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Post by: Little lord Fauntleroy
So, a quick round-up of my findings:
-Although they're in the next IA, Space Wolf stuff isn't a high priority currently. There's only likely to be one special character (Bran Redmaw, who has stats in the book), whose released sometime after the book. Thunderwolves are quite low on the 'to do' list, though Warwick hinted this might be because of plastic one coming soon (note that this is purely conjecture ATM). Also, Wulfen are back! There's a datasheet for them in the Appendix, so there's the teeniest tiniest sliver of a possibility of a conversion kit for them (again, don't hold your breath).
-Some new Deldar stuff is in the works-some kind of laser thingy for a raider, and a 'Catamaran'. There was also talk of a Jabba's barge-esque style ship, but I didn't really spend much time with the Commarite stuff.
-The Badab war still rages-their are Astral claws shoulderpads for both Power armour and Terminators, plus a transfer sheet (with both Lion head and Tyrant's claw icons). No other chapters yet (except Salamanders, who also got Power armour shoulder pads), but there were some Carcharodon marines with some suspiciously transfer like symbols on their shoulder pads...
-Chaos Dwarf stuff is beautiful. Infantry, Heroes, Taurus, and some War machines done. No Centaurs or Hobgoblins yet, but the artwork floating around means they can't be far off.
-Finally, Warwick confirmed that when 40k Chaos is next done, it'll be Slaanesh and Tzeentch based, hopefully with Daemon engines and rengade Guard lists. No idea wen though.
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Post by: Darkvoidof40k
Interesting.
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Post by: Iron Angel
Sounds good  more Slaanesh and Tzeentch would be great.
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Post by: Kroothawk
Be aware that with Warseer down, you are currently the only source of information (and pics  ) of this event.
Tell me more about the Chaos Dwarf infantry, heroes, the Taurus and the artwork.
Edit:
Okay found some twitter pics by Bad Dice :
1.) Conversion kit for DE
2.-3.) Chaos Dwarf Taurus
4.-5.) Skaven Vermin Lord
6.-7.) Chaos Siege Giant (conversion kit)
8.-9.) Chaos Dwarf Infernal Guard
10.) Chaos Dwarf Hero
11.) Chaos Character
12.) Eldar Titan (yes, that's a Wraithlord in front )
13.) Trish's Dragon (a resin cast!)
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Post by: Alpharius
WHOA!
That Taurus IS awesome!
And yes, please, more info on Chaos Dwarfs, please!
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Post by: winnertakesall
The Taurus us amazing, as is the vermin lord. No doubt my heart will break when I see the cost.
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Post by: Morathi's Darkest Sin
MMmmm Vermin Lord. So there will be that and the Avatar on my to buy from FW list then.
Also the Taurus is looking very interesting, hopefully some clearer pics will show up before the end of the day.
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Post by: Alpharius
Especially of the rider, be it a Lord or a Wizard!
Can't wait for info on the CD Infantry too!
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Post by: Kroothawk
Added pics to my first post.
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Post by: Klawz
I like the Dark Eldar Raider a lot. The titan makes me want an eldar army. I WILL RESIST!
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Post by: Kroothawk
Seems like Warseer is available again. Eldargal over at BolS quotes PhiBrad:
IA11 full Corsair army list think CA Eldar with access to DE vehicles. Several craftworlds involved Wraithseer is 175pts IIRC. BRAN Redmaw's company for the SW no SW models on show I've seen. Some great SW artwork in there. Scenarios for all the major battles in the campaign as we'll as Apocalypse formations including a very hacked off Avatar in one .
Models more pre heresy stuff. Jump packs. Pistol/CCW arms more heavy weapons. Eldar special weapons team the Wraithseer and Phantom we've seen but both are beautiful models. Astral Claw and Salamander power armour resin pads. Haywire cannon for DE Raider and a twin hull DE Raider
concept.
PhilB
This explains why we see some new resin Dark Eldar models down below!
Brueckenkopf speculates (maybe using Warseer info) that Dark Eldar might get some coverage in Imperial Armour 12!
Anyone brave enough to have a look at Warseer?
Anyway, pics by him (attached, so hosted here, not at Warseer):
First pic would make a nice Venom
5.) IG Crassus tracked bunker
6.) DE skimmer without transport capacity, also look at the catamaran art in the background (click pic to see larger version)
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Post by: Alpharius
Someone, take the chance!
I want to see pics of the Pre-Heresy stuff!
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Post by: dienekes96
No pics of PH stuff yet. Just the rumors. Sad about the Wolves, but I am sure Redmaw will be exceptional. But not anytime soon. Other stuff looks lovely.
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Spoke too soon. Stuff is up at warseer now.
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Post by: Commander Cain
Interesting stuff that FW is bringing out, nothing I really would like to buy, but I think that many are looking forward to the next few months!
Now why can GW not show previews of their products!?
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Post by: Scottywan82
MUST HAVE RAIDER.
Dude that is amazing. Can someone say sexy Vect Raider?
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Post by: Morathi's Darkest Sin
By the maker, do I see original Space Marine Missile Launchers ala RTB01 boxed set in there.
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Post by: dienekes96
The missile launcher has been available for a few months now. The multi-melta, heavy bolter, and plasma cannon are new, and RT-delicious. Beaten by scottywan.
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Post by: Kanluwen
That tracked bunker. I'll take three.
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Post by: Alpharius
So the old school heavy weapons are of the 'over the shoulder' 2nd Edition style?
I was hoping for a more 'hand held' version!
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Post by: Kanluwen
Why...?
The "Pre-Heresy" stuff inevitably would be the non-backpack fed stuff. The earlier stuff that we've seen should have told you as much 
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Post by: vaatbak
Alpharius wrote:So the old school heavy weapons are of the 'over the shoulder' 2nd Edition style?
I was hoping for a more 'hand held' version!
Realy?, I actualy like the over the shoulder type of heavy weapons.
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Post by: Bullet Magnet
Any word on that Realm of Battle expansion tile that FW talked about in their latest news letter?
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Post by: Morathi's Darkest Sin
Ah some how missed that one, still nice to see. Can I have my over the shoulder jelly bean Plasma Cannons back for Orks now please. 
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Post by: Kanluwen
What word would there be about it?
It's there, it's for sale in limited numbers for 60 GBP.
If you look at the picture of the Phantom and Wraithseer, it's on the RoB board done to match the tile.
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Post by: kenshin620
Giant Flying Bull ( Red Bull!) looks neat, I hope they make some decent rules for it though
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Post by: Alpharius
I was hoping for them to be more like this:
because they are easier to make work on my True Scale Pre-Heresy Alpha Legion Marines!
I know, selfish!
Also, I am loving the CD Infantry - it would be nice if we'd be able to 'officially' field a CD Army soon, even if it is only via FW!
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Post by: RiTides
More Chaos Dwarf info/pics, please! 
And thanks for all of the ones so far... I really want a good look at the infantry to compare to Mantic's, as I'll probably end up going with one or the other down the line when these come out.
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Post by: CURNOW
wow love those assult marines ! and FW old school jump packs !!!!!!
i can see mk2 and mk4 hopefuly they will do mk5s for my world eaters !!
also what is that IG tank is it a transport ?
