Ok, this is a half serious question, and also somewhat amusing to me.. but here it is..
About ten years back, I was getting a sarnie in Subway Middlesbrough, and there was a really fat American woman in the line behind me, she was white (and American by her accent) but she was wearing a Hijab.
I got an Italian BMT and after the bloke served me, he turned to this fat woman in the Muslim garb and asked her what she wanted and she said "change the gloves you are wearing, because he had pork and that is disgusting" and I said to her and said something rude back that I wont repeat on dakka..
Anyway, I have regalled my friends with this story in the pub many a time because my witty retort got some chuckles from the other people in the shop, and after a short exchange fatty chased me from the shop much to the amusement of the staff inside and we did about 4 laps of a guys car out front.
Now, id almost forgotten about this incident, until I saw this video today.
The lassie on the video looks JUST like the woman, but younger. And i had long conversations about this with my friends in the past, in that i have noticed a trend, in that white women who are raised in western nations but turn to Islam (sometimes very aggressively as the woman in the video) are almost ALWAYS overweight, and unattractive.
My hypothesis is that Islamic men purposely go after women who they believe will have low self esteem as they will be far more likely to not spurn their advances.
Does that sound about right? Has anyone else seen this type of thing before? Has anyone else seen a really ample woman in a Burkha or a Hijab/Niqab etc
And conversely, has anyone ever seen a really hot white women convert to Islam?
And finally, does anyone at all know a genuinelly good convincing reason that a white woman would turn to Islam even though it is clearly obvious that the women of Islam have less freedom of speech of action underneath the teachings of Islam?
Because this issue confuses me utterly!
Can I also say to our resident ban happy religious mod Frazz, that I have made no blanket statements about Islam that are not obvious facts (Women really do have less freedom of expression under strict Islamic doctrine if that isnt obvious), and I encourage others to try and stay within acceptable dakka guidelines as well.
Haha, indeed. But yeah, a while ago there was even a documentary about dutch women turning to the islam, the entire show had not a single woman aproaching anything remotely satisfactory for a man. Weird thing though, some of them we'r single.
Good lucking getting a man there without your arranged marriage xD
mattyrm wrote:I got an Italian BMT and after the bloke served me, he turned to this fat woman in the Muslim garb and asked her what she wanted and she said "change the gloves you are wearing, because he had pork and that is disgusting" and I said to her and said something rude back that I wont repeat on dakka..
Wow, that's kind of a dick move on your part. While she probably could have been nicer in asking him to change his gloves, I've seen people act a lot worse towards fast-food workers. Vegetarians can be just as bad (dated a militant vegan once...ugh.)
Although I can't imagine very strict muslims or jews actually eating at a subway. Their practices are so far from kosher it's not even funny.
And conversely, has anyone ever seen a really hot white women convert to Islam?
You mean like Queen Noor? I think her family was Christian and left the ME.
You can talk about clothing and weight gifted women but lets steer clear from the Muslim discussion shall we?
You do know you found the video of maybe the only large person in Sand Diego under 30...
I've seen a few good looking women in headscarves and even in the full on burka (one can only assume they look good underneath I guess). But what you also have to remember is that Eastern Europe has a reasonable Muslim population and many would be considered to be "white" in skin tone.
There are also other racial, social and religious groups where women cover their head which you need to remember.
Frazzled wrote:You can talk about clothing and weight gifted women but lets steer clear from the Muslim discussion shall we?
No offense, but why? Christianity topics always last long. But when it's about the Islam it's not allowed? (not trying to be a jerk here, just think it's kind of weird)
Soladrin wrote:I've seen it too, and even the opposite, hot muslims stepping away from religion(awesome).
The most attractive girl I've ever known was an Iranian expat.
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biccat wrote:Although I can't imagine very strict muslims or jews actually eating at a subway. Their practices are so far from kosher it's not even funny.
CT GAMER wrote:So what is the point of this thread?
I have met some, and I have seen some.
Even a casual google search will turn up plenty of attractive muslim women.
