Simply put, list what you think are the most cost-effective unit upgrades in 40k.

My vote is on the Nemesis Daemonhammer.
5 points more to turn your normal boring force weapon into a SUPER MEGA FORCE WEAPON HAMMER WITH THUNDER AND IT'S A FORCE WEAPON AND KILLS DAEMONS HNNNNNNNNNNG

I'm going to have go with the runes of warding. Even though they do come for free on Eldrad, I just assume they are part of his cost.

For 15pts, you neuter an armies psychic abilities, thereby denying quite a few armies of their very important sometimes game-winning abilities.

Otherwise I'm going to have to go with the DA ability Defend.

5 Points for Melta Bombs.

Warscythe- 10 pts. No invul. for you!

5 Points for a Guardsman! Greatest weapon in the 'verse!

Not an upgrade but I wanted to say it...

Runes of Warding. Make Jaws, Catalyst, Fortitude, and more suddenly very risky and unreliable. As long as that seer is hiding somewhere on the table. A handful of points to blanket the board in a very powerful psyker defense.

Tau Disruption Pods. 5pts for a cover save for all vehicles at 12+"

Honour Blade. 10pts to make your puny S3 Ethereal S5.

Yeah, who's useless now?

Ork Deffrollas 20 points of feth you AV14 =)

Demolition Veterans. 30 points for a unit full of meltabombs plus a weapon that can kill a Terminator squad in one shot? Yes, please.

Avatar 720 wrote:Honour Blade. 10pts to make your puny S3 Ethereal S5.

Yeah, who's useless now?

The ethereal

I would probably say daemonic possession on a vindicator. You will always move, and you will always shoot. The upgrade-inflicted BS3 doesn't really matter since you're shooting pieplates anyway.

Flickerfields

The KFF for a mek, most useful upgrade ever!

Definatly Catalyst for Tervigons.

15 points to be able to give any unit within 18" FNP, thats hugely beneficial for an army like Nids with low armor save.

acekevin8412 wrote:Tau Disruption Pods. 5pts for a cover save for all vehicles at 12+"

Gotta agree with this.

GreyHamster wrote:Runes of Warding. Make Jaws, Catalyst, Fortitude, and more suddenly very risky and unreliable. As long as that seer is hiding somewhere on the table. A handful of points to blanket the board in a very powerful psyker defense.

Do they still do penal legion for 2pts each?

Faced a guy with shed loads of penaql legion back in the day. Was fun, My SW could not chew threw them fast enough.

I gotta say Daemonic Possession as well. That's 20 points of 2/3 of your glances and 1/3 of your pens can't touch me. This is just too good on Vindicators and Dreadnoughts!

Justus wrote:I gotta say Daemonic Possession as well. That's 20 points of 2/3 of your glances and 1/3 of your pens can't touch me. This is just too good on Vindicators and Dreadnoughts!

I don't know, losing a point in BS kinda makes it less useful.

KilroyKiljoy wrote:

Justus wrote:I gotta say Daemonic Possession as well. That's 20 points of 2/3 of your glances and 1/3 of your pens can't touch me. This is just too good on Vindicators and Dreadnoughts!

I don't know, losing a point in BS kinda makes it less useful.

Also, you can't take it on Dreads.

I’m going to say psybolt ammunition or Sanguinary Priests are probably the most cost effective unit upgrades in 40k. I’m not surprised that both come from a Matt Ward codex.

Blood Angel 17 wrote:Flickerfields

Melta Guns
cheap and allows the guy to kill anything in the game except for the Avatar.
Also arent we not suppose to post point cost of upgrades?

For orks it's the KFF and the deffrolla. And snikrot...man do love snikrot.
For dark eldar it's flickerfields (your telling me that for just ten points my vehicles get INVUL saves yeah these are mandatory) and liquifiers( 50% chance to ignore MEQ saves and melt some beakies )

Mark of the Wulfen and Melta guns.

-1 point for a Grey Hunter.

Yep, I went there.

Grey Hunters are just a steal. Like I have -no- reason why not to run them. And how dirty cheap the weapons are.

Black Templar Assault Squad: 2 points per model for Meltabombs

Banner of Cheese
10 points to turn a squad into much, much more effective unit for a turn.

Oh look, its a Phil Kelly codex -that paragon of balance. Oh wait, 4th ed Eldar flying circus and dark eldar venom spam...