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Post by: Alpharius
RiTides wrote:More Chaos Dwarf info/pics, please!
And thanks for all of the ones so far... I really want a good look at the infantry to compare to Mantic's, as I'll probably end up going with one or the other down the line when these come out.
Same here!
Sadly (wallet-wise), I think I'm leaning towards the FW versions! 
CURNOW wrote:wow love those assult marines ! and FW old school jump packs !!!!!!
i can see mk2 and mk4 hopefuly they will do mk5s for my world eaters !!
There is a MK V squad in that picture!
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Post by: Regnak
Oh dear... that Vermin Lord looks awful! Its almost exactly like those big rubber rats you can buy in joke/costume shops... Will stick with the Games Workshop version.... Wow... how often do you say that when it comes to FW?!
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Oh, and still not liking that Eldar titan thing. Looks too much like an action figure instead of a model...
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Post by: Kanluwen
The Vermin Lord looks unfinished. That would explain why the 'skin' looks so rubbery, it'd be the material they're working on before it gets cast in resin.
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Post by: Murdock129
I'm pretty certain the vermin lord isn't finished yet, I doubt they'd think just a big rubbery and undetailed rat would be particularily good
On the other hand I'm loving those Chaos Dwarfs, especially the infantry units
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Post by: Regnak
Kanluwen wrote:The Vermin Lord looks unfinished. That would explain why the 'skin' looks so rubbery, it'd be the material they're working on before it gets cast in resin.
Not just the skin.. I mean the overall look. Really not liking this.
For people who would like an ultra cheap alternative:
That will probably save you at least £80 of te FW price!
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Post by: led571
Chaos Dwarfs do have them as a list that you can use them on there own, bull centaurs are monstrous beasts and hob goblins are in!
blunderbuss have extra rules for the size of the unit. a unit 10+ gets no modifiers for long range or stand and shoot a unit 20+ also gets to reroll to hit or wound (sorry cant remember which).
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Post by: Alpharius
led571 wrote:Chaos Dwarfs do have them as a list that you can use them on there own, bull centaurs are monstrous beasts and hob goblins are in!
blunderbuss have extra rules for the size of the unit. a unit 10+ gets no modifiers for long range or stand and shoot a unit 20+ also gets to reroll to hit or wound (sorry cant remember which).
What rules are these?
The old Ravening Hordes version?
Or the newer Indy Circuit approved ones?
Or, even better, something in an upcoming FW book?
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Post by: led571
Only strength 3 with armour piecing and can't remember the range, they where saying it should be going to the printers in July.
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Post by: Alpharius
So, you're saying there WILL be NEW rules to get a Chaos Dwarf army on the table?
And, they WILL include Bull Centaurs and Hobgoblins?
Awesome!
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Post by: Morathi's Darkest Sin
*Twitch*
If GW does indeed do a full Chaos Dwarf list, even if the whole range is FW only, then by the Gods. *Wallet see's the glance and tries to run for the door*
Oh my, I am going to owe Aurelia many, many Roleplaying Game sessions if true.
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Post by: Little lord Fauntleroy
Kroothawk wrote:Be aware that with Warseer down, you are currently the only source of information (and pics ) of this event.
Right...no pressure then. I'd also like to apologise for forgetting to mention so much stuff, I was rushing because of Mother's day arrangements. You know how it is.
Anyway, onto the Warhammer Forge stuff:
The Chaos Dwarves have kind of gone for a compromise between big hats and helmet; the hero (called a Daemonsmith I believe) wears a top hat, whilst the foot warriors (called Infernal guard) wear the newer helemts. Both are good sculpts, but the Guard did seem to me to be 'Short Chaos Warriors with beards'. Which, I suppose, is what they are.
There was some kind of war machine thing for the CDs. From what I remember, it was kind of a steampunkish lorry with a mortar thing instead of the big box. Interestingly, there was an Ogre loading the device, so maybe they'll feature if the Dwarves get a variant list they'll be included.
The pictures don't do the Vermin Lord justice; it's a really nice model, and as said it isn't finished yet. It's armed with some kind of double ended Halberd; one side has the conventional blade, the other is adorned with the symbol of the Horned rat. Certainly going to be interesting to see how it turns out.
The Toad dragon is beautiful-think giant mutated frog/lizard thing being ridden by a Nurgly Daemon prince. Very big, probably about as tall as one of the FW greater Daemons if not taller. There's also a new Chaos sorceror coming out; nothing special, but a nice addition to Nurgly armies.
Art is standard Forge world stuff; very detailed and glossy. Hobgoblins are in essence Greenskinned Mongols, as you'd expect, and the Bull centaurs are the bigtoothed hat wearing Mesopotanian psychopaths we've all come to know and love.
Finally, there's more Empire stuff in the works. I recall seeing an Engineer dude of some description, and the Sons of Manaan (or whatever it was); an nautical themed upgrade pack for sworsmen in the same vein as the Nuln Ironsides.
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Post by: nels1031
Were the Chaos Dwarves Infernal Guard minis a finished project? Or still work in progress?
I ask because their shields seem very plain and unadorned without any sort of iconography, I was expecting some chaotic or hashut symbols. From what I can make of the photo, they may be going for a riot shield type look on them, which is neat I suppose.
Can't wait to see the hobgoblins. I've always been a fan of Mongolian history and hobgoblins, so I'm particularly excited about them. I still own the old Dogs of War Hobgoblin regiment and special character and can't wait to have rules to use them once again! I dread to think how my wallet will fare if the chaos dwarf army list allows a full hobgoblin army to be fielded... Ever since the Dogs of War book(and the recent O+G army book) mentioned the vast hordes of Hobgobbla Khan, I've been hoping to one day have an all Hobgoblin horde!
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Post by: ifelix
Little lord Fauntleroy wrote:There was some kind of war machine thing for the CDs. From what I remember, it was kind of a steampunkish lorry with a mortar thing instead of the big box. Interestingly, there was an Ogre loading the device, so maybe they'll feature if the Dwarves get a variant list they'll be included.
Would that have been this? As was seen before at GamesDay 2011. I recall the designers saying that there was to be a slave Ogre on board loading the mortar. Part of the Chaos Dwarf Train.
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Post by: Little lord Fauntleroy
Everything else in their cabinet was, so I'm inclined to believe so. In fact, the only unfinished things I think were there from a fantasy perspective were the Vermin lord, Trish's dragon and possibly the Taurus.
@iFelix: firstly, welcome to Dakka. Secondly, yes, it was similar to that (although obviously that was a WIP, whilst the one today was finished and painted so had loads of other neat little details like aforementioned Ogre).
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Regnak wrote:Kanluwen wrote:The Vermin Lord looks unfinished. That would explain why the 'skin' looks so rubbery, it'd be the material they're working on before it gets cast in resin.
Not just the skin.. I mean the overall look. Really not liking this.
For people who would like an ultra cheap alternative:
That will probably save you at least £80 of te FW price!
I am not going to ask why it has nipples.
Other wise all those models from forge world look good.
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Post by: Iron Angel
A full chaos dwarves army would be fantastic. I hope this will turn out to be true.