Maybe the OP has only happened to meet one's that HE finds unattractive.
Again, remind me why we should care?
Sounds to me like the OP is talking about converts to/from Islam.
Those Americans who go to Islam tend to be insecure (equated with fat and unattractive), while those who go from Islam tend to have good self esteem (attractive, see e.g. Wafah Dufour).
Those Americans who go to Islam tend to be insecure (equated with fat and unattractive), while those who go from Islam tend to have good self esteem (attractive, see e.g. Wafah Dufour).
Ahh, sort of like female gamers.
Wow, this painting with a broad brush IS rather fun...
Dogma, my missus has a good mate who is proper smoking hot, and she is of Iranian decent too, her mom came to the states when she was about 22 or something.
But she didnt "convert"
Im talking about white lassies who convert at a late age. I say they are almost always gopping.
Frazzled wrote:Whats really cool is, it looks like that room has all of 8 people in it.
Well, its probably because David Horowitz was speaking as a UC school, but it might also be because the world has recognized David Horowitz as a douche nozzle.
Frazzled wrote:Whats really cool is, it looks like that room has all of 8 people in it.
Well, its probably because David Horowitz was speaking as a UC school, but it might also be because the world has recognized David Horowitz as a douche nozzle.
w must also note this is UC San Diego, with some of the prettiest country in this, well country. Taint no one wondering around worrying about Yawn some speaker Yawn when the "scenery" is so impressive. Dude the surfing's gonna be good...
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Ahtman wrote:
does anyone at all know a genuinelly good convincing reason that a white woman would turn to Islam
So yellow, black, and red women don't need good reasons to convert, just white women? This would seem more of a cultural issue than an ethnic one.
I think if you're yellow, black, an red you've got bigger problems to worry about and should probably be consulting a physican immediately. Calling Doctor Gonads, Doctor Waugh Gonads...
Frazzled wrote:So yellow, black, and red women don't need good reasons to convert, just white women? This would seem more of a cultural issue than an ethnic one.
I think if you're yellow, black, an red you've got bigger problems to worry about and should probably be consulting a physican immediately. Calling Doctor Gonads, Doctor Waugh Gonads...
I didn't realize you only thought white people were normal and to not be white meant something must be wrong with you.
Frazzled wrote:So yellow, black, and red women don't need good reasons to convert, just white women? This would seem more of a cultural issue than an ethnic one.
I think if you're yellow, black, an red you've got bigger problems to worry about and should probably be consulting a physican immediately. Calling Doctor Gonads, Doctor Waugh Gonads...
I didn't realize you only thought white people were normal and to not be white meant something must be wrong with you.
I didn't realize you couldn't get a joke about being many colors at the same time. Don't get all butthurt.
Now that I think about those would be bad. Yellow = jaundice. Black I've never met a drow before. Red? Again, just really bad lobster sunburn people.
Frazzled wrote:So yellow, black, and red women don't need good reasons to convert, just white women? This would seem more of a cultural issue than an ethnic one.
I think if you're yellow, black, an red you've got bigger problems to worry about and should probably be consulting a physican immediately. Calling Doctor Gonads, Doctor Waugh Gonads...
I didn't realize you only thought white people were normal and to not be white meant something must be wrong with you.
I didn't realize you couldn't get a joke about being many colors at the same time. Don't get all butthurt.
Now that I think about those would be bad. Yellow = jaundice. Black I've never met a drow before. Red? Again, just really bad lobster sunburn people.
I know you were trying to make a joke, it just wasn't a very good one. The joke may have worked if you hadn't half assed and again excluded white from the equation and again only focused on the others. I used the ridiculous color monikers becuase it followed along with the terminology being employed. I also don't believe you stupid enough to not know what they mean as they have been around almost as long as you. If the question had been about Caucasian women I would have used different terminology but the point still would have been the same.
Frazzled wrote:So you're calling me a racist because I lack comedic talent? Who the hell pissed in your cornflakes?
