It was always my understand that a biscuit in America was something savoury you had with gravy...yet I've also seen it apply to snacks.
So what the hell does "biscuit" mean over there?

Its like a fething savory scone you get served with gravy.

Pretty good actually. To me its like, dense stodgy bread with gravy on, nice to eat.

Over there, all biscuits are cookies. England cookie is a type of biscuit, but feth knows what we would call a Yank biscuit.

Maybe a large wet scone?

From watching shows like Man v's Food, the closest equivilent I can put it to is a scone.. but not a scone.


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Well, theres dog buscuits. not exactly a people snack tho...

its a semi soft buttery roll that is kind of dry

So just a scone then?

n0t_u wrote:So just a scone then?

softer, scones often times here are crunchy... for us anyway

Biscuits are soft like a slice of bread minus the crust

n0t_u wrote:So just a scone then?

No. scones are much more dense. A properly done biscuit (and must be steaming hot) is soft and much much lighter. Think more like a soft bread roll.

I like em, Ive ate loads, every time I go to Longbeach I would eat one pissed, but I dont think we have them in the UK because that market has been taken.

If you want a snack, with gravy, thats flour based, then this is much better.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biscuit



on the left is what you will most commonly find in the US, while the right is what British are accustomed to. on the right we call these crackers or cookies depending on if they are sweet or not.

mattyrm wrote: Its like a fething savory scone you get served with gravy.

Pretty good actually. To me its like, dense stodgy bread with gravy on, nice to eat.

Over there, all biscuits are cookies. England cookie is a type of biscuit, but feth knows what we would call a Yank biscuit.

Maybe a large wet scone?

This was my impression too.
But behold, this: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001DBRU4O
and others like it.
Clearly not a savoury scone served with gravy, what gives?

These are buscuits, or breakfast biscuits, that most Americans would identify and serve with either gravy, or butter, or butter and jelly (what you call jam, not Jello).

Joey wrote:This was my impression too.
But behold, this: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001DBRU4O
and others like it.
Clearly not a savoury scone served with gravy, what gives?

That looks like a fluffy cookie or shortbread to me.

They are warm and soft with a slightly crisp outside. Very similiar to scones over there (scone here is a little different as well) but not as dry, essentially.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2_Dgyvd_Jo

Why did Americans have to rename everything? It confuses me.

n0t_u wrote:So just a scone then?

Biscuit and scone dough is very similar, though biscuits typically have more butter and no sugar. Biscuits are eaten hot/warm while still soft, and are often served with breakfast. You can eat them plain, with butter or jam, with gravy, or like a sandwich (with sausage, egg, etc).

In Southern cuisine, biscuits can accompany lunch and dinner as well.


It doesn't take a lot of work to make biscuits from scratch (just as easy as making scones, though biscuits require a little more attention when combining the butter and flour), and they taste a lot better than any of the factory-made "biscuits" you can buy from the store.

"A biscuit is a small thing made out of bread. Usually it's got butter or something, but sometimes not."

That's pretty much it, the term is used for a lot of items, but those KFC biscuits pictured above are most common.

Joey wrote:
This was my impression too.
But behold, this: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001DBRU4O
and others like it.
Clearly not a savoury scone served with gravy, what gives?

"Biscuit" is sometimes used to describe cookies/crackers, but I usually only see this on Australian/British products.

American biscuit on left, British biscuit on right.

Oh man, have you had a Bourbon before Mel?

They are sweeeet.

Like Oreos but without chemicals in them.

I mean, I fething love both, but I like Bourbons more because they actually filll me up. Once ive dunked about 8 im done.

But Oreos? No gak, I once got one of those big 4 trays in Santa Barbara, made a cup of tea, and then knacked the whole thing, it took me about ten minutes, and my missus flatmates were going

"gak! He's a cookie monster! 2 at a time? Right up to the knuckle?!" (dunking)

I love them, but they frighten me, what's in them that they dont fill your stomach up!?

It's probably what's NOT in them that's more important.

Oreos are fairly empty as far as calories go. I can't really stand them myself, but then again I'm the kind of person you might catch eating FIg Newtons, so...

mattyrm wrote: Oh man, have you had a Bourbon before Mel?

They are sweeeet.

Like Oreos but without chemicals in them.

I mean, I fething love both, but I like Bourbons more because they actually filll me up. Once ive dunked about 8 im done.

But Oreos? No gak, I once got one of those big 4 trays in Santa Barbara, made a cup of tea, and then knacked the whole thing, it took me about ten minutes, and my missus flatmates were going

"gak! He's a cookie monster! 2 at a time? Right up to the knuckle?!" (dunking)

I love them, but they frighten me, what's in them that they dont fill your stomach up!?

Crack.

I feel sick before I feel satisfied

Less commonly than what was already pictured above:



AKA "Drop Biscuits"

Castiel wrote:Why did Americans have to rename everything? It confuses me.

Because Brit's use a lot of extra, unnecessary letters in spelling. So once we get done pulling out all the redundant letters, we might as well re-name a few things while we're at it! Just to keep things "fresh", you know?

Technically, the Brits renamed it, not the Americans. "Biscuits", traditionally, were closer to the American definition than the British one.

Gitsplitta wrote:

Castiel wrote:Why did Americans have to rename everything? It confuses me.

Because Brit's use a lot of extra, unnecessary letters in spelling. So once we get done pulling out all the redundant letters, we might as well re-name a few things while we're at it! Just to keep things "fresh", you know?

LEARN THE LETTER 'U', YOU CRAZY YANKS!

*looks*

Didn't recognize your new Avatar Mel. Gone over to the dark side eh?


@Blap: LOL! Well played sir.

Common type of scone in America

Anyway, as far as I can gather, a Biscuit in the US is a type of bready Scone, and British are Cookies (i.e Bourbons, Custard Creams, Ginger Nuts, Hobnobs...)

Those American biscuits look lovely. I may try to make some one day.


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Melissia wrote:Technically, the Brits renamed it, not the Americans. "Biscuits", traditionally, were closer to the American definition than the British one.

We also used to call Autumn "fall". There a quite a lot of "American words" that are actually British words that they ditched.

They are absolutely excellent if fresh and soft. Store bought ones are dog poop though. Ideally your grandmother or barring her, stealing someone else's grandmother will make them. Only grandmothers really know how. Its part of their dark powers.