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Post by: Alpharius
Little lord Fauntleroy wrote:The Chaos Dwarves have kind of gone for a compromise between big hats and helmet; the hero (called a Daemonsmith I believe) wears a top hat, whilst the foot warriors (called Infernal guard) wear the newer helemts. Both are good sculpts, but the Guard did seem to me to be 'Short Chaos Warriors with beards'. Which, I suppose, is what they are.
At least the newer helmet CDs are still rocking the cool beards!
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Post by: Iron Angel
Alpharius wrote:Little lord Fauntleroy wrote:The Chaos Dwarves have kind of gone for a compromise between big hats and helmet; the hero (called a Daemonsmith I believe) wears a top hat, whilst the foot warriors (called Infernal guard) wear the newer helemts. Both are good sculpts, but the Guard did seem to me to be 'Short Chaos Warriors with beards'. Which, I suppose, is what they are.
At least the newer helmet CDs are still rocking the cool beards!
True I would miss the beards too. The hats on the other hand can stay away ^^ but on character models they should be ok because of rarity.
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Post by: Luthon1234
Wow FW finally doing some Dark Eldar stuff! I hope we can see some more custom vehicles (maybe even an upgrade kit for the revenant and phantom?).
On the Chaos Dwarves will they be a FW army or will they be getting a new codex?
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Post by: TyraelVladinhurst
hm, so FW is putting out more preheresy stuff then.... wonder when we can expect to see the lascannon and the old 3rd edition missile launcher you know the one that had three giant rockets in an ammo case and was significantly bigger then the current launcher? oh and MK1 rhino's, predators, whirlwinds and land raiders?
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Post by: endtransmission
There are some more photos over on Bols, including a better shot of the Crassus and a nice shot of the eldar titan with it's head opened up
( http://www.lounge.belloflostsouls.net/showpost.php?p=129517&postcount=13)
There's also a rather nice picture showing that the eldar titan can be made up in more dynamic poses. though a BIG base is going to be needed to support it
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Post by: Kanluwen
Yeah...now I'm even more sold on the Crassus. It's like a bloody AAV!
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Post by: Alpharius
TyraelVladinhurst wrote:hm, so FW is putting out more preheresy stuff then.... wonder when we can expect to see the lascannon and the old 3rd edition missile launcher you know the one that had three giant rockets in an ammo case and was significantly bigger then the current launcher? oh and MK1 rhino's, predators, whirlwinds and land raiders?
For most of those, soon I hope, especially the Lascannon!
But for that 2nd edition Missile Launcher? Never!
The recently released 'Pre-Heresy' Missile Launcher is a good one - no need to muddy the waters with that abomination!
Also, they already have a "Pre-Heresy" Land Raider kit, so, no worries there. Other than the fact that I hear it doesn't go together too well!
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Post by: kronk
I didn't notice the first time, but this thing has Resin Astral Claws Land Raider Doors!
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Post by: Kanluwen
How did you not notice? That's the whole reason they show it!
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Post by: Jadenim
Impressions of the day:
Phatom Titan is fething huge! It towers over even the Reaver.
The Crassus is a really cool, chunky looking beast. Don't know if anyone's heard what the rules are like, but I'd half expect to see it turning up in normal 40k games.
Really liking the look of the Heresy era jump packs; don't know if it's obvious from those pics but there were actually two versions, a bit like the ordinary back packs (a Mkii/Mkiii and a Mkiv/Mkv?) Seemed to have a lot of detail on them.
Had quite a long chat with Warwick, says he's moving on to the second Warhammer forge book, which will be Bretonnians Vs Khemri. Lots of medieval Crusade style charging through the desert. He also said the new realm of battle expansion piece is a bit of a trial. They'd like to do a specific board to accompany each book release (thinking temple complex/tomb entrance for the Khemri, fallen obelisks, etc), but it will depend on how popular they prove to be (so if you want more, get buying!)
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Post by: TyraelVladinhurst
Alpharius wrote:TyraelVladinhurst wrote:hm, so FW is putting out more preheresy stuff then.... wonder when we can expect to see the lascannon and the old 3rd edition missile launcher you know the one that had three giant rockets in an ammo case and was significantly bigger then the current launcher? oh and MK1 rhino's, predators, whirlwinds and land raiders?
For most of those, soon I hope, especially the Lascannon!
But for that 2nd edition Missile Launcher? Never!
The recently released 'Pre-Heresy' Missile Launcher is a good one - no need to muddy the waters with that abomination!
Also, they already have a "Pre-Heresy" Land Raider kit, so, no worries there. Other than the fact that I hear it doesn't go together too well!
i had no problems with it myself, but i always liked the MK1 raider over the MK2b and MK3. also what's wrong with the late 2nd ed early 3rd ed missile launchers? personally they look ALOT better then the new missile launchers
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Post by: Alpharius
TyraelVladinhurst wrote:
i had no problems with it myself, but i always liked the MK1 raider over the MK2b and MK3. also what's wrong with the late 2nd ed early 3rd ed missile launchers? personally they look ALOT better then the new missile launchers
...just no where near as cool as the old "Space Crusade" style Missile Launcher that was recently released, is all!
More pics!
From "Slaaaaaanesh" on Warseer:
MKV Assault Squads!
and a close up of the new Heavy Weapons, Old School style:
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Jadenim wrote:Had quite a long chat with Warwick, says he's moving on to the second Warhammer forge book, which will be Bretonnians Vs Khemri. Lots of medieval Crusade style charging through the desert. He also said the new realm of battle expansion piece is a bit of a trial. They'd like to do a specific board to accompany each book release (thinking temple complex/tomb entrance for the Khemri, fallen obelisks, etc), but it will depend on how popular they prove to be (so if you want more, get buying!)
2nd WH Forge book? Thought the Tamurkhan story was a trilogy? Or at least that was still the plan when Priestley was still heading the project. Did something change or did I miss an announcement somewhere?
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Post by: Kanluwen
The Tamurkhan story is just the beginning of an overall, linked campaign--or that's what Priestley envisioned.
You weren't going to see just Tamurkhan's invasion.
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Post by: Jadenim
Just repeating what I heard, but I'm not a Fantasy player so I could have mis-interpreted slightly. But he's definitely writing Bret/Khemri, cause he was really psyched about the idea! It was nice to see the enthusiasm he has for the game.
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Post by: DPBellathrom
slaanesh huh, I smell resin noise marines 8D ...and can hear my wallet complaining lol
but yeah if we get an upgrade kit I'll be very happy indeed
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Post by: Erasoketa
OMG the DE skimmers are so absolutely beautiful!!
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Post by: Necros
Awesome stuff as usual. Glad they're doing a lot of early marine armor stuff, planning to redo my marines soon and I'm gonna make myself poor using all those old looking marines.
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Post by: RiTides
Little lord Fauntleroy wrote:Secondly, yes, it was similar to that (although obviously that was a WIP, whilst the one today was finished and painted so had loads of other neat little details like aforementioned Ogre).
So there is one of those Chaos Dwarf (train/mortar?) models at Adepticon fully finished being sculpted and painted? Or am I misunderstanding this?