That wasn't even implied in what I wrote. I did imply you were old though. Getting upset becuase I found your attempt at humour lacking? Sound a bit 'butthurt' yourself.
Why are we stereotyping Islams and also how come everyone is completely oblivious to fact that there's more than one branch of Islam (Sunni, Shia, Sufism) much like Christianity (Protestant, Catholic, Orthodox,
Frazzled wrote:So you're calling me a racist because I lack comedic talent? Who the hell pissed in your cornflakes?
That wasn't even implied in what I wrote. I did imply you were old though. Getting upset becuase I found your attempt at humour lacking? Sound a bit 'butthurt' yourself.
Face it you just can't handle off color humor.
Somebody better laugh or I'll just escalate.
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Cheesecat wrote:Why are we stereotyping Islams and also how come everyone is completely oblivious to fact that there's more than one branch of Islam (Sunni, Shia, Sufism) much like Christianity (Protestant, Catholic, Orthodox,
Baptist)?
I think we're off that and onto bad puns now. Keep up!
Cheesecat wrote:Why are we stereotyping Islams and also how come everyone is completely oblivious to fact that there's more than one branch of Islam (Sunni, Shia, Sufism) much like Christianity (Protestant, Catholic, Orthodox,
Baptist)?
I'm not sure dignifying this thread with actual content is doing anybody any favors.
Cheesecat wrote:Why are we stereotyping Islams and also how come everyone is completely oblivious to fact that there's more than one branch of Islam (Sunni, Shia, Sufism) much like Christianity (Protestant, Catholic, Orthodox,
Baptist)?
You are included in everyone so I guess the question is is why are you so oblivious to it?
Also, it might be becuase this topic isn't really about the different sects so there hasn't been a reason to go into it. If you read the OP and thought a meanigful dialogue on the differences between Sunni and Shia I have to think you misread the post. I'm not even expecting a meaningful dialogue on the question that was asked.
Frazzled wrote:So you're calling me a racist because I lack comedic talent? Who the hell pissed in your cornflakes?
That wasn't even implied in what I wrote. I did imply you were old though. Getting upset becuase I found your attempt at humour lacking? Sound a bit 'butthurt' yourself.
Cheesecat wrote:Why are we stereotyping Islams and also how come everyone is completely oblivious to fact that there's more than one branch of Islam (Sunni, Shia, Sufism) much like Christianity (Protestant, Catholic, Orthodox,
Baptist)?
Hey man, don't just come in here and start spewing facts!
Cheesecat wrote:Why are we stereotyping Islams and also how come everyone is completely oblivious to fact that there's more than one branch of Islam (Sunni, Shia, Sufism) much like Christianity (Protestant, Catholic, Orthodox,
Baptist)?
I'm not sure dignifying this thread with actual content is doing anybody any favors.
I think Ahtman would agree that I'm not adding anything of content.
Frazzled wrote:AGREED LETS GET OFF THE MUSLIM ASPECT.
As much as it nearly drives me to firey projectile diarrhea to type it, I mus agree with Frazz. The "Muslim" terrorists aren't really Muslims, they are ignorant losers recruited by the CIA so that the powers that be can have a boogeyman to use when they want to manipulate the people with fear. Just like the Oklahoma city bombers weren't Christians and the Israelis who are slowly destroying the Lebanese people aren't really Jews.
Frazzled wrote:AGREED LETS GET OFF THE MUSLIM ASPECT.
As much as it nearly drives me to firey projectile diarrhea to type it, I mus agree with Frazz. The "Muslim" terrorists aren't really Muslims, they are ignorant losers recruited by the CIA so that the powers that be can have a boogeyman to use when they want to manipulate the people with fear. Just like the Oklahoma city bombers weren't Christians and the Israelis who are slowly destroying the Lebanese people aren't really Jews.
