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Sons of Sek @ 2011/08/13 18:40:58


Post by: Gerner


Sons of Sek

Hi!

I started painting some weeks ago, but haven’t done much because of summer vacation. Now everything is back to normal and I will be starting to paint for real now.
=I=munda really got me inspired and I will start playing that if possible.

I have chosen to create this blog to motivate myself to continue on the painting, getting feedback, constructive criticism and general support to continue paining.

A bit about myself: I’m 22 years old, live with my dog in Copenhagen Denmark. I am a vegan for 2 years now and see myself as anarchist/non-political. Also am I a student and live off that, so don’t have so many money to support my hobby at this moment.

What you will see from me: Sons of Sek for now.

Bear in mind I only just begun.

Here are some images:









I won’t write much here unless people encourage me to it.


Sons of Sek @ 2011/08/18 16:19:24


Post by: Gerner


So I finished this guy. Right now I'm just painting for learning. But I guess he could be a veteran sergeant with a power weapon.
Pretty happy with how he turned out, I can definitely see progression.
I was thinking about giving him some highlights with elf flesh, but I am afraid of ruining him. I also still need to paint the base edge again.

Comment and Critics welcome.

Front:

Side:

Back:


Sons of Sek @ 2011/08/21 16:49:27


Post by: Gerner


Fiiiiinally I'm done with this guy. He gave me such a headache, and I still just want to through him into a jar of acetone.

The other miniatures I have painted felt like a step forward, this guy just felt like failure. I think he is ugly. Well, learning by doing.
I am getting pretty tired of the SM scouts and think I am going to paint some of random metal minis for a change.
I hope that I soon can buy some cadians and try something with them.


Sons of Sek @ 2011/08/23 20:28:57


Post by: Gerner


I am going to invest in some new paints, but I have to decide my paint scheme first.

I have been thinking a lot of going with this scheme: http://a-tacs.com/

But my fluff plan is to make them come from a more humid mountain range with more greys and darker greens, and also some snow.

More like this:
http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs48/i/2009/163/8/8/Tatra_Mountains_by_RaVeN_82.jpg

http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/204/2/3/2342e0cfcb34dd7be30e0db6330c7579.jpg

http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2010/353/4/6/river_in_the_mountains_by_jonny_island-d356z00.png

Yea, I think you got the idea by now.

I am looking to buy at least one foundation as main colour, and three to four colours to layer and make camouflage patterns. I have to consider that I use a badab black wash in the end, so they get a bit darker.

Any suggestions to what colours I should get?

And which of pattern I should go for?

Pictures or links appreciated.


Sons of Sek @ 2011/09/18 17:20:07


Post by: Gerner


So silence..?
I have been playing too much DoW, and now I finally got two more painted.
A missile launcher guy and a melee dude.

Missile Launcher:

Back:


Melee:

Back:


I started doing the production line way of painting them. All five one colour at a time, but it drove me mad and I started painted them singly again. This may not be the quickest way, but it let me do them more justice.

I'm ordering for around 90£ on wayland games in the end of the month and will get some proper tools.

(I know the missile launcher scout have mould lines.)
All comments and critics are more than welcome.


Sons of Sek @ 2011/09/18 17:26:55


Post by: Commander Cain


Good looking scouts! The camo works really well.

Cain


Sons of Sek @ 2011/09/19 09:47:57


Post by: Hindenburg


The camo is well done and looks good.


Sons of Sek @ 2011/09/24 21:03:40


Post by: Gerner


Thank you Commander Cain and Hindenburg. Means a lot to get some positive feedback, really encourage a guy like me to keep painting.

So a small update.
This is the newest guy on the block..

Front:


Back:


At this moment I feel very limited by the paints, tools and minis. I hope everything gets more intriguing when I get more stuff.


Sons of Sek @ 2011/09/24 21:24:32


Post by: Las


I like them, the scheme has real old school vibe to it. Kudos


Sons of Sek @ 2011/09/25 18:34:00


Post by: Hindenburg


Might want to add some colour to them. Maybe make the tube on the armor or the imperial symbol a different color? Just to add something to look at.

(Also a bit off topic, I just want to say that we share the same view of politics and food, although I'm vegetarian and not vegan. Yet. Thumbs up for you.)


Sons of Sek @ 2011/11/06 20:32:08


Post by: Gerner


*Waking from his deep slumber*

Days have drifted by and I have had my minds elsewhere (heresy I tell you!), but now I'm back to painting again.

I got a order home from wayland games so I finally can start my Rzakata Legion! I have made a single guy so far.

New Stuff:


Rzakata Ranger (bad light):

I can't decide if I should do highlights on him and if I should, then where.

Comment & criticism is welcome.

When I get the time I will update the first post, so keep an eye out.


Sons of Sek @ 2011/11/06 20:57:49


Post by: genom.cor


Good stuff so far. I would suggest highlighting the hard edges of the armor and the gun if you decide. They might not need it though. Keep it up!


Sons of Sek @ 2011/11/07 17:31:14


Post by: Gerner


I think I will highlight the armour and the lasgun, aswell as the boots might get a quick touch.
Thanks for the nice comments everyone.


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Better pics of the Ranger with highlight and a sneak.

Front:


Back:


A wip/sneak:

Cookie to the one who guess what he is.



Sons of Sek @ 2011/11/15 22:46:38


Post by: Gerner


So here is some more pics of the Rzakata Ranger.
I changed the base to look like moss and some rocks.
Lots of pictures.











Do I miss something on him or does he needs anything?




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The yellow warrior!













Anyone who can guess now what he is?

He needs some facelifting, and I feel he needs something more but I don't know what. Any suggestions?


Sons of Sek @ 2011/11/15 23:05:19


Post by: bunnygurl


First off, I'll say that you're really quite good for just starting out. Way better than I was. I had no idea what highlights were back when I first started. Secondly, that Rzakata Ranger looks much better with the new base. It seemed to me he was leaning too far back on the first base and he was going to fall over. This new base looks much more balanced. I have no idea who the yellow dude is though, sorry.


Sons of Sek @ 2011/11/15 23:24:35


Post by: IdentifyZero


Very nice work man, I ecpsecially like the combination of the scouts and cadians to make some unique soldiers.


Sons of Sek @ 2011/11/15 23:26:21


Post by: inquisitive inquistor


He is a son of Sek, nice attention to detail with the hand over his mouth.
My only suggestion would be to change the hand around so the fingers are pointing upwards. Nice job on the camo , very good for starting off, maybe a wash of Devlan mud.


Sons of Sek @ 2011/11/15 23:28:44


Post by: VI th legion


The Son of Sek looks nice.


Sons of Sek @ 2011/11/16 08:28:15


Post by: neil101


Nice work , The camo is believable , and the mini diorama setup is cool , your photography is immpressive, as for crits , i have big trouble doing lenses and have been researching tutorials on the subject , found this video that might help with your scouts lenses too.

Spoiler:



and this link

http://advancedtautactica.com/viewtopic.php?t=6790

http://www.heresy-online.net/forums/showthread.php?t=18193



Sons of Sek @ 2011/11/16 11:30:01


Post by: Gerner


Bunnygurl: Yea, he looked only right from one angle. So it did a lot to change the base. Thank you.

IdentifyZero: Thanks, he actual looks huge compared to the Rzakata Ranger.

Inquisitive Inquisitor: Bingo, you are correct! I have considered to turn the hand upwards, but I felt there wasn't enough room and this was my initial imagination of the Sons of Sek.

VI th legion: Thank you.

Neil101: Thank you. I photo with the minidiorama because else it seems like the white background destroys the balance. I will try to use them next time. Thank for the links.

What do you think of the Son of Sek base?


Sons of Sek @ 2011/11/18 17:09:23


Post by: Gerner


So I have run into a "serious" problem. I need around 90 modern combat axes to my Rzakata 8th.

Something like these:

&



I have looked through every games workshops products without luck and on several conversions websites. I saw some on ebay a few months back, but they are gone now.

Any suggestion to where I could find what I need? Really need some help with this one!

Also if I'm going to buy armour from Tamiya should I go for 1/35 or 1/48 scale?

Thanks in advanced!


Sons of Sek @ 2011/11/22 13:45:40


Post by: Gerner


http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/Wargames-Role-Playing-/16486/i.html?_trkparms=65%253A15%257C66%253A2%257C39%253A1&rt=nc&_nkw=Axe&_dmpt=UK_Toys_Wargames_RL&_ds=1&_fcid=57&_localstpos=&_sc=1&_sop=15&_stpos=&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14.l1513&gbr=1&_pgn=1
I finally found the axes!
Now which of them should I choose? Any opinions?


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So here are some more pictures.

I gave the Son of Sek a face lift and took a photo of him with the Ranger to show that he is somewhat bigger. The picture failed that apparently. But he is bigger than the standard cadian.