In general... American biscuits are soft, fluffy & chewy. Rather bready in texture but more pastry like than actual bread (we have things called "rolls" that are like actual mini-bread loaves). Biscuits usually have a light buttery, savory flavor and are best served hot.

U.S. scones are more hard and dry (though not as much as a biscotti), tend to be denser and much more heavily flavored with fruits, cheeses or confectionery spices.

Scottish scone.

Kilkrazy wrote:


Scottish scone.

Welsh Scone

Gitsplitta wrote:In general... American biscuits are soft, fluffy & chewy. Rather bready in texture but more pastry like than actual bread (we have things called "rolls" that are like actual mini-bread loaves). Biscuits usually have a light buttery, savory flavor and are best served hot.

U.S. scones are more hard and dry (though not as much as a biscotti), tend to be denser and much more heavily flavored with fruits, cheeses or confectionery spices.

It depends a bit on who makes them. My mom's scones are typically a little crunchy on the outside, but generally fairly soft everywhere else. She makes them with raisins or chocolate chips baked in and sugar and cinnamon on the top.

Kilkrazy wrote:


Scottish scone.

The Stone of Scone is pronounced sc-OO-ne (oo as in spoon). Not sc-OH-ne (Oh as in Oh my!" or sc-ON-ne ( as in switch on) depending on where you are.

I've seen somebody call one a Sc-on-ey...

BlapBlapBlap wrote:I've seen somebody call one a Sc-on-ey...

Oops, I meant sc-ON

Castiel wrote:

BlapBlapBlap wrote:I've seen somebody call one a Sc-on-ey...

Oops, I meant sc-ON

No, somebody thought they were french

BlapBlapBlap wrote:

Castiel wrote:

BlapBlapBlap wrote:I've seen somebody call one a Sc-on-ey...

Oops, I meant sc-ON

No, somebody thought they were french

That's just weird!

Joey wrote:We also used to call Autumn "fall".

We use both autumn and fall. Your example sucks.

Okay. Scones are gross. They are way too dense; one might go so far as to call them the neutron stars of the baked goods world.

Biscuits, on the other hand are like fluffy, delicious supernovas, especially with butter and honey.

rubiksnoob wrote:Okay. Scones are gross. They are way too dense; one might go so far as to call them the neutron stars of the baked goods world.

Biscuits, on the other hand are like fluffy, delicious supernovas, especially with butter and honey.

Good scones are good in much the same way good biscuits are good.

dogma wrote:

rubiksnoob wrote:Okay. Scones are gross. They are way too dense; one might go so far as to call them the neutron stars of the baked goods world.

Biscuits, on the other hand are like fluffy, delicious supernovas, especially with butter and honey.

Good scones are good in much the same way good biscuits are good.

Dogma knows the score. I love a good scone, its just really nice bread that you stick things you like on.

A good fresh scone with some strawberry jam on is well nice, and if you think its gross you must be eating one with weird gak on it!

I like a plain one with peanut butter and jelly on.

I bet a British scone would go well with meat gravy as well, considering they are more or less the exact same thing, you cant say they are gross surely?

I prefer a dinner roll or perhaps a toasted piece of french bread with some garlic and butter spread over it.

A variant of Texas Toast if you will.

Having a scone with anything other than butter, jam and clotted cream can only end in disaster.

Melissia wrote:

Joey wrote:We also used to call Autumn "fall".

We use both autumn and fall. Your example sucks.

In Texas we call that not summer.

Frazzled wrote:

Melissia wrote:

Joey wrote:We also used to call Autumn "fall".

We use both autumn and fall. Your example sucks.

In Texas we call that not summer.

And it lasts 2 weeks, same as spring.

This is so F'n tasty. Love me some BNG.

As for why Americans change names of stuff, I'm sure at one point they were the same biscuits they just changed over time.

It looks like a mix of bread, crumpets and vomit 0_o

BlapBlapBlap wrote:It looks like a mix of bread, crumpets and vomit 0_o

Shun the non-believer. Biscuits and gravy is a staple of Army chow halls. Also known as gak-on-a-Shingle, or SOS for short. Seriously, a fresh (mom-made) biscuit with chipped beef gravy is fething divine.

Sgt_Scruffy wrote:

BlapBlapBlap wrote:It looks like a mix of bread, crumpets and vomit 0_o

Shun the non-believer. Biscuits and gravy is a staple of Army chow halls. Also known as gak-on-a-Shingle, or SOS for short. Seriously, a fresh (mom-made) biscuit with chipped beef gravy is fething divine.

That's gravy?!

BlapBlapBlap wrote:

Sgt_Scruffy wrote:

BlapBlapBlap wrote:It looks like a mix of bread, crumpets and vomit 0_o

Shun the non-believer. Biscuits and gravy is a staple of Army chow halls. Also known as gak-on-a-Shingle, or SOS for short. Seriously, a fresh (mom-made) biscuit with chipped beef gravy is fething divine.

That's gravy?!

Yes, that is white, or breakfast, gravy.

I for one am unAmerican and will never put Biscuits and white gravy in my mouth. My dad however could live off that mess.

It's a little known fact that the Civil War was basically an unprovoked invasion by the Union in order to secure the secrets of good, Confederate biscuit industry. That whole emancipation thing and "preserving the Union" thing was just window dressing.

Joey wrote:Having a scone with anything other than butter, jam and clotted cream can only end in disaster.

Joey has the right of it.

Incidentally, 'biscuit; comes from 'biscotti', meaning 'baked twice' (iirc) - are American 'biscuits' baked twice?

Only once, and that why we changed the name.

Don't quote me on that .

Biscuits and scones are different. Your English scones look different than your Southern Buttermilk Biscuits but there is not that much difference between the two. And if you shape your biscuits like scones and scones like biscuits, it’s hard to tell the difference. They both are often mixed and baked the same way and some people will use a round biscuit cutter for both. The scones are usually made with egg and are a little sweeter. Often scones have fruit or nuts added and may be drizzled with a glaze. But you can add fruit and nuts to a biscuit recipe also, (but those that make you biscuits become scones?). Now scones originated in Scotland and biscuits are generally thought of as an American food.

