Threads like "Is army painter really fair?" or "Is dipping cheating?" crawl under my skin, as it undermines the truth of talent being involved. A person with a magic pencil that can draw whatever they imagine has to first imagine what they want to draw, and are limited by imagination. A person with a can of Minwax polyshade suffers the same problem. So I'm going "All natural" on a Nurgle themed Genestealer. "Purist" to couteract the "Puerile" claims that methods such as dipping are cheating. That by using minwax, you're devaluing the model industry with your childish scrawling of paint followed by a dunk.
My stance? "Eff that."

Get ready.

I mean it, people, brace for impact. Catheterize yourselves.

I made my own brush, primer coat, and dip. I'm sure I'll talk about it more in the posts to follow, but let me walk you through the basics.

The brush: I whittled a small stick free of its bark, and dragged a razor across it to smooth it. I then used tree sap to bind a clump of my own hair into a bundle. It took about a day to fully dry out in the sun. Then split the tip of the twig, and broke out half of the split to form a crude socket for this clump of hair. More tree sap, followed by half of the drying time. When the sap was almost dry I mashed small rocks and dirt into it, and let these dry to form more of a wall around the hair to keep it in place.


The primer coat: I went online to find natural paint, and this took some doing. I found a recipe for face paint that included equal parts of corn starch and flour, mixed with a little water, and some glycerine. Wtf was that last one? Oh, its for binding purposes, so once it dries it wont cake and dust off. Well I don't have any fancy glycerine. I used baby fluid. Don't you judge me, don't you dare judge me. I see your gallery, and it is full of acrylic paints, cheater. Mixed it with my finger, because I'm freaky like that.


It works surprisingly well.


The first coat of color: I froze blueberries so that I could peel the skin off easier once they had thawed a bit. But then it hit me. No, I'm not going to crush the paint on with my fingers, as I had originally intended. I'm going to make a dip. So I crushed about 2 cups of blueberries into a paste. Swirled my model around in it.




Better results than expected from this next step. There is this evergreen tree outside (unsure of the type of tree) that has these weird globular pine ball things.
So in search of colors, I split it open. Huge score.
There is this dark, gooey resin inside. It looks dark brown, but when smeared, it turns yellow and green. YES. I smeared some over the genestealer with the brush.
Did the mottling trick with the berries really easily.



I repainted the claws and fingertips with the white paste, and took the end of the brush (a stick) and dabbed in the teeth to the best of my ability.
The brush is now almost completely ruined.
I also touched over some places with a blueberry skin, darkening the purples and blending them a little into the yellowy green of the main body. Nice and bruised, necrotic tones from this. Very evocative of a genestealer that has just banged his limbs against power armor over and over, bruising them all to hell.


Now comes the painful bit. I took a razor and sliced down the little green thumbtack that comes in tubes of crazy glue to open the tube. Whittled down the outside diameter until it could fit into the barrel of my air pistol (you can see it in one of the pictures, sitting on the chair). I pumped the gun once (minimal velocity is the name of the game here, also not trying to give myself an embolism) and fired it into the meat of my right thigh. I'll spare you the pictures on that. Little pinprick of the house red wells up, and I dip the stick into it and smear it onto the genestealer. I washed the stick beforehand, and had sterilized the pin with a lighter.


Description pretty much finished except for the base. For a glue, I took long grain basmati rice and soaked it for about an hour, then boiled the crap out of it until the water was mostly gone. Hooray for primitive glue. Sprinkle some dirt heavy with decaying pine needlles, and its finished. One all natural Nurgle themed Genestealer.



Now, for all you self righteous painters who have never dipped a model, who think army painter is cheating, who think any kind of corner cutting devalues your hobby, I say to you:
I approve of these methods and others whole heartedly, if they result in any saved time or generate visually stimulating results on a model.
Argue if you'd like, but I'll bet you used a store bought brush. Cheater. And paint? Ha! Who uses paint, anyways?
Man up and do it the real way instead of cutting corners, ye naysayers! You can't touch this moral high ground!
Everyone else, please continue doing what you do.

Can Doomthumbs start a new craze of Organic Painting? I'm thinking probably not, but 10 out of 10 for effort

I think I love you.

ROFL!
if you really used blue berries and...whatever those other things were. That turned out rather well.

This thread greatly disturbs me... I WANT MORE!