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Post by: nevertellmetheodds
I was driving past and i dropped in to buy a ink, but didn't realise the was a open day thing, the eldar phantom titan looks very nice, so does the imperial stronghold tile and the newish IG flame tank thing. The que was a bit long to buy stuff tho. Never seen so many titans.
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Post by: redbristles
I heard someone (can't remember which studio person, but he was sat next to the Chaos Dwarfs, maybe it was Steve Whitehead) say that as far as an entire army of Chaos Dwarfs go, they're going to wait and see how they sell and base it on that, so from the interest in them I'm assuming they'll sell pretty well!
Also heard Darren Parrwood say that they are controlled by the main GW design studio as to what they can work on at Forge World, so they can only really do stuff that is already being done for the main line of GW. He then went on to say the entire FW studio wants to do Necrons, but they can't for a while, the Tomb Stalker was done as it currently "fits" with the line of Necrons produced by the main studio. I'm guessing that means the Necrons aren't due anytime in the immediate future then...
Overall the day was great, the queue for the sales stands was insane, when I got there at about 11:30 it was all the way around the room! The event only miniatures are lovely, but we were only allowed one of each, so those hoping to order them through Dakka members in attendance will no doubt be going without for now I'm afraid.
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Post by: Da Boss
Hmmmm, like those chaos dwarves. Hmmmm. Not the big wheeled guns, but the infantry. They look good. Wonder what the price will be...
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Post by: Kanluwen
Mixed feelings on them abandoning Priestley's idea.
On the one hand, it sucks that the grand idea is discarded.
On the other hand...I always had a nagging feeling in my head that it might just have been too grand. Like Medusa, it might have ended up just too many things kind of 'crammed' in there.
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Post by: Vitruvian XVII
Wow, some of this stuff is pure win. Well, all of it really, my wallet despises FW.
The Crassus will be top on my list, so chunky!!
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Post by: Samus_aran115
I personally dislike everything I've seen of DE so far. Really gakky stuff, IMO.
The sails look way too craftworld-y, and that haywire cannon looks horrible :3
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Post by: Kroothawk
Now an update on 40k stuff:
Vegeta365 wrote:IA11 is a good few months away unfortunately.
The rules for all of the eldar stuff has changed since the playtest rules and has changed again since the version they had on show. In particular the phantom titan is seeing large changes and they are still playtesting it! It will be more points that the copy they had there stated, much better guns, higher armour value and better holo fields. Alan was kind enough to tell me the rules he expects to be the final ones after I proved to him that I bought the first phantom Titan and said I can't play with it without rules lol. What a legend!
It will be a nice model to use with pros and cons in comparison to the warlord which is the same points cost so there comments were correct with regards to it's power!
Another example is the lynx which is seeing a huge point increase (only fair) the shadow spectres which will be both cheaper and better. Gun getting longer range too and squad size increase so you can have the 5 man squad and the exarch for example.
Hornets have changed and can now move and fire both guns which was it's biggest flaw. Can also become a flyer.
War walkers have been adressed too.
Too much to discuss at once!
Havarel wrote:Didn't get any pics, but they had a WIP salamanders dread (the dread special character from IA10). Think the MKIV ironclad as a base with new knee-pads and Iconography on the main torso. Currently known as 'Sooty'
(...)
Not sure if its been mentioned, but the models with the pre-heresy jumppacks also had PH-esque chainswords and pistols. The chainswords were a cross between the current CS and the CSM CSs (ie had the box shape of current SM, but the chain is visible about halfway down the back). Not a major difference, but clearly variant weapons. The pistols looked to be similar to the pistols in the commander upgrade pack.
Fraggle wrote:Ok as promised here’s my bit from the FW open day. Apologies in advance for the wall of text and if anyone else has covered bits….
IA11 –
Aiming to get it done for Gamesday UK.
SW – Redmaws company – models limited to characters - possibly two versions of Redmaw I’d guess as he turns into a wulfen on a total of less that 5 based on the roll of a D6 and his remaining wounds. May have some company shoulder pads etc but they haven’t started on the models yet. Some very nice new artwork in the book for SW.
Eldar – Aforementioned Phoenix Lord for shadow spectres. Probable rules for ‘special characters’ involved in the story but models unlikely. Some discussion about points and which FOC slot for spectres ( HS or FA). Still thoughts about points and weapons etc for other units (as per previous posts)
Wraithseer – Looks even better unpainted in a non static pose. 0-1 choice. Buffing powers for other wraith units as per my previous posts.
Corsairs – List includes solitaire! (apparently its therefore unlikely to make the main codex when that gets redone). Can take a vortex grenade in Apoc. WS8. Sounds like it may be getting a model as well.
Corsair entries are all jetpack troops. Options for nobles and ‘support squad’ (which may all take flamers or meltas). Special and heavy weapons upgrade parts where there as WIP. The ‘insect wings’ look a lot better in person than they did on the photo.
Mentions of a gryninx (spelling?) cat upgrade as wargear for the cosair prince/captain and also a neural shredder.
Able to include DE warriors, venom and raider which is pretty cool.
Apoc templates – the avatar one sounds great. Designed for use with the FW avatar model as kind of a mega-tar. At the start of the game he gets 2D6 wounds. Can then fire his wailing doom using the big apoc pie template but loses D3 wounds on each shot.
Also a seer council of sorts and various FA style corsair formations.
Storyline for IA11 – SPOILERS
Future IA books.
Dark Eldar are being worked on but it seems unlikely that they will be in IA12. By the sounds of it more likely 13. One possibility is that they will revisit the IA11 storyline with the DE trying to obtain the CWE tech that was discovered. Possible elder on elder action? Its all up in the air at the moment so is very subject to change. Most of staff seem to be involved with WH forge stuff.
Other releases – carcharodon transfer sheet and elder transfer sheet were there. The IG troop transport has a capacity of 25 I believe. Astral claws upgrades (shoulder pads etc) looked very good.
I’m sure I’ve forgotten some bits. If there are any specific requests for info please ask!
reu666 wrote:There was some sweet stuff just some info from what I can remember:
- the phantom titan is being changed slighty from what we saw in the book at the open day. If it stays still the shield gives it a 5+ save if it moves normally it gets a 4+ save and if it turbos it's a 3+ save which i dont think is that efeective for such a big model.(same points as a warlord titan).
- Darren Parwood talked about the thought of a Big barge ship for the DE in light of the new Low density foam model they had on show. (obveously no definates he streesed that it was just ideas he was throwing out there)
- Theres deffinatley more Mk armour coming out i think Mk4 and Mk5 and jump packs (not sure what Mk they come under)
- The next Warhammer Forge book is bretonian Vs. Khemri (in case you didnt know), plans for more chaos swarf stuff as the sculpters sounded like they where gagging to do more models for them. they were alsready looking absolutly AMAZING.
Over all a really good day they never fail to please, the guys there were as enthusiastice as ever and really good help.
If i remember any more ill keep you posted.
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i was speaking to darren and they made 3 mock ups; the first had 2 big guns which they decided wasnt how the dark eldar would fight so they scrapped that idea. 2nd mock up was a big platform raider but would of had to be tooooooo big so was too unconventional (also it looked like to raiders stuck together which he tried to avoid). the third he said was the comprimes between tham all.