Also I finished a new Rzakata Ranger, and here he is.


And now I have played with some greenstuff and getting ready to paint two more rangers.


Comments and Criticism is very welcome!


Sons of Sek @ 2011/11/23 18:37:35


Post by: Gerner



I have made one of my dreaded list and will post it here so I don't loose it in my own mess.

Rzakata Miniature Overview:
2 Captains, 7 Sergeants, 8 Vox-Officers, 8 Medics, 6 Demolition Charges, 8 Snipers, 5 Meltas, 3 Combat Shields, 3 Grenade Launchers, 2 Heavy Bolters, 2 Heavy Bolter Loaders, 2 Missile Launchers, 2 Missile Launcher Loaders, (22) 4 Lasguns, (12) 2 Shotguns, 8 Bikes, 4 Buggies, 10 Wolves, 2 Alpha Wolves, 6 Yethees & 1 Warbeast.

Sergeants can be armed with: Thunderhammer, Power Weapon, Combat Shield, Storm Shield, Close Combat Weapon, Eviscerator, Boltgun, Boltpistol, Meltagun, Sniper, Inferno Pistol, Shotgun, Laspistol & Lasgun



Sons of Sek @ 2011/11/27 20:47:17


Post by: Gerner


I wanted to remove the paint from all the scouts I had painted so I could reuse the parts into Rzakata and Sons of Sek.
I left them in a jar of nail remover (without aceton).

I shouldn't have done that. They smeared out and bulged up. They are forever destroyed! Buhuuu!

Not fun when you are low on money already.


Sons of Sek @ 2011/11/27 21:22:35


Post by: A Kvlt Ghost


Ouch, dude. That's harsh.


Sons of Sek @ 2011/11/28 13:15:02


Post by: Gerner


A Kvlt Ghost wrote:Ouch, dude. That's harsh.

Yea, real fething stupid.


Sons of Sek @ 2012/01/16 16:04:37


Post by: Gerner


Here is some "lore" and pictures from me. I finally got this finished and I feel a great success. There was a time when I got really angry, the Bike just wouldn't stick to the base. But I got it.
Now enjoy.

The Rzakata Swift Expedition Bike (also known as SEB)

The SEB is armed with several blessing from the Adeptus Mechanicus. The first and most important is the engine which is surrounded by specific noise dampers, which decrease the sound and heat from the engine to a minimum, which also makes it very hard to see on thermal imaging. The engine is turbo charged and can reach a speed at 300 km per hour (on flat terrain). In difficult terrain is where the bike really shows its value. The SEB can drive through all kinds of terrain from high mountains to water filled swamps. The wide tires ensure a good grip on whatever surface the SEB needs to go over. The SEB is armed with either twin-linked bolters or a grenade launcher both of them attached with an infrared scope to increase aim and chance of hit. A strong auspex is installed on the bike to inform the driver on nearby targets and can send the data to other squads to inform them on enemy position. A vox-caster is equipped on the bike so even from great distances the driver can relay information to other squads, making the SEB ideal for scouting missions. The entire bike has been given a camoline coating hiding it in all types of terrain, on the move or if it’s sitting still, the SEB is a silent and fast killer ready to spring its trap on unaware opponents.







Here are some WIP pictures of the bike.







Hope you all like it, and as always comments and constructive criticism is very welcome!



Sons of Sek @ 2012/01/16 16:15:57


Post by: Rawson


Gerner wrote:So here is some more pics of the Rzakata Ranger.


I like your Ranger! I've never seen anyone put a scout visored head on a Cadian body before. I like the tech-y look it gives!

What army list are you playing them as? Can't quite figure it out since you've got SM scouts, IG troopers, and Renegade troopers all together

Gerner wrote:
I see myself as anarchist/non-political. Also am I a student and live off that

On a more personal note: how can one be an anarchist and live off of money from the government? Maybe I misinterpreted what you were saying there? Not to be a jerk, of course, just curious...

Anyways, keep up the good work!
Rawson


Sons of Sek @ 2012/01/16 17:21:07


Post by: dsteingass


Man, those are some great figs man! That is EXACTLY how I got started, but with Plastic Catachans! Parts and stuff will acumulate before you know it Keep up the good work man!


Sons of Sek @ 2012/01/16 17:51:35


Post by: Capitansolstice


They look really good with the scout heads!


Sons of Sek @ 2012/01/16 18:25:12


Post by: Gerner


Rawson wrote:I like your Ranger! I've never seen anyone put a scout visored head on a Cadian body before. I like the tech-y look it gives!

What army list are you playing them as? Can't quite figure it out since you've got SM scouts, IG troopers, and Renegade troopers all together

Gerner wrote:
I see myself as anarchist/non-political. Also am I a student and live off that

On a more personal note: how can one be an anarchist and live off of money from the government? Maybe I misinterpreted what you were saying there? Not to be a jerk, of course, just curious...

Anyways, keep up the good work!
Rawson


I find most of the imperial guard heads some what ugly, so I use scout heads and whatever heads I can find instead. They are meant to be good equipped and all of them have either infrared visors or scopes and various other better tech items.

The Sons of Sek i'm just planning to make a small IG list, but the Rzakata Legion is going to be made a home-made codex I think.

No offence taken. Meaning i'm non-political and anarchist means pretty much I'm not interest in politics and I haven't the biggest respect for the law. That doesn't change the fact that I need to do somethings recording to some laws and rules to live here. For example I need to respect that I have to pay for food and shelter, and that is pretty much was my student money goes on.

Thanks, really need the encouragement!

dsteingass wrote:Man, those are some great figs man! That is EXACTLY how I got started, but with Plastic Catachans! Parts and stuff will accumulate before you know it Keep up the good work man!

I also have some plastic cadians, and actual the legs is from there, but the upper bodies and arms is not so good looking.
And cheers!

Capitansolstice wrote:They look really good with the scout heads!

Thanks Capitansolstice!

What do you think about the biker?


Sons of Sek @ 2012/01/16 19:26:33


Post by: Viktor von Domm


mate! i just stumbled due to dsteingass thread to yours...and boy was that worth it... that camo is really your thing! so many different versions even and all look very good!

don´t get too down on to few responses... it is sometimes that way and then your thread opens up and you get many followers. maybe you should rename your thread... something more catchy and then you catch more attention^^



Sons of Sek @ 2012/01/16 19:29:45


Post by: Galorn


Not too shabby. for axes I'd seriously suggest looking at Beastman, WoC, and Empire Militia bits.


Sons of Sek @ 2012/01/17 13:52:33


Post by: Gerner


Viktor von Domm wrote:mate! i just stumbled due to dsteingass thread to yours...and boy was that worth it... that camo is really your thing! so many different versions even and all look very good!

don´t get too down on to few responses... it is sometimes that way and then your thread opens up and you get many followers. maybe you should rename your thread... something more catchy and then you catch more attention^^


Thanks a lot, I hope you stay around.
Well, all the first ones compromising most of scout parts are dead in an attempt to clean from paint, but the Rzakata I'm sticking with. I really like doing the camouflage part, but sometimes it gets too much and I do something else (like the sons of sek).

I think that "A Conscripts Blog" sounds catchy, but on the other hand it sounds very newbie too. Any hot suggestions?

Galorn wrote:Not too shabby. for axes I'd seriously suggest looking at Beastman, WoC, and Empire Militia bits.

Thanks Galorn. What I have seen of the warhammer axes they are very crude and big. I'm looking for something they could throw and that look a bit more modern.


I'm in the progress of making several Rzakata's and one Son of Sek.

I saw this beast on youtube called Riptide and it got me wondering if I could build anything that looked like it, and if yes what part I should get?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=TtPeAac8EYk


Sons of Sek @ 2012/01/17 14:18:14


Post by: Viktor von Domm


well the title per se is not that bad... but since camo swing so well for you...how about reflecting that in the title...maybe even make a step by step? this could bring lots of attention...

and i read about your nail remover accident...that hurt even when i read it... i can imagine how bad you must´ve felt then...

and yep...camo needs to be replaced once in a while with such vibrant schemes as your sons of sek...maybe you could use that as a title...so mayn options... and yep...i intend to stay^^

as for the riptide tank... my best bet would be either search for a 1:35 tank or go with a chimera kit and some plasticcard and start converting like blazes...the shape seems doable...


Sons of Sek @ 2012/01/17 19:45:26


Post by: Gerner


Viktor von Domm wrote:well the title per se is not that bad... but since camo swing so well for you...how about reflecting that in the title...maybe even make a step by step? this could bring lots of attention...

and i read about your nail remover accident...that hurt even when i read it... i can imagine how bad you must´ve felt then...

and yep...camo needs to be replaced once in a while with such vibrant schemes as your sons of sek...maybe you could use that as a title...so mayn options... and yep...i intend to stay^^

as for the riptide tank... my best bet would be either search for a 1:35 tank or go with a chimera kit and some plasticcard and start converting like blazes...the shape seems doable...
'

Hmn, I will try to think about something smart and catchy.
Have promised a mate to do a step by step camouflage guide, so it will ofcourse come up here as well.