This is bloody amazing and very well thought through! Painting with Blueberries and something off a Pine Tree. You may start a natural Wargaming painting revolution Once again really good work. I might try this my self.

Upon further inspection, I don't think blood is a safe thing to paint with...

I like it all apart from using real blood.

What dont you like about blood?
You need blood to live!

Problem with blood is that it'll quickly lose its bright red and eventually turn very dark. Not good for painting

Still, organic painting? Hmm never thought of that. Very interesting at least!

Do I see....Nurgle marines

I forsee mold in your future

I just hope he doesn't need to use a dark brown any time soon.

I love this.

CHEATER!!!! You used a plastic model. Real men would carve the genestealer out of wood, or better yet, surgically alter some tropical(large) insects for a more realistic Tyranid army! You are a completely unethical lazy sloth! Man up, and do things properly!

Edit: Spelling

Thaanos wrote:CHEATER!!!! You used a plastic model. Real men would carve the genestealer out of wood, or better yet, surgically alter some tropical(large) insects for a more realistic Tyrinid army! You are a completely unethical lazy sloth! Man up, and do things properly!

Edit: Spelling

I understand this was an attempt at comedy, I really do. It's Tyranid though, with an "A". Consequently, you get an "F".

Also, since the people formerly occupying the "moral high ground" when it came to painting minis themselves used GW (or other) plastic minis, I feel no shame.

Hands up anyone who thought I would ever occupy moral high ground?

Doomthumbs wrote:
I understand this was an attempt at comedy, I really do. It's Tyranid though, with an "A". Consequently, you get an "F".

Sad Face! My spelling failed again........

Looks really good doomthumbs , I take it the....um paint substance doesn't rub off the mini.

The thought of you occupying the moral high ground is scary to begin with but then I realise that none of the stuff you have even spoken about of showed on Dakka has ever been particularly Immoral... It's been rude, crude, Dirty but sex and morality arn't soooo interconnected in my head as to make you particularly immoral in my head.

In fact I have found people with dirty sick and twisted sences of humour are (in my experience and opinion) the more well adjusted and moral people in society.

Hell yeah! That'll show those lazy peons who use store-bought paint and brushes. I mean, way to take shortcuts, guys. This is how you do it.

Berries, Cornstarch....baby fluids? Doomthumbs you are without a doubt the most flying rodent gak Insane hobbyist I have ever seen. I salute you Sir. But in all honesty that turned out rather nice looking, it really has a organic look to it. I would suggest sealing it ASAP to prevent rotting or any other horrid results that may come from your mix.

Doomthumbs wrote:
Unadulterated Awesome

You sir are Organic awesome. Give yourself Rainforest Alliance certification immediately.

Hey, amaizng post. Really man, you got my first ever "exalt" on dakka, and trully deserve it...

If real man have bals, you sir, have 3 of them...

That just happened..

Doomthumbs wrote: Epic Post

I DEMAND THIS BE MADE INTO AN ARTICLE SO FUTURE GENERATIONS CAN SEE IT!

First thread I have seen worthy of that exalt button. Bravo!

Frikin legend

I completely agree that people who call dipping cheating are, just simply, wrong. One cannot cheat in painting miniatures, as it is not a game.

I am the president of the "Paint-straight-out-of the-pot" club. I buy my paint and brushes from Wal-Mart, and my primer. (The black primer that's $1 a can). I prime, base coat, slather on the wash (Yes, I actually spring for the citadel washes, they're awesome!) and then eventually do some drybrushing of highlights, and maybe, just maybe if I really feel like it, I will shoot a coat of clear varnish. If that is cheating, so be it. I've got a couple hundred guys to paint and games to play, I don't have time for any shenanigans.

I wish I was skilled enough to dip. If it's more complex than "Put paint on brush. Put brush on model. repeat", that I don't have the skills. XD

Dipping hardly requires much skill.

Can you paint? y/n?

Y - Paint the base clothing, weapon, skin.
next - dip it in an ink / varnish whatever it is - this is to bring out the detail / shade it etc I believe that's all there is to it..
Next - brybrush / highlight if you can be bothered.

N - well, you're only gonna have an undercoated army done with a spray can or unpainted plastic anyway.

That's what dipping is?

I did that with wood stain to make my Necrons look Rusted back in 4th.

One of the Citidel painting books I borrowed made it sound alot harder than that.