DrLove42 from BoLS wrote:Now I'm home I'm just gonna regurgitate everything i remember....
Phantom Titan
WS 3, BS 4, 12/12/11 Init 2, Attacks 3
8 Structure Points
Don't expect it on sale till Gamesday (which is September here in Blighty).
Comes in at a hefty 2300 points. Features the Cobra cannon, the pulsar (which is 3 shots), the starcannon (3 shots instead of 2), which can be swapped for a pulse laser for free. Also has missile battery (S8 AP3 4 shots) and a AA mounted missile battery (S5 AP5 AA Mount). Usual 4+ invuln if it moved, but can chose to turn driver stunned into gunner stunned, so should only stop moving if it gets immobilised. Has the usual rules for fleeting titans as well, and weapons have a 12" minimum range. Only current other weapon is the sword seen previously. Will hasn't finished making it yet, but the sword comes with a 2nd twin linked starcannon built in. He also hasn't ruled out expanding the line of guns
The lady with the rule book (who i'm sure is an important person, i just don't know her name) said the reaction today towards the rules was mixed, so might be changing. (Personally I'm in the mind they are a little too expensive. 2000 points seems a better point...that fleeting instead of shooting rule is overated IMO)
As for magnetising and weapon swapping, the "torso" component comes with the body, the arm, the elbox joint and the hand. The "Gun" comes attatched to the forearm. So either can be magnetised at both ends, or drill through the arm and have a massive pin/rod from elbow to hand.
So those of you wondering this phantom, stood wide legged and stationairy is 24 inches exactly from bottom of base, to top of vanes
Warlock Titan
Will Hayes wants this. And it will happen. But probably not till the next FW Eldar book (his words) so means we get another Eldar book! it'll be the same size as a phantom, but more ornate, with more wraithbone extrusions. He joked about having the psycannon mounted on the side of the arm, so both hands were free for a giant spear
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Few months off yet, still finalising the fluff at the beginning. Focuses on Eldar, with some guard and a tiny smidge of Wolves. All eldar models ever made have rules in it, so no need to carry multiple books.
Also the big one...not all models in the books will have models. I asked if there were rules for any models we hadn't seen yet ( a sneaky way of asking if there were more kits for us to see yet). The reply was "Yes, a few more. Also some will have rules that were aren't planning on producing" The Phoenix lord of the spectres was then gestured to. So maybe not getting a model yet?
Artwork is amazing. The pictures of the eldar squadrons stalking through the tundra, with the nights sky are simply astonishing
Shadow spectres get Phoenix Lord, didn't read the stats
Corsairs get Allied DE with craftworlds, and a few new unique units and HQ choices
Solitaire is one of those new HQ. Doesn't make quins troops, is a 0-1 no matter how big the army, not an IC and can carry a vortex grenade in Apoc for 75pts
Apoc data sheets, including one which is a 550pt Avatar, has 2D6 wounds, a 2+ armour save and his wailing doom is upgraded to a Strength D 10" template. However hes still a monstrous creature, not a gargant. He's important in the story as its the avatars last stand so he goes out in a literal blaze of glory. So at the end of the game he takes D6 wounds with no saves of any kind allowed
Phantom Titans rules are above
The Wraithseer is a HQ wraithlord, his physic powers include one which force an enemy unit to take a moral check at -1 or fall back immediatly. Another gives one wraithlord or wraithguard near him fleet (!). And the other, if a friendly wriath unit within 6" dies roll a D6. On a 6 its still alive, with one wound left. It also has a 4+ invulnerable
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Dark Eldar
Initial Production and Evaluation on bits has begun. The model on show (with the double hull) is likely to be a light super heavy. I mentioned my theory that DE superheavies would look like Jabbas sail palace from Return of the Jedi he laughed and said they probably would...
Lots of concept art for DE skimmers, one of which was a super charged Ravager, that had 2 floors, each with 3 Dark Lances on both sides
Modular Boards
With the first Fw board expansion available (its very nice) someone said they were looking at expanding a lot more now they've got the technology down, with buildings, ammo dumps, train lines and trench systems forthcoming
Can't think of any more at present but if i remember anymore I'll add it!
Pic by SotonShades over at BolS (from the link earlier in this thread):
Many boards have been sold according to silentsmoke over at Warseer:
silentsmoke wrote:Spoke to the designers about the warlord titan. Quote "watch this space".
Pics by Slaaaaaanesh (I love it when there is a pro handling the camera )::
Here some pics by Minudra, collected from this gallery http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/1661/dscf0516a.jpg :
Inspired by:
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Post by: Alpharius
Kanluwen wrote:Mixed feelings on them abandoning Priestley's idea.
On the one hand, it sucks that the grand idea is discarded.
On the other hand...I always had a nagging feeling in my head that it might just have been too grand. Like Medusa, it might have ended up just too many things kind of 'crammed' in there.
That is probably why the idea has been scrapped.
Plus, they kind of already did that one, somewhat recently too...
LOVING the Chaos Dwarf stuff, obviously, but I'm a bit nervous with FW producing infantry as it might mean NO 'mainstream' GW army for them AND it WILL mean a punishing hit on the wallet!
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That IG transport looks really good.
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Post by: devilution
This is a glorious day for Chaos !
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Post by: Kanluwen
See, now this?
This makes me wonder if you could feasibly sink two of these into a mountain side made out of foam and create something reminiscent of Cheyenne Mountain.
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Post by: agnosto
I just had a nerdgasm over the chaos dwarf stuff and am really glad I didn't buy any mantic stuff.
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Post by: Kroothawk
Another update on Fantasy stuff:
Quetzl wrote:I talked to Mark Bedford about the Vermin Lord he said he basically sculpted it because he didn't want to use the old naff model in his Skaven army The model itself was pretty intense, it had a cool little anime-esque drawing of it and a mock up version too. The model was actually being sculpted around a skeleton, something I thought was really interesting!
The Turmakhan book was on display, sort of, in a rough form. A lot of illustrations were laid out to look at which were phenominal as well the book itself is going to be a right juicy tomb of information. The Chaos Dwarfs will primairliy be used as a contingent to add to your Warrior's army, however they seemed pretty sure that they'll be able to be used as a stand alone list, I'm not very good a reading and remembering rules, but most of the warmachines had two pages of rules/background/stats etc some of this stuff is going to be complicated to use. The Warsmiths also had a huge swathe of original rules and exciting nuggets, so get excited people!
On a final note, the Taurus had his nadgers all in place just like the reaper
Overal it was a really good show, I've got a few pics on my phone which aren't amazing quality. When I get a bit of time tomorrow I'll post them up.
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It wasn't huge, the model itself was on a plynth which he plans to fill with a swarm of rats But I'd say it's on par in terms of size with a Minotaur, but he is extremerly dynamic to look at. On another note, there was a dragon which I'd seen before on here, which is soon to be released, but one of the sculptors is making a female Empire sorceress to ride it before its release - he was sculpting something else in front of my eyes too.
So Trish's dragon will be released soon!
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Post by: MeanGreenStompa
Manaan's blades.... fething sweet!
I also really like the dark/raider eldar stuff and that Imperial Guard transport/mobile bunker looks great.