Thanks Viktor, I hope you will enjoy the stay.

Yea, so long I was too. I need to find a good place to buy plasticcard and then get going.

Just finished this guy, he is meant to be a Rzakata Barbarian Sergeant:


No way satisfied, I think I will pop of his upper body, and reuse the legs for another Rzakata.
I have learned, that I need to learn skin probably or take the time to do it right at least. Also the waist needs some love.

Any tips/ideas on painting skin or how I could improve him?


Sons of Sek @ 2012/01/17 20:26:29


Post by: MrMerlin


very nice scouts you got there. The guardsman conversions work very well!


Sons of Sek @ 2012/01/17 22:43:41


Post by: Viktor von Domm


for the skin i would actually cheat... why not make him look camo even there? like arnie in the predator movie:






Sons of Sek @ 2012/01/19 16:06:24


Post by: Gerner


Good idea Viktor.

I think I will try to repaint his skin with a thinned ogryn flesh again and highlight. But if it fails again, I will go for this.

Any good recommendations on how to do it?


Sons of Sek @ 2012/01/19 17:42:23


Post by: Shadow Nugz


These Ranger dudes are really cool conversions! I'm surprised I haven't seen this conversion before. The norm for conversions is usually scout legs with Cadian bodies but I never though about this combo. Great thinking!!


Sons of Sek @ 2012/01/19 22:06:43


Post by: Viktor von Domm


personally i just splash a hell of a wash over the skin tone and call it a day...but that is just lazy me...and besides i never had to paint so much bare skin... so i am not the right person to answer that question^^


Sons of Sek @ 2012/01/28 21:37:56


Post by: Gerner



I really need some help to finish these two pieces.

First of I think this small terrain piece need some more colours, but I don't know really what more to add.




And a small free hand warning sign:



Also I need some help to finish this Son of Sek. I think I will give him another coat of sunburst yellow,wash him with ?? and then highlight him with sunburst yellow. Finish his base and do something about his face. All suggestions are appreciated!

(sorry for the blurry picture)






All feedback is much appreciated.


Sons of Sek @ 2012/01/29 13:53:16


Post by: Viktor von Domm


well for the terrain piece i think making hazard stripes would be a good start...and maybe on the connecting sprue part glue a wheel? to suggest a stutting device?...

as for the son of sek...sorry...atm i only see a wash that might be helpful...other than that i am a blank...


Sons of Sek @ 2012/02/04 20:28:49


Post by: Gerner


So while I'm enjoying my pizza for dinner, I thought I would give you an update.

I will maybe get a job soon, making sure I get some more money for the hobby. Finger crossed.

On another note I have painted the Son of Sek finish and taken some picture him, the terrain piece that is also done and my girlfriend stole one with me painting with the pigs.
Here they are:

Son of Sek with lasgun:


Terrain with Sons of Sek:


Me painting with the pigs:


I will continue working on my two Rzakata Legionnaires when I'm done with the pizza.

As always comments and criticism are very welcome!


Sons of Sek @ 2012/02/04 23:29:37


Post by: Viktor von Domm


is that painting pose helpful to you? my back would ache all over that way lol...

and it seems that your pigs are rather fond of your work^^

the son of sek i just regognized has the trigger hand from the scoutsprue... nice idea and i like the look of the hammer still on the lasgun... somehow i think that look is way beter than the original one...

one thing tho... i think the aquilla is standing in the way to call this model finished... on the screenscale it attracts quite a bit of attention...might be otherwise tho on the table...


Sons of Sek @ 2012/02/18 22:03:00


Post by: Gerner


I have a big handkerchief around my neck, so my back looks weird. It's not that bad. This way the table is closer to me than if I sat on my chair at my desk.

Yea, the lasgun came out really cool. Looking forward to do more of them, unfortunately I don't have more scout bodies.

I see what you mean, but it's hard to see on the model and it might be an imperial gun, he just have defaced. But I will go back and change it at some point. Thanks for pointing it out.

So I got creative, and I thought I would practise my green stuff skills with a try at a truescale space wolf.
Here are the work in progress as I thought I would let the greenstuff stiffen up till tomorrow.



And here with a shot comparison to a normal human.


I don't have any clay shapers, but I hope to acquire some soon.
Also all comments and criticism is welcome since I could use some wise words.


Sons of Sek @ 2012/02/18 22:06:26


Post by: Rawson


Gerner wrote:I don't have any clay shapers, but I hope to acquire some soon.

I bought a 5-pack off eBay not so long ago, but I don't really use all the shapes. PM me if you're interested.


Sons of Sek @ 2012/02/20 22:11:47


Post by: Gerner


So I finished modelling the truescale space wolf (I think). Any suggestions or alterations before I prime him? (Can't wait to get to paint him!)

Here are some pictures:





I need your comments and criticism.


Sons of Sek @ 2012/02/20 22:22:33


Post by: Viktor von Domm


did you sand the parts you greenstuffed? looks like that... i hope you get a smooth finish on these parts... i tried to sand GS and it is really unnerving... maybe add a very thin layer of GS over that? or do you think the primer will hide it all?

one minor thing tho too... there is still some surplus GS in the joint of arm and shoulder/chest... of the chainsword wielding arm... maybe slice it off a bit...

other than that... go for the painting!!! cool looking mini!


Sons of Sek @ 2012/02/20 22:38:24


Post by: Chaplain Cy


really diggin your camo dude, keep up the good work


Sons of Sek @ 2012/02/21 10:54:04


Post by: Gerner


@Viktor: I used a small model file and a hoby knife trying to smooth it more out. I first did a normal layer of greenstuff, then painted some liquid greenstuff on and then use the file and hobby knife to try smooth it more out.

Thanks I will look into the joint!

@Chaplain City: Thanks man. I have considered scratching it and just making them black special ops kind of suits.


Sons of Sek @ 2012/02/23 21:31:06


Post by: Gerner


I'm making an order from wayland games tomorrow (and using their free shipping code), and would like to know if you have any thoughts on something I really had to buy that would fit my rzakata legion, sons of sek or would be good to start some throne agents.

I had planned to by a space marine scout set, Catachan Heavy Weapon Team, Cadian Command Squad and Catachan Command Squad. But as I said I'm really open for suggestions for more experienced people.


Sons of Sek @ 2012/02/23 22:27:28


Post by: Baiyuan


If you own liquid greenstuff I have some quick and easy tips for you to get super smooth surfaces:
For bigger gaps always use normal GS.
For smaller areas and surface work use LGS in thin layers.
Apply a suitably small amount of it with a cheap brush directly to the area you're working on. Clean your brush in a glass of water, wipe off the excess water and use the damp brush to spread the LGS over the adjoining surfaces. Let it dry for a couple of minutes and you'll have a super smooth surface, no sanding. (Repeat if the first layer didn't do it.)



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Btw: The command squads are pretty much the best plastic boxes for everything imperial, you can't go wrong with those.


Sons of Sek @ 2012/02/23 22:43:35


Post by: Viktor von Domm


sorry gerner... no other ideas currently on my part... yours are pretty much what i would go for too...^^


Sons of Sek @ 2012/02/24 11:17:44


Post by: Gerner


@Baiyuan: Thanks for the tip; I will remember it to next time. Because if you just brush the liquid greenstuff on, it can leave brush marks. And thanks for looking by.

@Viktor: Okay, coolio.

I thought that someone might have a suggestion on a plastic set that had a ton of good bits for conversions and customization.


Sons of Sek @ 2012/02/24 22:55:19


Post by: Baiyuan


Gerner wrote:I thought that someone might have a suggestion on a plastic set that had a ton of good bits for conversions and customization.

IG Command Squads are the best. Other sets would be much more special, depending on what you're planning to do. Empire Flagellants are great. Everything GK has the nicest bitz. But then again, don't ask me, I buy one plastic box after another, just for the bitz. I've almost completed my collection of the plastic troop boxes from WFB and 40k. I just love to browse through the bitz without worrying about shipping time and actual appearance once you have it in hands.


Sons of Sek @ 2012/03/04 13:57:11


Post by: Gerner


Hello ladies and gentlemen.

Just to prove that I am not dead, here are some WIP of my truescale space wolf.
(The stripes on his chainsword is a killer to do.)






I am going to paint his base now, and then going to give him a devlan mud wash.
Any critique or suggestions before the wash comes on?


@Bayiyuan: I also find most bitz sites have sold out of the bitz I need.