You know, I read the title and thought- ok where's this going?Then I saw those boggle eyes on the avatar and smiled before I even saw the rest. I was not disappointed. Thank you again for an entertaining read!

I live to serve. Glad you enjoyed. Check out my sig. There's 36 pages of this kind of material.

Texas Instrument wrote:I live to serve. Glad you enjoyed. Check out my sig. There's 36 pages of this kind of material.

You don't have a link in your sig...

Good job Doomthumbs

Quick painted Nids full of Vitamin C goodness.
I am going to check in the "Which Snacks Do You Prefer While Gaming?" thread to see if you have answered, "Wholemeal Bitesize Nids".

Awesome. Might I suggest for future blood drawing either a cannula and vacutainer or perhaps a lancet used for diabetic fingerprick testing? (not as painful as it sounds as you do it on the side of the finger - not the pad!)

In addition I find the addition of a little 0.5 Molar ethylenediaminetetraacetic acid (EDTA) helps keep the blood bloodier for longer. It would probably still attract flies though.

Don't leave juicy fruit models in direct light too long btw
The colours are not likely to be very permanent.

Alfndrate wrote:

Texas Instrument wrote:I live to serve. Glad you enjoyed. Check out my sig. There's 36 pages of this kind of material.

You don't have a link in your sig...

Lol. He just left my house. Check his sig, not mine.
The model looks great in person but I'm not gonna touch it.

Organic painting! Awesome! Does the color stay on or does it brush off?

Texas Instrument wrote:

Alfndrate wrote:

Texas Instrument wrote:I live to serve. Glad you enjoyed. Check out my sig. There's 36 pages of this kind of material.

You don't have a link in your sig...

Lol. He just left my house. Check his sig, not mine.
The model looks great in person but I'm not gonna touch it.

Uhhuh. So why was he posting under your account?

That is awesome!!! but wont it go a bit mouldy after a while? which I suppose could add to the nurglyness

Doomthumbs wrote:I used baby fluid.

I don't even want to know.

Wowzeresevialatinbatsiakem!!! the is purely awesome.

Prepare for total neck PAIN!!

Read from right to left!:

(¡ssoɹƃ sɐʍ ʇɐɥʇ 'ʇɹɐd poolq ǝɥʇ ʇou ʇnq) sıɥʇ ʎɹʇ ʎlqɐqoɹd llıʍ ı ˙ƃuızɐɯɐ ʎlnɹʇ '¡ʇı sǝʌɹǝsǝp ʎlɐʇǝuıɟǝp ǝuo sıɥʇ ʇnq 'spɐǝɹɥʇ ʇlɐɥxǝ ʎlǝɹɐɹ ı ¡ƃuızɐɯɐ sı pɐǝɹɥʇ sıɥʇ

Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:Good job Doomthumbs

Quick painted Nids full of Vitamin C goodness.
I am going to check in the "Which Snacks Do You Prefer While Gaming?" thread to see if you have answered, "Wholemeal Bitesize Nids".

I've actually cast warriors in chocolate. Strength 8 weaponry starts me on a pavlovian reaction now.
It's in my thread, not TIs.


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Breotan wrote:

Doomthumbs wrote:I used baby fluid.

I don't even want to know.

It's everything you fear to be true.

You should try making them as chocolate liqueurs next time!
That would be an interesting way to game.
Man are GW missing a trick here! There's whisky in the Jokaro!
Sod the 9-13 year olds, unless it's the age of the malt in the Terminators!

feth. Yes.

Are you, perchance, an only child?

It's not cheating... you can't cheat on painting.

What about cheat lines on model cars and aircraft?

I was not. My younger siblings have long since grown up.

But what about yourself?

Yeah no not so much. I got a mech engingineering degree and figured "yeah, that's about enough acting like a civilized adult".

Word can't describe how much of a win this thread is. I hope this shuts up the army painter nay sayers, if only for a few weeks.

Yeah
Adulthood, I tried it once and failed miserably.

Hopefully longer. I'm keeping it in my bag o tricks, just waiting, hoping for one of those threads to pop up.

Must admit haven't seen any complaints about dipping.
But I lead a sheltered life.

Warpcrafter nailed it imho.
Not everyone has the time to paint every model of a horde army to Golden Daemon standards.