I think the rank and file chaos dwarves look good but almost a waste of forge resin detailing as they could be done in simple plastic and produced a lot cheaper as they seem quite 'plain'.
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Post by: Brother SRM
Kroothawk wrote:
What's the context on the RT Land Raider? Just testing out techniques, or is Forgeworld reprinting the old GW model?
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Post by: Field Gen
Sounds like a lot of fun to me!
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Post by: cygnnus
There's an old Whirlwind in the background as well...
Valete,
JohnS
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Post by: Breotan
Those almost look like upscaled versions of the old Epic models.
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Post by: MajorTom11
Think I just found my Genestealer Cult 'Limo'
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Post by: Kanluwen
Sorry, Genestealer Cult are only allowed to use Chimeras.
The Crassus is far too civilized for your kind
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Post by: Raxor
Kroothawk wrote:That reminds me, Alan Bligh the author of the new Tamurkhan book mentioned that the Chaos Dwarves would have a special character Great Taurus in addition to the standard one and that these would now be constructs powered by bound fire demons. He also said there would a monstrous infantry incarnation of these so giant flame filled suits of animated armour!
So Warhammer fantasy is finally getting Golems? 
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Post by: MajorTom11
Kanluwen wrote:Sorry, Genestealer Cult are only allowed to use Chimeras.
The Crassus is far too civilized for your kind
Your mother is a brood sister.
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Post by: RiTides
Kroothawk post from Valaraukar wrote:That reminds me, Alan Bligh the author of the new Tamurkhan book mentioned that the Chaos Dwarves would have a special character Great Taurus in addition to the standard one and that these would now be constructs powered by bound fire demons. He also said there would a monstrous infantry incarnation of these so giant flame filled suits of animated armour!
Whoooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaaaa 
MeanGreenStompa wrote:I think the rank and file chaos dwarves look good but almost a waste of forge resin detailing as they could be done in simple plastic and produced a lot cheaper as they seem quite 'plain'.
This is my thought, too- I wish we had more information on release date / price, because for pretty simple models it's a shame for them to be so expensive as to make fielding an army of them a pipe dream...
Does anyone know if there will be rules for these units in the Turmakhan book that keeps being mentioned? And when it will be released? It sounds like they're all going to hit in a wave, which is fine... I'd just like to know when it's coming in. CD as an add-on to existing chaos armies is interesting... since I have one. I'm much more tempted to use them as counts-as regular dwarves, though...
Also, the regular troopers with the long guns look Fantastic!
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Post by: Kanluwen
I almost wonder if there's a part we didn't see for the Chaos Dwarfs, in the form of embossing for the shields. Lots of blank space like that, especially on a heraldic device like a shield just doesn't seem very Forge World-y.
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
Hold the phone... Mk.I Land Raider and Whirly? Eh?
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Post by: Kanluwen
They're there to tease you, HBMC.
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
Tease me with what? I already have a Mk.I Land Raider and a Mk.I Whirlwind. I’m just surprised that FW seems to be taking this Pre-Heresy thing really seriously.
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Post by: Hatemonger
Breotan wrote:Those almost look like upscaled versions of the old Epic models.
I am quite certain that's what they are, but I'm curious about the context too. Whether they're the original 3-ups or recent casts, why bring them out now?
- H8
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Post by: Kanluwen
H.B.M.C. wrote:Tease me with what? I already have a Mk.I Land Raider and a Mk.I Whirlwind. I’m just surprised that FW seems to be taking this Pre-Heresy thing really seriously.
With surprising revelations, of course.
It is surprising that they're taking the pre-Heresy stuff as seriously as they are though.
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Post by: redbristles
Hatemonger wrote:Breotan wrote:Those almost look like upscaled versions of the old Epic models.
I am quite certain that's what they are, but I'm curious about the context too. Whether they're the original 3-ups or recent casts, why bring them out now?
- H8
They're just part of a normal display at Warhammer World showing how they do 3-ups of models, they've been there for years, sorry.
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Post by: Reaper Man 2020
Started a thread without looking properly so it has more pics and the new update sheets for the forge world catalogue with prices for some of the new stuff. I really can't face doing it all again here so I'll just post the link to the now closed off thread;
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/358349.page#top
Enjoy and I hope it gives some more info for those abroad and for those who couldn't get there! I have suitably chastised myself for not checking the news forum thoroughly!!
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Post by: Alpharius
Kanluwen wrote:H.B.M.C. wrote:Tease me with what? I already have a Mk.I Land Raider and a Mk.I Whirlwind. I’m just surprised that FW seems to be taking this Pre-Heresy thing really seriously.
With surprising revelations, of course.
It is surprising that they're taking the pre-Heresy stuff as seriously as they are though.
Given the level of interest, the tie-ins with the BL HH series and, most importantly, the money to be made, it isn't really that surprising at all.
The only surprising thing is that it took this long for them to realize all of this!
Having said that...
The MKI LR is... really not that good, especially when compared to their already existing Pre-Heresy 'style' Land Raider. I don't think they'd see many of these things.
The old school Whirlwind? Ah, maybe? Still prefer the 'newer' one, which still fits in fine with Pre-Heresy stuff.
Also, have to agree with Kan on the 'blank' Chaos Dwarf shields - something else has to be coming for them - maybe some 'Bull Heads', similar to the Standard one is carrying?
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Post by: Hatemonger
redbristles wrote:Hatemonger wrote:Breotan wrote:Those almost look like upscaled versions of the old Epic models.
I am quite certain that's what they are, but I'm curious about the context too. Whether they're the original 3-ups or recent casts, why bring them out now?
- H8
They're just part of a normal display at Warhammer World showing how they do 3-ups of models, they've been there for years, sorry.
No apology necessary, that's exactly what wanted to know. I was wondering if there was a reason they were out, or if it was simply coincidence.
- H8
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Post by: Morathi's Darkest Sin
Kanluwen wrote:
It is surprising that they're taking the pre-Heresy stuff as seriously as they are though.
Alpharius wrote:
Given the level of interest, the tie-ins with the BL HH series and, most importantly, the money to be made, it isn't really that surprising at all.
The only surprising thing is that it took this long for them to realize all of this!
Yeah I'd agree with that, although they still don't seem to have grasped that maybe a Tanith First and Only line would do them wonders as well. I can't think of many Guard players who have read those books who wouldn't love to be able to collect figs of Mkoll, Criid, Gol, Hark and Shoggy to name a few. Heck I'd imagine there would be interest from non Guard players as well.
My only hope is they do a IA book themed on the Ghosts series at some point. I mean official Blood Pact figs. *drool*
edit - I have no idea why the quote is doing that btw.
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Post by: shinzuer
No whispers of Tau stuff ?
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Post by: sonofruss
Those are epic 3 ups not ph stuff.
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Post by: Ouroborus
Not digging how the empire guys look. FFS just make them look like Artizan troops...
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Post by: Kroothawk
Some late updates from Warseer:
Ghost of War wrote:Spoke with Forgeworld and they indicated they were denied rights to make thunderwolf cav because GW is doing them in plastic.
The guy I was speaking to said they are already done and slated to be pushed out in September to go along with the big UK GamesDay.