Sons of Sek @ 2012/03/04 18:03:34


Post by: Capitansolstice


You have a little splotch of red on the exhaust for thee backpack, might want to clean that


Sons of Sek @ 2012/03/04 20:33:22


Post by: Gerner


Thanks Captainsolstice, I did notice that when I got the pictures up here.

I have painted the base and given him the wash.

Barrel will be drilled shortly.
I tend to do highlights after washes, and will do that tonight as well.
Else I hope to try some battle damage on him and some snow with baking powder.

I think I can get done before I go to bed.


Sons of Sek @ 2012/03/04 20:35:26


Post by: Capitansolstice


Cant wait!


Sons of Sek @ 2012/03/05 21:27:00


Post by: Gerner


I have decided to post some of the fluff that I use both in my dark heresy campaign and to my miniatures (as they often overlap).

I will be updating with more, that will be anything from small stories to army list testers, and I thought you should be able to get a view of it as well.

Anyways, always feel free to throw in a comment or some critique.

To start of I got two reports written by a Sister of Battle to the Arch-Cardinal of the Calixis Sector, explaining who these heretics are.

Report on Asaid Virenus

Report on Magos Vathek

Hopefully I will end up on making around thirty of these reports.
If there is any one of you who would like to use the same "sketch" then shout and I will put it up here and explain the settings.



Sons of Sek @ 2012/03/06 17:03:39


Post by: Gerner


So this is how he looks now:







I'm really close to repaint all of the fenris grey and give it another try on battle damage and on the highlights.
I'm not in anyway satisfied with him.

Else he just needs a touch up on the black wolf mark, the decal and some snow on the base.

Can't decide if I should repaint the blue, please help.
What do you think?

I really need some help and advise to finish him.


Sons of Sek @ 2012/03/06 22:03:12


Post by: Capitansolstice


I like it!


Sons of Sek @ 2012/03/07 22:18:10


Post by: Baiyuan


Nice attempt at battle damage. The shine in the picture makes it harder to see, but it doesn't look bad at all. As a suggestion, maybe make it more realistic by adding some black ink to the top of the scratches and a highlight to the paint at the bottom of them.


Sons of Sek @ 2012/03/07 22:24:39


Post by: Gerner


Thanks for the nice comments.

I have started repainting him.
He is all fenris grey again. Soon will highlights with first shadow grey and then space wolf grey come.
Then some battle damage, first black then with boltgun.
Finally a devlan mud wash and a few touch-ups.

Should improve him.


Sons of Sek @ 2012/03/15 21:50:24


Post by: Gerner


I'm not dead!
But my painting mojo have been, and therefor not much on the space wolf have been done.

But I went shopping today.

Some tools and things to spice up my Sons of Sek.

Models will come tomorrow.


Sons of Sek @ 2012/03/15 22:07:43


Post by: Viktor von Domm


your sons of sek kitted with STG 44... now that is a sight i want to see^^


Sons of Sek @ 2012/03/15 22:21:43


Post by: dsteingass


Those battlefield Acc. sprues in that box are very useful stuff! I have bought many of them!


Sons of Sek @ 2012/03/15 22:54:03


Post by: Viktor von Domm


will be interesting to see how the scale works on GW models...


Sons of Sek @ 2012/03/16 07:41:16


Post by: Gerner


Viktor von Domm wrote:will be interesting to see how the scale works on GW models...

Last night I compared them to each other, and it isn't half bad.
They are somewhat thin, but with some greensuff and some cutting I think, that I can make something awesome out of this.
They are of course big, but so is GW's weapons.

And they are of course a lot cheaper than the heavy weapon set.

@dsteingass: Yea, I think they are going to be fun.


Sons of Sek @ 2012/03/16 08:35:37


Post by: Viktor von Domm


if it is stil possible i would love to see a full shot of the sprues...


Sons of Sek @ 2012/03/16 10:19:18


Post by: Gerner


I will take the shots after school!


Sons of Sek @ 2012/03/16 11:49:16


Post by: Viktor von Domm


perfect!^^


Sons of Sek @ 2012/03/16 16:53:10


Post by: Gerner


Soo I got a package today:


It was a very nice package:


This will kick start my Sons of Sek again!

Also, I promised Viktor to take some pictures of the 1/35 scale weapons to compare with 40k, and here they are:



Some close-ups:




It is really a sin to be sitting at the computer with all of the nice options I have now.


Sons of Sek @ 2012/03/16 21:57:29


Post by: Viktor von Domm


It is really a sin to be sitting at the computer with all of the nice options I have now.


reading this as you are offline i expect you to make the most of these very neat materials atm^^

thank your for these very detailed and informative shots... and you even thought ahead and placed a lasgun for comparrision too! that is very kind of you sir!^^

what buggers me a a bit is that there ARE very good weapons on the sprue but you only ever get one of each...only exception of the rule is the MP40, which is twice there... the browning or the MG§ is only once there and i see in these the topmost potential for your work!!! the STG44 also is a good choice for future conversions...the rest...all those rifles will need some bulking up for being a good use to your cause...

seing the new suply drop of yours...i am now really looking forward to your new update mate! you have some very tasty kits to convert the heck out of these^^


good luck and have fun with these!

cheers, vik


Sons of Sek @ 2012/03/16 22:02:53


Post by: Gerner


Viktor von Domm wrote:thank your for these very detailed and informative shots... and you even thought ahead and placed a lasgun for comparrision too! that is very kind of you sir!^^

what buggers me a a bit is that there ARE very good weapons on the sprue but you only ever get one of each...only exception of the rule is the MP40, which is twice there... the browning or the MG§ is only once there and i see in these the topmost potential for your work!!! the STG44 also is a good choice for future conversions...the rest...all those rifles will need some bulking up for being a good use to your cause...

My foresight classes have paid off.

There are two of each sprue in a pack..! Tadaaa!

Also you can do as me and go out and buy this: http://www.coolminiornot.com/shop/instant-mold.html and use some greenstuff to make your own copies.

EDIT: Forgot to tell that I'm out of superglue, and only have pva glue left so not much sticking parts together tonight.


Sons of Sek @ 2012/03/16 22:11:37


Post by: Viktor von Domm


ohoh... superglue shortage.... scourge of the hobby world...we all had to endure that one time or the other.... it´s like christams and getting your favorite radio controlled car and with no batteries included...and the shops open up not before after the holidays.... that IS pure terror!!!

have you worked with instant mold? does it really work? i know they always say it does but...well really? i know anvilindustries even sell a cheaper variant on ebay... so...i have long eyed with that idea....



Sons of Sek @ 2012/03/16 22:21:12


Post by: Gerner


I haven't used it my self yet, but I have internet friends who have used it with success already.

I don't expect it to work wonders (as the video can show), but you can get a very good result if you have patience and are willing to try.


Sons of Sek @ 2012/03/16 22:32:40


Post by: Viktor von Domm


well... i always wanted to one day make my own small run of torsos and such things... hmmm... i keep that in the back of my mind for future use^^


Sons of Sek @ 2012/03/16 22:51:31


Post by: dsteingass


I REALLY like the M-1 Carbine! That is begging to be turned into a Las Carbine!


Sons of Sek @ 2012/03/17 20:44:30


Post by: Gerner


@dsteingass: Working on it.

So here are the start on my Sons of Sek Company Command Squad:


And here is a close up of the bases they are going to be on:


Two bodyguards have been collected so far:


Six more to go, and then playing with greenstuff will begin.


Sons of Sek @ 2012/03/17 21:18:30


Post by: Viktor von Domm


if you have any plastic card tubes i would change the barrel and possibly the clip of the MP40...looks a bit too small there... the rest is looking very cool!


Sons of Sek @ 2012/03/17 21:25:10


Post by: Baiyuan


The grease gun doesn't work for me, it's too puny for a cadian nutcracker.


Sons of Sek @ 2012/03/18 02:54:44


Post by: dsteingass


If you put a Las-flash supressor on the barrel...give it that oversized 40k feeling, I think maybe the Grease Gun would work. But as-is Big B is right.


Sons of Sek @ 2012/03/18 18:44:36


Post by: Gerner


Okay, all of you merry folks I hear ya!
Saving the grease gun for maybe a needle pistol.

I have yellow-tacked the commander (maybe count as Straken) and glued one of the flamers.

So now they are four out of eight:


Any opinions?

PS. I must be the slowest person ever!


Sons of Sek @ 2012/03/18 19:16:52


Post by: Viktor von Domm


are adjustments of the flamer still possible? i think the grenade hand looks better if turned just a tad...

the commander looks ace...where did you get that torso? these curved lines look very ornamental... havent seen that before...and also the powerfist looks very detailed...all from the SM scout kit? i din´t knew???