Doomthumbs, you are the best. There is a lot of snobbery in the GW world, and I love how you make a pure mockery of it. It helps show the line between Game & Hobby and going way overboard.

Doomthumb, you never fails to crack me up , for every single post or thread you make

They should sell this thread at McDonald's because I'm lovin' it.

While I loved the idea Doom, I had my doubts as to the final quality of the paint job. I'm shocked at how well it turned out, all things considered. Question though: in my own (extensive) experience with human blood, it turns brown when it dries. What was your specific experience with it?

Its still red!

Did you grow the blueberries yourself?

If not I call cheater!!

Please please enter it in a painting comp or put it up on cool mini or not such a manly an epic paintjob needs to shared with the world.

Should be an article.

I've heard of people giving Berserkers or Rhinos bloody baptisms when they cut themselves accidentally, but you, sir, are the first I've ever heard of that did it on purpose!

Articles? Really?
I honestly didn't expect such a great response for this.
You guys are awesome.

We're not awesome. You are.

Now go Articleize this!

Pure awesomeness,

This is great. i hope those blueberries are from a farmers stand.. just kidding.

awesome man.

super epic threadness to be found here. i also think that this should be an article. A fething amazing one at that.

I also support this being made into an article, top work. Not many people have the balls to paint like that.

Great job all around.

Dude, you found a use for blueberries.

(they aren't edible from my pov, so this would be their only use).

It's all cheats when you get down to it.
The pros call them "techniques" but know them as cheats and cut corners.

You sir wake up in the morning and you piss excellence!

awesome!

Three pages of people congratulating some guy for colorizing a miniature figurine with jism, fruit juice, and blood....

I hope you're all proud of yourselves.

Altruizine wrote:Three pages of people congratulating some guy for colorizing a miniature figurine with jism, fruit juice, and blood....

I hope you're all proud of yourselves.

... as compared to a thread in which some snobby elitist goes out and claims that their painting method is the only true method, and subsequently goes and dicks around for the sake of ego.

Yeah, way better.

Explain how comparison comes into the picture.

Why can't both threads be immensely stupid wastes of time?

(Spoiler: they both are).

The fact that you find this childish, immature or a waste of time doesn't override the fact that despite the attempts at humor Doombthumbs is making a serious point about dipping being considered "cheating".

Please, unpack his satire for me. How exactly does this comment on people who criticize dipping, etc.?

If his model actually turned out pretty I could see what you claim to, but it didn't. It looks like something an ill toddler blew out onto the daycare floor.

Actually, that's not a bad metaphorical image for summing up this whole enterprise.

By poking fun at the standards and sweeping statements that so plague those threads.

Of course it's not going to look good, that's not the point. His point is that at least dipping models gets results way better than this. So should people needlessly handicap themselves if they paint poorly with one method when dipping offers and alternative which leads to a decent paintjob?

I think the little 'nid looks pretty awesome. It has a very natural look.

Whilst I believe the "is army painter really fair" thread is just childish and immature, I also believe the same of this thread (but not as bad). Is it really ok for you to lower yourself to the standards of other threads that are exetremly childish. The question you have to ask your self is "am I being just as immature". Whilst this thread does prove a good point it is just as childish as the last. This thread does prove a point, but it is the wrong sort of point. It only seeks revenge for dammage done by an immature 14 year old boy.

This is just an opinion so don't get to worked up
Tech Guard

Where are all these threads that supposedly justified this poor attempt at humour?

Here you go mate ! http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/387460.page

I applaud you sir! Truly the Ray Mears of the wargaming world, or who is the American one, Bear Grylls.

I clicked on this thinking it would be a puritan painter, with his ambiguous title. But it seems not.

But the thing is I hate bandwagon wars, and all I see is people bandwagoning to this "Army Painter is unfair" biz. And then somebody pops up this "saying army painter is cheating is childish" biz, and everybody flocks to that.

Wandwagoning and debating are one of the same.

You know what I say, eff that. We should respect those who paint their army in a "puritan" way. We should respect those who just want to get an army looking good. We should respect those who want to paint the hard way for the fun of it, this doom guy is choosing that way to the extreme yes, but the point still stands.

feth me...

thats genius...

i take my hat off to you sir...
if i was wearing one, but i'm not so i'll just take off my wig to you instead sir...

I love this thread so much !

Tech Guard wrote:Here you go mate ! http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/387460.page

I don't see the big waves of hate coming of off that thread.