I like 10 points for a multimelta on LRs. Gives a triple anti-armor threat from an already lethal tank.
10s correct yes?

Tau Disruption Pods. 5pts for a cover save for all vehicles at 12+"

Gotta be this

Targeters from the old DH Codex. Pre-measure to your target for 1 point per squad!

Deff rollas are good too. You can turn your 20 boy transport into an infantry shredder for just 20 points!

Demonic possession for Chaos tanks. for 20 points you ignore all crew shaken and stunned results. it works great for the landraider. -1 BS is not bad when you have all twin linked weapons on it. the thing is cheaper than most LR is it feels even more unstoppable then a normal one!

acekevin8412 wrote:Tau Disruption Pods. 5pts for a cover save for all vehicles at 12+"

Clearly, Tau are completely OP.

Not as OP as Necrons.

ı go for psybolt ammunition. a 10 min squad of storm bolters at str 5 hell yeah

or even more a storm raven wıth hurricane bolters, twin linked assault cannons and a twin linked heavy bolter at +1 str. I WANT

Not sure about the most cost effective, but Chaos Sorceror is definitely the least. 10pts extra for 1WS less than Chaos Lord, +5pts for a second power and around 20pts per power...

5pt meltabombs are a good option though.

Durza wrote:Not sure about the most cost effective, but Chaos Sorceror is definitely the least. 10pts extra for 1WS less than Chaos Lord, +5pts for a second power and around 20pts per power...

5pt meltabombs are a good option though.

You get a force weapon though =|

5 pts Psyammo for dreadnaught autocannons. Turn an already powerful weapon into a 2 shot TL missile launcher

GamzaTheChaos wrote:

Durza wrote:Not sure about the most cost effective, but Chaos Sorceror is definitely the least. 10pts extra for 1WS less than Chaos Lord, +5pts for a second power and around 20pts per power...

5pt meltabombs are a good option though.

You get a force weapon though =|

... So does the SM librarian. With two free powers. And a hood. For the same price.

Free missile launchers and flamers for a 10-man tactical squad.

Durza wrote:

GamzaTheChaos wrote:

Durza wrote:Not sure about the most cost effective, but Chaos Sorceror is definitely the least. 10pts extra for 1WS less than Chaos Lord, +5pts for a second power and around 20pts per power...

5pt meltabombs are a good option though.

You get a force weapon though =|

... So does the SM librarian. With two free powers. And a hood. For the same price.

Just like to point out a sorcerer also has +1WS +1BS +1W +1A +1I and a 5++ save over a librarian, I'm sure that's enough free stuff to offset costs of powers

Honorable Mention: Tank Hunters on Cyclone Missile Launcher sporting Black Templar Terminators. Only 3 points per teminator.

Also, it will make their storm bolters S5, which can glance a rhino.


2nd honorable mention: Furious Charge on Black Templar Assault terminators. 3 points per model for +1I and +1S doesn't suck with Lightning claws that reroll to hit and wound.

curtis wrote:

Durza wrote:

GamzaTheChaos wrote:

Durza wrote:Not sure about the most cost effective, but Chaos Sorceror is definitely the least. 10pts extra for 1WS less than Chaos Lord, +5pts for a second power and around 20pts per power...

5pt meltabombs are a good option though.

You get a force weapon though =|

... So does the SM librarian. With two free powers. And a hood. For the same price.

Just like to point out a sorcerer also has +1WS +1BS +1W +1A +1I and a 5++ save over a librarian, I'm sure that's enough free stuff to offset costs of powers

Not really. A Chaos Sorcerer doesn't have the best selection of powers ever; Warptime is only useful in combat, where you DON'T want him (powerfist + Sorcerer = Dead Sorcerer); Doombolt is useless, an assault 3 S4 AP3 power that has 18" range and is hindered by cover is not worth an 115pt model; Wind of Chaos is reasonable, but requires you to be perilously close to an enemy; Gift requires you to be within 6" of an enemy at the start of your turn, and is only useful for trying to snipe powerfists from squads, making Warptime useful, but requiring him to purchase a costly Mark of Tzeentch if he wants to use both GoC and Warptime, at which point he become stupidly expensive.