Can we STOP it with the blatant stereotypes and Islam hate, guys seriously!!!
warpcrafter wrote:
As much as it nearly drives me to firey projectile diarrhea to type it, I mus agree with Frazz. The "Muslim" terrorists aren't really Muslims, they are ignorant losers recruited by the CIA so that the powers that be can have a boogeyman to use when they want to manipulate the people with fear. Just like the Oklahoma city bombers weren't Christians and the Israelis who are slowly destroying the Lebanese people aren't really Jews.
Frazzled wrote:AGREED LETS GET OFF THE MUSLIM ASPECT.
As much as it nearly drives me to firey projectile diarrhea to type it, I mus agree with Frazz. The "Muslim" terrorists aren't really Muslims, they are ignorant losers recruited by the CIA so that the powers that be can have a boogeyman to use when they want to manipulate the people with fear. Just like the Oklahoma city bombers weren't Christians and the Israelis who are slowly destroying the Lebanese people aren't really Jews.
Can we STOP it with the blatant stereotypes and Islam hate, guys seriously!!!
I just realized that your post has more to do with conspiracy theories, than actual stereotyping sorry for misquoting your post.
corpsesarefun wrote:Bagged milk in jugs is a clever method of using milk, it totally eliminates the need for hard packaging and is used in most coffee shops.
Spoiler:
Canadian super-stores don't actually sell bagged milk, I've never seen bagged milk in my life
I have personally never seen an overweight muslim woman in person. The few muslim women I do see at the local supermarket wear a headscarf and generally western style clothing, and are either really cute or old enough to be my grandmother. And they don't seem too submissive to their men either.
corpsesarefun wrote:Bagged milk in jugs is a clever method of using milk, it totally eliminates the need for hard packaging and is used in most coffee shops.
Spoiler:
Canadian super-stores don't actually sell bagged milk, I've never seen bagged milk in my life
Really? As far as I know, all the schools in Louisiana (where I grew up) had bagged milk. I always got the chocolate milk.
Maybe us Louisiana-people are just weird like that.
dogma wrote:In general, its been my experience that the people who find faith later in their lives tend to be if not fat, at least quite unhappy.
Yeah, fair point. The wiccan I've met who entered it after the age of twenty was a really unhappy chick. Not so the ones who did it when they were teenagers.
I'm not sure it applies to born again Christians... at least not the ones I've met. Interesting.
I expect that the fatness is simply related to the general lack of acceptance with respect to fat people, and fat women in particular.
True, though it's also a cycle, as unhappiness often drives eating, and causes more unhappiness. Whichever one started the cycle is generally impossible to tell.
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warpcrafter wrote:I have personally never seen an overweight muslim woman in person. The few muslim women I do see at the local supermarket wear a headscarf and generally western style clothing, and are either really cute or old enough to be my grandmother. And they don't seem too submissive to their men either.
Me too, but we're not talking about all Muslim women, just the Western women that converted to Islam from personal choice.
warpcrafter wrote:I have personally never seen an overweight muslim woman in person. The few muslim women I do see at the local supermarket wear a headscarf and generally western style clothing, and are either really cute or old enough to be my grandmother. And they don't seem too submissive to their men either.
Me too, but we're not talking about all Muslim women, just the Western women that converted to Islam from personal choice.
In my experience fat Muslim women tend to be of the Nana-Benz sort, meaning that they have come to some sort of economic power. Otherwise overtly Muslim women tend to be married to less than accommodating men.
On an unrelated note, I've been reminded of the time that the aforementioned beautiful Iranian girl decided to cast off her former culture bu going skinny dipping, all who witnessed were pleased.
I love how almost everyone is acting like a daily mail reader and as a result are gleefully getting ready to be offended. It's like some of you get off on it. And I notice nobody was offended by fatty wanting to merrily commit genocide.
What's with everyone being constantly offended all the time? Lots of things offend me, but its no excuse to silence people, so man up and contribute or go and read something else.
Sebster gets it. Damn straight its something you can talk about.
I believe that any woman raised in a secular environment who turns to religion late in life, specifically in this case Islam, does so because of an emotional instability. If I had the money and the resources I bet I could prove it too.