I see a sad little OP, and a bunch of people referring to "all that hate"....that isn't there.

Why do I get an image of Doomthumbs painting this way up in a log cabin in the mountains long after civilisation has been wiped out by nuclear holocaust?

Blueberries!

Henners91 wrote:Why do I get an image of Doomthumbs painting this way up in a log cabin in the mountains long after civilisation has been wiped out by nuclear holocaust?

I imagine it will be pretty hard to get corn starch and all-purpose flour in post-apocalyptic society. You know, given how they are highly processed products of agricultural staple crops.

So much for the "purist" aspect.

Altruizine wrote:

Henners91 wrote:Why do I get an image of Doomthumbs painting this way up in a log cabin in the mountains long after civilisation has been wiped out by nuclear holocaust?

I imagine it will be pretty hard to get corn starch and all-purpose flour in post-apocalyptic society. You know, given how they are highly processed products of agricultural staple crops.

So much for the "purist" aspect.

See you are "cheating" as a real puritan painter would have the ability to paint an army in a post-apocalyptic desert.

In that situation I would use bone ash.
Perhaps the bones of posters with under 20 post count.
I can't imagine a situation where such a person would be actually invested in this issue.

Unless they had the mostly vestigial sarcasm gland removed at birth...


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acreedon wrote:This is great. i hope those blueberries are from a farmers stand.. just kidding.

awesome man.

I actually picked them myself.
There is a pick your own berries farm about 20 miles from where I live.
The fools never weigh me coming in though.

Doomthumbs wrote:In that situation I would use bone ash.
Perhaps the bones of posters with under 20 post count.
I can't imagine a situation where such a person would be actually invested in this issue.

Unless they had the mostly vestigial sarcasm gland removed at birth...

Tell me who's more invested in the issue -- the guy who fired off a handful of posts about a childish, wrongheaded, attention-seeking thread on the internets, or the guy who jacked off into a tumbler of flour, ostentatiously shot himself in the leg with a homemade needle-pellet, took an exhaustive series of pictures recording the entire process, and then posted them on a messageboard to accumulate the praise of dumbfounded strangers.

Let me know how many posts I need before I'm qualified to shatter your half-baked attempts to satirize a perception that nobody, other than trolls, actually possesses.

I would suspect that this is not your first Dakka membership?

I would say you are more invested than I, since you're taking measures to protect a primary identity whilst blasting your childish vitriol.

Sorry I get praise for painting with pinecones and berries.
I posted this so you might, too!

And your suspicion would be wrong, as I'm sure any moderator will be willing to confirm.

The mature move would be to give up the flailing and defensive ad hominem shots (low post count, secret identity) and actually account for the criticisms that have been made. Don't really see that happening here, though.

Well I'm not going to ask. I'll ask you to move along though.
Only mod I see in here wants me to make this into an article.

Does nobody recognize the tongue-in-cheek nature of everything Doomthumbs does? His is the position of Trickster, who does not take things seriously, and has a high "What the Hell" quotient. He has taken a subject that he saw as silly, and purposefully taken it to it's logical, and imminently silly, extreme, not as a serious example of what 'should' be done, but to draw attention to the unimportance of how a thing is done, as opposed to what is done.

I find it strange that some people would go out of their way to argue here... It's a thread about a plastic creature painted with berry-juice and blood. What exactly is there to argue about?

We SHOULD be arguing about how many women (or men) DOOMTHUMBS will have around his throne of awesome.

I dont believe there is people arguing about this thread: do a favour to the world and find a girlfriend....

C'mon, this is not serious, its a satire: it takes a humoristic aprouch on something, proposing something people would call "absurd", just to point how "absurd" some people views are.

If you are pissed off about this, you are probably a puritan painter, who believe dipping is bad, and is angry after discovering all the bs you deffend... Or you are just a Troll...

This is the problem with the internet, no emotion is expressed. I myself have dipped on many ocasions, it's alright and its a great way to finish an army. The way I see it is that obviously there are people who are hurt by "is the army painter really fair" thread. And rightly so, that thread was created to hurt and offend people. But to relate back to a stupid and childish thread does'nt do anything for this thread. Maybe next time call the thread "painting the 'Ard way". And try not to relate back to a plainly stupid thread. People will know what you mean without saying anything, they will read between the lines.