If you would like to fancy up your biscuits, add a touch of sugar, some fruit, and maybe some nuts. You can cut them into squares, wedges, or cut them round with a biscuit cutter. You can drizzle a glaze over them. Are they then scones? Does it matter?

BlapBlapBlap wrote:It looks like a mix of bread, crumpets and vomit 0_o

That's basically what it tastes like.

Frazzled wrote:

Melissia wrote:

Joey wrote:We also used to call Autumn "fall".

We use both autumn and fall. Your example sucks.

In Texas we call that not summer.

In Louisiana we call that the end of summer.

We only have 2 seasons there, y'know.


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Sgt_Scruffy wrote:

BlapBlapBlap wrote:It looks like a mix of bread, crumpets and vomit 0_o

Shun the non-believer. Biscuits and gravy is a staple of Army chow halls. Also known as gak-on-a-Shingle, or SOS for short. Seriously, a fresh (mom-made) biscuit with chipped beef gravy is fething divine.

White Gravy isn't SoS, it uses sausage.

SoS has chipped beef.

Two different things.

Deathshead420 wrote:

This is so F'n tasty. Love me some BNG.

As for why Americans change names of stuff, I'm sure at one point they were the same biscuits they just changed over time.

Yes, so fething many times over. Seriously, it may look gross to you lot across the pond, but if you ever venture this way and want some breakfeast, TRUST ME, as a fat guy, these you will definitely tell your friends back home about

What in gods name is That? Looks like a Scone that a Cat's threw up on.

I don't put sugar, fruit or nuts in scones and they are most definitely not glazed so they are pretty much exactly like american biscuits.

mwnciboo wrote:What in gods name is That? Looks like a Scone that a Cat's threw up on.

Biscuits and sausage gravy. I know I know, it does look bad (and Im sure its not too good for the health but hey this IS America) but Im telling you, its fething amazing food.

BlapBlapBlap wrote:That's gravy?!

White gravy, yes.

It's like a béchamel sauce, with the roux made of meat drippings and flour, with milk or cream added and black pepper and bits of sausage are put in for flavor.

That actually sounds nice, just would take a bit of getting used to visually.

Oh and what is Grits?

Hrm... Could you spice it up a little with some chopped and sautéed chorizo in place of sausage?

That would turn it Red, with the Smoked paprika in the Chorizo.

Reddy-orange, that gloriously colourful and delicious oil is the main reason I use chorizo in anything.

You can achieve the same with Garlic, olive oil and a teaspoon of Smoked Paprika. It tastes the same without the Sausage. SORRY this isn't a cooking forum.....

Back to what are/is Grits? I say it in the US as a Breakfast option?

mwnciboo wrote:That actually sounds nice, just would take a bit of getting used to visually.

Oh and what is Grits?

Grits is made from corn (as far as I know) and are KINNDA like mashed potatoes, but instead of being creamy, its more or a grainy texture. Sometimes people make it with just butter, or other times sugar and such

Eh, I'd rather have the sausage too

Grits are nasty, it's not even proper people food, it's cattle feed.

Corpsesarefun wrote:Hrm... Could you spice it up a little with some chopped and sautéed chorizo in place of sausage?

Definitely.

KingCracker wrote:

mwnciboo wrote:That actually sounds nice, just would take a bit of getting used to visually.

Oh and what is Grits?

Grits is made from corn (as far as I know) and are KINNDA like mashed potatoes, but instead of being creamy, its more or a grainy texture. Sometimes people make it with just butter, or other times sugar and such

Okay cheers, looks like Polenta or Semolina.

Melissia wrote:Grits are nasty, it's not even proper people food, it's cattle feed.

Corpsesarefun wrote:Hrm... Could you spice it up a little with some chopped and sautéed chorizo in place of sausage?

Definitely.

I wouldnt say its nasty, but I will admit, its definitely not at the top of my "Things I want to eat with breakfast" list

I do like me some polenta...

Polenta is only marginally better than grits because it was cornmeal (instead of raw corn like Grits are) and boiled to a paste in soup (Grits are often just boiled in water), but it's still not exactly something I'd really want to eat.

I dunno Mel, it comes down to taste really. I personally fething HATE liver and onions, but for some unknown reason, people flock to that gak

There are three ultimate breakfast foods: Pancakes, eggy bread (aka french toast) and bacon.

I also don't like it much. Mind you, I'm a person who likes to put hot sauce as a spice in my pasta so I'm hardly one to talk.

KingCracker wrote:I dunno Mel, it comes down to taste really. I personally fething HATE liver and onions, but for some unknown reason, people flock to that gak

Oh yes, the Liver must be flash fried, in a searing hot pan. About 10 seconds a side done. Liver if over cooked goes tough and literally everyone over cooks it. It is actually very good for you raw and you don't need to cook it. Same with kidney's if you serve it with red current jelly on Hot buttered toast fantastic Woodland breakfast.

I can't stand the taste of liver or kidneys, even nigh on raw.

Hot sauce is good gak though.

I love being an omnivore (we are the Apex Predator after all), I enjoy almost all parts of the animal. It is the only way to truly appreciate it's sacrafice, to kill an animal just for one small piece of it is truly wasteful. Lungs and eyes no, but everything else is fine.

I'll eat anything I like the taste of, I just dislike the taste of liver and kidney. Cheeks and trotters are good.

'Biscuits', 'Sausage Gravy', 'Grits'.... Jesus, and you guys take the piss out of OUR food!?

Albatross wrote:'Biscuits', 'Sausage Gravy', 'Grits'.... Jesus, and you guys take the piss out of OUR food!?

At least we don't have a food named spotted dick.

Amaya wrote:

Albatross wrote:'Biscuits', 'Sausage Gravy', 'Grits'.... Jesus, and you guys take the piss out of OUR food!?

At least we don't have a food named spotted dick.

Spotted dick is tasty as a tasty thing on tasty day...

I don't know but Biscuit sounds like a cookie to me. When ever I hear biscuits I immediately think of cookies.
(aussie)
Though american's Biscuits with gravy.... Dear god it is actually delicious...

Corpsesarefun wrote:I'll eat anything I like the taste of, I just dislike the taste of liver and kidney. Cheeks and trotters are good.