Sons of Sek @ 2017/02/20 09:08:03


Post by: Gerner


Yea, everything is possible.
What way would you have me turn it? Up or down?

The plasma pistol, powerfist, the hand holding the flamer and the body are all from the space wolves pack set.


Sons of Sek @ 2012/03/18 21:19:24


Post by: Viktor von Domm


ah spacewolves... one day i have to get me that kit too...


the grenade wielding and i would turn so that it looks a bit less as if he would strain his wrist... difficult to say...tried it to fix it via gimp but it didn´t look good... we need to develop 3d pics soon^^



Sons of Sek @ 2012/03/18 21:25:24


Post by: Gerner


Very nice kit, filled with lots of plasma.

Want me to move the whole arm or just twist the hand?
Should the grenade be higher or lower?


Sons of Sek @ 2012/03/18 21:39:12


Post by: Viktor von Domm


twst it...just some small degree...the arm is good as is...

and also the heads are what i would go for from the wolfen kit... i heard there are around 50 in the kit... now that is what i call service^^


Sons of Sek @ 2012/03/20 09:13:48


Post by: Gerner


I really like the feral look most of the heads have from the space wolf pack set.

I didn't quit get what you meant, but I tried to change his arm position.
Now you have to tell me if this is any better?

I corrected on the commander and on the first flamer:


And I have created two flamers more:


Now I need to do the heavy flamer and the "priest", and then greenstuffing shall begin.

What do you think?


Sons of Sek @ 2012/03/20 11:22:08


Post by: Viktor von Domm


i now realize that the grenade holding hand was a complete bit and not a hand attached to a scout arm... silly me... yeah it looks cool now^^

that mini flamer looks funny... one question tho... will the catachan arms remain bare? or get clothed? i think it always looks fishy to have clothed and unclothed arms on one model...
oh and by the way... the grenade flame...will his arm look later like bionics? just realized you used a tactical arm on that one...


Sons of Sek @ 2012/03/20 12:19:19


Post by: Gerner


Hehe, no worries!

Fishy?
I don't know if I should gs cloth on them, maybe a tattered shirt and maybe put some spare shoulderpads on as well. But I was thinking that handling flamers would be a very warm deal and that they would have torn/burned off some of their clothing.
What do you think?

Yea, I was thinking as using them as bionics or enhanced armour.

I think it will look better when I paint them up.


Sons of Sek @ 2012/03/20 12:21:43


Post by: Viktor von Domm


torn arms i think would work... one still intact sleeve and the other battleworn... that would look good...if you have add a shoulderpad...

and yep...everything looks better painted...


Sons of Sek @ 2012/03/20 21:40:52


Post by: Gerner


I will try to create that.
The plans with the Sons of Sek army was to learn and become good enough to make some more challenging things.

Heavy flamer and "priest" done!


Now they are all going to get some greenstuff first, then they will get some more gear and their bases spiced up.
After that it is primer time, so still a long way to go.

What do you guys think?


Sons of Sek @ 2012/03/20 22:27:51


Post by: InquisitorRoeth


Gerner wrote:I will try to create that.
The plans with the Sons of Sek army was to learn and become good enough to make some more challenging things.

Heavy flamer and "priest" done!


Now they are all going to get some greenstuff first, then they will get some more gear and their bases spiced up.
After that it is primer time, so still a long way to go.

What do you guys think?



My initial reaction to seeing the Priest and his eviscerator:

............. ............. ............. ............


Sons of Sek @ 2012/03/20 22:40:43


Post by: swampyturtle


heresy! blind bloody heresy!

Looking really good man! I like the WWII weapons, thats gonna be cool for a auto-gun / Lasgun feel to them, Espcially the thompson and the grease gun. consider me subscribed!

My Tanith would have fun playing against some Sons of Sek


Sons of Sek @ 2012/03/20 22:45:50


Post by: Viktor von Domm


that priest looks very good , tho that longer sword (forgott the true name...) needs a bit thickening...with a bit of plasticcard and you are set!

and yes... we live, we learn^^


Sons of Sek @ 2012/03/21 08:55:43


Post by: Gerner


@InquisitorRoeth: Thanks, I guess. I'm planning on either that putting some greenstuff on the tip or removing the tip.

@Swampyturtle: Thanks. The "thompsom" will be as counting as a las pistol.
I will get over and throw a comment on your taniths.

@Viktor: Eviscerator. I don't know if I think it is too large and remove the tip, or if I will strengthen it with greenstuff.


If I should buy some plastic cards and rods, what thickness should I go for?


Sons of Sek @ 2012/03/21 11:28:22


Post by: Viktor von Domm


hmm... if you could flesh it out with pc then i think you should leave the tip as is... that evicerator needs that big size... so...^^

thickness of PC... well... not too think...1mm- 2 mm? and for some further detail the really thin stuff... probably 0.5mm


Sons of Sek @ 2012/03/21 13:12:59


Post by: dsteingass


ALWAYS use 1mm (0.40") for most everything, with some thinner and thicker stuff for detail like Vik said.


Sons of Sek @ 2012/03/21 14:47:32


Post by: Gerner


Okay 1mm is going to be bought on friday.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Any encouraging words before I start my greenstuff adventure?


Sons of Sek @ 2012/03/21 20:59:33


Post by: Viktor von Domm


have fun and use vaseline only for greenstuffing purposes...remeber that stuff doesn´t mix too well with latex


Sons of Sek @ 2012/03/24 17:57:15


Post by: Gerner


With latex? O.o
I use water, vaseline is for girlies.

A small pictureless update:

I had a few bad days with a bad mood, but today I got started again.
I greenstuffed some torn sleeves, filling some wholes and tried to make the torso and legs come better together.

I tried to sculpt/cut a Khorne Symbol on a shoulder-pad, ending with failure.
Then my girlfriend, kind as she is, tried to make it.
And you know what? She makes it perfect!
Damn annoying! I don't know if to love or hate her for it.
She have offered to make more, but I think I should focus to learn it myself.

That is it, I'm out!


Sons of Sek @ 2012/03/25 06:28:46


Post by: genom.cor


Make a simple green stuff mold from her perfect one and your set.


Sons of Sek @ 2012/03/25 21:56:32


Post by: Viktor von Domm


yeah... pressmould it...

but then...be thankful for a GF that understands and helps even your hobby... that is very rare...!!! and i am talking one in a million chances of rare here!


Sons of Sek @ 2012/03/26 20:51:44


Post by: Gerner


@Genom.cor: That is called cheating.
On a serious note, I'm not going to do it.
The whole idea with this army was to learn and evolve as much as possible.
If I just copied her symbol, I wouldn't learn to do it my self.

@Viktor: Yea, I'm slowly realising that. I have made up my mind to lure her with an evil scheme.


Does any know a good way to give her an overview of the different armies?
So I could introduce her to them, and maybe get her to pick one.


On another note, here are some pictures:

Bodyguards, Commander and "Priest":


And the three flamers and the one heavy flamer:


The wicked good khorne symbol my girlfriend did, her first try with greenstuff:



Tomorrow I will start doing some hands and making more symbols.


Sons of Sek @ 2012/03/26 20:59:47


Post by: Viktor von Domm


overview...only lexicanum... buut i think that is also too much to read...

only the big red book...that could help...for giving her some options the easiest way...

say your GF the khrone symbol looks very good! and she definatyl should make more stuff with GS... lots of potential!

seeing these progressing minis... will this be a very hot army your sons´o sek? those short sleaves on the priest look very good by the way!


Sons of Sek @ 2012/03/26 21:11:21


Post by: Gerner


Yea, I was thinking picture wise. Her english really sucks.

The big red book?

I told her and she just blushed and smiled, I take that as a good thing.

Well, it wasn't the plan but there special weapons will consist of flamers and plasma guns so I suppose.
Thanks, pretty glad my self as well.


Sons of Sek @ 2012/03/26 21:13:33


Post by: Viktor von Domm


well in the rules book of GW the major factions get portrayed...but well if you are already on dakka... show her some pics in the gallery...that would be the easiest way to spark some interrest i guess...

cool...i made an unknown female blush^^ i still have it



Sons of Sek @ 2012/03/27 18:31:11


Post by: dsteingass


Vik, the silver-tongued devil!


Sons of Sek @ 2012/03/27 20:37:12


Post by: Viktor von Domm


hehe^^


Sons of Sek @ 2012/04/09 20:49:10


Post by: Gerner


I'm alive! I'm not dead!

Soo, I actual sprayed them and had them with me on holiday at my parents, but of course I didn't get anything done there.
But know I'm back and today I got started by painting them all the first layer of yellow.

Here is the result:



I'm not sure if the officer cap should be yellow too.
The yellow is really a pain to paint and get to cover the black, but it is okay.

This is also the first time I really do more than one mini at a time.