Then you have the 3 Mark powers, out of which Nurgle's Rot is sub-par (s3 ap- hit, nice... not really...), Bolt of Change is basically an AP1 krak missile that you've just payed a stupidly high price for, and Lash of Submission is the only power that doesn't really have a drawback, especially coming from the cheapest mark.

Factor in the Sorcerer's lack of psychic defense, and the fact that half of his statline doesn't matter, and you've got a jolly overpriced model that can be outperformed by a Daemon Prince in all bar hiding; the only benefits of taking a Sorcerer are that he can join a squad and ride around in a rhino, firing lash out of it with relative impunity.

Chaos sorcerers don't suck, but they could use the 5th edition power bump that the Space Marine Librarians got.

Psybolt ammo on GK dreads.

Why on earth Mat Ward thought that upgrading two BS4/5 TL Autocannons to S8 was only a 5pt upgrade is beyond me.

Wolf Totem any one?

I can't believe no one has mentioned Psybolt Ammo....

So cost effective it's broken.

Xenocidal Maniac wrote:I can't believe no one has mentioned Psybolt Ammo....

So cost effective it's broken.

People have mentioned it... twice, on dreads most of all, 5 pts for a twinlinked krak missle platform of doom against tanks.

Cybork Body - 10pts for a 5++ on your already hard as nail Warboss. Nice

Nightfields - 10pts to reduce a weapon's maximum range by 6", effectively trolling meltas.

Phylactery - 15pts, and on a 6 the lord comes back with 3 wounds! ...And then he gets hit by a vindicator.

Warscythe.
WAY to cheap for what it does.

RaptorsTallon wrote:Warscythe.
WAY to cheap for what it does.

It's also the one of the few things that makes the cron army playable.

Space Marine Terminator Assault Squad:

0 points for Thunder Hammer and 3++ Storm Shield.

And thus players of 40k were introduced to era of Mat Ward. It was grim and dark.

I've got to go with whoever said meltaguns. All this other stuff is nice, I guess, but if I can have a meltagun, I take a meltagun.

Tau multi-tracker for 5 points.

Lets your suits fire both weapons, and lets tanks count as fast for the purpose of firing.


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kronk wrote:Honorable Mention: Tank Hunters on Cyclone Missile Launcher sporting Black Templar Terminators. Only 3 points per teminator.

Also, it will make their storm bolters S5, which can glance a rhino.


2nd honorable mention: Furious Charge on Black Templar Assault terminators. 3 points per model for +1I and +1S doesn't suck with Lightning claws that reroll to hit and wound.

It basically makes their storm-bolters a short-range version of the gun every single infantry model in my army gets.

Impressive.

TutorialBoss wrote:Space Marine Terminator Assault Squad:

0 points for Thunder Hammer and 3++ Storm Shield.

And thus players of 40k were introduced to era of Mat Ward. It was grim and dark.

Indeed, not something the game needed. True, TH/SS termi's were lacking something, but making it 3++ for CC only would have made them very popular regardless, 3++ against shooting as well, for zero cost increase, is more than a wee bit overdone and has lead to the extinction of other terminator types in C:SM armies.

im2randomghgh wrote:Tau multi-tracker for 5 points.

Lets your suits fire both weapons, and lets tanks count as fast for the purpose of firing.

I would have thought that the Disruption Pods would have been by far the better ones. Multitrackers on suits are 20% of their base points costs. Very good, but not cheap and vital for the proper functioning of the unit. On tanks, it depends entirely on what its armed with and what its shooting at. The 5pts for 4+ cover against anything further than 12" away is incredible, and gives Tau much needed resiliency for almost nothing, I've seen 20-30pts of such upgrades swing games entirely on their own more than once.

It basically makes their storm-bolters a short-range version of the gun every single infantry model in my army gets.

Impressive.

On far superior troops that can move and fire at full effect (and functionally giving them the same threat radius but with twice as many shots at that long range as Fire Warriors against vehicles), it makes a whole lot more difference, though at the same time I wouldn't say its really worth it.

CthuluIsSpy wrote:

RaptorsTallon wrote:Warscythe.
WAY to cheap for what it does.

It's also the one of the few things that makes the cron army playable.