... enjoy you wolf bastages
Time of Madness wrote:Some info on the upcoming Chaos Dwarf Army Book.
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Tamurkhan is due out in July 2011. The Chaos Dwarfs were primairliy designed to be used as a contingent to add to the Warrior's of Chaos army, however the book contains a FULL playable Chaos Dwarf Army List with many options and upgrades.
The new Chaos Dwarf infantry (Infernal Guard) are Chaos Dwarf Slaves that are forced to wear the full suit of armour and full face helmet before being unleashed on the Chaos Dwarfs enemies. The champion has no full face helmet which is a reward from his captors.
Most of the warmachines had two pages of rules/background/stats etc some of this stuff is going to be complicated to use. The Warsmiths also had a huge amount of original rules and exciting options.
Warmachines can be connected to form a seige train, however it costs a ton of points and won't be used unless you are playing 'ard boy lists (3000+pts).
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Anyways that is it for now. If you got a chance to check out the book at open day or know of more confirmed entries please add them to this thread.
Time of Madness
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Post by: Callousness
Eldar are my babies! But those Chaos Dwarfs are going to be the hardest things to resist.
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Post by: spireland
The Mk 1 landraider got my interest up. I have one and have always wanted to add more to my collection, and the possibility of getting a new/resin one would be fantastic. Automatically Appended Next Post: Reaper Man 2020 wrote:Started a thread without looking properly so it has more pics and the new update sheets for the forge world catalogue with prices for some of the new stuff. I really can't face doing it all again here so I'll just post the link to the now closed off thread;
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/358349.page#top
Enjoy and I hope it gives some more info for those abroad and for those who couldn't get there! I have suitably chastised myself for not checking the news forum thoroughly!!
I'm surprised the Phantom isn't more costly, considering it's size.
Thanks for the pics!
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Post by: RiTides
Kroothawk quoting Time of Madness (emphasis added) wrote:Some info on the upcoming Chaos Dwarf Army Book.
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Tamurkhan is due out in July 2011. The Chaos Dwarfs were primairliy designed to be used as a contingent to add to the Warrior's of Chaos army, however the book contains a FULL playable Chaos Dwarf Army List with many options and upgrades.
The new Chaos Dwarf infantry (Infernal Guard) are Chaos Dwarf Slaves that are forced to wear the full suit of armour and full face helmet before being unleashed on the Chaos Dwarfs enemies. The champion has no full face helmet which is a reward from his captors.
Most of the warmachines had two pages of rules/background/stats etc some of this stuff is going to be complicated to use. The Warsmiths also had a huge amount of original rules and exciting options.
Warmachines can be connected to form a seige train, however it costs a ton of points and won't be used unless you are playing 'ard boy lists (3000+pts).
Yes!!!!!!
*Does 10 consecutive minutes of Tiger Fist Pumps around the office*
However, I'm a little confused. If what we're seeing are pictures of slave infantry, wouldn't they need a different form of regular infantry, too? I can see why it would be slated as more of an add-on army, as it might not have enough different kinds of models on its' own. Perhaps there will be units listed (someone mentioned the monstrous infantry that was flame-filled armor) that do not yet have models, that will be sculpted / put out later? 
I crave more info...
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Post by: GCMandrake
Sorry folks, but the Mk1 Land Raider and Whirlwind were nothing to do with Forgeworld. Warhammer World has a cabinet that regularly shows off three-ups of their plastic models, and this week was three-ups of the plastic epic land raiders and whirlwinds from the 1990s. Nothing to do with Forgeworld, there won't be Forgeworld Mk1 Land Raiders or Whirlwinds.
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Post by: sonofruss
sonofruss wrote:Those are epic 3 ups not ph stuff.
Ninja'd
GCMandrake wrote:Sorry folks, but the Mk1 Land Raider and Whirlwind were nothing to do with Forgeworld. Warhammer World has a cabinet that regularly shows off three-ups of their plastic models, and this week was three-ups of the plastic epic land raiders and whirlwinds from the 1990s. Nothing to do with Forgeworld, there won't be Forgeworld Mk1 Land Raiders or Whirlwinds.
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Post by: Rochronos
Gonna follow the thread...brb
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Post by: Popsicle
Chaos Dwarfs may be just the ticket to lure me into Fantasy. There goes my wallet. Again.
As for Old School Space Marines... ****, the wallet's just been smooshed under a bus.
Why, Forgeworld? Why must you make such drool worthy, awesomesense-tingly models?
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Post by: Ozymandias
Alpharius wrote:TyraelVladinhurst wrote:
i had no problems with it myself, but i always liked the MK1 raider over the MK2b and MK3. also what's wrong with the late 2nd ed early 3rd ed missile launchers? personally they look ALOT better then the new missile launchers
...just no where near as cool as the old "Space Crusade" style Missile Launcher that was recently released, is all!
More pics!
From "Slaaaaaanesh" on Warseer:
MKV Assault Squads!
and a close up of the new Heavy Weapons, Old School style:
Must... resist... pre-Heresy Night Lords army...
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Post by: agnosto
RiTides wrote:
However, I'm a little confused. If what we're seeing are pictures of slave infantry, wouldn't they need a different form of regular infantry, too? I can see why it would be slated as more of an add-on army, as it might not have enough different kinds of models on its' own. Perhaps there will be units listed (someone mentioned the monstrous infantry that was flame-filled armor) that do not yet have models, that will be sculpted / put out later?
I crave more info...
The unit names kicked around so far sound almost exactly like the Indy Dwarfs of Chaos codex... Infernal Guard instead of Obsidian Guard, etc....even golems (which rock in-game by the way).
Unless they take to ensalving themselves, which wouldn't make sense but I wouldn't put it past GW to do, the slave infantry will probably be hobgoblins or other goblinoids.
Have to say that I'm excited. 
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Post by: Scottywan82
Give in! Do it, Ozymandias!
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Post by: RiTides
Agnosto, from the description above (I quoted it in my last message but didn't highlight it) it sounded like the models we've seen were slaves, hence the full face covering, with the unit champion having no covering as a reward.
I'm really interested in it almost no matter what they're doing, they look great and it would be a nice change of pace from the current armies available...
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Post by: agnosto
RiTides wrote:
I'm really interested in it almost no matter what they're doing, they look great and it would be a nice change of pace from the current armies available...
Then they're going to redo the entire fluff behind CDs then.
I guess I'll wait and see.
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Post by: Alpharius
No doubt!
The only slaves I am familiar with are the ones from OTHER races.
This is... odd.
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Post by: Da Boss
I don't really care about the fluff. I wanna see prices! The mantic evil dwarves leave me a bit cold because of their absolutely ridiculous hats, but I love evil dwarfs in general, especially if they've got big hordes of orcish rabble.
If forge world are three times more expensive than mantic though, it's gonna be a no go.
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Post by: agnosto
Yeah, that's the general problem with Foreworld....nice, pretty toys, insane prices. My toy to $ value ratio isn't that high because I get to play like once a month.
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Post by: Alpharius
Da Boss wrote:I don't really care about the fluff. I wanna see prices! The mantic evil dwarves leave me a bit cold because of their absolutely ridiculous hats, but I love evil dwarfs in general, especially if they've got big hordes of orcish rabble.