Same here, I like to try all kinds of food, but if I cant stand the taste thats it, I wont try it again for a number of years. Because sometimes your tastes change and you discover bad things are now good. Me......cannot stand liver, tried it many times, and it seems to just get worse and worse with age

KingCracker wrote:

Corpsesarefun wrote:I'll eat anything I like the taste of, I just dislike the taste of liver and kidney. Cheeks and trotters are good.

Same here, I like to try all kinds of food, but if I cant stand the taste thats it, I wont try it again for a number of years. Because sometimes your tastes change and you discover bad things are now good. Me......cannot stand liver, tried it many times, and it seems to just get worse and worse with age

Thank god you weren't served hagis like I was in Brisbane that was the most disgusting thing I've had ever!

Had haggis, it was ok I guess...

I think I threw up stuff that looked like haggis.

Never had haggis.

And biscuits and gravy are delicious.

Great White wrote:Never had haggis.

And biscuits and gravy are delicious.

Especially at camps. I don't know what they put in them. But dang are they good. (Nor do I want to know haha)

Why do you think its called sausage gravy?

Obviously because it has steak in it.

Melissia wrote:I think I threw up stuff that looked like haggis.

Fair game. I probably vomited over some biscuits and TAH-DAH!



Why don't you like our Bourbons? Or Ginger Nuts? Or Hobnobs?

WHY DO YOU HATE CRUMPETS?!

Haggis, Neps and tatties is amazing. If you like Black Pudding, (Blood sausage) then Haggis is amazing, so nice and filling and real cultural food.

A traditional British Food is (You won't believe this) called "Fa.ggots"...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faggot_(food)

Having grown up in the upper Midwest I thought grits were something made up for TV or Movies, and never even considered biscuits anything other than dressing for my sausage and eggs at McDonalds. The D-Fac ladies in the south convinced me that Biscuits and Gravy are the bee's knees: and Pecan Pie is jawsome. (Grits are still aggressively mediocre.)

mwnciboo wrote:Haggis, Neps and tatties is amazing. If you like Black Pudding, (Blood sausage) then Haggis is amazing, so nice and filling and real cultural food.

Moose Blood Pudding from Norway is delicious. Why do Europeans seem to enjoy eating solidified blood?

BlapBlapBlap wrote:

mwnciboo wrote:Haggis, Neps and tatties is amazing. If you like Black Pudding, (Blood sausage) then Haggis is amazing, so nice and filling and real cultural food.

Moose Blood Pudding from Norway is delicious. Why do Europeans seem to enjoy eating solidified blood?

Cause of the purified rage.

Bromsy wrote:

BlapBlapBlap wrote:

mwnciboo wrote:Haggis, Neps and tatties is amazing. If you like Black Pudding, (Blood sausage) then Haggis is amazing, so nice and filling and real cultural food.

Moose Blood Pudding from Norway is delicious. Why do Europeans seem to enjoy eating solidified blood?

Cause of the purified RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE! and resourcefulness of them.

Fix'd.

Castiel wrote:Why did Americans have to rename everything? It confuses me.

Biscuits v cookies comes down to a language difference, really. Provincial latin v Dutch.

Biscuit comes from the latin via French for "twice cooked", and cookie comes from the Dutch for "small cake" (koekje) - because the Dutch originally had the New Amsterdam settlement and it spread from there. Originally, the cookie was more like a scone.

Somehow, the "Biscuit" in the US took on the traits of the English scone, whereas the "small cake" became a twice cooked hard thing that became either a cracker or cookie (savoury v sweet?)

mwnciboo wrote:Haggis, Neps and tatties is amazing. If you like Black Pudding, (Blood sausage) then Haggis is amazing, so nice and filling and real cultural food.

A traditional British Food is (You won't believe this) called "Fa.ggots"...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faggot_(food)

Yeah you still get them in Morrisons, and they come in gravy!

Edit- And dakka even censors the picture link..

Americans call our biscuits cookies.

Weirdos.

Grits is only the US version of Gruts.

But mark the Rustic, haggis fed,
The trembling earth resounds his tread.
Clap in his walie nieve a blade,
He'll mak it whissle;
An' legs an' arms, an' heads will sned,
Like taps o' thrissle. - Address to a Haggis - Robert Burns

Haggis is awesome. It needs said.

Asherian Command wrote:

KingCracker wrote:

Corpsesarefun wrote:I'll eat anything I like the taste of, I just dislike the taste of liver and kidney. Cheeks and trotters are good.

Same here, I like to try all kinds of food, but if I cant stand the taste thats it, I wont try it again for a number of years. Because sometimes your tastes change and you discover bad things are now good. Me......cannot stand liver, tried it many times, and it seems to just get worse and worse with age

Thank god you weren't served hagis like I was in Brisbane that was the most disgusting thing I've had ever!

Ive had haggis before, it was actually pretty good minus the liver.

Gravy? Thats not gravy. Gravy is brown and made from concentrated roasting juices and stock. That is white sauce with bits in.

Also, don't write off liver. Its normaly overcooked and not all liver is the same. Pigs liver tastes realy strong, where as lambs liver and calves liver is much milder taste.

If you don't know how to flash fry it safely then do liver with onions and bacon slow cooked. Fry the liver and bacon, sweat the onions, cover in stock (to make a real gravy ) put in a bay leaf and cook on 160C for two hours. Have with mash with lots of butter and some nice green veg. Much less chance of ending up with inedible dry gak.

There's more than one kind of gravy.

Aye the Yanks make white gravy and brown gravy and a few others, don't let the colour put you off, it tastes great.

Like white sausage!

BlapBlapBlap wrote:It looks like a mix of bread, crumpets and vomit 0_o

it may look like that (as kids we called it S.O.S.(s*** on a shingle)) but damn is it good


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BlapBlapBlap wrote:

Sgt_Scruffy wrote:

BlapBlapBlap wrote:It looks like a mix of bread, crumpets and vomit 0_o

Shun the non-believer. Biscuits and gravy is a staple of Army chow halls. Also known as gak-on-a-Shingle, or SOS for short. Seriously, a fresh (mom-made) biscuit with chipped beef gravy is fething divine.

That's gravy?!

OHHH for feths sake you don't know what chipped beef is no wonder we rebelled

Liver is the devil. Gravy is saintly. Haggis is bland sausage. Knowing is half the battle.

mattyrm wrote: Aye the Yanks make white gravy and brown gravy and a few others, don't let the colour put you off, it tastes great.