I have to +1 this. A power weapon that kills invulns is amazingly good, sucks that it's only close combat in a shooty army ( but great use as a buffer or a Deathstar killer) .

psybolt for Dreads. The difference between putting a wound on something and exploding T4 with ID (and all the consequences like no FNP) is a world of difference why this was 5 on dreads while storm ravens pay like 20(?) makes no sense. Ward clearly didn't see the huge step adding +1 S does

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kronk wrote:Honorable Mention: Tank Hunters on Cyclone Missile Launcher sporting Black Templar Terminators. Only 3 points per teminator.

Also, it will make their storm bolters S5, which can glance a rhino.


2nd honorable mention: Furious Charge on Black Templar Assault terminators. 3 points per model for +1I and +1S doesn't suck with Lightning claws that reroll to hit and wound.

It basically makes their storm-bolters a short-range version of the gun every single infantry model in my army gets.

Impressive.

They move 6" and shoot 24", same as a pulse rifle.
Psybolts are better for that purpose, but S9 ML is the good part.

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kronk wrote:Honorable Mention: Tank Hunters on Cyclone Missile Launcher sporting Black Templar Terminators. Only 3 points per teminator.

Also, it will make their storm bolters S5, which can glance a rhino.


2nd honorable mention: Furious Charge on Black Templar Assault terminators. 3 points per model for +1I and +1S doesn't suck with Lightning claws that reroll to hit and wound.

It basically makes their storm-bolters a short-range version of the gun every single infantry model in my army gets.

Impressive.

Nice. But you're focusing on the wrong part. Do you have something that can move 6", shoot 4 times at S9AP3, and then assault what it shot with 5 powerfists at S9 (if the launchers didn't kill it's target) while sporting a 2+/5++?

Didn't think so...

kronk wrote:

im2randomghgh wrote:
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kronk wrote:Honorable Mention: Tank Hunters on Cyclone Missile Launcher sporting Black Templar Terminators. Only 3 points per teminator.

Also, it will make their storm bolters S5, which can glance a rhino.


2nd honorable mention: Furious Charge on Black Templar Assault terminators. 3 points per model for +1I and +1S doesn't suck with Lightning claws that reroll to hit and wound.

It basically makes their storm-bolters a short-range version of the gun every single infantry model in my army gets.

Impressive.

Nice. But you're focusing on the wrong part. Do you have something that can move 6", shoot 4 times at S9AP3, and then assault what it shot with 5 powerfists at S9 (if the launchers didn't kill it's target) while sporting a 2+/5++?

Didn't think so...

I have two mantas though.

Each one can shoot close to 100 times per turn.

Including two heavy rail guns.

Mantas are Apoc. They don't count.

im2randomghgh wrote:

kronk wrote:

im2randomghgh wrote:
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kronk wrote:Honorable Mention: Tank Hunters on Cyclone Missile Launcher sporting Black Templar Terminators. Only 3 points per teminator.

Also, it will make their storm bolters S5, which can glance a rhino.


2nd honorable mention: Furious Charge on Black Templar Assault terminators. 3 points per model for +1I and +1S doesn't suck with Lightning claws that reroll to hit and wound.

It basically makes their storm-bolters a short-range version of the gun every single infantry model in my army gets.

Impressive.

Nice. But you're focusing on the wrong part. Do you have something that can move 6", shoot 4 times at S9AP3, and then assault what it shot with 5 powerfists at S9 (if the launchers didn't kill it's target) while sporting a 2+/5++?

Didn't think so...

I have two mantas though.

Each one can shoot close to 100 times per turn.

Including two heavy rail guns.

Black Templars don't die when you happen to pass them and cough. Tau do.

Mr. Self Destruct wrote:

im2randomghgh wrote:

kronk wrote:

im2randomghgh wrote:
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kronk wrote:Honorable Mention: Tank Hunters on Cyclone Missile Launcher sporting Black Templar Terminators. Only 3 points per teminator.

Also, it will make their storm bolters S5, which can glance a rhino.


2nd honorable mention: Furious Charge on Black Templar Assault terminators. 3 points per model for +1I and +1S doesn't suck with Lightning claws that reroll to hit and wound.

It basically makes their storm-bolters a short-range version of the gun every single infantry model in my army gets.

Impressive.

Nice. But you're focusing on the wrong part. Do you have something that can move 6", shoot 4 times at S9AP3, and then assault what it shot with 5 powerfists at S9 (if the launchers didn't kill it's target) while sporting a 2+/5++?