Screw it, id say the same for men as well. Take a survey of 30,000 devoutly religious people between the age of 18-50 who would say they described themselves as non religious when they were in high school.
Ask them the number one reason they turned to their current religion, and see the results. Considering the overwhelming majority of devout people have the same religion as their parents, I'm willing to bet my house that the reason they turn to Allah or Jesus or whatever is because of general unhappiness, depression, insecurity, personal tragedy or all of the above. Hardly any will say "because I studied lots of religions and it made way more sense than the rest"
Ergo, I say fat honking women are far more likely to "find" Allah in adulthood than self confident, happy people
mattyrm wrote:Hardly any will say "because I studied lots of religions and it made way more sense than the rest"
Whilst I agree with you that I think the majority of people who are "turned on" to religion later in life are converted because of some deep seated unhappiness with how their life is, it would need to be a pretty clever analysis of their personality that could uncover the possible reasons why they made the change.
Many people go through life unaware, or unwilling to admit to themselves what it is that drives them. I would argue that many people make a choice because it "made way more sense than the rest" without understanding exactly why the made that choice, or will essentially lie to themselves about the reasoning behind it. This is not strictly limited to religion and happens all the time.
Just look at most men or women who go through a mid life crisis and buy a new sports car, or who change their wardrobe and get a new fab hair style, etc.
No not just US mate, Europe too, as my record breaking taxi laps were achieved in England.
Sorry im on my phone so its hard to get this all making sense. I basically mean any secular educated first world woman who is not a practicing believer and finds religion later In life.
I dunno man. I got a few muslim relatives and friends and I gotta say, the dudes know how to pick em. I attended my friend's wedding in indonesia and his wife isnt what id call fat and dumpy. She's English if im not mistaken.
id post pics but its not my place you know?
so are we eliminating "conversion through marriage" as part of whatever it is you have here?
one thing I do know though is that the women tend to be "muslim to an extent" as they dont practice some of the traditions and are very adverse to the idea of multiple wives
Frazzled wrote:AGREED LETS GET OFF THE MUSLIM ASPECT.
As much as it nearly drives me to firey projectile diarrhea to type it, I mus agree with Frazz. The "Muslim" terrorists aren't really Muslims, they are ignorant losers recruited by the CIA so that the powers that be can have a boogeyman to use when they want to manipulate the people with fear. Just like the Oklahoma city bombers weren't Christians and the Israelis who are slowly destroying the Lebanese people aren't really Jews.
Can we STOP it with the blatant stereotypes and Islam hate, guys seriously!!!
mattyrm wrote:I love how almost everyone is acting like a daily mail reader and as a result are gleefully getting ready to be offended. It's like some of you get off on it. And I notice nobody was offended by fatty wanting to merrily commit genocide.
I think the topic of people converting or otherwise changing/finding faith as adults (meaning post college) is an interesting one, and when you boil it down, you're thesis is pretty much "people that make dramatic changes in their lives are emotionally unfulfilled," which is something I'd endorse.
I dont' think people are offended by the idea, but rather the presentation. When most people are discussing topics like psychology and religion they tend to take efforts to avoid offense. Your post... went a different route.
The pic of hockey player, going to see a hockey game...
It's obviously some sort of Alanis Morissette type of irony, rather than actual irony.
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SilverMK2 wrote:Whilst I agree with you that I think the majority of people who are "turned on" to religion later in life are converted because of some deep seated unhappiness with how their life is, it would need to be a pretty clever analysis of their personality that could uncover the possible reasons why they made the change.
Seriously not trolling here, but do you think the same applies to people who are "turned off" of religion later in life?
SilverMK2 wrote:Whilst I agree with you that I think the majority of people who are "turned on" to religion later in life are converted because of some deep seated unhappiness with how their life is, it would need to be a pretty clever analysis of their personality that could uncover the possible reasons why they made the change.
Seriously not trolling here, but do you think the same applies to people who are "turned off" of religion later in life?