Like white sausage!

I'm not sure how to take this.

Amaya wrote:

mattyrm wrote: Aye the Yanks make white gravy and brown gravy and a few others, don't let the colour put you off, it tastes great.

Like white sausage!

I'm not sure how to take this.

I meant you know.. like Venison Sausages and that?

Well, and cock.


....

No no.. just venison.

Amaya wrote:

mattyrm wrote: Aye the Yanks make white gravy and brown gravy and a few others, don't let the colour put you off, it tastes great.

Like white sausage!

I'm not sure how to take this.

You might wanna reword that....

Amaya wrote:There's more than one kind of gravy.

Yes, beef, chicken, pork, veg. Lord knows what animal your roasting to get that colour gravy.

mattyrm wrote: Aye the Yanks make white gravy and brown gravy and a few others, don't let the colour put you off, it tastes great.

Like white sausage!

"Gravy is a sauce, made often from the juices that run naturally from meat or vegetables during cooking. In North America the term can refer to a wider variety of sauces and gravy is often thicker than in Britain."

There you go. Wikipedia says that its a sauce and if its on wikipedia it must be a fact! Yanks are wrong, the British are right, God Save the Queen!

Also, do you meen white sausage as in Weisswurst, or white pudding as in the black pudding stuff from scotland?

Electro wrote:

Amaya wrote:There's more than one kind of gravy.

Yes, beef, chicken, pork, veg. Lord knows what animal your roasting to get that colour gravy.

mattyrm wrote: Aye the Yanks make white gravy and brown gravy and a few others, don't let the colour put you off, it tastes great.

Like white sausage!

"Gravy is a sauce, made often from the juices that run naturally from meat or vegetables during cooking. In North America the term can refer to a wider variety of sauces and gravy is often thicker than in Britain."

There you go. Wikipedia says that its a sauce and if its on wikipedia it must be a fact! Yanks are wrong, the British are right, God Save the Queen!

You are basing a factual statement on wikipedia. FAIL

ohh and its white because of the flour. sausage gravy is actualla brownish tinge. hmmm... better go see my Great Aunt Grace i need me some chipped beef gravy and biscuts

chromedog wrote:

Castiel wrote:Why did Americans have to rename everything? It confuses me.

Biscuits v cookies comes down to a language difference, really. Provincial latin v Dutch.

Biscuit comes from the latin via French for "twice cooked", and cookie comes from the Dutch for "small cake" (koekje) - because the Dutch originally had the New Amsterdam settlement and it spread from there. Originally, the cookie was more like a scone.

Somehow, the "Biscuit" in the US took on the traits of the English scone

The American biscuit is tthe proper, actual biscuit derived from hardtack (and its roman forebearer, the buccellum) The british confectionary biscuit came later on..

captain collius wrote:
You are basing a factual statement on wikipedia. FAIL

You do know that was the joke... Infact the whole post was tongue in cheek?

Electro wrote:

captain collius wrote:
You are basing a factual statement on wikipedia. FAIL

You do know that was the joke... Infact the whole post was tongue in cheek?

I kno i was being a donkey

mattyrm wrote:
Like white sausage!

Damn you, now I have to order some boudin blanc from NOLA.

This thread made me want sauerkraut and sausage for breakfast. Thanks guys.....my smelly kitchen thanks you

Chongara wrote:Less commonly than what was already pictured above:



AKA "Drop Biscuits"

^^^This is the first thing I think of when someone says biscuit

Also rock biscuits



Basically a drop biscuit with loads of other stuuf includeing fruit.

Castiel wrote:

Amaya wrote:

mattyrm wrote: Aye the Yanks make white gravy and brown gravy and a few others, don't let the colour put you off, it tastes great.

Like white sausage!

I'm not sure how to take this.

You might wanna reword that....

It goes in the...mouth?

Ma55ter_fett wrote:
Also rock biscuits



Basically a drop biscuit with loads of other stuuf includeing fruit.

And to confuse things even more I think that is what we call a rock cake in the UK...

Electro wrote:
And to confuse things even more I think that is what we call a rock cake in the UK...

This is a rock cake..



Woah! Your right!

dogma wrote:

mattyrm wrote:
Like white sausage!

Damn you, now I have to order some boudin blanc from NOLA.

I love, and miss, Boudin. I used to live in Louisiana, and the food there was amazing!

Never heard of a rock biscuit, but it looks like a cookie.

But a breakfast with Bacon, Buttermilk Biscuits, Sausage gravy, and some Scrambled Eggs with cheese is delicious.

If you ever want to make some Buttermilk Biscuits there are a ton of recipes out there. Use a one like this and taste the deliciousness.:

http://www.cooks.com/rec/doc/0,184,155181-229199,00.html

And a Sausage Gravy recipe: http://www.cooks.com/rec/view/0,175,133181-245192,00.html

Boudin, like many foods, can be either the greatest thing ever or complete crap depending on who made it.

What do Welsh Cakes count as? They were my favorite food when visiting the UK (other than the many beers on tap).

My favourite foods:

Crumpets

Norwegian Waffles

Scotch Pancakes

GINGER NUTS

DIGESTIVES

HOBNOBS


Do you have Crumpets? No? I pity you.

I did have crumpets and enjoyed them. But Welsh Cakes were superior.

You have to eat welshcakes toasted, split and lathered with good salted butter.

Damn this thread makes me hungry...

Corpsesarefun wrote:You have to eat welshcakes toasted, split and lathered with good salted butter.

Damn this thread makes me hungry...

Makes me want to eat a pasty... or just something really British...

I may have to try making welshcakes this weekend.

I assume, like everything else from Wales, they're superior to the English version.

biccat wrote:I may have to try making welshcakes this weekend.

I assume, like everything else from England, they're superior to the Welsh version.

I fixed that for you.

biccat wrote:I may have to try making welshcakes this weekend.

I assume, like everything else from Wales, they're superior to the English version.

HOW DARE YOU!

You have the wrong stereotype!

It's actually illegal to drive in Wales if you have less than 4 mg of Mutton in your bloodstream, you know.

biccat wrote:I may have to try making welshcakes this weekend.

I assume, like everything else from Wales, they're superior to the English version.