Didn't think so...

I have two mantas though.

Each one can shoot close to 100 times per turn.

Including two heavy rail guns.

Black Templars don't die when you happen to pass them and cough. Tau do.

And to add to this massive quote box:

Considering many Tau have a basic BS stat of 3 without markerlights, its not quite as dependable at shooting as it should be. I mean certainly, markerlights are abundant in a good Tau list, but the fact remains that BS 3 for an army that depends on shooting as its only source of reliable attack is pretty bad. Its like how Termigants with devourers are amazing troops, being able to unload a gakload of dakka at a cheap price, but beacsue they are BS 3 that means usually only about half the shots will get through. BS 3 is redeemable when you can use sheer weight of numbers to back up for lack of shooting accuracy, but most firewarrior squads are very small, and even with a pretty good gun in their hands, alot of shots are gonna miss, and that sinks your boat.

And if we're going to throw Mantas in the mix, Ill throw a Heirophant. That thing just wont die

And don't rhinos have a rear armor of 10, so technically str 4 can glance a Rhino?

Deffrolla.

Painboy.

Swiftblade wrote:

Mr. Self Destruct wrote:

im2randomghgh wrote:

kronk wrote:

im2randomghgh wrote:
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kronk wrote:Honorable Mention: Tank Hunters on Cyclone Missile Launcher sporting Black Templar Terminators. Only 3 points per teminator.

Also, it will make their storm bolters S5, which can glance a rhino.


2nd honorable mention: Furious Charge on Black Templar Assault terminators. 3 points per model for +1I and +1S doesn't suck with Lightning claws that reroll to hit and wound.

It basically makes their storm-bolters a short-range version of the gun every single infantry model in my army gets.

Impressive.

Nice. But you're focusing on the wrong part. Do you have something that can move 6", shoot 4 times at S9AP3, and then assault what it shot with 5 powerfists at S9 (if the launchers didn't kill it's target) while sporting a 2+/5++?

Didn't think so...

I have two mantas though.

Each one can shoot close to 100 times per turn.

Including two heavy rail guns.

Black Templars don't die when you happen to pass them and cough. Tau do.

And to add to this massive quote box:

Considering many Tau have a basic BS stat of 3 without markerlights, its not quite as dependable at shooting as it should be. I mean certainly, markerlights are abundant in a good Tau list, but the fact remains that BS 3 for an army that depends on shooting as its only source of reliable attack is pretty bad. Its like how Termigants with devourers are amazing troops, being able to unload a gakload of dakka at a cheap price, but beacsue they are BS 3 that means usually only about half the shots will get through. BS 3 is redeemable when you can use sheer weight of numbers to back up for lack of shooting accuracy, but most firewarrior squads are very small, and even with a pretty good gun in their hands, alot of shots are gonna miss, and that sinks your boat.

And if we're going to throw Mantas in the mix, Ill throw a Heirophant. That thing just wont die

And don't rhinos have a rear armor of 10, so technically str 4 can glance a Rhino?

I often lament the lack of basic BS4. But if they did have that, Tau would be a force of nature. Especially since with Basic BS4 and with TA a Crisis team could have BS5

Waaagh banner 15 points (Ghazghkull WS 7 ) for 15 points in a nob squad.

Ima huge fan of Motw at 15 pts a potential 7 rending hits on a charge FTW.

DeffDred wrote:Deffrolla.

Painboy.

A painboy turns a nob squad with the proper mix of crazy weapon loadouts from point sink into death star!

IF you have to pay points 5 points for The Changling if you are talking upgrade, its dark angles the upgade to Sammael jetbike is free to a 14 14 10 land speeder with 4+ invol. You could also argue Multi-Meltas free on Dreads

Herald of Tzeentch's Chariot. 15 pts for +1S, +1T, +3W, +1A, Jetbike, Furious Charge. You lose IC status, but really, how could you not take this upgrade?

KFF

MY WHOLE ARMY GETS COVER SAVES HURR!!!

Camo cloaks essentially give a squad of veterans a 3+ invulnerable save, for 30 pts a squad. Add in go to ground and you can make that 2+, which aint bad.

Holy Orb of Antioch for Black Templars. Costs 10 points, and always wounds on a 2+, and has AP3

Gotta love the Holy Hand Grenade

Monty Python references FTW!