I think the two aren't really comparable in general. People raised in a secular environment who become religious later in life almost always do so out of a desperate need for community, support, and/or "answers", which implies a prior lack thereof. Rejecting religion means removing oneself from a community and its support, and deciding that its answers are wrong, which means one either has or must find those things elsewhere. Now, if someone does so because they can't reconcile a tragic event with their faith, then I can imagine they'd end up bitter and miserable, because their bitterness and misery are the very things causing the change in the first place.
Basically, in most cases someone becoming religious implies that they previously disbelieved or rejected the answers the respective religion puts forth, but takes them up out of a desperate need for community and the support thereof. Openly rejecting it almost always means coming to disbelieve the answers it puts forth, while not needing the community and support that comes along with them. Someone who either tries to believe its answers, but doesn't, or who pretends to believe, solely in order to become or remain part of the community associated with a faith, would almost necessarily be at the least internally conflicted, and more often quite miserably so.
SilverMK2 wrote:Whilst I agree with you that I think the majority of people who are "turned on" to religion later in life are converted because of some deep seated unhappiness with how their life is, it would need to be a pretty clever analysis of their personality that could uncover the possible reasons why they made the change.
Seriously not trolling here, but do you think the same applies to people who are "turned off" of religion later in life?
I would agree, but only when you are talking about those that become rabidly so.
Those who convert to a religion from a secular or different religious background normally go unnoticed unless they are the kind in the OP, the undoubtedly vocal minority, and the same goes for those that were raised religious and became atheist or ambivalent.
I also agree with KK though, if it gives people a measure of happiness then good for them.
SilverMK2 wrote:Whilst I agree with you that I think the majority of people who are "turned on" to religion later in life are converted because of some deep seated unhappiness with how their life is, it would need to be a pretty clever analysis of their personality that could uncover the possible reasons why they made the change.
Seriously not trolling here, but do you think the same applies to people who are "turned off" of religion later in life?
I would have to point you towards Sir Pseudonymous's post. I would say that yes - someone who makes a rather large change in their life is generally unhappy. Perhaps they come to the realisation that they never really believed in their position in the first place. Perhaps an event occurs which causes them to question their position. Perhaps the just come to find they dislike the community they are a part of.
As I said, the rationalisation that one generally makes to oneself can cover a multitude of "lies to self" and "unknown by self" factors.
Very few people will go through life and logically work their way though the available information before making a decision - most people will make a gut reaction and then attempt to justify it later on.
Kilkrazy wrote:Is it so wrong to have an unfulfilled life and find fulfillment?
While it's definitely not wrong to find fulfillment with your life, I am slightly worried about those who take it to extremes, like the woman in the video. Finding fullfillment in your life is good, no doubt about that. But if that fullfillment is hating others, and promoting genocide then I think that's not so laudable.
I think, what we are getting at is that older middle class white British women are unhappy becuase they have tossed aside by society and thus their only recourse is radical Islam. Obliviously California is similar and thus gets similar results. And in the end, aren't California and Britain basically the same country?
Ahtman wrote:I think, what we are getting at is that older middle class white British women are unhappy becuase they have tossed aside by society and thus their only recourse is radical Islam. Obliviously California is similar and thus gets similar results. And in the end, aren't California and Britain basically the same country?
Ahtman wrote:I think, what we are getting at is that older middle class white British women are unhappy becuase they have tossed aside by society and thus their only recourse is radical Islam. Obliviously California is similar and thus gets similar results. And in the end, aren't California and Britain basically the same country?
Ahtman wrote:I think, what we are getting at is that older middle class white British women are unhappy becuase they have tossed aside by society and thus their only recourse is radical Islam. Obliviously California is similar and thus gets similar results. And in the end, aren't California and Britain basically the same country?
Ahtman wrote:I think, what we are getting at is that older middle class white British women are unhappy becuase they have tossed aside by society and thus their only recourse is radical Islam. Obliviously California is similar and thus gets similar results. And in the end, aren't California and Britain basically the same country?