Once again just an OPINION
Tech Guard

Apparently, there is a lot to argue about. Allow me to clarify!
That I make posts on my friends account has obviously rankled someone out there, I guess because the thought that I have friends in the real world that trust me is abhorrent to some. It's a ridiculous thing to report me for though. My ego is no state secret, and such that I wouldn't want to share credit with another account, even if that account was me. That's just silly.
Happygrunt, throw in an equal mix. That way no one gets upset when I continue monogamy with Lady Doomthumbs, and we both get some eye candy.
I committed some minor sins in my painting process. I used flour and corn starch. I feel like I let you down. Next time I'll try harder and grind the finest dust from calcium rich sedimentary rock. No seriously, I will.

Thanks to everyone offering praise and support. Seriously makes my day every time I read this stuff. Please don't argue on my behalf though. "Haters gonna hate" is really better as "Haters sometimes make valid points".
A policy of actively ignoring negative input is a bad policy.
Sometimes, that negative input allows me to fine tune my output so as to alienate less people, netting me more support in the long run. Though I enjoy praise more ( and this stuff here is certainly lavish!), totally ignoring the negative is a path towards total sociopathy.

Whew. That all said, what should I paint next?
What do you guys use if you use similar techniques?
Suggestions for improvements?




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Tech, well said.
I'll use that as the title of the article, if you don't mind.

Sure mate! Nothing against you or anything, Over all I think that you did prove a good point. Next model maybe a Plague marine

The resin actually has a pungent piney odor.
That would be worth it for lols alone. Piney fresh plague marines.

The queation is, Is it pine cleaner fresh?

Reanimator wrote:You know, I read the title and thought- ok where's this going?Then I saw those boggle eyes on the avatar and smiled before I even saw the rest. I was not disappointed. Thank you again for an entertaining read!

Ditto

I was good up until the blood draw. I really don't care that blood was used but I think there is a more sterile way that it could be done. (Sterile Lancets would be my recommendation). I believe there are some young(er) readers that should be steered the right way.

BTW - anyone else read Fulgrim? Just saying this is just a step away from the remembrencers at the end.

Look at all the haters a-hatin'.

You must be doing something right, DT! I didn't get your other thread, I'll admit, but this one is full of lulz.


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Doomthumbs wrote:Well I'm not going to ask. I'll ask you to move along though.
Only mod I see in here wants me to make this into an article.

Oh snap.

HAHAHAH!!! OMG! you wanna kill me?? I think this is nothing else but pure awesomeness!

Totally awesome and massive props. First thread I've exalted.

Dude, I always look forward to anything posted by you, and this (of course) was no exception.

Yeah, bloods a bit extreme, but YOU ARE EXTREME. Yes, younger readers should probably be sways away from self-inflicted injury, so I'll try to help that:

-------Kids: Hurting yourself like this WILL hurt, and can (and in most cases probably will) cause some amount of infection, causing MORE pain, possible medication, and even (in severe circumstances) a visit my your friendly local EMT. Do not repeat anything that you've witnessed in this thread. I repeat, viewer discretion is advised.------

Anyway...
Haters? Well, try to change the word hater to "constructive criticizers.," and learn from it.

Painting is all about the tools. Dip is no exception, it's just another tool in a painters arsenal. Want to argue about it? I won't bother replying to ya, because my opinion won't change. I see dip the same way I see wash, dip just also adds a wonderfully tough shell to my miniature to prevent damage. Don't like wash? Then don't use them. Don't like miniatures painted with washes and dips? Don't look at my miniatures

I saw in a post a bit higher up (i think page 1 or 2), I'm curious about the mold issue as well... This could make it even more "Nurgle," yet extremely smelly, or just nasty and extremely smelly. I don't think a clear coat (of whatever you might be able to find that's all natural could give) can prevent decomposition.

Ba da ba ba ba.... I'm lovin' it...

Some people even call drybrushing cheating. Sadly there is no cure for stupidity yet ...
Great thread

have you guys ever read or heard the frase [Mod Edit - It isn't funny, and it isn't allowed here on Dakka Dakka.]

I like this stuff, And i think that it's very entertaining too.
I'm not gonna argue. But if you don't like this thread, please just leave it and go on with your lifes.. there's so many other threads out there waiting to be explored!