Ascalam wrote:Gotta love the Holy Hand Grenade

Monty Python references FTW!

Indeed

Joey wrote:Camo cloaks essentially give a squad of veterans a 3+ invulnerable save, for 30 pts a squad. Add in go to ground and you can make that 2+, which aint bad.

It gives them +1 to their *cover* save, which may or may not be 3+, and for a squad that costs 70pts base, that's not exactly cheap, there's a reason it's not hugely popular, especially given such units are usually mounted in chimeras where the cloaks don't do anything.

Rocky1 wrote:

Tau Disruption Pods. 5pts for a cover save for all vehicles at 12+"

Gotta be this

Yup. This has my vote. But it's still not enough to help my tau win a game lol

Thunder Shield

/thread

Not an upgrade so much as a unit...

But An'ggrath costs 888 points and gets infinite attacks in melee and is basically unkillable.

Infinite? That's terrible. You'd never stop rolling once you started a combat with him.

5-point Psybolt ammo is pretty ridiculous.

Durza wrote:Infinite? That's terrible. You'd never stop rolling once you started a combat with him.

Not really. You'd just kill the things in B2B REAL fast.

He only gets more attacks when he rolls "6"s , same as the old Axe of Khorne

Disruption pod for tau for 5 points. Vehicles get cover save from anything shooting more than 12 inches away.


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Nvrm someone said it already =[

nosferatu1001 wrote:He only gets more attacks when he rolls "6"s , same as the old Axe of Khorne

Yeah, I mean, the cheating Dreadnaught (DC Dread w/ Blood Talons) will get a ton more extra attacks.

Chowderhead wrote:

nosferatu1001 wrote:He only gets more attacks when he rolls "6"s , same as the old Axe of Khorne

Yeah, I mean, the cheating Dreadnaught (DC Dread w/ Blood Talons) will get a ton more extra attacks.

An'ggrath has like seven basic attacks plus IIRC three on the charge? so 10+ potentially infinite attacks

Plus, have you seen his statline? It's like they intended for him to be an unstoppable rape-machine.

5 pts. Psybolt Ammo upgrade for a Grey Knight Rifleman Dread must be the most cost-effective upgrade ever.


1. It increases the strength of both weapons at the same prize.

2. It increases the strength of twin-linked weapons making it more likely of being relevant.

3. It make said weapon capable of Insta-Gibbing Toughness 4 models, including such popular things as Marines, Tyranid Warriors and Ork Nobs to name a few.

4. It makes a popular anti-transport weapon even better.


For 5 pts.!!



.

Dpods on tau. Practically mandatory.

im2randomghgh wrote:

Chowderhead wrote:

nosferatu1001 wrote:He only gets more attacks when he rolls "6"s , same as the old Axe of Khorne

Yeah, I mean, the cheating Dreadnaught (DC Dread w/ Blood Talons) will get a ton more extra attacks.

An'ggrath has like seven basic attacks plus IIRC three on the charge? so 10+ potentially infinite attacks

Plus, have you seen his statline? It's like they intended for him to be an unstoppable rape-machine.

Maybe they did. Nothing shouts 'Run away then shoot me' like a Greater Daemon of Khorne.

Phazael wrote:Thunder Shield

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Those Lightning Hammers they come with are particularly effective as well. Though it's usually a good idea to throw some Storm Claws in there too.

Ya I didn't want to say anything.... but where is this amazing thunder shield upgrade?

Steelmage99 wrote:5 pts. Psybolt Ammo upgrade for a Grey Knight Rifleman Dread must be the most cost-effective upgrade ever.


1. It increases the strength of both weapons at the same prize.

2. It increases the strength of twin-linked weapons making it more likely of being relevant.

3. It make said weapon capable of Insta-Gibbing Toughness 4 models, including such popular things as Marines, Tyranid Warriors and Ork Nobs to name a few.

4. It makes a popular anti-transport weapon even better.


For 5 pts.!!

Ugh, I just got depressed over the whole thing again like when I first read the rule.

I think the 15 point discount "Power Fist" on PA Grey Knights ranks up there too.

Pen≥Sword wrote:I think the 15 point discount "Power Fist" on PA Grey Knights ranks up there too.

It's actually a force Thunder Hammer, though they are trading their force weapons for it.