If forge world are three times more expensive than mantic though, it's gonna be a no go.
The prices?
And really, IF Forge World is more expensive than Mantic?
You're kidding, right?
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Post by: RiTides
It may not be quite that bad, but we'll see- Mantic's abyssal dwarfs seem to be one of the most expensive of their range, since they're a plastic/metal hybrid and had lots of add-on pieces in addition to the regular dwarf sprues they're based off of.
Edit: I think you missed the "three times more expensive", Alph
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Post by: Samus_aran115
Oh man.... OOP land raiders... That'd be one of those things I actually wouldn't mind paying out the nose for.
At least for my Chaos Army. I hate looking at the same things all of my loyalist friends use. Having an all OOP army (which I do, if I play plague) is really great looking on the table.
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Post by: Da Boss
Heh heh, yeah. If it works out I could do cheaper conversions myself, I probably will. The normal Mantic Dwarves would face-plate and mutation up fine I reckon. And I can get scadloads of them for cheap!
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Post by: Kroothawk
Alpharius wrote:No doubt!
The only slaves I am familiar with are the ones from OTHER races.
This is... odd.
Sculptor: "Huzzah, the Infernal Guard is ready!"
Manager: "Are these Chaos Dwarf Warriors? I told you that you are not allowed to sculpt Chaos Dwarf Warriors."
Sculptor: " No ... erm ... they are just slaves ... erm ... hiding their faces behind those masks ..."
Manager: "Okay then, go ahead!"
Sculptor "Phewww, that was close! Good thing he didn't see the blunderbusses!"
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Post by: RiTides
One thought is that, if this is primarily intended as add-on units for WoC, the idea of having units of goblin-type slaves would be unfair (or just not appropriate theme-wise for WoC). Imagine WoC combined with something like skaven slaves! It'd be murder...
Still psyched for the models no matter what they are, although being slaves helps explain the "plainess" of them... and if they were cheaper because of that, it might be worth it. Long shot, though, as it's probably just as costly for FW to cast a plain figure as a highly detailed one...
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Post by: DeviantApostle
I can't wait for the Dark Eldar stuff. The 'catamaran' is beautiful even in the rough.
However, the idea of fielding a Raider with a haywire blast cannon... -swoon-
Hopefully they'll Dark Eldar it up a bit more and add spiky bits before release.
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Post by: DraconicGuardian
So the Corsair Eldar can take Kabalite Warriors, and Venoms. Perhaps that might also mean a unit or two of the Corairs units could be fielded in DE armies? Cuz a unit of Jetpack troops in a DE army would be kinda sick...
I also saw something mentioned about a two-decker Ravager with SIX dark lances??? *drool*
And yes, I agree with Deviant...the Caty is really pretty! As is the idea of a haywire *CANNON*!
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Post by: Hatemonger
Alpharius wrote:
and a close up of the new Heavy Weapons, Old School style:
I would like to add a thanks to Forge World, for making my 1st- and 2nd-edition miniatures cool again.
They're not "retro", they're "pre-heresy".
- H8
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Post by: endtransmission
Hatemonger wrote:Alpharius wrote:
and a close up of the new Heavy Weapons, Old School style:
I would like to add a thanks to Forge World, for making my 1st- and 2nd-edition miniatures cool again.
They're not "retro", they're "pre-heresy".
- H8
What we need now are scout upgrade sets to make the old style scouts; especially their heavy bolter... I loved that model!
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Post by: Kroothawk
AndrewGPaul wrote:From what I heard from Will Hayes, the only bits that need to be different on a Warlock titan are the head and weapons. However, he wants to go back and add extra detail to other components, which would make it a whole new kit.
Update for our hairy friends
Petay1985 wrote:Owen confirmed that Simon Egan is going to be sculpting a Wolf Guard Battle Leader, based heavily on the artwork from the book.
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Had a long chat with Simon Egan with regard to Space Wolf projects, Owen confirmed that Simon would be 'down to work on the wolf guard battle leader' which from Simon means the awesome piece of artwork in IA11, the WGBL is in terminator armour and is armed with a thunder hammer and stormshield, the artwork has a very strong and aggressive pose, which Simon said he'd like to replicate.
Aside from the WGBL Simon said he knew of no other Space Wolf models that were being produced, he stressed that time was a big issue at late and they have had to skip alot of projects they wanted to do, which is a shame.
Simon also showed me his WIP Salamanders Dreadnought, which is intended to be Braeth Ashmantle from the Badab War but is likely to be released as a generic venerable dreadnoguht for the salamanders with unique weaponry, the concept is that it is the fore-runner to the Iron Clad dreadnought and was designed by Vulkan. The model looked absolutely lovely so far, by far the best dreadnought they've produced to date in my humble opinion.
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Post by: Scottywan82
Sad about Swolves, and about FW being rushed.
Any idea why they are being rushed?
Maybe to start up the resin-instead-of-pewter models?
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Post by: Monk1junk1
May I say, that dragon on page one is BEAUTIFUL!
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Post by: TyraelVladinhurst
FW rushed? things must be getting bad then
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Post by: Scottywan82
Getting bad how?
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Post by: AvatarForm
I only hope that the pre-heresy jump packs can be bought separately, or that the price for a squad isnt extortion...
Though, the new SM heavy Weapons poses are so much better than the static shoulder-balanced poses.
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Post by: Master Melta
Any signs of the Iron Father mentioned in a blurry snipit a few months back? I thought for sure he would be part of the next wave of new stuff!
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Post by: Hatemonger
Scottywan82 wrote:Sad about Swolves, and about FW being rushed.
Any idea why they are being rushed?
Maybe to start up the resin-instead-of-pewter models?
It said "time is an issue". I interpreted that as meaning they have more projects to complete than they have time for (much like the rest of us hobbyists), not that they are being rushed.
- H8
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Post by: Scottywan82
I know, I was just wondering what sort of timetable they are working on. Is it too many projects all of their own? Or are they being pulled in to the new resin-molding process for blisters?
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Post by: Kanluwen
Too many projects all of their own
It seems the two lines share sculptors, but not authors necessarily. They just got a few more authors in fact.
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Post by: HeRozZ x
i was there and saw the idea for the great taurus which consisted of a toy cow and the plastic daemon prince wing blue tacked on to it which was my highlight of the day
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Post by: TobyDog
I had not seen this stuff, but from Adepticon FW crew
IA 11 is looking to ship in Aug or Sept
Phantom titan is getting many more weapon options ( HtH) very soon, as well as the Warlock head. It will get the new weapons before the carapace weapons for the Reaver.
Work continues on the Warlord
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Post by: Lord Scythican
I like the large sails on the raider. I wanted to make some large sails for mine back in October, but I couldn't figure out a good way to make them. This will save me the trouble.
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Post by: Kroothawk
But the sails look very WIP, they will certainly evolve.
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Post by: Scottywan82
I just like the forward placement. I think this could work well for a Vect-Raider with the throne... in the middle? Not sure about that part.
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Post by: praetor24
Are there any news about the release dates of these sexy Pre-Heresy kits?
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