Doomthumbs, ignore the "altruistic" Fresh Faced New User who happens to be a troll trying to crap all over your work. You've done a phenomenal job with this paint job, even if it is...uh, very original. The model looks amazing, and I can't even begin to believe your creativity brought you soaring to these levels. Block the ignoramus and don't waste your time arguing with him when you could be turning out more masterpieces. Let us argue with trolls for you

P.S. might I suggest finding fake "baby fluid" and blood so you can actually sell the work eventually without providing a full medical history file?

Nah, keep the baby fluid and blood. Then clone Doomthumbs for the future generation.

Has it started to rot and stink yet?

For a bright pink color I would use the berries of the pokeweed plant. They will be in season soon!



It's pretty common throughout the US as long as you are in a temperate zone. But DO NOT eat the berries they are poisonous. However delicious they may look, mmm.

Turmeric root is great for bright yellow but you must find it at the grocery store.

For deep red, use beet juice.

Barberry for yellow any part of the plant will work.

RUST! get some all natural rust and grind it up and use it for bright red orange pigment. And burn some wood to get ash.... pure carbon for a nice deep black. Also rusty nails and vinegar work wonders I am told by the internet.

Dude, cool idea. Now hippies, and vegans can enjoy the hobby guilt free.


(Please note: I am not a hippie or a vegan.)

cricketofdeth wrote:Dude, cool idea. Now hippies, and vegans can enjoy the hobby guilt free.


(Please note: I am not a hippie or a vegan.)

Don't "DIS" hippies and vegans. I may be a leather wearing judas priest fan, but I have to say, they are fun people to be with.

Happygrunt wrote:We SHOULD be arguing about how many women (or men) DOOMTHUMBS will have around his throne of awesome.

I should expect at least 60 or 70 at first. But more will come...

Doomthumbs wrote:Next time I'll try harder and grind the finest dust from calcium rich sedimentary rock.

There is no doubt in my mind that this is exactly what you will do.
Do you think you could spare enough blood and baby fluid to paint a whole army? Because it would probably look pretty sick.

I took a razor and sliced down the little green thumbtack that comes in tubes of crazy glue to open the tube. Whittled down the outside diameter until it could fit into the barrel of my air pistol (you can see it in one of the pictures, sitting on the chair). I pumped the gun once (minimal velocity is the name of the game here, also not trying to give myself an embolism) and fired it into the meat of my right thigh. I'll spare you the pictures on that. Little pinprick of the house red wells up, and I dip the stick into it and smear it onto the genestealer.

Cheater. Obviously you should have broken off a branch, gnawed the end to a point with your teeth, and then jabbed your leg with that.

Very cool article.

Jake

Hmm, if you wanted to move in a similar, albeit slightly more dangerous direction- would you consider painting all models with poisoned weapons (say super-gaunts etc) with pulped deadly nightshade, poison oak, foxglove etc.

Nothing like knowing that your gaunts with toxin sacs really are toxic...

While I 100% approve of this thread, and am a proponent of Dipping (previously locally known as the King of Dip), I think you all that have been castrating yourselves at the foot of Doomthumb's throne in supplication have been had.

Reanimator wrote:Hmm, if you wanted to move in a similar, albeit slightly more dangerous direction- would you consider painting all models with poisoned weapons (say super-gaunts etc) with pulped deadly nightshade, poison oak, foxglove etc.

Nothing like knowing that your gaunts with toxin sacs really are toxic...

"I totally get that cover save! Look, you can draw Line of- Did you just stab me with a gaunt??! Why are you laughing?!? And why is the ceiling pink... The walls are melting..."

Next time, grow all of your own organic plant material. Going outside and just finding it is what lazy no-good losers do. Also, don't use any tacks or metal or anything like that, unless you mined and purified the stuff yourself! Jesus Christ your cutting of corners pisses me off! RAWR.

No way, to be true "natural" you need to gather it from nature. Otherwise, you are just using artificial means, do you want to cut another set of corners?

The Dwarf Wolf wrote:No way, to be true "natural" you need to gather it from nature.

Gathering from nature is for CHUMPS man. That's STEALING and it's the easy way out. Tell me what is easier:

Going outside for 5 minutes and picking up some berries / twigs / whatever.