Sons of Sek @ 2012/04/09 20:58:47


Post by: Viktor von Domm


if you have problems with the yellow... start by gradualy working upwards to yellow... you could use brown as a basecoat there or you use a foundation as the first coat...denehb stone works fine for me to get the lighter tones done good...not that it looks as if you have any problems there^^...

as for the cap...either let it stay yellow or go for a black one... that could look quite good^^


by the way...very clean job there!!!


Sons of Sek @ 2012/04/10 13:20:10


Post by: Gerner


Clean? It is very messy!
But thanks for the nice words!

I have used the yellow foundation (iyanden darksun), but a second layer of it will help.

But my plan was to do the ground layers first and then clean it up afterwards.


Sons of Sek @ 2012/04/10 13:23:09


Post by: Viktor von Domm


yeah....when i paint it´s mostly cleanups of touchups anyway^^


Sons of Sek @ 2012/04/10 13:26:39


Post by: Gerner


I just hate the whole colouring part, it takes so much time and it doesn't looks good.


Sons of Sek @ 2012/04/10 13:35:52


Post by: Viktor von Domm


well...the building and modeling sure is my main bit on the whole hobby take too...but the mini lives after the paintjob...you only have an empty husk before painting...and i have way to much of these lying around in cupboards and deskdrawers and boxes...


Sons of Sek @ 2012/04/19 18:06:23


Post by: Gerner


So true Vik!
I don't build new ones because I know would never get them painted.

Okay, I'm really low on mojo now but I managed to paint up the second layer of yellow so now it's better.

Any suggestions on how to do the black armour?

I'm thinking if I should just drybrush them boltgun metal over the black or there is some better suggestions?


Sons of Sek @ 2012/04/19 19:08:55


Post by: neil101


Hey gerner , nice progress on the sos , i don't think i have actually painted yellow before .. so i will be taking tips, perkustin has been painting up a nice yellow , as are the wonderful chem dogs somewhere on this thread.


Sons of Sek @ 2012/04/19 21:38:54


Post by: Gerner


Thank you Neil.
I don't know if I can give you any tips, as I am in the learning process, but ask away if anything comes to mind.
Took a look on perkustin, and it was a good one. They have a red/orange hint, which these won't get.

And here is a picture to prove that I have done something today.


First layer of flesh is done and the main colour of yellow is also done.
Next up is painting all the leather and the shiny metal.


Sons of Sek @ 2012/04/19 21:59:23


Post by: Viktor von Domm


eveing neil!^^

hey gerner

well i think drybrushing just the edges of the armor would be enough... no full steel clad armor for them...that would be too posh in my book...

second layer done...wanna take a look!^^

and some colors have it in them to really demotivate us... yelow is among those... too many layers needed for a crisp look...that is a bugger...


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oh... ninjaed by the thread owner^^

the yellow now looks way warmer!

and i am still saying...clean job there mate!


Sons of Sek @ 2012/04/21 18:44:41


Post by: Gerner


Thanks Vik.

I was thinking that highlighting would be the best after a quick internet search.
Do you think adeptus battlegrey will do the trick?

And I got the first layer of brown added.


Suggestions on what colour the priests hair should be and ideas on how to paint the non-armour metal parts are very welcome.

You will also notice that I changed the models a bit.


Sons of Sek @ 2012/04/21 20:04:48


Post by: Viktor von Domm


ok...you said you added the first layer of brown... i think we need to see a daylight pic.... the flash has killed all details...

as for the highlights with grey...yep that will work...

as for the priests haor... i´d just add some grey too as a means to accentuate it a bit but keep it basically black... as this mini has a lot less black and thus could help to tie him in with the rest of the men...


Sons of Sek @ 2012/04/21 22:41:27


Post by: Gerner


Some good points you have there Vik!

I have sculpted a hand symbol on his back of his vest, think I will paint it black as well.


Sons of Sek @ 2012/04/21 22:49:20


Post by: Viktor von Domm


welll that symbol is a rather secretive object as you seem to have not want to share it with us but yep...i think doing that one in black will be quite fitting! and the non moving marts of the eviscerator (probably spelled wrong) should be black too?


Sons of Sek @ 2012/04/21 22:58:04


Post by: neil101


Hey Vik ;-)

Yellow is looking wicked Gerner, is it the new yellow that goes over black ?

And I agree with Vik , the beard would look best black , with highlights, imo. although that might change as you add more highlighting to the models.


Sons of Sek @ 2012/04/21 23:03:59


Post by: Viktor von Domm


well i had no other clue to the haircolor as fluff and color of minis don´t really determin much the color of the hair otherwise...

at neil:


Sons of Sek @ 2012/04/22 11:12:49


Post by: Gerner


@Vik: Not because it's secretive, but because it sucks.

But here is the picture of the hand and khorne symbol I sculpted. They are a bit hard to see since they haven't been painted yet.


Think I will make his hair charadon granite, as well as the eviscerator (that you spelled right).

@Neil: Nope, it's good old Iyanden Darksun, two layers and this is the result.
Dark grey/black it is then.


Sons of Sek @ 2012/04/22 11:39:04


Post by: Viktor von Domm


hand symbol reminds me a bit of saruman´s hand but i think that is a good connection^^

after washes and more layers and so on the whole mini will look completley different anyways...


Sons of Sek @ 2012/04/28 14:10:54


Post by: Gerner


Thanks Vik.

So a tiny update.

I have re-painted some of the black parts on all of them, and now I have also painted metal on half of them.

(They look a lot better in person.)

Remember they are not finish yet.

I feel like I need a complementary colour for the weapons and tubes, but I'm somewhat blank what colour I should choice..
Any ideas?


Automatically Appended Next Post:
So painted metal and black on the four left:


Now I need to paint a few spots of red and grey, and tidy some areas up, and then washes will come.


Sons of Sek @ 2012/04/29 21:39:37


Post by: Viktor von Domm


if you need a complimentary color...i´d suggest going red... for weapons that is always a good choice...blue and green would be too far away from the scheme and you shouldn´t go for yellow on these too... other colors i exclude without even mentioning them^^

what else will you add to the metal parts?


Sons of Sek @ 2012/04/30 19:44:35


Post by: dsteingass


You want a very dark black-grey for highlights on black armor. I 'm not sure about GW's new line, but Flames of War makes a Dark Rubber color that fits perfectly, also Vallejo makes several shades of black-grey. Alternatively, you can always mix your own. Either way though, one highlight is never enough, you should always use several.


Sons of Sek @ 2012/05/02 17:58:36


Post by: Gerner


@Vik: I will try to get some red in there as well.

dsteingass wrote:Either way though, one highlight is never enough, you should always use several.

Damn it! I think I will try with some adeptus battlegrey and codex grey.

A crises have hit me! I traded Zaamel for several of the chaos decals so I could get some khorne symbols.
BUT, the khorne symbols are black, like their armour.
Now I am quite unsure what to do about it.
Maybe paint the decals red after they have been applied or paint the edges in a dark grey?

A good thing is that I have noticed that I have a lot more brush control than when I started, and that I don't have to strain my self as much to paint the "hard" spots.


Sons of Sek @ 2012/05/02 22:13:55


Post by: Viktor von Domm


well there is always the option to make your own decals...i think there is an extensive libary at B&C in their download pages... you will find there under garantee the stuff you need...


Sons of Sek @ 2012/05/05 21:00:56


Post by: Gerner


Making my own decals? That sounds difficult.

Added some red and a layer of Ogryn flesh. I will give them some more washing and then highlights.
The wash doesn't show too well on these pictures, which makes me feel like giving up on them.




I soon want to be done with these, they are starting to get annoying..


Sons of Sek @ 2012/05/05 21:58:59


Post by: Viktor von Domm


oh.... if they start to annoy you...then i suggest you do something inbetween... i dunno if finishing them too quickly would do them justice...

when i see the chest armor of your powerfist wielding sarge i say you have created a nice theme... you shouldn´t go cheap on the timescale now... as for the washes... well some washes i have found out are pretty hard to get good results... have you ever tried inks? i even have a yellow ink...maybe that could help you? i dunno... if that could help you i could give you a spare one i have...


Sons of Sek @ 2012/05/05 23:41:11


Post by: swampyturtle


Gerner wrote:Making my own decals? That sounds difficult.

Added some red and a layer of Ogryn flesh. I will give them some more washing and then highlights.
The wash doesn't show too well on these pictures, which makes me feel like giving up on them.




I soon want to be done with these, they are starting to get annoying..


those look amazing, Im really liking what im seeing. Very Sons of Sek ish


Sons of Sek @ 2012/05/06 14:35:16


Post by: Gerner


@Vik: Very true, but I think it's everything that annoys me currently. You might be right, I think I will give them some more love today.
Nope, what ink brand have you using? I have several of the washes and I'm pretty happy with them, but they are sometimes creating paint lumps.