Welsh cakes aren't really like anything from England, I guess the closest thing would be a scone but even that is pretty different.

Corpsesarefun wrote:

biccat wrote:I may have to try making welshcakes this weekend.

I assume, like everything else from Wales, they're superior to the English version.

Welsh cakes aren't really like anything from England, I guess the closest thing would be a scone but even that is pretty different.

They appear to be similar to English Muffins.

biccat wrote:

Corpsesarefun wrote:

biccat wrote:I may have to try making welshcakes this weekend.

I assume, like everything else from Wales, they're superior to the English version.

Welsh cakes aren't really like anything from England, I guess the closest thing would be a scone but even that is pretty different.

They appear to be similar to English Muffins.

They aren't to be honest...

English muffins are savoury, welshcakes are kinda similar to lardycakes in that they are just fat, sugar, fruit and flour.

Hah, lardycakes! The first time my missus saw those in the store she just shook her head and said "How are WE the fat ones?!"

Despite lardycakes being native to Wiltshire I've never actually consumed one.

Where's a Fig roll from then?

I loves fig rolls.


If the fig roll isn't British I suggest we invade and make them British. As is our way!

Invade fig rolls?
I'm not sure on the SOP concerning the invasion of a pastry product but i'm sure we may need to dust them off...

Is a fig roll like a fig newton? Yes, I am the ignorant American stereotype.

Great White wrote:Is a fig roll like a fig newton? Yes, I am the ignorant American stereotype.

They are exactly the same thing.

Corpsesarefun wrote:

Great White wrote:Is a fig roll like a fig newton? Yes, I am the ignorant American stereotype.

They are exactly the same thing.

Is the british version roll shaped?

Fig newtons are like this:



I personally prefer the strawberry ones to the fig ones.

rubiksnoob wrote:

Corpsesarefun wrote:

Great White wrote:Is a fig roll like a fig newton? Yes, I am the ignorant American stereotype.

They are exactly the same thing.

Is the british version roll shaped?

Nope, they are exactly the same.

Its Egyptian originally, or so I believe.

Great White wrote:Is a fig roll like a fig newton? Yes, I am the ignorant American stereotype.

Naw man, I dont look at this stuff as making us look ignorant. I mean, even though we (Brits and Americans) have many similarities culturally, somethings are just REALLY fething different. Its ok to ask I think. I made a post a few months back about spotted dick. I knew what it was, but I ate some here in the states, and wanted to make sure it was real....it wasnt

I bet you did eat some spotted dick...

At any rate, werent' we talking about biscuits?

Personally I prefer texas toast.

Lookie there, we agree on something. Texas toast is fething awesome.



Also, was that gay joke? If so, it went over my head

Amaya wrote:

mattyrm wrote: Aye the Yanks make white gravy and brown gravy and a few others, don't let the colour put you off, it tastes great.

Like white sausage!

I'm not sure how to take this.

That's what she said.

You have to understand that the southern biscuit is the default biscuit of the US. Most of us still understand the English term as you can buy cookies and healthfood labeled as biscuits.....but they are just cookies. We call crumpets English muffins.

Grits are ok, you have to add stuff to them, I've had some great cheese grits.

The best breakfast has to be a Monte Cristo!

You don't call crumpets english muffins.

Crumpet


English Muffin

*Looks at both* Erm..................I dont see a difference other then one has butter

KingCracker wrote:*Looks at both* Erm..................I dont see a difference other then one has butter

They look similar, but there is a difference, and you can definitely taste the difference if you eat one.

Ok, anyone wanna fly to America to prove this theory?

If you pay the bill yeah...

If only I were rich enough, Id pay to meet the cone master We could shoot things

Like my henchmen!

That picture of an American english muffin is the cheap-ass kind you can buy six for a dollar in the supermarket. There are MUCH nicer ones which look basically identical to that crumpet.




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A nice, warm, fluffy, flaky biscuit is lovely. They can also be cheap and dry and crappy, served at cheap fast food places like KFC.

Scones can be great, but IME are usually a bit dry for my tastes.

Lots of tasty baked good in this thread though, overall.

Mannahnin wrote:That picture of an American english muffin is the cheap-ass kind you can buy six for a dollar in the supermarket. There are MUCH nicer ones which look basically identical to that crumpet.

No it doesn't...
There is a very clear difference between the two.
The English muffin is more akin to toast than the crumpet.
Also the crumpet has lots of tiny holes in...

GAH!! KFC biscuits are the fething devil! I swear the last time I ate one, it was so dry, it got lodged in my throat and I nearly choked to death from it. I had to stand up, and while heaving over as fast as possible, do a clear throat/cough/gag thing to get the fether out. I mean, what kind of biscuit does that?!?

A hardtack.

Yeah, KFC's biscuits suck. But it's fast food so I don't expect much from it...

True, but they DO have that chicken on chicken monstrosity that is disgustingly delicious

KingCracker wrote:*Looks at both* Erm..................I dont see a difference other then one has butter

Crumpets are griddle cooked, rather than baked, and their texture is almost reminiscent of a very spongy pancake.

Also, that crumpet isn't split.

My mistake, then; i thought it was split. Sounds good, though.

Purp, the English Muffin has lots of "holes" (really irregular nooks and crannies) from all the little air pockets. It is split with a fork.

Mannahnin wrote:My mistake, then; i thought it was split. Sounds good, though.

Purp, the English Muffin has lots of "holes" (really irregular nooks and crannies) from all the little air pockets. It is split with a fork.

A crumpet has a sponge like texture whereas an english muffin is pretty much just a soft, circular bread roll.

Wow of all the things I never expected to learn about on dakka, I'm sure learning the difference between a crumpet and an english muffin is one of them. All I know is that they both look tasty with butter. And probably would go nicely with some butter cheese grits and bacon.

GG

generalgrog wrote:Wow of all the things I never expected to learn about on dakka, I'm sure learning the difference between a crumpet and an english muffin is one of them. All I know is that they both look tasty with butter. And probably would go nicely with some butter cheese grits and bacon.

Crumpets with Cheese and Bacon?!

You make me sick.

I had proper crumpets with butter and maple syrup once. It was pretty delicious. How do you guys usually have them in the UK? Butter and jam and that sort of thing?

Butter and jam or butter and marmalade is standard.