OR

Having to plant your seeds, adding natural fertilizer (your own poop), watering the buggers every day, chasing away squirrels who want to eat your plants... and then months later taking berries, sticks and other plant parts you grew yourself? The answer is OBVIOUS. Cheaters go out and steal stuff from nature, without putting in any work. Non-cheaters grow everything themselves. Everyone has their own opinions and you are free to disagree with me, but you will be WRONG when you do it. FACT.

Do people really get in arguments over "dipping vs. painting" and such?

Damn, they would all hate me, I just pay other people to paint my stuff...I HATE to paint, love to mod and custom, but hate, hate, hate painting.

Overbear wrote:Do people really get in arguments over "dipping vs. painting" and such?

Why yes, yes they do.

Overbear wrote:
Damn, they would all hate me, I just pay other people to paint my stuff...I HATE to paint, love to mod and custom, but hate, hate, hate painting.

I'm pretty much the same way

Lt. Coldfire wrote:

Overbear wrote:Do people really get in arguments over "dipping vs. painting" and such?

Why yes, yes they do.

Overbear wrote:
Damn, they would all hate me, I just pay other people to paint my stuff...I HATE to paint, love to mod and custom, but hate, hate, hate painting.

I'm pretty much the same way

What is the point in an argument over who paints what way? Thats kind of like winning the special olympics...even if you get the gold, well.. ok you see where I am going there.

As to myself, Painting just feels, tedius, its not fun, I don't get any enjoyment out of it. Its a real drag for me, so I recently traded a laptop, docking station, monitor, and some cash and he is painting 20,000 points of space wolves for me.

Overbear wrote:
What is the point in an argument over who paints what way? Thats kind of like winning the special olympics...even if you get the gold, well.. ok you see where I am going there.

Welcome to the internet.

RandomSauce19 wrote:This is bloody amazing and very well thought through! Painting with Blueberries and something off a Pine Tree. You may start a natural Wargaming painting revolution Once again really good work. I might try this my self.

The only problem is that the model is made from plastic, if he could make the model out of hemp or something then you would have your "green modeling revolution".

I always wondered what those plants are. Pokeweed? Huh. I do know for a fact that the berries set like cement if you crush them and leave all the pulpy bits and seeds in.

That genestealer is born of hippiedom but will go forth and defile in the name of the great despoiler. Irony much.

Alright, this is gonna cause me some grief, but whatever:

DT: Banned...for having friends... what happened? I won't sprawl details, because it's not really any of my business, but the reason doesn't seem legit.

@ Mod, if I'm crossing lines, correct me or ban me. I apologize, but I'm a bit peeved, and super confused. Was a super cool poster, and (imo, again I may be wrong: you are the mod) didn't merit any consequences of such severity.

Sorry guys, and sorry Mod.

Anvildude wrote:I always wondered what those plants are. Pokeweed? Huh. I do know for a fact that the berries set like cement if you crush them and leave all the pulpy bits and seeds in.

Pokeweed yes. It is actually an edible plant, quite delicious if I say so myself, but only the springtime shoots and the red parts and berries are poisonous. And the color would make some beautiful genestealers.

Banned? Did I hear that correctly? Surely not....

Banned? WTF.... seriously Please bring our smut Master back. the internets is devoid or wrong without him.

WE'S BEEN TROLLED?!

Thsi is awesoem good job!

Best.... post.... ever!

*sarcasam on* Guess I'm a cheater cause I use plastic and metal and resin minatures.. and buy my paints... and my brushes... and have my very first can of army painter on it's way to me. Whatever will I do now!? *sarcasam off*

What do you mean banned?

fenrir1997 wrote:DT: Banned...for having friends... what happened? I won't sprawl details, because it's not really any of my business, but the reason doesn't seem legit.

As a rule, we don't discuss disciplinary action taken against a poster with anyone other than that poster. There are privacy issues and, as you say, it's nobody else's business. I will say, though, that we don't suspend people 'for having friends'...

Very awesome thread. I haven't posted in these forums in forever, (well I do in the off topic and video game ones). However this one motivated me enough to post something and to do my first exalt this post.

BTW, can I get banned for accidently posting under another users account?

Lord Scythican wrote:BTW, can I get banned for accidently posting under another users account?

If you like. Let us know when you do it, and we'll take care of it.

On a more serious note, no, just accidentally posting under someone else's account won't get you 'banned'...

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Since this appears to be veering off the actual topic, and the original point has been well and truly made by now, I think we're done here.