@Swampyturtle: Thanks, I'm glad you like them.


Sons of Sek @ 2012/05/06 21:16:04


Post by: Viktor von Domm


it is a GW ink... yellow ink from citadel... er... i am unable to find a pic in the net...


Sons of Sek @ 2012/05/08 21:55:20


Post by: Gerner


Must be old, haven't seen GW inks ever.


A bit more done today. Chipping, new wash and more love on the bases.



I guess I am somewhat slow, but my life is a tad difficult at the time.

When I am done I will take some pictures in sunlight.


Sons of Sek @ 2012/05/08 21:57:49


Post by: dsteingass


GW Inks are the shizzit!..I hoarded a bunch of them


Sons of Sek @ 2012/05/08 22:08:05


Post by: Viktor von Domm


well...when ever i can get a hold of one then i grab on it for the hell of it^^

as for the new update gerner... everything looks good... one minor issue i have tho... the buttstocks of the lasguns... you did them in red... that looks fishy for me...well iot is only on the priest but still i think that red there is kinda weird?


Sons of Sek @ 2012/05/09 08:06:39


Post by: Gerner


That is not a lasgun, but a shotgun.
Could be true. I didn't want it to be simple metal all the way, and didn't feel like a wooden stock would be appropriate.


Sons of Sek @ 2012/05/09 21:42:45


Post by: Gerner


Something else I have begun working on, not Sons of Sek related:


Sons of Sek @ 2012/05/09 21:55:11


Post by: Viktor von Domm


well actually taken into account your paintscheme i would have thought you could have used black there... but i keep my gob shut on that one now


Sons of Sek @ 2012/05/19 14:37:54


Post by: Gerner


So, some lack of update..
I was visiting AWOL and we got a few things done, he learned me how to do Decals and now I can do that, look for yourself.


Sorry for the image quality, but you have to get use to it. My ex-gf is moving out and taking her camera with her. :(


Sons of Sek @ 2012/05/19 19:53:22


Post by: Viktor von Domm


ouch... that sounds like grave news???...


the decals tho look very good...


Sons of Sek @ 2012/05/27 11:20:21


Post by: Gerner


Not so bad, the worst thing is sharing the dog.

Thanks, I feel like it was a success as well.

Looks like crap atm, but it will hopeful get better. (The camera doesn't help either).




Sons of Sek @ 2012/05/28 22:24:07


Post by: Viktor von Domm


actually we can never be unthankful for unblurry /focused pics...could have a bit morre light on it but other than that it looks quite good... specially i see now that lighter brown rim on the coat... looks very good!


Sons of Sek @ 2012/05/29 14:43:37


Post by: Gerner


Thanks mate!

Suggestion to what colour the base rim should be?


Automatically Appended Next Post:
I would like something to contrast the darkness of him (and the other miniatures).

Here are a few pictures of him, he is almost done.





Sons of Sek @ 2012/05/29 19:52:17


Post by: Viktor von Domm


personally i am not a big fan of not black rimmed bases... they serve for me as a kind of picture frame... so drawing the attention away from the model and on to the rim is a major bad decision in my view...

BUT


if you want a bit of a eyecatcher on the rim...then i´d suggest you do a nametag... a plate of some sort ...this would be a reasonable way to get a diffrent lick of paint on that area...

and if that mini is finsihed...well he is a bit on the dark side but so what... he is still looking very cool...


Sons of Sek @ 2012/05/31 17:07:20


Post by: Gerner


@Vik. Yea I think I will keep the frame black, or another very dark colour.
He is missing some highlight, but thanks.

So I'm going to order two chimeras and a cadian battle force to increase my Sons of Sek army.

I was planning on buying a yellow spray can to help the process of painting them faster.
Should I forget that and just stick with painting brush?

I was thinking on using either Montana Sugar Melon or Montana Flash Yellow.
or
Not sure which colour would be best?
I'm using Iyanden Darksun now..

Else I will try to finish some of my work in this blog as soon as I have finished the commissar.


Sons of Sek @ 2012/05/31 18:56:48


Post by: Viktor von Domm


well i think a yellow primer would make your life way more easy! so i can only say go for it! but which one... that is up to you...


Sons of Sek @ 2012/06/02 16:09:13


Post by: Gerner


I present to you, Throne Acolyte Cortez Baptista.



Sons of Sek @ 2012/06/02 16:11:44


Post by: Viktor von Domm


the added highlights and the glowy eyepeice brings that needed lightness to the model...good job!


Sons of Sek @ 2012/06/05 12:01:40


Post by: Gerner


Thanks Vik. Your continues replies warm my heart.

Okay, I'm going to make a "big" order from wayland games. Going to buy a Cadian Battle Force, two Chimeras, a Montana Spray and the Utility Paint set from Vallejo (FoW).

Is there anything else you think I should get now to my Sons of Sek force now?
I really want to get all the things I need now.


Sons of Sek @ 2012/06/05 21:22:33


Post by: Viktor von Domm


my pleasure to comment here

and still i have no real suggestions for your order...but i think you are on the right track with this order...


Sons of Sek @ 2012/06/22 16:28:48


Post by: Gerner


And the big order arrived!


I should be able to get something done, but I'm also leaving for vacation. I will try to work on some of the stuff on the vacation, but I fear I wont get much done before August.


Sons of Sek @ 2012/06/22 20:47:48


Post by: Viktor von Domm


*envious scowl....*


Sons of Sek @ 2012/06/23 15:24:30


Post by: Gerner


Then you will like this Viktor, just ordered the collectors edition.


Sons of Sek @ 2012/06/23 21:24:45


Post by: Viktor von Domm


ouch... i read the email just the other minute... if i scowl even harder my chin will fall off^^


Sons of Sek @ 2012/06/25 11:13:39


Post by: Gerner


Current work:


Sons of Sek @ 2012/06/25 13:44:17


Post by: dsteingass


I really hope the Autocannon is more viable on a chimera in the new edition, just because I'm tired of the multilaser look


Sons of Sek @ 2012/06/25 13:53:50


Post by: Gerner


5-points for an autocannon is simply too good to pass.
But there went a lot of rumors about that the forgeworld rules would be accepted in everything.I'm depending on that.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Added a few more details before priming.

The primer dried, then I drybrushed some Boltgun Metal then Dryad Bark and last Mournfang brown.

Here are two wips (the colours are off):



Tomorrow I will give it a varnish seal, then some hairspray before painting it yellow.
Will be interesting to see how that goes.


Sons of Sek @ 2012/06/26 21:40:49


Post by: Gerner


So I did the most sensible thing to do.. Tried the technique out on a spare piece, and I'm glad I did!

First I primed it black, then the purity seal followed, then the hairspray and lastly the yellow paint. The yellow paint was a bitch to get right, and I don't know if that kind of sealed the hairspray because I used too much.

Never the less I couldn't get the yellow paint of with water and brush, eraser or nails. Only my scalpel made scratches in the paint.

This luckily gave me a chance to test how my brown soap works for removing paint. It is soaking as we speak.

Unfortunately it means that I have to put the chimera on break while I wait for the piece to get clean and let me do another try.
Any suggestions on what could have gone wrong is appreciated.

In the meantime I will try to start modelling five Sons of Sek for half a Veteran Squad.


Sons of Sek @ 2012/06/26 21:46:32


Post by: Viktor von Domm


what scheme have you planned for that vehicle? was the brownish color supposed to be rust? cause it looks like that...and i like that... but the yellow part sounds frustrating... i bet that yellow will prove here to be very timeconsuming... have you tried out the new paints? white now works for me like a charm... maybe the yellow would be now better two?


Sons of Sek @ 2012/06/26 22:38:48


Post by: Gerner


I was aiming to do the hairspray technique where you essential first paint your miniature in rust/metal (whatever base colour) then give it a varnish and then some hairspray. After that you give it a layer of whatever colour you want the vehicle to be. Water should then dissolve the hairspray and make it look like chipping and a rough amount of use have been done on the vehicle.

The idea was for the vehicles to be a dirty dark yellow with lots of tear and wear.


Sons of Sek @ 2012/06/27 00:55:24


Post by: Viktor von Domm


hmmm.... i thought as much as that... but aren´t you making one minor mistake here? for this i expected to have a fully basecoat of the brownish coat... well i might be mistaken here... the one you atm are showing would be a shortcut to later weathering stuff of course... hmmm....


Sons of Sek @ 2012/06/27 10:33:33


Post by: Gerner




She explains it better than I can do it here.
The only really thing that matters is that the under laying colour should be darker than the new colour.


Sons of Sek @ 2012/06/27 22:26:53


Post by: Viktor von Domm


ah... the famous fingernails of girlpainting^^...

and i now that methode... one day i will try that too...

and aye to the latter^^


Sons of Sek @ 2012/08/03 12:10:32


Post by: Gerner


So summer vacation is over and I'm back into the hobby with more mojo than ever before, let us hope it keeps up.

