I would give in to the temptation of Tzeentch, he'd just have to say I can become a lord of change and I'd join. Imagine being able to cast spells to kill people just like that, fly and see into the future. I know I would probably end up a blue horror (not even a pink horror) but just the chance would be too hard to resist.


Would you be a heretic? @ 2011/03/31 23:41:19


Post by: Zhent Killer


Defintily Tau for me, there the only ones with peaceful like planets


Would you be a heretic? @ 2011/04/01 00:16:24


Post by: ZacktheChaosChild


I would not. I think the Emperor is full of gak, but I would join the Guard. Like it's been said before, it's for the survival of our species.


Would you be a heretic? @ 2011/04/01 00:21:09


Post by: Melissia


I'm not very religious, but I'd be smart enough to give lip service at least...


Would you be a heretic? @ 2011/04/01 00:23:02


Post by: Asherian Command


I am pure! I would become a Grey Knight!


Would you be a heretic? @ 2011/04/01 16:43:24


Post by: chyron


Would i consciously became heretic? No
And anyway - being AM gives more possibility for "ooops" than for corruption