Some heathens have them with butter and marmite...

BlapBlapBlap wrote:

generalgrog wrote:Wow of all the things I never expected to learn about on dakka, I'm sure learning the difference between a crumpet and an english muffin is one of them. All I know is that they both look tasty with butter. And probably would go nicely with some butter cheese grits and bacon.

Crumpets with Cheese and Bacon?!

You make me sick.

Crumpets with cheese "Grits" and bacon sir.....It's all about the Grit!

GG

Toasted muffins with cheese grits and bacon would be very good...

Not sure about crumpets though.

Corpsesarefun wrote:Toasted muffins with cheese grits and bacon would be very good...

Not sure about crumpets though.

Mate crumpets go with anything. I eat loads and I always had a cupboard full when I was living on board at 40 commando cos you could steal them from the galley. Many a time I ran out of butter (plain with butter is the norm obviously) and I ate them hung over on Saturday mornings with all fething sorts.

Peanut butter and jam, chocolate spread, marmalade, beef pate, cheese spread, dairylea slices.. you fething name it.

I would happily knack some with cheese and bacon, they work with everything.

Its just posh bread with ventilation at the end of the day!

Crumpets are best with just butter on them.

If you want to add extra toppings use pikelets instead.... there's more room

generalgrog wrote:Wow of all the things I never expected to learn about on dakka, I'm sure learning the difference between a crumpet and an english muffin is one of them. All I know is that they both look tasty with butter. And probably would go nicely with some butter cheese grits and bacon.

GG

Theres a thread for that

On the topic of bakery goods, how do you Brits like your cake?

Great White wrote:On the topic of bakery goods, how do you Brits like your cake?

Patriotic.

Great White wrote:On the topic of bakery goods, how do you Brits like your cake?

Chocolatey.
Spongey.
FLAPJACKS!
Did I mention Chocolatey?
Able to fit into a wrapper the size of a Matchbox.

Yeah...

Great White wrote:On the topic of bakery goods, how do you Brits like your cake?

We've got more types of cake that you can shake a gakky stick at. You name it we Probably have a cake with it in.

Assuming you mean actual cake and not fish or cars or some other random thing you have chosen to name in variance to the proper straight-from-the-Queens-mouth English way of saying it?

I cant think of anything we named with cake in it that has to do with fish and cars...................though admittedly I only spent a moment thinking on it

Because of this thread I have had biscuits and gravy three days in a row now.

As a side note, Whataburger actually has pretty good biscuits and gravy if you can get fresh biscuits.

I remember Arby's used to have good biscuits and gravy many many many years ago. I dont really know what Im adding to this discussion

Anything you say KC adds to a discussion.

Pfff, you havnt seen the DCM forums

Soon....

I said that for years. Now Im never going back

So you're saying it's worth it.

About half my postings since I became one, have been there. But thats enough OT from me, any more questions about it, PM me

Will do, and all this thread does is make me want some biscuits.

Salted, roast cashews + crunchy nut cornflakes.

No milk.

It works.

I prefer to eat my cashews by themselves, lightly salted.

I don't think I've ever had a cashew.

Have them with crunchy nut...
They are tasty...

You guys should try it, the whole salty/sweet/nutty thing is good.

Cake in the UK?

DON'T DO IT!!

NSFW

Nonce...

mwnciboo wrote:Nonce...

Bit harsh... Who is by the way?

Matt you need to watch more BRASS EYE to get the reference.

Gary Lineker and Phil Collins endorsed a spoof charity in (BRASS EYE), Nonce Sense, ("nonce" is British slang for people convicted or suspected of molestation or sexual crimes), Collins saying, "I'm talking Nonce Sense!"

The best BRASS EYE is the military gay one, especially in the light of don't ask don't tell being repealed. It reminds me of the old fashion views of sexuality when I first joined up, it's much better these days with everything being equal.

Definitely NSFW - 4:20 is a good mocking of the old fashioned type stereotypes

Hah yeah that is funny. I remember when BE first aired and channel 4 got gak loads of complaints for dressing a pedo up as a school.

Melissia wrote:I prefer to eat my cashews by themselves, lightly salted.

I did the same way once.....until I developed an allergy to cashews. Now I cant touch them, unless I want to experience excruciating, debilitating pains in my stomach

Moving onto other nuts, I love Pistachio's.

Baklawa, Ice Cream etc. They have such a fantastic taste, able to be savoury and also to make sweet dishes.

Yes, those are awesome nuts as well. Ive since moved on to Almonds though, not quite as good as the cashew, but a good 2nd place I think

Almonds are the shiz...

Purple, you ever notice how the coolest mofo's on DAKKA, seem to have some type of head covering device in their avatars?

Does a CSM helmet count?

A helmet is a head covering device yes?











Awwww cmon in man, join the awesomeness

Good, then I agree, the coolest people do have head covering devices in their avatars!

I think its a scientific fact. Lets go with scientific, it sounds so.....official

For science!

And you can't question science, all science is fact!

ITS TRUE!!!!!!!! THE EARTH IS FLA.........ROUND!!!! Its ROUND!

it makes me laugh that i noticed this thread while having a breakfast of biscuits and gravy

Do I count as having a head covering device?

I hate almonds...

My head covering device is air.

Almonds are okay, peanuts are better.

Sorry if this has been posted already but technically the british definition of biscuit is the correct one, 100% no argument.

Bis-Cuit: 'Twice cooked' simple french. Biscuits by definition are dry and crunchy, the first biscuits; 'Ship biscuits' started out hard, dry and crunchy and slowly over time became more wet as they absorbed moisture. It was only when they started absorbing moistue that they began to spoil.

flour-based food Items that are not 'twice cooked' go hard and dry when they start to spoil. (Usually referred to as 'stale')

Biscuits become soft when they go stale, cakes become hard.

So an american 'breakfast biscuit' = a cake.
Whats odd is that IIRC the term biscuit is not really used in france, so although it is a contraction of two french words it is English.

It's not really French, it's Latin. Biscotti is an Italian biscuit that is literally twice baked and it's name means "twice baked" in Italian, obviously Italian and French are both descended from Latin.

But yeah American "biscuits" would really be defined as cakes over here (and thus would be a luxury good and require VAT to be paid).

True, they probably would be (even though American biscuits are truer to the origin of the term than British biscuits).