Apparently I convinced two of my new friends to start painting and playing with me (they picked up Dark Eldar and Tyranids). It is a major boost to sit together with a friend or two and paint.

Here are some WIPS of my chimera and my first veteran squad:









Hope you like it, and as always comments and criticism is welcomed.


Sons of Sek @ 2012/08/03 12:42:53


Post by: dsteingass


Badass man! That yellow is EXACTLY what I imagined when reading Dan describe their colors!!


Sons of Sek @ 2012/08/03 20:38:00


Post by: Viktor von Domm


took me a sec to realize that the men are not orks... the sculpted green hands over their mouths had me confused there ^^

the tank already looks very cool... will you add a wash soon? i bet that would make it pop really good and then add some details and you are set!


Sons of Sek @ 2012/08/06 11:31:44


Post by: Gerner


@Dsteingass: Thanks! Do you mean the current yellow on the tank or the yellow on the troops?

@Vik: Hehe, no. They are quite bulky but not orks. Thanks I'm quite glad with it my self as well. Yup, I need to get the last pieces of salt of, paint the non-yellow parts and then a good wash will follow, don't worry.


Sons of Sek @ 2012/08/06 14:08:24


Post by: dsteingass


Both, the troops and the tanks.


Sons of Sek @ 2012/08/11 13:23:06


Post by: generalbenjamin89


I just found this post because it was on Dakka Dakka's front page, and I have to say that your work is great! I read through the entire thread from the beginning, haha, and I have to say that I love seeing things brought to life from the Black Library novels. (Especially Gaunt's Ghosts).

Your commissar WIP looks fantastic. Seeing the stuff you've done really makes me want to learn how to sculpt with greenstuff.


Sons of Sek @ 2012/08/11 13:37:36


Post by: SpicyBadger


Great looking stuff I like the use of csm bitz might have to steal that idea ha


Sons of Sek @ 2012/10/27 13:53:23


Post by: Gerner


@Generalbenjamin89: gak I was on the frontpage? And thanks a lot for the kind words, this is my starter/practise army so I hope this is just the beginning.

Thanks, I'm feeling fairly new with greenstuff my self and every time I use it, it's a challenge. Just go out and buy some, and read some threads about it.

@SpicyBadger: Thanks. Yea, the csm and woc have great bits.

So I got some more paint and tracks on my chimera.

First images:
















Okay, so this is still my first tank, so I'm hoping for some help and critique.

I need to finish the viewing ports, do something to the metal and give some more wash on the sides so it matches better with the top and bottom.
Then I was thinking drybrushing in grey tones to give it a feel of being driven through ruins, but don't know if there are better (still cheap) ways?

Should the yellow be even more dark to fit with the troops or is it fine?

Other suggestions, ideas, critique and comments are well received.


Sons of Sek @ 2012/10/27 14:09:21


Post by: Commander Cain


Looks fantastic! I don't think the yellow needs to be darkened but a bit of dusting over the bottom part of the tracks should look good. I also found that some streaks of black/brown ink make great oil streaks if put in the crevasses of a couple of rivets..

Really like the converted hull as well, much better than the standard design!


Sons of Sek @ 2012/10/27 23:53:51


Post by: Viktor von Domm


nicely chipped yellow tank... nuff said


Sons of Sek @ 2012/10/28 00:09:46


Post by: swampyturtle


Very nice work on your SoS

I like all the effort thats gone into this


Sons of Sek @ 2012/11/21 23:26:11


Post by: Gerner


(I'm tired so my English is very weak, I apologize in advance.)

@Commander Cain: Thank you. I tried to add that, but unfortunately I don't have any ink.

@Vik: Thanks, as always.

@Swampyturtle: Thanks, but I can tell you this. Not enough effort is going into this. If I had any self-discipline I would have been done now. :(

So first off; I'm changing the name of the Blog to Sons of Sek instead of Shadows of Heresy, as I will use Shadows of Heresy name in the future.

I finished the tank a while ago, but I haven't got taken any pictures before five minutes ago. The first veteran squad is in the process of being painted but due to a total renovation of the kitchen and bathroom plus me being a lazy ass it's going slow.
Some one should send me tons of mojo, so I stop wasting time.

Well, pictures:














The finish chimera:










First time with my roommates camera so not all of them came out good.

If anyone have suggestions on how to increasing my mojo, feel free to comment.


I will leave you with this this cool battle report.
(The battle report is not mine.)


Sons of Sek @ 2012/11/22 20:05:12


Post by: Viktor von Domm


chimera is looking good...tho i have to say... not finished yet... the khorne icone is too wonky... needs fixing... and i think the letters of the work sek should look more ragged and thicker if you ask me...and lots of details like scrolls and stuff are not done yet... tho the rusty and peeled off paint is really looking good!

by the way... assuming this is your kitchen floor... is that a slice of ancient pizza on your floor in the background?


Sons of Sek @ 2012/11/22 21:19:31


Post by: Gerner


Knew I could count on you Vik!

Wonky? Can you explain that to me. I would like to fix it if I can.
I'm quite satisfied with the SEK writing, so I won't do much about that. Maybe the camera that is messing it up.

I don't really have anymore scrolls and stuff..

It is my kitchen floor, and I don't know if you are talking about the yellow block or the thin brown paper.


Sons of Sek @ 2012/11/22 21:31:49


Post by: Viktor von Domm


yes....was talking about the yellow rock... looks a bit like a long neglected piece of pizza to me

and well... i would have liked a bit of ragged looking writing ...you know... like they used a sharp edge to actually scratch the letters "SEK" into the tanks hide...if i make myself clear here?

and on the one side of the chimera you have a skull and a scroll/banner thingy... you´ve painted the skull but ignored the scroll/name tag there...

and as for the icon... it´s directly on the right side... on the hatch... is it inteded to me lopsided? that was what i was referring to...

i know i am a nitpicker you can count on that!


Sons of Sek @ 2012/11/23 09:42:47


Post by: Gerner


Yea, it's a piece of cement I found outside that has the same colour as the Seks!

Arhh! You know what? I will actual scratch it into the next one I do.

Arhh, those! Well I will try to write Anakwanar on them then..

The khorne symbol on the hatch on the right side of the tank.. Do you think it's look stupid because it's not vertical?
I just smacked it on, like I thought any chaos worshipper would do..


Sons of Sek @ 2012/11/23 21:05:41


Post by: Viktor von Domm


then i would weather the icon a tad... thus it looks more lived with... if you understand my line of thought...

and yes.... write that on the scrolls... dunno what it means... but sounds right and meaningful...in a generell unmeaning way


Sons of Sek @ 2012/11/24 00:01:12


Post by: Veteran Sergeant


I love your Tactiscouts. They need camo paint on their faces too, lol.

First thing I thought was "Look at all that shiny skin showing".

Really cool project you have going on here though.


Sons of Sek @ 2013/03/26 20:42:19


Post by: Gerner


Thanks for the kind words VS.

So after a heavy loss (twice) against Unwanteds Imperial Fists I decided to take some pictures of the soon painted additions to my Sons of Sek.

Here are the pictures, sorry for the quality.

Goons:


Sniper & Sergeant:


Mortar:



New Company Comander:



Sentinel (still wip):





I need to do the highlights and finishing touches on the Plasma Squad, and then they will come up here as well.

Thanks for looking/reading.


Sons of Sek @ 2013/03/27 01:14:52


Post by: Commander Cain


Brilliant posing on the sentinel and I never noticed the lasguns converted from shotguns but they are genius!


Sons of Sek @ 2013/03/28 13:48:33


Post by: Gerner


Thanks for the kind words Commander Cain, it takes for ever with this army since almost everything is a conversion.


Sons of Sek @ 2013/04/12 09:47:09


Post by: Gerner


So I got my lascannon/plasma guns squad finished, took me some time as well..

The sergeant:


The plasma:


The lasguns:


And the lascannon:



Any last things I am missing or could improve on?
Hope you like it.
Thanks for reading and looking.


Sons of Sek @ 2013/04/19 16:27:37


Post by: Gerner


Small update, I finished the renewed Company Commander to be a bit more grim. Maybe not in total line with the Sons of Sek, but I feel he looks suitably enough.


Sorry for the dark photoes, the weather is bad.

Tried to edit the photo in photobucket.. It did not go well...


And a wip of the top of the sentinel.


Hope you like it.
Thanks for reading and/or looking.


Sons of Sek @ 2013/05/01 12:00:24


Post by: Gerner


Here is a wip of what I'm working on:


Not so satisfied with the hand over the mouth. Still needs more greenstuff and plastic-card.

Thanks for looking!