Indeed, after all they are both near water.
Well, it's nice to see something good come out of this thread. (I'm being serious that made me laugh)
Ahtman wrote:I think, what we are getting at is that older middle class white British women are unhappy becuase they have tossed aside by society and thus their only recourse is radical Islam. Obliviously California is similar and thus gets similar results. And in the end, aren't California and Britain basically the same country?
biccat wrote:
I would be willing to remove the link if you feel the need to post an image relating to your seeing what I did there.
Despite how intense my desire to proclaim how I saw what you did there is I'm afraid I'm going to have to decline your offer to remove the link to allow me to post and image relating to myself seeing what you did there.
Bit late on the thread so missed all the haters! My first ever girlfriend went the way of the great white islamic convert but I can console myself with these...
for the 13,456th time please do not attach non wargaming pcitures to Dakka.
1 and 3 are dudes and the second one I think violates the sfw policy on the board. If he was just reaching there would be some wiggle room but once contact is made, it is porn. Always.
Send PM's of the rest and I will let you know if they are safe.
mattyrm wrote: I believe that any woman raised in a secular environment who turns to religion late in life, specifically in this case Islam, does so because of an emotional instability. If I had the money and the resources I bet I could prove it too.
Screw it, id say the same for men as well. Take a survey of 30,000 devoutly religious people between the age of 18-50 who would say they described themselves as non religious when they were in high school.
Ask them the number one reason they turned to their current religion, and see the results. Considering the overwhelming majority of devout people have the same religion as their parents, I'm willing to bet my house that the reason they turn to Allah or Jesus or whatever is because of general unhappiness, depression, insecurity, personal tragedy or all of the above. Hardly any will say "because I studied lots of religions and it made way more sense than the rest"
Ergo, I say fat honking women are far more likely to "find" Allah in adulthood than self confident, happy people
Simple.
I couldn't agree more, and I am glad in the post quoted above, mattyrm, that you included men as well in your thesis because in my limited life experience I have seen fear and hopelessness lead both sexes to religious devotion.
The video in your original post was upsetting because it crystallizes the irrational hate that I attribute to religious extremists and, as an atheist, saddens me on a daily basis. The negative influence that religion and the religious have had (and continue to exert) on my life and the world around me, leaves me endlessly frustrated at how impotent any rational thoughts or actions are in the face of unabashed rancor between said extremists. How does one counter the bile of the woman in that video without resorting to the same barbarism that she is advocating against the Jewish people?
Now, I understand that it is many different people from many different religions with extremist interpretations of their religions that are causing problems in the world. And of course those folks who have a less extreme view of religion aren't necessarily bad. However, I am of the opinion that if it weren't for religion in the first place the world would be a bit better off (because you couldn't have religious extremists without first having the religion, right?). But it doesn't take a suicide bomber or a hateful sign outside of a soldier's funeral to make me condemn religion, my opinion has formed after 28 years of living in a country that has religious views intertwined within the very fabric of society. It is in the laws I live under, the content of the media, and the moral lines that are drawn seemingly arbitrarily that leave me baffled at the behavior of those who cling so desperately to ideologies that make absolutely no sense to me. Now, those here who follow a religion I am not bashing you, it is just my opinion that religion does more harm than good and my comments are in no way intended to disparage your beliefs. No doubt the religious among this community hold beliefs that run counter to my own lifestyle and opinions and that is cool as long as we don't harbor the same venomous-hate for one another as the woman in that video.
Getting back on point that woman in the video is ugly. However, that ugliness has nothing to do with her appeal as a sexual object but instead resides in her view of the world and no doubt whatever pain and isolation she experienced in life has resulted in her embrace of a doctrine of ignorance and hatred.
You blend radicalism and religion in general in your post to the point I can't tell if you consider all religion radical and offensive to you are you just poorly worded it so that it appears that you only equate religion with radicalism.
Calling Doctor Gonads, Doctor Waugh Gonads...
Speaking of Canadian stereotypes apparently 