Well saying its not french but latin is like saying a car is actually a steamtrain because it has an engine.

Not all cakes pay full VAT.
In the same way that a chocolate digestive attracts VAT when a normal one does not.

Corpsesarefun wrote:It's not really French, it's Latin. Biscotti is an Italian biscuit that is literally twice baked and it's name means "twice baked" in Italian, obviously Italian and French are both descended from Latin.

But yeah American "biscuits" would really be defined as cakes over here (and thus would be a luxury good and require VAT to be paid).

Hence the debacle that was "Is a Jaffa Cake a biscuit or a Cake?" for TAX purposes a few years back.

Cookie to me, is those large (over 3" to 5" diameter) and flat (less then 1/2" thick) biscuits with actual pieces within them (Macademia, chocolate chips etc). Biscuit it self , is a wide term. You have Cheese Biscuits (like water biscuits etc) partly towards crackers and also sweet biscuits like custard creams, but then Digestive Biscuits are right between them and can be both. It's very ambiguous, like Fruit, tomatoes are a fruit but don't go in a Fruit salad, and are more at home with Salad Vegatables (Cucumbers, Lettuce etc).

Cookies are soft and chewy(?) rather than crunchy and crumbly, because they are only lightly backed.

Though I have seen a show about a US cookie cafe which specialises in hard baked cookies which I suppose are basically biscuits in the British sense.

Kilkrazy wrote:Cookies are soft and chewy(?) rather than crunchy and crumbly, because they are only lightly backed.

Though I have seen a show about a US cookie cafe which specialises in hard baked cookies which I suppose are basically biscuits in the British sense.

Where do Oreos fit in though? They're crunchy.

mwnciboo wrote:

Corpsesarefun wrote:It's not really French, it's Latin. Biscotti is an Italian biscuit that is literally twice baked and it's name means "twice baked" in Italian, obviously Italian and French are both descended from Latin.

But yeah American "biscuits" would really be defined as cakes over here (and thus would be a luxury good and require VAT to be paid).

Hence the debacle that was "Is a Jaffa Cake a biscuit or a Cake?" for TAX purposes a few years back.

In fairness, it was fairly important to mcvitties and they were right...
It is a cake...

Amaya wrote:

Kilkrazy wrote:Cookies are soft and chewy(?) rather than crunchy and crumbly, because they are only lightly backed.

Though I have seen a show about a US cookie cafe which specialises in hard baked cookies which I suppose are basically biscuits in the British sense.

Where do Oreos fit in though?

Waste bins, usually.

purplefood wrote:

mwnciboo wrote:

Corpsesarefun wrote:It's not really French, it's Latin. Biscotti is an Italian biscuit that is literally twice baked and it's name means "twice baked" in Italian, obviously Italian and French are both descended from Latin.

But yeah American "biscuits" would really be defined as cakes over here (and thus would be a luxury good and require VAT to be paid).

Hence the debacle that was "Is a Jaffa Cake a biscuit or a Cake?" for TAX purposes a few years back.

In fairness, it was fairly important to mcvitties and they were right...
It is a cake...

I thought McVitties claimed they were biscuits so they could avoid VAT?

Amaya wrote:

Kilkrazy wrote:Cookies are soft and chewy(?) rather than crunchy and crumbly, because they are only lightly backed.

Though I have seen a show about a US cookie cafe which specialises in hard baked cookies which I suppose are basically biscuits in the British sense.

Where do Oreos fit in though? They're crunchy.

Oreos are biscuits, they go soft when stale.

Oreos are awesome! D:

Corpsesarefun wrote:

purplefood wrote:

mwnciboo wrote:

Corpsesarefun wrote:It's not really French, it's Latin. Biscotti is an Italian biscuit that is literally twice baked and it's name means "twice baked" in Italian, obviously Italian and French are both descended from Latin.

But yeah American "biscuits" would really be defined as cakes over here (and thus would be a luxury good and require VAT to be paid).

Hence the debacle that was "Is a Jaffa Cake a biscuit or a Cake?" for TAX purposes a few years back.

In fairness, it was fairly important to mcvitties and they were right...
It is a cake...

I thought McVitties claimed they were biscuits so they could avoid VAT?

Nah it's cakes that aren't taxed (Might be not taxed as much) because chocolate covered biscuits are considered a luxury good.
They claimed that because jaffa cakes went hard rather than soft they were cakes.
They even baked a really big one to prove that they were essentially teeny tiny cakes...

I has a head covering device, and a monocle, and a pipe, and a moustache.

Therefore, I am cool.

Amaya wrote:Oreos are awesome! D:

Agreed.

greenskin lynn wrote:it makes me laugh that i noticed this thread while having a breakfast of biscuits and gravy

That sounds sooo good. Im making that for tomorrow.

Corpsesarefun wrote:Do I count as having a head covering device?

I hate almonds...

You can hate almonds, its ok. And yes a hoody is a head covering device. Also you duckface the gak out of Chowder, so your by default, in the cool mofo squad.

Great White wrote:My head covering device is air.

Almonds are okay, peanuts are better.

No, air doesnt count. And because of that, your peanut debate is incorrect

BlapBlapBlap wrote:I has a head covering device, and a monocle, and a pipe, and a moustache.

Therefore, I am cool.

Just wait till I bring out my 4th of July avatar. Its got all that PLUS the beard

KingCracker wrote:

BlapBlapBlap wrote:I has a head covering device, and a monocle, and a pipe, and a moustache.

Therefore, I am cool.

Just wait till I bring out my 4th of July avatar. Its got all that PLUS the beard

Oh rly?

A challenge? Erm.....still be posting here around July?

BlapBlapBlap wrote:

generalgrog wrote:Wow of all the things I never expected to learn about on dakka, I'm sure learning the difference between a crumpet and an english muffin is one of them. All I know is that they both look tasty with butter. And probably would go nicely with some butter cheese grits and bacon.

Crumpets with Cheese and Bacon?!

You make me sick.

Everything is better with Cheese and Bacon, Even a Snickers Bar... (Not a lie, Snickers wrapped in bacon and cheese is out of this world good.)

So baby flesh is better with mouldy cheese and raw bacon?

Who the hell eats baby flesh with RAW bacon? Christ man, have some dignity. Cook it first